The Syndicate

My favorite mythical creature is Satan. Satan, say hi.

*lion roars*

Satan says hi. The reasons Satan is my favorite are as follows:
-Satan is the archetype of Prometheus and all other rebellious gods that brought knowledge, fire, and advancement to man.
-Satan is a fallen angel, which makes him probably both handsome and soooo emo.
-Satan is really, really proficient at making things that are so bad seem so good.
-Satan is both relatable and vilified.
-Any guy who helps humanity to leave a nudist garden full of fruit is a good guy. I don't even like fruit.
-I can call him Stan.

Why can Satan beat all your mermaids and griffins and such? Well, if a myth's power comes from the belief of humans, then Satan's got them all beat by miles. A decent number of people believe he actually exists.
In an actual strength contest, Satan has whatever power he is allowed to have, I think. He is bound in chains, but is given power sometimes when he requests it. So if the Abrahamic God wanted to use his old adversary to destroy a skinwalker, I think he could do it. But this is speculation.

That about sums it up for my best buddy, Stan.

*lion roars*

Stan, that was rude.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jul 16, 2017 11:10 pm Read the rules people. That's how Pokemon got lost.

Votes are not changeable!

How do we even?

I could go for some calamari right now. I really, really could.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 17, 2017 11:47 am

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Jul 17, 2017 11:41 am I could go for some calamari right now. I really, really could.

You throwin shade at me Chuck?

Are you a squid? And more important, are you delicious when deep fried?

sprityo wrote: ↑Mon Jul 17, 2017 2:40 pm My favorite mythological creature is Cans. Or at least when Speedchuck plays as Cans and doesn't use his one ability after being lynched day one and surviving

#never forget dersehunt

#1: SHUT UP THAT GAME SUCKED FOR ME AND WAS CONFUSING
#2: Seriously I had no targets I was comfortable with punching, and I wasn't as good at stats then as I am now.
#3: #never forget credithunt

sprityo wrote: ↑Mon Jul 17, 2017 4:23 pm #never forget Credithunt when I gut killed 2/3 mafia

But not me. And all for naught.

Made wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 1:13 am Have you played with all the users in this game in the past previously that are here now?

Made, what is the purpose/meaning/point/idea/mission of this question?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 12:56 pm PS: How did Sprityo make it into this game? I tried (not really) to cut him out of it by recruiting Tony so the mafia wouldn't kill me on N1 again. Yet here he is. Did someone drop or is Doc bad at counting?

If you die night one, we can just lynch Sprit on D2.

FEB == == bad guy, I assume

sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 2:06 pm Making predictions based off no substantial information is fun ain't it?

So is undermining all of your own statements so that you look like you're making content, when you're really not.

Golden wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 3:31 pm I've so far had reverse pings from Made, LoRab and Tony. If no one ever looks suspicious I'll vote amongst the people who haven't given me reasons to get town pings from them. I'd give this a fancy name but I don't want to make anyone upset

Hello yes this is town.

And now for my most detailed D1 gutreads ever:

Boomslang -
Dom -
DFaraday -
Dr Wilgy -
Elohcin -
Epignosis -
Golden -
insertnamehere -
Jackofhearts2005 -
Long Con -
Lorab -
Made -
Neverwhere -
nutella -
Ricochet -
speedchuck -
sprityo -
timmer -
TonyStarkPrime -

But I always read Epi as .

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 4:17 pm Is Made Canadian?

Gtth, who do you wanna lynch, Speed. I trust you an inch atm, which is certainly an amount of distance.

Canadian? IDK, I only remember one post from Made and the question they asked reminded me of the blah blah blah smiley face. It was worded weird, and I want a reply.


It's D1, so I'm not comfortable with lynching anybody, but if I had to vote right now, I might would send it at Wilgy, Rico, INH, or Sprit, for mostly inconsequential reasons. I'm not feeling great about Epi either, but I've scumread him in every game we've been in together.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 4:33 pm <This is what Canadians look like in South Park. Ike is an adopted brother from Canada and the name of the smiley.

I've never watched South Park, sooooo...

#uncultured

Still gonna use that face for Made

LoRab wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 4:41 pm I don't even know what the smiley you used for me means, lol.

It means you have a decent amount of content and none of it makes me think you're town. Which makes me uneasy.

But for D1, my reads are all as ill-defined as that, so the smilies sum them up pretty good.

Hey, Boomslang is around! Get in here, Boomslang!

Neverwhere wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 5:02 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 5:01 pm

Neverwhere wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 4:55 pm Damn it, I gots to throw down a vote before bed. I'll start with the note taking tomorrow. Someone say something I dislike and give me a reason to vote pls. Pretty pls?

I heard Sprityo say he hates puppies once.

that may be excusable. Puppies pee on everything.

Nobody can say something you dislike if you keep thinking the best of them like this. GET MAD! PEOPLE ARE THE WORST! ALL STUPIDITY CAN BE EXPLAINED BY SARCASM AND MALICE!

I'm not good at it either. I'm really bad at D1 because I feel like everyone should get a chance to play the game.

On the upside, even a random lynch in this game has over 1/3 chance of hitting non-town. If the 3P is non-town.

Golden wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 5:20 pm Speedhuck - why you say my quote is town and then give a blank face as my smiley. Surely the comment about me being town was either you leaning town or you being sarc and leaning away from town, it's odd you would say that and end up blank on me?

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 4:14 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 3:31 pm I've so far had reverse pings from Made, LoRab and Tony. If no one ever looks suspicious I'll vote amongst the people who haven't given me reasons to get town pings from them. I'd give this a fancy name but I don't want to make anyone upset

Hello yes this is town.

It was a joke. I was giving you a town ping. "Hello? Yes, this is dog town."

I hate explaining jokes. Ugh.
I don't really feel bad about you, though. Not even in a eeeehhh no reason to think Golden is town way. Just a "Hey, Golden exists. Maybe scum? Possible, but more likely nah."

Also:

Golden wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 5:20 pm Speedhuck - why you say my quote is town and then give a blank face as my smiley.

Golden wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 5:20 pm Speedhuck -

Golden wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 5:20 pm Speedhuck -

Elohcin wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 5:34 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 4:47 pm It means you have a decent amount of content and none of it makes me think you're town. Which makes me uneasy.
But for D1, my reads are all as ill-defined as that, so the smilies sum them up pretty good.

I may be being picky in this but I have to vote and it has to go on someone. I don't like the whole smiley chart that chuck laid out for us. Above you see his explanation to Lorab about her specific smiley. But why not just say that in the post. It's day 1. Why not get real. Day 0 is behind us and we are supposed to get a little more serious now. If he were civ, I think he would have given a small description as well so we knew exactly how he felt. Instead he remained vague with smiles. Sorry chuck, but at this moment, I think there is a better possibility of you being bad this game than any other player. I must vote. And you're it.

Do you see the inconsistency here? I mean, I obviously disagree with your vote, and your reasoning, but even in your very post, you say numerous times:
"I have to be picky and vote even though there's not much to go on. I gotta pick somebody."
And then you say "Why not get serious?"

That's why I'm not getting all that serious. For the same reason that you keep excusing yourself.

And I'm not sure what the scum motive would be to post a smiley list. Vague-ness is something I'm more prone to do as town anyway.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 5:36 pm Seems I cannot vote. Anyone else having this problem?

I think if you click "View results" then that counts as your vote, and it locks you out of voting. I'm in the same position.

I'm back, boyees

For about thirty minutes, I am yours

Have at me

Bacon and eggs for dinner.

C'mon it's a 24 hr day game. Give the D1 no-shows a little slack right?

Elohcin wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 8:49 pm Oh, and whoever said I was Republican was mistaken. Libertarian.

Eh, close enough.

*braces self*

Eh, this is crap. People are spending more time defending the lynch targets than the accusers spent justifying them, and yet those defenders aren't suggesting other targets. Crap. Crap I say. Time-wasting crap.

Votes aren't changeable. If you want to change the mind of a voter, do it tomorrow. Now is the time to find a target and argue FOR it, not against it.

As for the targets that already exist, I don't want to vote Dom. Or Golden. I don't think they're scum. Sprit I'm ambivalent on, though I like the guy and don't want to mislynch him early. OMGUS isn't an option. I think of Eloh as town, barring some crazy metaread.

Gimme a minute

Vote Made

Unhelpful questions, dodging my questions, dodgy play in general. Not a lot of content, IMO. Worth a vote more than the current lynch targets, at any rate. Don't like it? Suggest your own targets and get something done. Peace.

linki: hahaha don't vote Jack pls

Boomslang wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 9:56 pm Jack even admits that his argument defending the lololol was "the dumbest argument I have ever made in a mafia game."

I mean, it is.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 10:53 pm I don't have any really prime suspects, but I have some pretty strong town reads on a few people.

Who?

Made voters, who was your second choice?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 11:12 pm "Especially before the next day begins."

I'll probably expect them tomorrow unless I get a compelling reason, then.

Still not used to the talking at night.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 11:27 pm We want the mafias to shoot each other. So don't go painting targets. In single mafia games, I'm of the opposite opinion.

Huh. I've never heard this before.

But then, the only other mafia game I've played with two teams was a closed setup. We didn't know about the two teams till late.

Boomslang wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 8:35 am Made voters, who was your second choice?

I want to further explore both Jack and Neverwhere tomorrow. And I want to hear what you, Speedchuck, have to say about Jack particularly after "hahaha don't vote Jack pls."
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I usually read Jack as scum (in the what, 1 or 2 games we've played). It isn't happening this game. I have no reason to believe Jack is scum, no pings or anything. If Jack is town, which I believe to be the case, he'll be an experienced asset.

If you come up with some actual reasons to lynch him we can look into that on D2 or 3.


linki: w/w means wolf/wolf. Means that the two are both on the same scumteam.
Terrible term, btw, since few of our games are werewolf games. I usually use the term "knowingly aligned" or just "aligned" since town people don't have strong connections to each other. We could even say "scummates". Anything but w/w.

Went back and read over some stuff.

Feel worse about Sprit, Golden.

Feel better about Rico.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 10:13 am If 3 people would be so kind. Please let me know your thoughts regarding my exchanges with Golden.

Boring meta crap. I doubt you two are aligned, if that's any help. I'm more interested in what your read on Golden is. And I mean read, not quality-of-play analysis.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 11:02 am

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 10:31 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 10:13 am If 3 people would be so kind. Please let me know your thoughts regarding my exchanges with Golden.

Boring meta crap. I doubt you two are aligned, if that's any help. I'm more interested in what your read on Golden is. And I mean read, not quality-of-play analysis.

Bad, I thought I had made that clear. Unless you meant something else. What are you referring to in regards to quality-of-play? I don't believe that I have spoken in regards to Golden's quality of play, rather is style of play and where his thoughts are.

You refer to meta as boring crap, why? Also along this thought, is quality-of-play not a factor in forming a read?

Stuff like "You're being defensive because I usually suspect you"
"Defensive against what?"
"What reason do you have for posting this?"
"You are satisfied for the wrong reasons"

None of this is about alignment, so far as I can tell. Just bickering. Some of it about meta. And meta is boring because A. I'm new here and don't know anyone's meta good enough to speak on it, and B. Talking about past games doesn't speak to alignment.

I'm interested in what you think about Golden because you are familiar with them. But talking about past experience and about the way Golden is playing doesn't say anything about your alignment, and it's full of arguments I wouldn't be able to follow.

And no, quality-of-play is not a factor in forming a read, unless it's a tell for that person.

linki: pls rico, steal my smiley rainbow and make some content. I want to know what you think of those people too

To be short:

Meta is alignment indicative.
Talking about meta is not.
I cannot read meta for players I don't know well.
Quality of play is not alignment indicative without meta.

Wilgy, why do you think Rico is bad?
Golden, what is your current read on Wilgy and Rico?

Ricochet wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 11:27 am

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 11:17 am
linki: pls rico, steal my smiley rainbow and make some content. I want to know what you think of those people too

A READING RAINBOW

speedchuck
Made Lynched Day 1 - Steve Carlsberg
Elohcin
Ricochet
Jackofhearts2005
Neverwhere
Dr Wilgy
Epignosis
DFaraday
TonyStarkPrime
insertnamehere
Boomslang
Lorab
Dom
nutella
Long Con
Golden
sprityo

timmer

A lot of people in here that I just threw into place based on gut. Super subject to change.

Sprit what do you think of Golden, Wilgy, Rico, Neverwhere, and Nutella?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 2:32 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 2:13 pm I'll halfbow, if that's the new thing

Green: Redacted
YellowGreen: Redacted
GreenYellow: Redacted
Yellow: Redacted.
YellowOrange: Epi, spirityo, neverwhere
OrangeYellow: Golden, INH, JOH, LongCon
Orange: Dom
OrangeRed: DF
RedOrange/ Red: None

Why Dom?
Why LC?

Why DF? And Jack, why not DF? (If you catch my meaning.)

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 3:26 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 11:17 amNone of this is about alignment, so far as I can tell.

That's exactly right, and it's because I'm neither reading Wilgy as bad nor trying particularly hard to defend against his case. I'm just having fun.

This post (as well as the few others) makes me feel a bit better about you, unless someone else calls you out and contradicts you on your meta somehow.

Hey, is there anyone here who can summarize Eloh's meta?

What's your confidence level on that read, rico?

I'm inclined to believe Golden for now. Plus his reads are not all that unlike mine.

I like this game. Is good.

DFaraday wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 4:56 pm My universally panned vote for Wilgy didn't go anywhere after Made came back civ, so I'm no longer pinged by him.

Could you re-explain the connection here real quick

Dom wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 5:07 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 12:49 pm How about a halfbow?

Good guys
People who are too quiet
Lorab
Golden
Nutella
Dom
DF
Boomerjack
Sprityo

LoRab, Golden, and Nutella all stood out to me in my read through. Two as civvies and one as a baddie.
So like... how?

No, his list is:
-Good guys: <hidden>
-People too quiet: <hidden>
THEN
-Lorab
-Golden
-Nutella
-Dom
-DF
-Boomerjack
-Sprityo

I think. Anyway, why do you read Nutella as town?

Elohcin wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 5:21 pm Who was it that said, "please don't vote jack" out of nowhere yesterday at end of day 1? I wanted to inquire about that.

Me, that was me. I did that.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 8:58 pm Call me crazy, but I think I want to vote for Jack.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 8:58 pm linki: hahaha don't vote Jack pls

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 10:16 am I usually read Jack as scum (in the what, 1 or 2 games we've played). It isn't happening this game. I have no reason to believe Jack is scum, no pings or anything. If Jack is town, which I believe to be the case, he'll be an experienced asset.

If you come up with some actual reasons to lynch him we can look into that on D2 or 3.

For your convenience.

linki: I've not been keen on nutella, obviously, so I can agree with you there. Dom I could go either way on, don't know him well enough to read. Now that he's shown up, I'm more inclined to lynch him. Just hate lynching no-shows.
Can you show me where Jack is co-aligned with these reads? Because I don't see the Jack read... As you can see above, though, I can't read Jack.
Didn't want him dead d1 tho so

So yeah, your reads sort-of align with mine, but not quite as well.

linki#2: gonna have to be more clear than that, rico.

Ricochet wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 5:40 pm

Oh. Rico, are you saying that INH and Nutella are w/w, and that Golden is opposite team wolf?

Because that's honestly what I got from that, and it's pretty disappointing

linkis oh god:
@golden Cool. Hard for me to evaluate a metaread, but I don't see Jack as being strongly tied to anyone.
@Eloh because I didn't want someone to vote Jack for crazy non-stated reasons on d1

Ricochet wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 5:49 pm

Ricochet wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 2:19 am Golden
nutella
sprityo

Nah.

Ricochet wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 5:52 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 5:50 pm

Ricochet wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 5:49 pm

Ricochet wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 2:19 am Golden
nutella
sprityo

Nah.

It's okay. I still think you're town.

INH w/w INH calling it