The Syndicate

Wondering how elaborate I can make this award reveal.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Jan 28, 2019 12:46 pm This game is like when you arrive at school after missing a day and find out the teacher assigned a surprise homework and it's due in two days.

Well, on to it.

Lucky we have like 4 days though

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Jan 28, 2019 1:55 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Jan 28, 2019 1:20 pm Is this game eligible for next year’s “best game“ socky?

Why yes, I do suppose that it is.

Sockyception

S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Jan 29, 2019 5:38 am And rey, that video is the cutest thing ever.

She thinks the video is off topic

Little does she know that I have socks

G-Man wrote: ↑Wed Jan 30, 2019 8:19 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jan 30, 2019 12:44 am I don't know how to get this going. It's Day 1, is it not?

Memories of speed games from The Piano days are coming back to me. Those were the days when these rapid-paced games weren’t taken so seriously. We had an understanding that those were the kinds of games where everyone could chill out, goof around, and play like crap. Sheer luck won in those games.

I really want to play a game like this. It sounds really fun.

But I also want to win, so...

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jan 30, 2019 9:52 am G-Man breaking rules already.

"Please direct all questions to me by personal message. I prefer to avoid all opportunities for host influence upon the direction of a game or its discussion as possible, and this is one way in which I limit that. If I feel a question is pertinent to everyone, I will then answer it publicly. Do not discuss any private interactions with the host in the game thread."

Got 'em.

Mafia are more likely to read the rules, though. Fact.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jan 30, 2019 11:25 am

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Jan 30, 2019 11:23 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jan 30, 2019 9:52 am G-Man breaking rules already.

"Please direct all questions to me by personal message. I prefer to avoid all opportunities for host influence upon the direction of a game or its discussion as possible, and this is one way in which I limit that. If I feel a question is pertinent to everyone, I will then answer it publicly. Do not discuss any private interactions with the host in the game thread."

Got 'em.

Mafia are more likely to read the rules, though. Fact.

Did you read the rules?

Alas, I have not. Only skimmed down to the award presentation guidelines.

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Jan 30, 2019 12:52 pm Oh and in case it wasn't clear I believe that Epi is exhibiting behavior that indicates he received a mafia role card.

Such as?

Lunalee wrote: ↑Wed Jan 30, 2019 3:54 pm Ugh, the poll has way too many single votes on it right now.

Maybe you could fix that?

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Jan 30, 2019 4:29 pm But we only have 4.5 hours so yeah who should we start grouping votes onto? I'd love to hear thoughts other than my own

Oh.

So many inactives...

24 hour day...

hm

G-Man wrote: ↑Wed Jan 30, 2019 4:43 pm Makes you wonder if killing an inactive is the right move.

Doesn't it though? (inactive in my eyes being someone inactive in the past 24 hours, btw. Everyone's posted at least once, I think.)

But at the same time, mafia folks are more likely to post just a little to get by IMO. Gives them a way to control the vote if we start going after inactives.

I don't really want to lynch the more active people or the inactives, but how do I choose between people who have only made a few non-game-related posts?

I too, nutella

I don't think anyone's really worth trusting on page 3.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jan 30, 2019 6:26 pm My vote is on Enrique. Asking a question without the proper punctuation, showing us Aunt Rachel and then fucking off elsewhere does nothing for me.

I can get behind this

Have we ever had a four-way tie in the history of the syndicate? Because we should do that.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jan 31, 2019 2:26 am sabie is a big suspect. She is too cautious.

Has there been a Sabie game where she isn't like this?

Enrique wrote: ↑Thu Jan 31, 2019 10:44 pm Hello fellow civilians who are we looking to lynch

What are you really, Enrique? We promise we won't be mad.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 31, 2019 9:13 pm I am struggling fam. Kill me plz.

I don't know what this is.

sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Feb 01, 2019 2:55 pm We should just lynch epi

Oh hey you're back.

Why though?

colonialbob wrote: ↑Fri Feb 01, 2019 6:57 pm @MacDougall: @Dragon D. Luffy, @speedchuck



[VOTE: speedchuck] aubergine

I voted there first

Game this size probably has... what, 4 scum? 3P?

If we aren't going to try and build wagons larger than 2 or 3 votes, we'll be throwing strategy out the window.

Enrique wrote: ↑Fri Feb 01, 2019 9:19 pm Memories of speed games from The Piano days are coming back to me. Those were the days when these rapid-paced games weren’t taken so seriously. We had an understanding that those were the kinds of games where everyone could chill out, goof around, and play like crap. Sheer luck won in those games.

What page are we on again?

I'm pretty sure we're playing this type of game.

sabie12 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 02, 2019 8:30 am I know I'm not one of the cool players that anyone wants around or cares about playing with sorry. I was at least right that voting Enrique wasnt the right move.

Wrong. You're totes cool.

RIP Eko.

Oh, good. I've had an occupied weekend, thanks for the 48 hour phase.

I'll jump in and see what's up if I have time today between all my prep activities

I just read over the Macdougall case on Nutella. It's a pretty good run-down. Not perfect, but pretty good. I have half a mind to take Mac's suspicions and coast on them all game, like I did in GoC. Nightkill analysis, baby.

Problem is, this analysis came in on D3, and I had nutella as a semi-strong townread. Let's talk about some of the suspicions.

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Feb 01, 2019 10:01 pm This is the second fucking stupid lynch in a row of a cool player who I would have liked to play with just because people are being fucking lazy

I don't really have a beef with this post. It's not so much "Enrique was obviously town, boo to the voters, they all scum, I'm so town dontcha kno" and more genuine to me BECAUSE it isn't lamenting his role or alignment as much as the fact that he was around and interesting.
And she's not even wrong about the laziness. We on page 11, and this is D3. That's insane.

Nutella also doesn't have a reason to put herself out there and agitate the thread/voters with this if she's scum. In a more active game, this kind of talk could shame people and put nutella on a town pedestal. In this game, it just makes her stand out. I posit that, with the flow of the game as is, spurring on this discussion and kicking that hornets' nest is much less scummish than just taking the lynches as they come.

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Feb 02, 2019 2:04 pm

Lunalee wrote: ↑Sat Feb 02, 2019 12:19 pmA bit relieved that Enrique flipped town. That makes me look good.
But RIP another townie.

No it doesn't wtf

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Feb 02, 2019 2:07 pm My whole thing was I thought you had TMI on him so how you think his flip looks good for you is beyond me.

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Feb 02, 2019 2:12 pm The same could apply to me then. But you were weirder about it.

Hypocrisy is a staple of the town playbook.

At first glance, these are the only counterarguments I have toward the town nutella that I'm seeing. It comes down to motive, like Mac's post does. He alleged that Nutella is trying to put herself in a good position using TMI. I think it was a mix of nutella being aggressive and waffley. While waffles are not really a town play, regardless of the person, aggression is just not called for at all in this game.

I didn't address all of Mac's points, though. And Nutella believing the truth meta thing is ew, regardless of alignment.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Feb 04, 2019 11:46 am I gotta say guys, this is not more exciting than the Super Bowl tbh.

I didn't watch it, but I heard the halftime show was bad.

Then again, what did they expect from Maroon 5?

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Feb 04, 2019 12:41 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Feb 04, 2019 11:52 am And Nutella believing the truth meta thing is ew, regardless of alignment.

Hey, no. That is uncharitable toward both enri and me. I said I know his character and can tell when he is legit. It's a gut thing from being friends with him for 10 years. Maybe that is unfair to everyone else, I don't mean to exclude people, it's just a specific sense that I have of him and I felt with certainty that he was town. It's not any more "ew" than if you defended Luna more than anyone else for example. It just so happened that it was in the context of a "truth meta" claim, which held water for me due to my understanding of enri's personality.

No, that's not what I mean.

I mean f*** "truth meta."

To be blunt, every interaction I have had with those two words put together has been negative. So when someone reacts positively to it, I blanch because positive reinforcement is a thing. Nothing to do with you and Enri.
Though, hey, I didn't know you knew him that well. Reinforces my interpretation of your posts.

And I don't defend Luna more than anyone else. Whenever I do, she ends up being scum.

I just now voted Sprityo. I think he's the quietest of the quiet in this game, and I wanna know why.

Apparently I'm in good company. Hi cbob.

linki: In the game of champions, I was like "I think I've figured her out now, this is it, I finally understand!" Cue scum flip. . . . cue table flip.

reywaS wrote: ↑Mon Feb 04, 2019 5:50 pm DO IT

You didn't say the magic word.

[mention]reywaS[/mention] You've been talking all about your town meta. That means you would know how to emulate it. That's why I don't usually take meta defenses at face value.
But as long as we're here anyway, what is your scum meta? How is it different from your town one?

[mention]Dragon D. Luffy[/mention] Do you still think nutella should be lynched? Why? If you could control the lynch entirely (like a super hero), where would you put it tomorrow?

[mention]colonialbob[/mention] Same question as DDL. But can you give me a top three suspects, so I can see where your head is at? I think you can do that even with Futurama gifs.

G-Man is lamenting the game being over or something, but I haven't seen a MYLO marker yet. And I've seen comebacks from worse that this. No need to get all negative.
It's the only thing I've suspected G-Man for all game. Someone pointed out in a recent game that dissing on town is usually a scum thing. I've found that to be true.

That said, I'm still sitting with a light townread on G-man.

Who here would like to play a case-making game? I have an idea for one.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 05, 2019 9:43 pm Who's supposed to get lynched this time?

I think it was... DDL? I'm down, I think. Will have to go over it.

Also ayyyy I'm a nominee! Though it's "Best Mafioso," not "got tons of mafia wins that year by virtue of having good teammates." Can't wait to see the reveal, cbob!

[mention]Sloonei[/mention] ???

Hrm. It's weird that it's not MYLO right now.

G-Man wrote: ↑Wed Feb 06, 2019 12:40 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:21 am Hrm. It's weird that it's not MYLO right now.

My thoughts revolve around the presence of some kind of indy role. There are still ten of us. If there are three mafia (my assumption for a game this size) and an indy, then that still gives us one more day. Today is critical, however, in determining if the civvies will have a chance to win. In my mind, we’re screwed if this lynch goes wrong. I’m something of an optimist in real life but I’m a tin-foiling pessimist when it comes to mafia.

I would have assumed 4 mafia, is the thing. But I guess a third party could explain things. Maybe even the extra kill.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Feb 06, 2019 2:27 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:20 am @Sloonei ???

ur always bad. And also something about your initial response to me today was icky.

If I ever actually get lynched because "always bad" I'm gonna flip.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Feb 06, 2019 2:28 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Feb 05, 2019 11:29 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 05, 2019 9:43 pm Who's supposed to get lynched this time?

I think it was... DDL? I'm down, I think. Will have to go over it.

Also ayyyy I'm a nominee! Though it's "Best Mafioso," not "got tons of mafia wins that year by virtue of having good teammates." Can't wait to see the reveal, cbob!

Deferring to common consnsus rather than positing his own reads. Whack.

reywaS wrote: ↑Wed Feb 06, 2019 2:39 pm what does MYLO mean

Means you lose if you lynch the wrong person.

In other words, if you have 6 good and 4 bad... then lynch one good... you have 5 good 4 bad. After the nightkill, that's 4v4. Game over.

Usually hosts warn the players when we hit MYLO, so it looks like we're sitting at 3 scum.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Feb 06, 2019 2:42 pm Who has a strong conviction about a particular player right now?

G-man does.

I townread Nutella, SVS, and G-Man though I disagree with him on some of his reads.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 06, 2019 4:03 pm Like Reywas found a place where he can be angry at me for voting him once and now he can just sit there confortably, not doing anything but vote me for the rest of the game.

Are you suspicious or jealous?

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Feb 06, 2019 5:01 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Feb 06, 2019 3:22 pm [VOTE: kylemii] aubergine

He’s too cool and his coolness is freezing both the outside world and the progress of this thread.

yeah that's just kind of how my life is right now i guess

This DDL lynch seems as 'easy' as every other lynch that's happened up till now. Sloonei's like, the only one trying to start up discussion and it's falling flat. Makes me nervous, like the flow of the thread is just gonna bury DDL and people are sitting back and letting it.

reywaS wrote: ↑Mon Feb 04, 2019 9:47 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Feb 04, 2019 8:47 pm

G-Man wrote: ↑Mon Feb 04, 2019 8:40 pm Man O’Day! Are you kidding me? We’re taking the non-participant option on Day 3 after two consecutive mislynches AND down four confirmed civs? He better flip mafia or else it’s game over for the civs.

I agree. This sounds like the easy path to baddie victory.

[VOTE: Reywas] aubergine

I'll take the non-lazy option. At least there is some precedent to mafia faking meltdowns.

lmao

please do tell where was i faking a meltdown?

G-Man wrote: ↑Tue Feb 05, 2019 8:17 pm Meandering about town tonight for a few errands. If I die, you’ve got my spreadsheet to evaluate. You’re welcome.

If I live, I’ll expound upon the following points:

Dragon D. Luffy hasn’t triggered my usual auto-sus for him. For that reason, I suspect him. Many of his posts are short and to the point. There are just a few in his ISO of any considerable length. That suggests a cautious approach, which seems abnormal to me.

S~V~S is the opposite. She’s gotten a little explainy, a trait seen more often when she’s bad. She likes to shut people down by poking right back. She’s a slick, measured baddie, who can all but talk you into self-voting if you’re not careful. She’s not displaying busted SVS tone yet though. She dropped her suspicion of me too quickly and she’s come close to using her perceived expectations of others’ meta to plant seeds in the minds of others.

Kylemii is my weakest read of the three. I have two others in mind as alternates for the third baddie but I want to see if either of them die tonight, thereby helping me along the way.

Original DDL case stuff, from what I can tell. Everything else spawned from these points.

It's not great, but... at least there's a case?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Feb 06, 2019 6:09 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Feb 06, 2019 6:01 pm This DDL lynch seems as 'easy' as every other lynch that's happened up till now. Sloonei's like, the only one trying to start up discussion and it's falling flat. Makes me nervous, like the flow of the thread is just gonna bury DDL and people are sitting back and letting it.

I’m like barely trying, and it’s only because I don’t know what’s going on.

Idunno man. I nudge the thread a little and it's like poking an obese one-eyed cat.

sabie12 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 06, 2019 6:51 pm Sorry I've been so not great this game. My depression has been very bad and I apologize for not being very involved.