This is, like, the opposite of what I saw last game.
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Ultra has hesitant to interact with the thread, which is why I voted him D1. He spoke mostly to Nova, who was answering whatever was thrown his way. Some weird dependent thing.Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 10:10 pmWhat did you see last game?speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 10:08 pmThis is, like, the opposite of what I saw last game.
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Would like to hear more about MafiaMenace in like 36 hoursMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 3:44 am So far I feel ok about speedchuck and ultra. Sloonei, nutella, Epi and MafiaMenace ping me. Sloonei mostly. He doesn't seem sincere but if I am right he'll tie himself in knots eventually so keep posting Sloo Sloo.
Because he already explained his nutella pingSloonei wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 9:57 amWhy not nutella?speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 9:53 amWould like to hear more about MafiaMenace in like 36 hoursMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 3:44 am So far I feel ok about speedchuck and ultra. Sloonei, nutella, Epi and MafiaMenace ping me. Sloonei mostly. He doesn't seem sincere but if I am right he'll tie himself in knots eventually so keep posting Sloo Sloo.
I don't agree with it. I don't suspect him for it.Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 9:59 amWhat did you think of it?speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 9:57 amBecause he already explained his nutella pingSloonei wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 9:57 amWhy not nutella?speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 9:53 amWould like to hear more about MafiaMenace in like 36 hoursMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 3:44 am So far I feel ok about speedchuck and ultra. Sloonei, nutella, Epi and MafiaMenace ping me. Sloonei mostly. He doesn't seem sincere but if I am right he'll tie himself in knots eventually so keep posting Sloo Sloo.
It depends.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 10:19 am Soupkill is not sufficient anticlaim btw unless it is in addition to the nk, not instead of.
Unless the goal is to only have one claim confirmed townie at a time.
maybe?Luxurious wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 4:17 pmI need a thonk emojinutella wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 4:16 pmWell yeah no I agree with you on that. Maybe this wasn't clear but I suspect him for focusing on mechanics as a reason in itself, not just because of specific things I saw as scummy. Even if I didn't have those little pings (which like you said are pretty circumstantial) I suspect him for the mechanics talk as a general trend.Luxurious wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 4:00 pmOkay then (a) why are you using ultra as a frame of reference for MM (b) that looks more like a tinfoil rather than a derp!town consideration (c) why doesnt he ask scum team for clarification regarding his kill instead of posting the numbers ittnutella wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 3:54 pm
The first one.
re: mm, I'll have to look back but (a) not being as worried about the cult as ultra was, and (b) miscounting the kpn (could be faked ignorance or could be that his understanding was skewed for some other reason). and (c) just more generally he seems quite focused on the scum team mechanics as a topic (not counting Vig/SK in kpn for instance)
Like i had a reason to view it as less town and figured we’d mindmeld on it but we didnt
Point is that it looks like words for the sake of words. Like he’s doing something rather than just twiddling thumbs
Like the thinking emoji but derpy
Are you still going on about this?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 5:44 pm And leaving the decision up to the scum is better than leaving it up to the host because the number of hosts who will modkill over that is too damn low.
But... you brought it up thoughSloonei wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 5:22 pmIt’s been a while since you did not suspect me heavily early in a game, as far as I can remember. I don’t think you can deny that a trend at least exists.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 5:20 pmSo you are saying I have never town read you?Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 4:33 pmYou've correctly tinfoiled me in World Flags and Ancient Greece. You've incorrectly Tinfoiled me in the four games I listed in the previous post, and now you're doing it again here. My point is that you tinfoil me in every game regardless of my alignment.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 4:30 pmI do not tinfoil you incorrectly in every game. I don't have a list but I assure you World Flags isn't the only time I have caught you. This is a hollow defence and had the added bonus of discrediting my hunches. All the new people are gonna think I'm a dumbass and ignore me now. I wanted them to like me Sloonanus but now they think I'm a joke and it's all cuz of you.
I don’t feel this is a very productive area of discussion, but if you have specific questions for me I can answer.
Now you tell me
Exactly. It's why we are unimpressed with your trying.Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 4:10 amI don't need to try to be impressive.Dragomir wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 3:57 amYou were trying to impress by going full analysis and surface level in-depth reasoning.Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 3:53 amWhat does this even mean?Dragomir wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 3:50 amYeah, I like this response very much. His entire iso was full tryhard.nutella wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 2:08 am ok, responding to sloonei's post in order
1) not sure what you mean about "downplaying pressure" in the first point. that's just how I felt about you at the time, don't overthink it
2) what? of all the posts in my iso to pick out, you pick a one-off acknowledgment of sprityo that didn't really mean anything. I'm not sure how you got the idea I was implying I suspected him or something, it was just a joke. Like yeah it was a little rib at the fact he hadn't produced much content yet but I think you're overthinking again.
3) I don't think they're lhf. I can see why you'd feel that way about MM, which was my weakest of those suspicions, but mata wasn't really. That was an original read and you better believe it. She's not "in the same category as sprityo" at all wtf that's absolute bull.
4) And how do you expect me to react to suspicion?
5) llama thing is dumb. I'm not scum and you can cross those buns and take them to the bakery.
6) I don't feel like I'm exaggerating your suspicion, that's how it feels to me. and sure I was townreading you until some others, mostly mac, put some pressure on you that I liked the sound of and I didn't AT ALL like how you reacted to that pressure. is there something wrong with my reads evolving due to developing thread content? you are pulling this out of your ass and you know it
Hypocrisy is a staple of the town playbook.Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 6:18 pm Then MafiaMenace suggests the possibility of another player being "deepwolf", and these are your words:You seemed to be accusing me of deepwolfing on Day 0, but then you cast doubt on MafiaMenace for suggesting the possibility of the same characteristics in a different player.
By that I mean you suspect me for doing something and then do the same thing so I’m not reading the rest of this
I think I did, way back on early D0. Ultra was completely different from his recent scumgame, and was really engaging the thread. Mac and nutella were also different, on a fundamental level, from what they had been.Cooler wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 10:27 amCan you explain your reads?speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 10:24 am Okay, I super townread Mac, Nutella, and Ultra coming into D0, and was wary of or lightly scumreading sloonei.
What's up? What's changed?
Almost none of Mac's reads are substantiated. It concerns me as well.
Jackspeedchuck wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 10:59 am Of the three people voting nutella right now, at least three of them are bad.
I've been here over two years, and played in a lot of games with you. AG is the only correct tunnel you can reference from those games? Weak.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 11:25 amHere’s the thing, too. When I tunnel as a civ (or even as a neutral or scum player in multiball) I’m generally right.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 10:04 am I've been getting civ vibes on Jack. I think a baddie would be trying harder to generate a lot of reads and stuff. He is super chill about the fact he's tunneling on nutella and doesn't care about her complaints of it. And Jack does tnnel as a civ. A lot.
I don't necessarily agree with his points though, but nutella is blank for me. Will take a while for me to figure her out.
See: Silver Lantern in Mass Effect, SenorSalt in BSG (MU), Fraggernaut in One Punch Mash (MU), Speedchuck in Ancient Greece, Rich in Restless Communication 2 (MU Discord).
I tunnel because I’m certain and I’m certain because I’m right.
You and I both know that isn't true.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 11:20 amAs long as she’s a viable lynch option.
You know how I love to bus.
Cool.Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 11:42 amBecause we just had a conversation about this last night. I want to see what be thinks.
"please give me player salad"Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 11:57 am Give me two players you’d lynch and a third you’d maybe lynch.
It's almost like every lynch in the game is a gamble.
I'm getting to that, there are like so many pages you moth-eaten lilacSloonei wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 12:57 pmAnd?speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 12:53 pm First page of Sloonei's ISO:
"Elaborate"
"Game rules"
"Why?"
"Game rules"
"Elaborate"
"Explain"
"Game rules"
"Single town ping statement"
"Elaborate"
"Why?"
"Elaborate"
Since when do you ever do that?nutella wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 1:32 pmWhy is this a big deal? I'm absolutely willing to pursue my suspicion of sloonei,but I also retain some wariness that I might be wrong. What's wrong with that?speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 1:16 pm I've mindmelded with nutella a lot, but I mesh with this current accusation of her as well. "It probably won't work" or "I might be wrong and it's a gamble that would hurt town" is a really off reason not to lynch someone.
Since when did nutella need to consider other opinions?
I'm trying to decide if this comes from a scum perspective in a multi-team game. Is this idea of 'eh, it's a gamble, not worth' influenced by the speaker having possible access to a nightkill?
In multi-ball, scum doesn't have to fake hunting. They also don't have to commit as hard to getting someone they suspect lynched, because hey, they can just nightkill them.Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 1:18 pmWhat did you guys mindmeld on?speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 1:16 pm I've mindmelded with nutella a lot, but I mesh with this current accusation of her as well. "It probably won't work" or "I might be wrong and it's a gamble that would hurt town" is a really off reason not to lynch someone.
Since when did nutella need to consider other opinions?
I'm trying to decide if this comes from a scum perspective in a multi-team game. Is this idea of 'eh, it's a gamble, not worth' influenced by the speaker having possible access to a nightkill?
Why does the it being a multi-ball affect what perspective she's in?
Because I post whatever I'm doing so that people can follow my train of thought.Ultra wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 1:43 pmWhy, exactly, did you feel the need to do this but also advertise it? I'm wondering why you don't have some tertiary impression from Sloonei just by reading the thread since he's the most present player. Why is your priority here to resolve him as opposed to literally anyone else unless you have a lead on him? Same thing with Nutella. Also remarkably little to say on either of them
Your presence seems lackluster compared to last game
Because you were the one scumread I had early on. Wanted to see if your ISO picked up at some point.
He's probably silenced. I've NEVER seen a JJJ with only one post.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 1:51 pm Jay probably mafia cause he’s not being very impactful.
Noted. I just don't think I can lynch him today though.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 1:55 pmAgreed but that doesn’t make him town because multiball.speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 1:53 pmHe's probably silenced. I've NEVER seen a JJJ with only one post.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 1:51 pm Jay probably mafia cause he’s not being very impactful.