The Syndicate

I'm here ready to crush this one just like upick.

Though I can't revenge kill LC here so I'll just be super annoying, but not annoying enough to be mod killed.

Also if anyone runs Into me on the map please direct me accordingly, since based off my real life army map skills I'll probably be horribly lost and to busy complaining to unlose myself

If I recall correctly from the last game we had Civs that could become mafia and 3p that could go either way.

sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Dec 07, 2018 5:07 pm
sig wrote: ↑Fri Dec 07, 2018 1:33 pm Also if anyone runs Into me on the map please direct me accordingly, since based off my real life army map skills I'll probably be horribly lost and to busy complaining to unlose myself
What are you? A lieutenant?

My land nav skills are amazing, tsk tsk

A cadet, so even worse.

I'm also voting for The Honourable Tribunal. Seems civvie

My laptop has had an unfortunate incident so I'm phone posting atm.

I've not seen anything that interesting from the skimming I've done, but Bren is playing so imma vote there since he's probably mafia.

Both Mac and Epi have been less quirky so far, I don't like this. Usually they're either bickering or doing some weird question things.

I agree with whoever said SVS jumped on Luna.

As in shes being bloodthirsty so a better look for Luna then svs. Buuuuut, I can't read SVS.

And yeah that's a good description of how I'm feeling about mac. I'd rather not lynch him today though.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Dec 09, 2018 3:19 pm
sig wrote: ↑Sun Dec 09, 2018 2:18 pm As in shes being bloodthirsty so a better look for Luna then svs. Buuuuut, I can't read SVS.

And yeah that's a good description of how I'm feeling about mac. I'd rather not lynch him today though.
My beef with sig's "bloodthirsty" descriptor for SVS is that SVS wasn't really in a position to be bloodthirsty. I used the same word to describe Luna for her part in this exchange. Luna was latching onto an established bandwagon (Colin), so her behavior struck me as bloodthirsty because it could be opportunistic, supplying momentum to a vulnerable player.

SVS, on the other hand, went after a player (Luna) who had no pre-existing suspicion against her. She's creating an entirely new dialogue about Luna, whereas Luna was tacking onto something that was already there. I do not see that as bloodthirsty behavior; there was no blood to be thirsty toward. I am confused by sig's application of that word and concerned that he was misrepresenting things from a dishonest perspective.

Oops yeah I switched those around, I thought you said that about SVS, though I’d still say svs seemed to have been a bit agreessive.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Dec 09, 2018 3:20 pm [VOTE: sig] aubergine

just to see how it feels

I’m not a fan of DHs iso, it’s to early in the game to do proper ones imo and is a good way for mafia to be involved but say very little.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Dec 09, 2018 3:23 pm
sig wrote: ↑Sun Dec 09, 2018 3:21 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Dec 09, 2018 3:19 pm
sig wrote: ↑Sun Dec 09, 2018 2:18 pm As in shes being bloodthirsty so a better look for Luna then svs. Buuuuut, I can't read SVS.

And yeah that's a good description of how I'm feeling about mac. I'd rather not lynch him today though.
My beef with sig's "bloodthirsty" descriptor for SVS is that SVS wasn't really in a position to be bloodthirsty. I used the same word to describe Luna for her part in this exchange. Luna was latching onto an established bandwagon (Colin), so her behavior struck me as bloodthirsty because it could be opportunistic, supplying momentum to a vulnerable player.

SVS, on the other hand, went after a player (Luna) who had no pre-existing suspicion against her. She's creating an entirely new dialogue about Luna, whereas Luna was tacking onto something that was already there. I do not see that as bloodthirsty behavior; there was no blood to be thirsty toward. I am confused by sig's application of that word and concerned that he was misrepresenting things from a dishonest perspective.
Oops yeah I switched those around, I thought you said that about SVS, though I’d still say svs seemed to have been a bit agreessive.
This deepens my concern.

It gives the impression that you were simply seeking to agree with a suspicion somebody had put forward, any suspicion, without checking it out for yourself.

I already said I was skimming and not going to be super focused the first few days so you going after me for a simple mistake is whatever.

And I actually liked ddl looking over the roles earlier in the game. It’s typical of his civ meta.

juliets wrote: ↑Sun Dec 09, 2018 3:31 pm I'm confused about the bloodthirsty comment. @sig were you saying that about S~V~S or Luna?

@DharmaHelper, I'd really like to hear about your cbob suspicion.

So I was saying that about SVS, Luna’s action seem normal or st least not bad. While SVS seemed to have been using Luna’s suspicion of Colin to place a vote.

So is suspect SVS atm.

Popping in between school stuff, but I think Sig should be left alone as he’s already said he’s going to be inactive at first and said he was skimming and not really paying much attention. I think everyone should be happy he’s even tried to contribute compared with the wall flowers who’ve posted nothing of value.

Furthermore I think Sig was right on something he said and y’all are just trying to lynch him early on.

Idk what has he said?

Okay so as I said I was skimming, I recalled someone say something about the SVS and Luna exchange and called them bloodthirsty.

Turns out it was you calling Luna bloodthirsty and I misremembered thinking it was SVS being called bloodthirsty.

I believed SVS was the one being overly aggressive and throwing a bad vote on Luna therefore she was being bloodthirsty.

All that basically happened here was that I misremembered who you called bloodthirsty and Said it was SVS instead of Luna which is my view. So basically I think SVS comes out looking worse for her vote then Luna does.

For DH who said I was waffling, that’s kinda true but it’s early in the game and I don’t have any solid reads so I’m throwing out what feels wrong from a gut perspective.

Also re my Bren read it’s mostly joking, buuuut I’ve had a pretty good streak of calling him out in an early post and him begin mafia. Something I could see this game from his off topic, but not full on weird posts.

Linki: I’ll be back around 8pm to answer maybe 9

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:31 am
wolbre04 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:30 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:30 am Can all of the people who are talking about not voting for me please put votes on the poll so I can calm down?
im gonna put mine on you for a placeholder now
[VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine
This is almost sig worthy.

So I disagree with nutellas idea that as mafia sloonie wouldn't start a cfd. Its a common mafia strategy even if there are other wagons.

With sloobie at 3 votes there's no reason for this level of freak out by him. It's very pingy.

Does anyone else see this

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:46 am I will vote for wolbre over wilgy.

Why

How mad would everyone be if I made this a three way, asking for a friend

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:49 am
sig wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:47 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:46 am I will vote for wolbre over wilgy.
Why
Because I've liked the wilgy "case" less and less. He's the option people default to when they don't want to take actual responsibility for their votes. wolbre has done things in the last 10 minutes that can actually be criticized. And I need to not get lynched myself.

Kinda like me then.......who you tried to lynch.

[mention]wolbre[/mention]

Why you voting for yourself.

[VOTE: sloonie] aubergine

Let's tie this up

Wow ignore that u dislike the last second wiggly vote

Lunalee wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:56 am Voting Dr. Wilgy. Incase he's bad. Cause I don't thin Wolbre is.

Hate this

Back to bren

We need another vote on bren a combo of his switch to wily and lunad vote is something I dislike

colonialbob wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:58 am
sig wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:57 am
Lunalee wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:56 am Voting Dr. Wilgy. Incase he's bad. Cause I don't thin Wolbre is.
Hate this
>ties vote
>complains about other people's votes

She broke up the three way

colonialbob wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:58 am
sig wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:57 am
Lunalee wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:56 am Voting Dr. Wilgy. Incase he's bad. Cause I don't thin Wolbre is.
Hate this
>ties vote
>complains about other people's votes

She broke up the three way

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:01 am Thank you for not lynching me.

Your welcome

Voting for Maleficus Revellos

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 3:22 pm Then again the 30 min thing requires some really active player to pull it off.

Watch it be someone super inactive and just be a wasted role.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:22 am Do we know for certain that Turnip Head was mafia and not independent? In no way do I discourage the search for potential teammate pairings, but I also want us to be aware that it’s not confirmed that he was scum. If someone else flips “Corrupted Remnant” then we’ll know. Until then, it’s not certain.

Ehhh I don’t like this, not at all.

I think it’s pretty clear TH was mafia based off of the flips. If not mafia mafia he’d be a cult element which is just as bad.

And I don’t see more then three people per mafia team assuming we’ve got recruitment like in the last game. Meaning the team either acted very close as a unit or avoided each other

I agree that the DH/TH vote switch was off, I also disliked DH early game iso for reasons that I already said. Furthermore I disagree that kills should be ignored, true theres the added factor but we shouldn't just ignore them especially with so many secret roles out there.

So I'd be down to lynch dh

[mention]juliets[/mention]

You'd tell me if you were mafia right? After our upick bonding.

Also slightly ot, but I hate this player salad nonsense.i don't see a problem with giving lots of reads at once if it makes sense or is asked.

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:03 pm
sig wrote: ↑Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:59 pm @juliets

You'd tell me if you were mafia right? After our upick bonding.
lol, I think you'd be able to tell after all that time we spent together, which I can't help but point out was a baddie tactic to harm us that ended up winning us the game! (pokes at LC). I know I feel like I'm better informed about how you play.

Sweet. I'm about 80% sure juliet is a civ. The other twenty comes from a tin foil theory that the reason she dididdididndididdididnt say yes was out of fear of the lie detector. But, with the small time window i don't know if baddies would bother altering their statements and risk someone noticing that.

Sweet. I'm about 80% sure juliet is a civ. The other twenty comes from a tin foil theory that the reason she didn't say yes was out of fear of the lie detector. But, with the small time window i don't know if baddies would bother altering their statements and risk someone noticing that.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:05 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:01 pm
sig wrote: ↑Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:57 pm I agree that the DH/TH vote switch was off, I also disliked DH early game iso for reasons that I already said. Furthermore I disagree that kills should be ignored, true theres the added factor but we shouldn't just ignore them especially with so many secret roles out there.

So I'd be down to lynch dh
Neat.
And by neat I mean "incredibly surface level hanger-on" What felt off about it?

And what does the underlined have to do with the price of tea in China?

It all ties into Inflation and sunk cost.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:11 pm
sig wrote: ↑Sun Dec 09, 2018 3:22 pm I’m not a fan of DHs iso, it’s to early in the game to do proper ones imo and is a good way for mafia to be involved but say very little.
@juliets This is what he meant. In reference to me trying to ISO-List again.

Big ol from me on this one.

RE: The underlined: I feel like I've said a shit ton, overall, and been pretty involved. So, moot point?

That was from early in phase 1, but it did stick with me. Granted you’ve had more content since then, but as I said it seems like a good way for mafia to be involved early game, but not really say much.

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:13 pm
sig wrote: ↑Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:00 pm Also slightly ot, but I hate this player salad nonsense.i don't see a problem with giving lots of reads at once if it makes sense or is asked.
People misuse the term. It’s when the reads are unsubstantiated and based on nothing apparent in context, like if I said, “My scumreads are sprit, Epignosis, Sloonei and maybe speedchuck” and offered little-to-no-reasoning (because I can’t actually supply any).

Okay got it, that makes more sense.

For the trickster normally the role doesn't work in a way that would let someone flip as the trickster if they were night killed. We could see a twist with the role here, but I doubt it. We need to also remember there are items in play that could've been used to kill TH as well annnnnd lots of secrets.

Popping in between studying for a final tomorrow.

I dont want to lynch wilgy, quin, or SVS I think they're all not mafia atm.

If I had to pick between quin and wilgy I'd probably go with quin. Just because I see no reasoning for rhe wilgy lynch beyond the usual reasons given which normally equal a mislynch

Lunas jump on sab nakes perfect sense if you have info you go with it on most sites. I'm actually shocked how that seemed to have been blown over.

Quin wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 10:49 pm
sig wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 10:48 pm Popping in between studying for a final tomorrow.

I dont want to lynch wilgy, quin, or SVS I think they're all not mafia atm.

If I had to pick between quin and wilgy I'd probably go with quin. Just because I see no reasoning for rhe wilgy lynch beyond the usual reasons given which normally equal a mislynch
maybe suggest a name that isn't one of the ones you think are good next time

I'd consider sab based off the info to be a top choice, the case on gman seems okay but I won't pretend to remember the details just that it didn't seem bad when i read it in the moment.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 10:49 pm
sig wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 10:48 pm Popping in between studying for a final tomorrow.

I dont want to lynch wilgy, quin, or SVS I think they're all not mafia atm.

If I had to pick between quin and wilgy I'd probably go with quin. Just because I see no reasoning for rhe wilgy lynch beyond the usual reasons given which normally equal a mislynch
What I appreciate most about this post is all the insightful observations about G-man.

Your welcome i try my best.

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