The Syndicate

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Lynch epi for posting before ne

Honestly I should get mafia I've won almost every game I've played as a mafia member or been part of the winning team!

And if not imma cry or be really salty

Also third times the charm, creature has to be civ in this game and sloonie has to be mafia

Creature wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 11:36 pm
sig wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 10:25 pm Also third times the charm, creature has to be civ in this game and sloonie has to be mafia
There are 15 civs this game though?

tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Jan 20, 2020 12:23 am It was only a matter of time before battle royale formats conquered the mafia forums as well

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Jan 20, 2020 2:56 am
Dom wrote: ↑Mon Jan 20, 2020 2:51 am so monokuma is the bad guy?
Monokumka inflicts despair on one role each night, which looks basically like "recruit them to the Mafia", I think.

Yea I'd say Monokumka hereby dubbed bearo is a chaotic third party which does probably make the mafia team. But has another goal.

I do find it curious for people saying we should lynch Bearo since my understanding is he's unlyncable. I also agree with the people who are against lynching and am eyeing jack for saying we should lynch people.

This game could get wifomy real quick

I thought the tying idea made sense.

Okosan wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2020 3:48 pm
sig wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2020 3:45 pm I thought the tying idea made sense.
Cooooooo! (If we tie there are two really bad negative things that come from it. First off we severely limit the options of who can be the tie breaker, which can lead to Monokuma killing a bunch of people easier. Second if we push people we sus instead we can get info on people. For instance, if anyone seems to have fake reasoning to suspect others, anyone is too eager to lynch someone, and whatever else we find useful. Leaving it up to RNG blocks our access to info)

meh, guess I could see that.

can we assume we potentially have one mafia member? Like one was either assigned or picked D0/will be picked D1 so they can use a kill N1.

IF so i'm on board to lynch for sure.

So I don't normally say lets lynch inactives, but I think it may be worth discussing.

sig wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2020 5:30 pm So I don't normally say lets lynch inactives, but I think it may be worth discussing.

Mainly since they're dead weight, mafia won't ever recruit someone who's not around especially in this set up and it leaves the least amount of blood on our hands.

Okosan wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2020 5:32 pm
sig wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2020 5:30 pm
sig wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2020 5:30 pm So I don't normally say lets lynch inactives, but I think it may be worth discussing.
Mainly since they're dead weight, mafia won't ever recruit someone who's not around especially in this set up and it leaves the least amount of blood on our hands.
COO! COOOOO! (Again Monokuma recruits roles not people)

Still dead weight in the sense that they probably won't be targeted for kills and will be a wasted vote. But I wasn't aware Bearo recruited roles tbh

Dom wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2020 7:32 pm
sig wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2020 3:45 pm I thought the tying idea made sense.
[VOTE: sig] aubergine

Dom voting for sig? Shocker.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:35 pm Okay I just realized that my PMs to the bear to try to get him to recruit me don’t matter if he recuruites based on role. So. No help there.

Dom is on the bear short list. I’ll vote for him.

Calling it your the bear.

Ofc by bear I mean Bearo not bear as in a hairy gay guy

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:36 pm
sig wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:36 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:35 pm Okay I just realized that my PMs to the bear to try to get him to recruit me don’t matter if he recuruites based on role. So. No help there.

Dom is on the bear short list. I’ll vote for him.
Calling it your the bear.
I wish. Muah hah hah

Suuuure

I'm actually fairly happy with my role my last 2 gos as an indy didnt go very well much larger chance of staying alive with current one.

[VOTE: tsp] aubergine

I could see him being Bearo.

I could also easily vote for Dom since he laid out a very easy vote on me which I dislike for 2 reaosns.
1. It's on me
2. It's a way to stay under the rrrader since he always votes for me often with little reasoning.

I just realized that day phases are 24 hours?

That's bad

tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Jan 22, 2020 9:09 am This setup is a clusterfuck honestly. What the hell does "Monokuma can vote but the player with his role can't" mean ??????????

Okay so say I'm Bearo, I get to vote ie my role has the ability to cast one but the player cant ie it doesnt count.

That's my understanding basically the role gets a vote but since player doesn't it equals zero.

Also I agree with that Bearo is either Jack. Tsp or someone laying looooow.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jan 22, 2020 8:38 am
sig wrote: ↑Wed Jan 22, 2020 8:36 am I just realized that day phases are 24 hours?

That's bad
Yeah kinda meh

I once played a 72/48 and it was the chilliest game I've ever been in

tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Jan 22, 2020 9:45 am
sig wrote: ↑Wed Jan 22, 2020 9:41 am
tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Jan 22, 2020 9:09 am This setup is a clusterfuck honestly. What the hell does "Monokuma can vote but the player with his role can't" mean ??????????
Okay so say I'm Bearo, I get to vote ie my role has the ability to cast one but the player cant ie it doesnt count.

That's my understanding basically the role gets a vote but since player doesn't it equals zero.
So if i'm the bear and i vote in the poll...

i vote for y

wagons are 2-2, 2 for x, 2 for y

the total vote count will be 2 (x) - 1 (y) ?

Yup

I think there are so many unknowns that this tie doesn't really boil it down we have multiple roles that can mess with voting and then a shit ton of secrets.

So I'm gonna assume whomever Bearo is, he knows Epi fairly well so I think we can discount the new people there. But, at this point we should have a mafia player to hunt right?

Also quick pitch what if there isn't any mafia players at all and the only non town person is Bearo

Also ALso Jack saying he talked to Bearo and dropping that info makes me think again he's Bearo.

Or wants to be recruited/was since he said he wanted to be so we should take him out maybe?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 23, 2020 12:43 pm
sig wrote: ↑Thu Jan 23, 2020 12:37 pm Also quick pitch what if there isn't any mafia players at all and the only non town person is Bearo
Lol read the setup, Sig.

sig wrote: ↑Thu Jan 23, 2020 12:38 pm
I mean can it not lie?

And if we think there are two mafia arms leta ignore Bearo and try to find them.

Also mafia could've easily votes for ddl assuming they even knew he was Bearo.

It's a non issue at this point I'd say

I'd be down for a Jack vote.

I'm liking Okosan, TH, ted, and Lc.

I'm meh on Rej, sloonie and TSP. However, I don't think both tsp and sloonie are mafia.

Also keep in mind mafia doesnt all know who other mafia is.

sig wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2020 1:57 pm Also keep in mind mafia doesnt all know who other mafia is.

Which is why j think we don't have mafia per say, but more so LMS type thing.

Creature is here. But not posting much which is his usually thing. He's kinda impossible for me to read

I disagree with whoever said Fayt is bad based off excuse. You can think you have tine for multiple games and then just don't.

I suspect rej only since his playstyle gut reminds me of how he was last game I played where he was mafia.

And trustworthy is null.

[VOTE: jack] aubergine

He's shifty and shifty people should get shived.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2020 4:02 pm [VOTE: Fayt ] aubergine

Is it a common excuse for wolf Fayt to lurk/come up with excuses?

Looking at the two people who were night killed is actually pretty interesting.

Neither were very engaged/posting alot and neither had thrown out alot of reads or suspicion.

Both were safe kills that wouldn't reflect back on anyone or really cause issues. So the question is who'd play it safe/be likely to target inactive players?

Also I can't be NK'd so mafia don't try that on me next. K? thx.

sig wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2020 4:45 pm Also I can't be NK'd so mafia don't try that on me next. K? thx.

Or can I.

Okosan wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2020 4:54 pm
sig wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2020 4:45 pm Also I can't be NK'd so mafia don't try that on me next. K? thx.
Cooo! (Oh yeah same it's really weird how the host said Okosan couldn't be night killed ever just because he felt like it)

Yea I'm assuming he was messing around on that?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2020 5:11 pm Are we all operating under the assumption that 2 nights = 2 recruitments = 2 mafia + mean bear?

Assuming mafia is mafia yea. I'd also say if we assume mafia is mafia then Bearo can recruit a certain amount of people and they probably need to be dead before we can lynch Bearo.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2020 6:03 pm
sig wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2020 5:51 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2020 5:11 pm Are we all operating under the assumption that 2 nights = 2 recruitments = 2 mafia + mean bear?
Assuming mafia is mafia yea. I'd also say if we assume mafia is mafia then Bearo can recruit a certain amount of people and they probably need to be dead before we can lynch Bearo.
Yeah I’ve been wondering if there’s a cap on recruitment.

But it’s also theoretically possible that one new recruit could kill an older recruit at some point.

None of this helps is catch scum today.

Agreed theory discussion is all well and good, but end of the day it isn't the most important thing to discuss right now.

Sooooooo thoughts?

Creature wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2020 10:27 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2020 7:51 pm Never mind, creature looks like a disheartened civilian. Let’s vote for sig instead. Again, no reason.
Thanks for seeing that

No

When does this 9hase actually end

rip jack you werent mafia. Buuuuut you totally deserve it for getting me lynched ij the wire.

I'm not a fan of my name being brought up over and over again by people. Not a fan.

And ted seems super civvies but like he could easily be leading us down the path of despair.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2020 12:33 pm
sig wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2020 12:31 pm I'm not a fan of my name being brought up over and over again by people. Not a fan.

And ted seems super civvies but like he could easily be leading us down the path of despair.
I would never afford to do that to you siggie

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2020 12:33 pm
sig wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2020 12:31 pm I'm not a fan of my name being brought up over and over again by people. Not a fan.

And ted seems super civvies but like he could easily be leading us down the path of despair.
Is anyone who’s bringing you up a suspect?

Does “the path of despair” mean that ted is bad, or that he’s simply wrong?

I think he's either bad and tricking everyone or good and probably right

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2020 2:58 pm
sig wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2020 2:50 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2020 12:33 pm
sig wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2020 12:31 pm I'm not a fan of my name being brought up over and over again by people. Not a fan.

And ted seems super civvies but like he could easily be leading us down the path of despair.
Is anyone who’s bringing you up a suspect?

Does “the path of despair” mean that ted is bad, or that he’s simply wrong?
I think he's either bad and tricking everyone or good and probably right
Okay. Those are the two options implied in the question. Which is it? And if he's right doesn't that make you bad?

I wanna say good, but if he flips bad I wanna be able to claim credit for it.

So lets say like 65/35 good to bad ration.

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