The Syndicate

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 8:20 am So wait hold up, we're getting conquered and shit because we couldn't all just get along? Is that the story?

That's pretty much history, right?

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 6:33 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 6:28 pm

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 6:14 pm Votes are changeable

why marmot?

i'm leaning towards a scotty vote. is he usually sincere? is not voting for people you've never played with general etiquette? i've never played with him before but letting everyone he's never played with avoid his day 1 vote seems like a good way to seem friendly and agreeable.

Okay. A few things.

What kind of question is "is he usually sincere?" What does that even mean? Explain.

For some players, sure. Tends to be more so for LP-based players or old timers, but in my assessment it's not strikingly out of character for Scotty to say something like this if that's what you're wondering. Typically Scotty likes to vote for lower-participants or lurkers on Day 1; he usually has some sort of underlying method to his early votes.

And I can assume that you are taking this a step forward and implying Scotty is being disingenuous? Why single him out for that, instead of someone such as yours truly who has made a few posts that could be considered overly friendly so far?

First MP begins to talk. Then his words become more and more sarcastic, until he dies. When he resurrects he becomes completely pedantic.

But I'm digging his line of undead pedantic sarcastic questioning, so I'll give it a town read.

Golden wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 7:25 pm I was up to date with the thread briefly and it's all downhill from here.

If I had to put money on MPs alignment, it's town. Like, literally his first post pinged people. That seems like town MP to me.

Does that say anything about the people he pinged?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 6:43 pm Scotty used to be in the habit of voting low-posters early on. I think he did this in the Game of Champions but it started so long ago that I’m not sure.

Giving new/unfamiliar players a pass on Day 1 is not uncommon among the various cultures that The Syndicate grew up from. The tenants of this community are hospitality, murder, and mayhem.

Thanks for the background.

Does any of that factor in to give you a read on Scotty, Dunya, or MP?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 7:53 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 7:42 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 6:43 pm Scotty used to be in the habit of voting low-posters early on. I think he did this in the Game of Champions but it started so long ago that I’m not sure.

Giving new/unfamiliar players a pass on Day 1 is not uncommon among the various cultures that The Syndicate grew up from. The tenants of this community are hospitality, murder, and mayhem.

Thanks for the background.

Does any of that factor in to give you a read on Scotty, Dunya, or MP?

A little bit.

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dunya wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 4:04 am

Spoiler: show

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 7:39 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 6:33 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 6:28 pm

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 6:14 pm Votes are changeable

why marmot?

i'm leaning towards a scotty vote. is he usually sincere? is not voting for people you've never played with general etiquette? i've never played with him before but letting everyone he's never played with avoid his day 1 vote seems like a good way to seem friendly and agreeable.

Okay. A few things.

What kind of question is "is he usually sincere?" What does that even mean? Explain.

For some players, sure. Tends to be more so for LP-based players or old timers, but in my assessment it's not strikingly out of character for Scotty to say something like this if that's what you're wondering. Typically Scotty likes to vote for lower-participants or lurkers on Day 1; he usually has some sort of underlying method to his early votes.

And I can assume that you are taking this a step forward and implying Scotty is being disingenuous? Why single him out for that, instead of someone such as yours truly who has made a few posts that could be considered overly friendly so far?

First MP begins to talk. Then his words become more and more sarcastic, until he dies. When he resurrects he becomes completely pedantic.

But I'm digging his line of undead pedantic sarcastic questioning, so I'll give it a town read.

???

was MP being sarcastic with me? I just thought he was using those tags for color differences. I feel stupid now.

(Twas a joke. You are correct.)

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 4:05 am

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 7:40 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 7:25 pm I was up to date with the thread briefly and it's all downhill from here.

If I had to put money on MPs alignment, it's town. Like, literally his first post pinged people. That seems like town MP to me.

Does that say anything about the people he pinged?

what does it say about us to YOU, is the question, speedchuck.

It says you are avoiding basic ans... wait, you aren't Golden.

Not answering this right now, because you freaks have posted 5 more pages of content and I'm not getting bogged down with outdated reads.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 8:45 am Playing as Mafia 101

Professor Mac:

"Here are 5 common scum tropes that somehow always work on people:

Do you really think I would do X if I was bad?
Fuck this, I'm out
You never read me correctly
Would I have really bussed Steve in that situation?
This isn't my scum meta

Thanks for attending. You all get a c because I am a shit professor."

I use these as town and mafia. Play enough games and you always can make one of these work.

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 8:59 am

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:55 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:47 amI am rather intrigued by your style of defense. It's unique. Hard to describe. I must dwell.

Try not to think of it as defence. I'm not saying any of it to save myself but to give you perspective on my posts.

I'm fine being lynched today, but it won't get the town anywhere. However, I could still win the game and notch a victory on the meta-belt.

Or you could leave me around and I could help solve the game.

OMG, the final nail in the Golden is town coffin.

Dude, we're both town. Let's do this.

I agreed with your Golden posts until this one.

Cmon, dude. That's the thing literally everyone says under pressure.

A message to Dunya, Golden, and mayyybe Macdougall.

When someone makes a post, and it pings you, you should explain why, and elaborate when questioned. Then you (both sides) can accept what people say about you and move on to other things.

Instead, you guys have been staking your claim on said post and building beautiful multi-dimensional castles with multiple meta-arrangements that last for a hundred posts.

Just wanted to say that. I'm not going to try reading into these "he said she said" arguments. I can't follow them.

I'll bring in some reads in a moment.

Town reads:
Speedchuck
Choutas
Dom
Kylemii
Kites
Scotty
sig
Sloonei
M Plus 7

Remainders:
ColinIsCool
dunya - Dunya's questioning is all over the place, but I remember it being that way in MK and in Vocaroo. She actually ended up getting lynched for it in MK, even though she pointed out the scumteam. I can't clear Dunya on a meta read, though, because I've never played with scum dunya.
Epignosis
Golden - Has done some really towny things. I didn't even mind his meta defense, but for a couple of posts that pinged me. Those that Mac didn't point out, I already did.
Jackofhearts2005
lapluie
Long Con
Lunalee
MacDougall - Wanna see how he approaches non-golden players before assigning a townread
Marmot
novaselinenever
Spacedaisy
Turnip Head
wolbre04

Feel free to call me on any of these reads. Busy day, can't do them all, so this list is for you to pick and choose.
I'll narrow down and pick out scumreads from my remainders by tomorrow.

sig wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:56 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 11:40 amIf.

Not really lynch worthy though is it?

I concur.

Epi lays low as scum, sure, but he's useful as town. Game has actually been going for less than 24 hours, finals for schoolteachers are approaching, etc. Epi hasn't been super active this weekend either, and has had company if I remember right.

I'm not going to lay a lazy vote on Epi for activity, and I caution against wasting your time with it today.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 2:44 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:58 pm

sig wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:56 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 11:40 amIf.

Not really lynch worthy though is it?

I concur.

Epi lays low as scum, sure, but he's useful as town. Game has actually been going for less than 24 hours, finals for schoolteachers are approaching, etc. Epi hasn't been super active this weekend either, and has had company if I remember right.

I'm not going to lay a lazy vote on Epi for activity, and I caution against wasting your time with it today.

What do you mean by this? Epi is a pretty bold scum player in my experience? I absolutely do not take his absence from this thread as a mark of suspicion.

The one time I played with scum Epi, he was practically AFK for a quarter of the game.

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 3:26 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 3:25 pm

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 3:21 pm Epi is more than fashionably late at this point

Vote him and see if we can summon him from his casket.

Have the wooden stake ready

if you hold him down I'll thrust

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 4:46 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:58 pm

sig wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:56 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 11:40 amIf.

Not really lynch worthy though is it?

I concur.

Epi lays low as scum, sure, but he's useful as town. Game has actually been going for less than 24 hours, finals for schoolteachers are approaching, etc. Epi hasn't been super active this weekend either, and has had company if I remember right.

I'm not going to lay a lazy vote on Epi for activity, and I caution against wasting your time with it today.

Is it lazy to vote someone for lack of activity?* I don’t particularly like this post.** Why so passionate about epi when he only has two votes?***

*It is for me.
**Aw. It's okay. I didn't make it to please you.
***I don't think I'm passionate about it. That's just the way I write. With aggressiveness and passion. Yes, that kind of passion. Why else would I play mafia?

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 5:05 pm :hmm:

Epi's curse seems random af

Unless it's in *secrets*, I don't think it's on the role list.

Methinks he's faking it?

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:40 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 11:16 am Town reads:
Speedchuck
Kylemii

Feel free to call me on any of these reads. Busy day, can't do them all, so this list is for you to pick and choose.
I'll narrow down and pick out scumreads from my remainders by tomorrow.

why was i a townread for you at the time of this post

You're asking questions about people you're unfamiliar with. That's a Kylemii thing. Nothing you've asked seemed disingenuous. You don't seem like you're forcing yourself one way or another. Your tone is not stressed at all.

It's a D1 townread, sure, but I'll stand by it.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 9:48 pm [VOTE: Vote Epignosis] aubergine

Eggplant.

(vote in the poll, like this)

[VOTE: Epi] aubergine

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 10:12 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:58 pm

sig wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:56 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 11:40 amIf.

Not really lynch worthy though is it?

I concur.

Epi lays low as scum, sure, but he's useful as town. Game has actually been going for less than 24 hours, finals for schoolteachers are approaching, etc. Epi hasn't been super active this weekend either, and has had company if I remember right.

I'm not going to lay a lazy vote on Epi for activity, and I caution against wasting your time with it today.

If I need an apologist, I'll attain an honest one.

[VOTE: speedchuck] aubergine

Explain night vale, or give me a different scum game to suggest differently.

Also, explain how I'm an apologist.

Epi's posts with content:

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 9:25 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 12:23 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 7:44 pm I should let you all know that I just started a new job so I have less time overall right now, and if it seems like I'm lurking, I more than likely just haven't seen the thread yet.

I'm gonna [VOTE: ColinIsCool] aubergine because he dropped this post and then left. The thread wasn't bustling with activity at the time, but there was enough going on that he could have offered a comment or two on something. I want Colin to say things when he has a chance.

I woke up to ~300 new posts and I have some grown up things to take care of before I go to work today. I sense that I'll be playing from behind early in this game.

Sloonei thinks his shield is bigger than Colin's shield.

[VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine

This looks good at first glance. But Sloonei has given us stuff to work with already, even popping in this time. His point stands. But don't worry, Epi won't pursue this.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 9:46 pm

wolbre04 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:08 pm

sig wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 11:52 am wolbre04 When you get the chance what do you think of the Golden, MP, Mac, and Dunya?

D1 is purely conjecture on my part until someone does something overly messy to me, but Golden and Mac seem to be interested in leading the pack and being outspoken
This is fine of course, but the later the game goes, the more I consider whether they are just leading us right into the fire

"The later the game goes the more I consider whether" means you are assured you will be around later to act on this seed.

And the fire is not dangerous if you cannot be led to it.

wolbre04 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:08 pm Dunya was really helpful, but basically a neutral leaning town

dunya has not been helpful, and you two are teammates.

[VOTE: wolbre04] aubergine

Epi gets onto wolbre for thinking he might survive the day. He also advises wolbre not to be led so easily, which... wolbre was already commenting on.
Then Epi makes a herculean leap in logic. If Epi's reason for Wolbre being bad is tied to Dunya, why not lynch Dunya instead of the newbie who won't put up a fight?
What ARE Epi's reasons for voting wolbre in the first place?

Don't worry, Epi won't pursue this.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 10:12 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:58 pm

sig wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:56 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 11:40 amIf.

Not really lynch worthy though is it?

I concur.

Epi lays low as scum, sure, but he's useful as town. Game has actually been going for less than 24 hours, finals for schoolteachers are approaching, etc. Epi hasn't been super active this weekend either, and has had company if I remember right.

I'm not going to lay a lazy vote on Epi for activity, and I caution against wasting your time with it today.

If I need an apologist, I'll attain an honest one.

[VOTE: speedchuck] aubergine

Other people have said I was wrong here already. Still waiting for proof to contradict what I've seen and heard. I'm not worried though. I don't think Epi will pursue this. (Although now that I'm being antagonistic, he might.)

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 10:15 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:59 pm every game Dom has been in with me, he ended up being inactive so this is actually the first time I get to play with him and I'm not at all familiar with his meta. from what I have heard, this seems to be Dom being Dom.

Citation needed.

I guess this is content? People might be nitpicky about its absence, so I included it. I have no reason to believe Epi will pursue this, and I honestly don't think it's a scumslip. It doesn't make sense as one.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 10:36 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 10:26 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 10:12 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:58 pm

sig wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:56 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 11:40 amIf.

Not really lynch worthy though is it?

I concur.

Epi lays low as scum, sure, but he's useful as town. Game has actually been going for less than 24 hours, finals for schoolteachers are approaching, etc. Epi hasn't been super active this weekend either, and has had company if I remember right.

I'm not going to lay a lazy vote on Epi for activity, and I caution against wasting your time with it today.

If I need an apologist, I'll attain an honest one.

[VOTE: speedchuck] aubergine

Explain night vale, or give me a different scum game to suggest differently.

Take your pick.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 10:26 pm Also, explain how I'm an apologist.

An apologist is one who speaks or writes in defense of someone or something. It's of Greek origin. You speak Greek, do you not?

I am a scholar, sir. Of course I speak Greek. But I wouldn't say I'm defending you. Nay, my vote has been placed on you.

sig wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 8:58 am [VOTE: nova ] aubergine the case on them is uninspiring and honestly i can't tell their alignment, but I'd rather we not lynch epi or dunya and novq has from my memory coasted through entire games as mafia on NF.

You don't have to 'settle' yet. We have 9 hours to find another road to go down.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 10:46 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 10:34 pm
Don't worry, Epi won't pursue this.

I don't think Epi will pursue this.

I have no reason to believe Epi will pursue this

If you know me so well, you won't need my curriculum vitae.

I usually expect you to either make definitive town reads or grab potential scummies by the tail and shake them until their defenses are spent. In this game you've voted like 5 different people in 15 posts, and each vote has had very little oomph to it. I don't know what to do with that.

Pleh I was going to look through your scumgames but all you did was link the hall of fame. That's a lot of trouble. I'd rather just take the word of the number of people that said I was wrong about you being a lower poster as scum.

sig wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 9:02 am

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 9:00 am

sig wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 8:58 am [VOTE: nova ] aubergine the case on them is uninspiring and honestly i can't tell their alignment, but I'd rather we not lynch epi or dunya and novq has from my memory coasted through entire games as mafia on NF.

You don't have to 'settle' yet. We have 9 hours to find another road to go down.

My activity is going to probably be non-existent today so I'm in a bit of a rush to get my vote somewhere that I'm comfortable with.

Though i still find dom and to a lesser extent mp suspicious.

I read over Nova's posts and have zero reason to be comfy with a nova vote.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 9:31 am Much content with little to make me content.

I think you are vastly overestimating the amount of content I've had time to make. Epi has more posts than me.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 12:24 pm

sig wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 11:18 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 11:08 am Statistically speaking, we’re likely to catch a baddie by lynching Speedchuck.

Why

Cause Speed is always mafia, similar to how I’m always town.

Only 4/6 games this year so far. Okay, yeah.

I feel like my town meta is suffering. GoC didn't help. I spent half that game simultaneously being town and scumfirmed.

Turns out I'm a lot busier than I thought I'd be today. I'll try to catch up, revise my list, add suspicions, and vote in the 20 or so minutes I have.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:27 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:58 pm

sig wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:56 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 11:40 amIf.

Not really lynch worthy though is it?

I concur.

Epi lays low as scum, sure, but he's useful as town. Game has actually been going for less than 24 hours, finals for schoolteachers are approaching, etc. Epi hasn't been super active this weekend either, and has had company if I remember right.

I'm not going to lay a lazy vote on Epi for activity, and I caution against wasting your time with it today.

How does your current Epi vote differentiate itself from a "lazy" vote based on his activity?

Did an entire analysis of Epi's non-comittal prodding, unoriginal posts, and lack of civ oomph. It was half an ISO. And it had nothing to do with post number.

But yes, all of my votes this game will be based on user activity. Not, like, their usernames or divination.

I'll probably be moving my vote though. I find Epi's behavior scummy, but it's not IDEAL scummy. And while I've only played one game with bad Epi, he has a pretty good record as king of evil, and if he were a bad dude, he could do better than this. Those with better meta reads have concurred.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:34 pm Speedchuck, gimme a read on lunalee. Please and thanks.

GTH town.

Though I've never played mafia, IRL or elsewhere, with a scum Luna. At least, I don't remember doing so.

My reads are so weak I'm going to have to GTH them to get any scumreads. List and vote incoming.

I'm going to pick 7 scum out of our playerlist. Gun to head. One for each scum and one for the 3P potential scums. That's an arbitrary number, I know.

Choutas - SCUM
ColinIsCool - SCUM
Dom - TOWN
dunya - TOWN
Epignosis - SCUM
Golden - TOWN
Jackofhearts2005 - TOWN
Kites - TOWN
Kylemii - SCUM
lapluie - SCUM
Long Con - TOWN
Lunalee - TOWN
M Plus 7 - TOWN
MacDougall - TOWN
Marmot - SCUM
novaselinenever - TOWN
Scotty - TOWN
sig - TOWN
Sloonei - TOWN
Spacedaisy - SCUM
speedchuck - TOWN
Turnip Head - SCUM
wolbre04 - TOWN

This is hard when we have so many low posters and so many high posters and not so many in-betweens.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:49 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:47 pm I'm going to pick 7 scum out of our playerlist. Gun to head. One for each scum and one for the 3P potential scums. That's an arbitrary number, I know.

Choutas - SCUM
ColinIsCool - SCUM
Dom - TOWN
dunya - TOWN
Epignosis - SCUM
Golden - TOWN
Jackofhearts2005 - TOWN
Kites - TOWN
Kylemii - SCUM
lapluie - SCUM
Long Con - TOWN
Lunalee - TOWN
M Plus 7 - TOWN
MacDougall - TOWN
Marmot - SCUM
novaselinenever - TOWN
Scotty - TOWN
sig - TOWN
Sloonei - TOWN
Spacedaisy - SCUM
speedchuck - TOWN
Turnip Head - SCUM
wolbre04 - TOWN

This is hard when we have so many low posters and so many high posters and not so many in-betweens.

Which names surprised you or gave you the most pause on this list?

Nova. I was considering moving my vote to him from Epi, but no. I hold firm. I'm not certain on Epi, but I suspect him more than Nova. I don't have a reason to vote Nova.

Spacedaisy. I hadn't realized she was in the game. I POE'd it to her.

Kylemii. Gave me a lot of pause, but that good feeling I got from his first few posts is gone. He's skating.

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 3:00 pm @speedchuck why pick out a defined number of scum? That sounds like the opposite of what a GTH read list is supposed to be: spontaneous

Is it? I'm new to GTH. I thought the gun was only supposed to force you to say town or scum instead of null.

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:58 pm Switching my vote to Spacedaisy because pretty much her only on topic posts so far are interactions with dunya which include a mild defense, followed by a step back, then a step forward.

Soooo not that you're wrong, but can you explain why these posts bring you to that conclusion, and what that says about Dunya?
Is your scumread of daisy predicated on Dunya also being scum?

I've read his ISO thrice. I don't get it. Why the heck are [mention]MacDougall[/mention], [mention]sig[/mention], and [mention]Turnip Head[/mention] voting for Nova?

I'm looking to possibly move my vote and the only two options that really matter at this point (I'll be completely AFK for the last 2 hours of day) are:

Dunya - this lynch is based on a scumslip I don't believe occurred. Frankly, I think it's ridiculous, and I refuse to vote there.
Nova - I have no idea why Nova has any votes.

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 3:38 pm I think I trust you, TH. At least for now. Enjoy a town read.

Why though

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 3:15 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 3:12 pm I'm looking to possibly move my vote and the only two options that really matter at this point (I'll be completely AFK for the last 2 hours of day) are:

Dunya - this lynch is based on a scumslip I don't believe occurred. Frankly, I think it's ridiculous, and I refuse to vote there.
Nova - I have no idea why Nova has any votes.

Talk about Jack and Marmot

On second thought I like Marmot's votes. They good. The first half of his ISO pinged me, but I like the recent stuff. He's moving from zany to business, which doesn't usually happen when he's scum.

Jack has towned. He is towning.

Hm. I'm not pleased with the outcome, and I had Sig as a townread, but having caught up in the thread for the night, I can't say I'm mad about it. Sig kept his vote parked on Nova (I still never saw a reason for ANYONE who was doing that) and refused to engage questions that people put to him.

I read him as town, but at least people had reasons to vote him unlike with Nova.

Lots to dig into though. I was addressed several times while I was gone, and I'll talk about the one I remember.

I think Luna is town. She is playing as I would expect her to on D1 in her first online mafia game.
(But speed, this is not her first online mafia game!)
You think burglaries and freaking Image Mafia count? Not that Luna played much differently in the burglaries. She was town then as well. We have put up more content in one day than Luna has parsed in her entire syndicate run, and I think her posts work with her latching onto elements that she can follow and giving what opinions she has.
I don't discourage pursuing a scumread on her and asking her questions. It might help her to engage with the thread, since she is a "true freshman" and not a "transfer" like Nova, Wolbre, etc. Just keep the filter in mind. And through my filter, I see her as town.

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 8:53 pm Hopefully after tonight info roles will be able to point us in some better directions.

No role claims, alignment claims, etc.

Don't count on it. We do have *results* though. Information, if you will (hi Epi). Having a flip or two to work with is going to help me for sure!

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 9:26 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 8:57 pm Lots to dig into though. I was addressed several times while I was gone, and I'll talk about the one I remember.

I think Luna is town. She is playing as I would expect her to on D1 in her first online mafia game.
(But speed, this is not her first online mafia game!)
You think burglaries and freaking Image Mafia count? Not that Luna played much differently in the burglaries. She was town then as well. We have put up more content in one day than Luna has parsed in her entire syndicate run, and I think her posts work with her latching onto elements that she can follow and giving what opinions she has.
I don't discourage pursuing a scumread on her and asking her questions. It might help her to engage with the thread, since she is a "true freshman" and not a "transfer" like Nova, Wolbre, etc. Just keep the filter in mind. And through my filter, I see her as town.

is lunalee relatively new? not from RYM or one of those sites?

She's my wife. She's never played online mafia but on this site.

Golden wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 10:16 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 10:03 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 9:42 pmShe's myy wiiiife. *borat voice*

seriously? I had no idea

Lunalee wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 9:41 pmYep, here's the "get to know me post" I made in the Intro thread:

so then would you rate your level of familiarity with dunya and golden's respective fetas as being generally pretty low?

I don’t eat feta

Scum.

Nova voters:

I'm completely baffled by Turnip Head.

Macdougall's analysis today (tonight I guess) is fantastic, and makes me wonder why his name is in this pile. He has Nova as a town read now. It appears that his vote was in place for the same reason I ended up staying on Epi. The alternatives sucked. Still looks weird.

Sig is obviously town.

Mac has a pretty good case on Sloonei. It's the kind of case I like to see, based on motives rather than slips or 'weirdness.' I'd probably put a vote there RN if it was daytime.
Haven't read the Sloonei response, yet.

linki: Why is a long post suspicious?

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 6:00 am second of all, please review MK. my vote landed on speedchuck who only JJJ voted with me on, when I could have voted for Simon and saved myself as the second wagon. Even though I was suspicious of Simon (and he was scum), speed kind of scumslipped and when a scum scumslips, you go after the player you're 100% sure is scum rather than someone you're 85% sure of.

Did not.

(On the catch-up train guys)

I'm skim milk rn

[mention]MacDougall[/mention] Do you still want votes piled on ColinisCool?

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 10:54 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 10:51 am

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 10:09 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 10:08 am I always look suspicious. It only delights me when I'm Civ.

That's not a townie mindset.

Dang, because I feel the same way as LC does here in every game.

Really? I thought I was weird.

Towny people get nightkilled. Screw that noise. Endgame is worth getting to.

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 10:57 am

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 10:55 am @MacDougall Do you still want votes piled on ColinisCool?

What do you want?

If he's still doing a thing, I want to help.

If not, and I wanted to consolidate, I'd vote Sloonei. I suspect Sloon more than Colin. (though I do suspect Colin, or I wouldn't be asking)

But what I really want to do is start some entirely new votes since we're only a fourth of the way through the day. I'd probably start with [mention]Quin[/mention]. My Quindar has not given me the genu-Quin townread yet, and I usually get that as soon as he starts posting.

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 11:23 am Just realized I never did wish Spacedaisy a happy birthday, so here's one.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY @Spacedaisy!!!!!

"The day after my birthday is not my birthday Marm"

Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 4:06 pm @speedchuck , I'm surprised you haven't placed a vote yet today. Who do you suspect?

Coliniscool, Sloonei, Quin... and I could probably find some others with an ISO.

I have plenty of time to place my vote, and I've been waiting for Mac to come back so I could pry about his 'plan.' But I'll go ahead and vote for colin anyway.
[VOTE: coliniscool] aubergine