The Syndicate

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:00 pm
@speedchuck

You less busy and ready to sub in?

Are you kidding? This game is on day one and has 59 freaking pages!

Of COURSE I'm ready to sub in!

(Though honestly I have no idea how this game works haha, still ready to go)

colonialbob wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 1:40 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 1:36 pm Effective immediately, Speedchuck replaces Dunya.

dunya
speedchuck

Aw. Thanks for your contributions so far dunya
speedchuck, any new thoughts for us?

Holy crap this game is complex. I know nothing about what's going on, other than that the shoes I've been selected to fill are like size two-hundred.
I know this isn't helpful, but I have a few questions just to get my bearings. Please be concise.

1. How does this recruitment thing on the main page work?

2. If Sig and Lapluie are public members of badguyia, shouldn't we lynch them?

3. What's the difference between Rico's and Epi's civ things? Is Rico actually playing?

4. . . . anything else I should know as someone who hasn't followed the thread for more than five minutes?

5. Why am I replacing Dunya?

colonialbob wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 3:22 pm Also do you really think jack would mod-confirm 2/5 mafia?

No, that's why I'm asking instead of campaigning.

I'm just going to ignore that opening list of alignments for now and hunt, I think.

(Oh wow, look at all of those ROLES)

linki: a rundown on both cases would be nice.

Oh, one more thing.

Don't expect me to post as much as Dunya. Or as much as speedchuck even. I'm happy to replace in, but I don't want to burn myself out right before GoC, and it's going to take me a while to get situated after missing 3600 posts.

Wait, this is a day phase! Why aren't we lynching anyone?!

Getting Civ on Civ vibes.

Ugh I'm going to need a player list with notes for this game. So many new players.

[mention]colonialbob[/mention] What is the case on you?

And deadline is tonight, huh? I'm going for a

[VOTE: Iron_Dwarf] aubergine

to put myself on the board. Unsure how busy I'll be this evening.

I don't think I've actually SEEN a case on Iron dwarf yet, but considering that I got around to replacing into this game when it had 10 hours left in the game and I was heading to the gym, I don't think I'm going to have time to develop a full readlist.

I don't know how to read Mac. He always comes off super aggressive. His play in Buffy totally ruined me.

DDL, however, I feel like I can read if he's bad. And he seems pretty genuine here to me.

Ey, JJJ is in this game! Is he silenced today?

Come and play, JJJ

sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 7:58 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 5:24 pm

Getting Civ on Civ vibes.

Ugh I'm going to need a player list with notes for this game. So many new players.

Dunya was town, but Speedchuck is always mafia

(Hi speed it’s nice to see you again )

Hey Sprit! Been a while on here since we've played together.

Quin wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 9:28 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 5:50 pm And deadline is tonight, huh? I'm going for a

[VOTE: Iron_Dwarf] aubergine

to put myself on the board. Unsure how busy I'll be this evening.

I don't think I've actually SEEN a case on Iron dwarf yet, but considering that I got around to replacing into this game when it had 10 hours left in the game and I was heading to the gym, I don't think I'm going to have time to develop a full readlist.

You put yourself on the board by voting on a prominent wagon? Why? What don't you like about him?

"I don't think I've actually SEEN a case on Iron dwarf yet"

I don't dislike anyone at the moment. I just have reasons to townread the other wagons at the time. And there's a new one on some Dr. White? Yeah, haven't seen him yet either. Didn't know he existed.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 9:50 pm

Quin wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 9:48 pm

rundontwalk wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 9:48 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 9:46 pm also wait rdw did you mean DDL when you said "dr" in that one post? I'm so confused I assumed it was either Dr. White or DrWilgy but your response implies DDL

I thought it was Doctor Dragon Fluff or something

It's Dragon Dick Luffy.

Porn Names Mafia [Full Game]

Do one for me.

Like, apparently one of the host posts said they were giving me time to catch up when they locked the topic or something. Wish I'd known that at the time. I might have read something.

Who should I be suspecting, [mention]Quin[/mention]?

Because I'm sitting with about 4 townreads atm.

linki: Cool, I'll look at that case. 4 hours gives me time.

Iron_Dwarf and Dr White for teammates

Sure I could [VOTE: Dr. White] aubergine though. The case on him is better than-- Well, it's the only case I've seen so far that had merit.

And yes, you can consider that my condemnation of every case made since I joined. Honestly.

linki: This isn't the Ring mafia.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 18, 2018 11:43 pm Kenway
Dragon D. Luffy
DrWilgy
nutella
sig
gwilikers6
Iron_Dwarf
Kylemii
sprityo
lapluie
colonialbob
Marmot
Quin
Epignosis
Long Con
JaggedJimmyJay
rundontwalk
Kites

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 18, 2018 11:44 pm speedchuck

That's my technique, darn it. Also what?

speedchuck
JaggedJimmyJay
sig
rundontwalk
Kenway
nutella
Dragon D. Luffy
Long Con
Kylemii
Kites
DrWilgy
Epignosis
gwilikers6
colonialbob
Marmot
Iron_Dwarf
sprityo
lapluie
MacDougall
Quin

Urgh, I keep cycling the bottom 6 of this list in random order. More confident in the top of the list.

I don't have a whole lot of time today, thus the readlist, but I can elaborate on a few of these.

Iron_Dwarf wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2018 11:25 am Those long lists are great to see where a player is standing and all, but how is this different from 'salad' posts?

They aren't very different.

'Salad' posts just throw out a bunch of unsubstantiated targets, mixing some popular ones with unique ones to sound like the player is looking in a specific direction. Rainbow lists can be used to do the same thing. Differences are:

Rainbow lists are more concrete. They limit options, which is sorta the opposite of what player salad does. Because all of the townreads are listed in there as well.

Rainbow lists invite discussion of all players, not just a select few.

Rainbow lists can be used for POE. Player salad cannot.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Feb 18, 2018 11:58 pm Y'all tell me who you want me to kill next night phase, and then tell me if you think it's worth using that kill if it roleblocks and level-blocks every other civilian.

Roleblocking every civ?

With the amount of info we're allowed to get from night actions, do you think it'd really be worth it? I tend not to, but I'm also new to the setup.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2018 1:12 pm Y'all are only answering half of my question.

The IMPORTANT half.

If I knew exactly who you should kill, I'd just suggest lynching him/her.

Maybe kill whoever survived the D1 lynch?

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2018 1:19 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2018 1:14 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2018 1:12 pm Y'all are only answering half of my question.

The IMPORTANT half.

If I knew exactly who you should kill, I'd just suggest lynching him/her.

Maybe kill whoever survived the D1 lynch?

The D1 lynch was alledgedly stopped by Epi, who stopped because he was going to miss the EoD1 so he wanted to play safe and avoid being lynched himself.

So not really indicative of the people who were leading it.

But if you wanna know, it would have been either Quin or Nutella.

Oh, okay. Thanks for the info.

I don't suggest vigging nutella. Quin's fine.

rundontwalk wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2018 1:50 pm Iron_Dwarf GTH who are your scummate?

I like you.

rundontwalk wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2018 3:21 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2018 1:57 pm

rundontwalk wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2018 1:50 pm Iron_Dwarf GTH who are your scummate?

I like you.

As a token of your love for me I want IronDwarf's head. Also flowers.

I will do my best.

[VOTE: Iron_Dwarf] aubergine

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2018 5:08 pm I miss dunya

Can you point me to/re-explain the reasons for your scumreads? I put you lower on my list because normally I can follow your processes, and right now I strongly disagree with most of your scumreads, and I don't know why.

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2018 5:43 pm speedchuck what are your reasons?

I haven't been here the whole time, so I was mostly following townreads onto him.

However, looking back in the Dwarf ISO, it looks like Dwarf has a somewhat legit beef with RDW. Hm. I should have more time tomorrow to look at this than I do today. Considering that the game is moving at a reasonable pace, I may even ISO some people.

Any suggestions as to who I should ISO tomorrow? I'm taking the first 5-7, one from each person to speak up. JJJ counts for like, 4 of those probably.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2018 6:08 pm I feel like we are in a pseudo lylo. No dead mafia by day 3 means its time for a different approach.

In a game this big?

Quin wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2018 10:10 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2018 10:58 am speedchuck
JaggedJimmyJay
sig
rundontwalk
Kenway
nutella
Dragon D. Luffy
Long Con
Kylemii
Kites
DrWilgy
Epignosis
gwilikers6
colonialbob
Marmot
Iron_Dwarf
sprityo
lapluie
MacDougall
Quin

Urgh, I keep cycling the bottom 6 of this list in random order. More confident in the top of the list.

I don't have a whole lot of time today, thus the readlist, but I can elaborate on a few of these.

elaborate on me pls

I'll do more tomorrow, but you know how I read you as town every time that you're town, and quickly? From Phenon to... Mountain mafia was it?

I'm not seeing that genuine town-tone Quin... that genuQuin.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 2:06 am A civilian JJJ does not have to burn himself out. He would still not lie down and take this.

He is bad. He is going mum. He is a big voice until someone challenges him. People give JJJ free reign over the civscape (ooh, did I just make a word?), but they never challenge him until it is too late.

Funny because the last time we had scum JJJ and were about to lynch him, he spewed like fifty posts into the thread as WIFOM. When JJJ was Bravo, he talked as much as possible while going down, and scraped his way to victory. "Going mum?"

Doesn't sound consistent with my meta-JJJ read.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:52 am

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2018 6:20 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2018 6:08 pm I feel like we are in a pseudo lylo. No dead mafia by day 3 means its time for a different approach.

In a game this big?

There is a point where town still has a positive ratio but mafia's numbers are good enough they can shut down every civ power and maybe add a few points of vote power to themselves.

Good luck lynching mafia now unless you can pull major feats in scumhunting.

How many scum do you think there are? Does it say anywhere?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 4:21 amDayvig rdw

Where I come from, faking day activations got you modkilled.

As such, I get a miniature heart attack whenever I see someone use one.

Stop it.

Alright, so 5 scum

24 players alive

guys I don't think this is MYLO/LYLO, under any circumstances.

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2018 11:56 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2018 11:53 pm

Quin wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2018 10:10 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2018 10:58 am speedchuck
JaggedJimmyJay
sig
rundontwalk
Kenway
nutella
Dragon D. Luffy
Long Con
Kylemii
Kites
DrWilgy
Epignosis
gwilikers6
colonialbob
Marmot
Iron_Dwarf
sprityo
lapluie
MacDougall
Quin

Urgh, I keep cycling the bottom 6 of this list in random order. More confident in the top of the list.

I don't have a whole lot of time today, thus the readlist, but I can elaborate on a few of these.

elaborate on me pls

I'll do more tomorrow, but you know how I read you as town every time that you're town, and quickly? From Phenon to... Mountain mafia was it?

I'm not seeing that genuine town-tone Quin... that genuQuin.

I'll believe in your Quindar when you support the claim with evidence.

In this post, I toneread Quin as town, in a game where a lot of people were against him. I did the same in Phenon, which I reference. I don't remember any other times.

I guess I can only accurately read Quin when I'm an indy.

But if you want to look at games where Quin underwent a lot of suspicion and I defended him, those are the two to go to.

Looking back, and wow, my play in Phenon was really good. Feel like I've gone downhill as a player lol.

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 1:27 pm Well, there ain't no Indys in this game! (right? I think I read that)

Your resume is Quinpressive. I'm Quinspired to lower Quin on my rainbow, and to Quinclude you in a touch greener shade. I also like your apt appraisal of the very recent and memorable evil-JJJ meta. Was JJJ the prolific as a baddie all the way through those games, or more toward the end?

Answering your statements and questions in order.
I don't think there are.
ohno what did I get started?
JJJ was more prolific when he was on the chopping block as bad. So near the end of his life in Mountain, and near the end of the game in Phenon: Origins.

So [mention]Kylemii[/mention], I think JJJ's behavior is a sign of good JJJ.

BTW between this game and Fellowship of the Ring, I like the way that the games on this site are allowing claims with open setups, by inventively including secrets and giving the baddies ways around it.

It's nice to be able to rolespec or claim instead of tiptoeing around everything. Heck, in this game, the claims are in the open from the start.

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 4:04 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 12:40 pm Alright, so 5 scum

24 players alive

guys I don't think this is MYLO/LYLO, under any circumstances.

Pretty sure there are 20 players alive?

You are correct. I looked at the wrong list in the opening thing

Of the people on the poll, I'm okay with a Wilgy or a Dwarf lynch.

Would appreciate if one of the JJJ voters unvoted. Twice have I seen scum JJJ as of late, and in one of those instances I was watching him with knowledge of his role the whole game. I don't think this is scum JJJ. I've already explained why, in part. I haven't seen a convincing case toward him, and I've taken apart the most substantiated case, because that case was factually wrong.

Right now JJJ is tied for the lead, and I may or may not return before deadline. Make good choices.

Hey I thought that day ended in ten minutes, but we have more time!

I could totally switch from ID to Quin. Or even to Wilgy. Should I?

(I don't currently see any reason to jump on nutella, and I'm pretty null on Lapluie)

Also why lynch cbob?

*walks into thread*

*face turns beet red*

*proceeds to eat all of the shrimp*

"I can't do two nights in a row, Sloonbear. The world needs me."

*brushes teeth to help Marmot with the smell, having eaten all the shrimp that Wilgy fed me*

RIP JJJ

[mention]dunya[/mention] This lance would have been yours, but it's all mine now. You jelly?


linki: [mention]Dragon D. Luffy[/mention] Why is ID a civ now?

gwilikers6 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 3:19 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 3:08 pm Cuz Gwilkers claimed to have x2 vote power when voting for a baddie.

So either he is BSing us, or ID is a civ, or there is another ability in play. The last is unlikely since the host just gave away that there was only one vote manioulation ability in this lynch.

I took that as very heavy sarcasm and that there are certainly more vote manipulation abilities. Don’t take my word for mine, it’s in the OP.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 2:06 pm I just wanna say it's adorable that some of you think I'm manually counting votes but there is probably only one role manipulating them.

[mention]Dragon D. Luffy[/mention] and Gwil yeah I took this as: "It's adorable that you guys think I'm counting the votes as they come and keeping the one role in mind."

The 'one role' is part of what's adorable to Jack. He probably has to use advanced linear algebra to figure out who got lynched, and we think it's only one role? Cute.

Though I'm sure Jack could clarify, so as not to leave you town-clearing a guy based on a misread of an amusing comment. Heck, like Gwil says, there are probably more vote affecting abilities in the OP

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 3:51 pm Some protective services for ID would be welcome. RIP JJJ. Who should I misdirect tonight?

Quin

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:04 pm k same question for me, who should I misdirect?

Long Con

(I'm kidding)

I townread Kenway. That's pretty much it in a nutshell.

colonialbob wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:17 pm @speedchuck who did you target last night?

Last night, I votestole.

Does it matter whose?

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:21 pm Guys, stop saying who you will misdirect out loud. You are just inviting mafia to use their actions on you if you announce a baddie target.

1. It's WIFOM for scum to deal with.

2. Look at the role. It's not really something that can be dealt with.

3. I don't actually know how targeting their redirector would help them?

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:28 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:26 pm

colonialbob wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:17 pm @speedchuck who did you target last night?

Last night, I votestole.

Does it matter whose?

Uh... yes?

You won't like it

[mention]colonialbob[/mention] I'm just interested in your answer. Mine is below.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:32 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:31 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:28 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:26 pm

colonialbob wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:17 pm @speedchuck who did you target last night?

Last night, I votestole.

Does it matter whose?

Uh... yes?

You won't like it

I don't care. Spill it.

Yours, bro.