The Syndicate

colonialbob wrote: ↑Tue Mar 20, 2018 8:48 pm Endgaming elsewhere, attention divided, sorry.

He's a picture of a cute little car as my way of apologizing.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Mar 22, 2018 5:53 pm

sprityo wrote: ↑Thu Mar 22, 2018 5:53 pm You guys are jumping on INH like the Dunk Squad, jesus

I can assume then that would have been the reaction if anyone else who wasn’t already voting Wilgy jumped on too?

which team do you think boomslang is on?

colonialbob wrote: ↑Thu Mar 22, 2018 6:01 pm

sprityo wrote: ↑Thu Mar 22, 2018 5:53 pm You guys are jumping on INH like the Dunk Squad, jesus

I can assume then that would have been the reaction if anyone else who wasn’t already voting Wilgy jumped on too?

If they voted for Wilgy while saying they thought he was town, maybe

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Fri Mar 23, 2018 7:47 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Fri Mar 23, 2018 6:55 pm This is feeling mean
I will be back to vote and
complete my ten posts

Second of all fuck whoever keeps doing this to SVS

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Mar 24, 2018 10:47 am

sprityo wrote: ↑Sat Mar 24, 2018 10:35 am Should i eat or naw?

Are you fasting?

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Mar 25, 2018 6:56 pm k

Well.

Rip speed. Guess it’s time to comb through your posts for your nuggets.

And hello role truther. I’m sorry you basically wasted your shot (if it’s only a one-shot) on speed. The circumstances were circumstantially unlucky, to say the least

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 26, 2018 6:46 am

sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Mar 25, 2018 10:18 pm Dragon D. Luffy can you give me that patented GMan vote flowchart you gave us in FE?

Maybe. Which day?

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Mar 26, 2018 7:29 pm Rob is right of course
civvies are kicking much ass
with me at the helm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 26, 2018 9:46 pm I won't object to a DH lynch, but it won't happen today.

How's that for vague?

insertnamehere wrote: ↑Mon Mar 26, 2018 11:51 pm Please allow me to have my S~V~S moment of Atticus Finch'ing Wilgy before he gets decisively sold down the river.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Mar 24, 2018 11:53 pm Hey why are we all on wilgy now? This thread seems just be barreling down the path of least resistance right now. I'm not saying that's necessarily a bad thing, but there's not a whole lot of critical discussion going on here. What's more fun and exciting than sound critical discussion?

This is the post that I keep coming back to. This here thread's hella flighty, going after, as Sloonei says, the path of least resistance.

That's because of a strange contradiction which is occupying this game. Despite having successfully killed multiple mafia members, no one's actually acting like they know what's going on. People aren't really extrapolating things from flips. Instead, we're going with gut reads and flights of fancy. Except, of course, when an act of bizzarity like the whole Speedchuck conundrum pops up, which, to be honest, would have gotten him lynched in whatever game it happened in.

It's hard to pinpoint the root cause of this passivity and confused malaise, *COUGH*CHICKACHIKAMECHANICS*COUGH* but we can see it displayed in full force with the case against the good honorable Doctor Wilgy, who, let's be honest, is definitely gonna be lynched today.

SYNDICATE CRIME STORY

THE PEOPLE VS. DOCTOR WILGY

1. "META"

Spacedaisy's argument which more or less kicked this whole thing off centered around her belief in a simple dichotomy between the good, civilian DrWilgy, and the evil, scummy Mr. Hyde DrWilgy. Good Wilgy is zany, irrelevant, and usually actively self-sabotaging. We've all seen DrWilgy in games before, acting like some kind of madman, randomly interjecting nonsensical asides into the thread. It's what he's known for. He's a successor to the previous King of Irreverence, @Vompatti. (RIP) That, according to Daisy, is the "civ" Wilgy.

Meanwhile, there ostensibly exists a second doppelganger-esque version of Wilgy which lies in wait, exhibiting such maniacal stratagems as "logic," and "effort" to stymy people into believing he's civilian, when really he's a dirty, rotten scummeister.

Basically, "weird" Wilgy = civ, and "intelligent" Wilgy = scum.

That's a pretty bullshit meta case, even by the low standards of meta cases. Assuming that this is true impugns the good Doctor's character. Who are we, who presume to know what lies in the mind of Wilgy? This is the Game of Champions, and despite a sluggish start, I'd expect everyone to bring their A-game. (Even though I myself have faltered at this due to hosting obligations.) It's a dumb, reductive, and certainly not flattering case that throws context out the window. Furthermore, and this is just my opinion, I'd rather play with a persuasive, involved, comprehensible version of Wilgy than the fountain of wackiness. Enthusiastically agreeing with this meta case seems like a way to message to Wilgy that he should be less involved in games, because people will just assume that he's, y'know, trying because he's bad, and not because he just enjoys playing.

Bleh.

2. "PREVIOUS ROLE"

As far as I can gather, and this has kinda been my pet theory from the start, roles don't actually come with a pre-defined alignment. S~V~S was the literal plague, and she's a strong civ read for me.

It seems to me that if you suspect Wilgy because of his previous role, you must also view everyone else through that lens. No cherrypicking who "it makes sense for." For me, that has too many repurcussions that contradict my views.

3. "THE SPRITYO KILL"

Really, Sloonei has been the only one beating this drum, and I have to give him credit for it. This reason's way stronger than the first two, mainly due to its reliance on facts.

FACT: Sprityo was killed Night 8 on the Pikachu Tribe after the wacky swap.

FACT: It must have been (at least) one of the following eight people - Sloonei, Kylemii, Spacedaisy, Scotty, DharmaHelper, Epignosis, Sprityo himself, or DrWilgy. (At least) one of those eight people is a moiderer.

This is where things get all subjective-y, but I've personally had more reason to suspect Daisy, Scotty, and DH than Wilgy. Interesting how they all seem to be funneling onto him today. I don't jive with Sloonei's POE reasoning, and if you suspect any of the other eight people, you don't either.

4. "DAMMIT, GOLDEN, YOU REALLY COULDN'T FIND A FRIGGIN' REPLACEMENT FOR THE GAME OF CHAMPIONS?"

This is the unescapable reality which will dictate why he'll probably be lynched today. DrWilgy has a ton of shit going on in his life currently, and cannot participate in the thread or lend to discussion very much. He popped back up during on March 21st, and has posted a couple of times since then, but overall does not seem to be stepping up his participation. Wilgy has gots to do what Wilgy has gots to do.

All that makes him an uber-easy target. No resistance, no pushback. All you have to do is sigh and go, "Wilgy, I guess," and everyone will nod their head in understanding. And that's why he's gonna be lynched today. Not because of any solid reasoning. Because he's the easiest option, the path of least resistance.

My fellow Champions, why must it be that way? Can we please all, including the poor old Doctor Wilgy, find in our hearts to try and do better than this?

Hell, lynch me for posting a large, rambling, nonsensical post passionately defending an inactive player without really providing a strong alternative! At least that's an actual reason for suspicion.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 27, 2018 9:18 am Alright, @sprityo let's do it.

G-Man's Technicolor Vote Analysis.

Day 10

Spoiler: show

DDL - Speed
DH - Speed
Epi - Bob
Sloonei - Wilgy
Scotty - Speed
Sig - Speed
INH - Speed
Speed - Speed
sprityo - Speed
Epi - Wilgy
Dom - Speed
Quin - Wilgy
DDL - Wilgy
DH - Wilgy
Lorab - Wilgy
Speed - Wilgy
Blooper - Wilgy
Kyle - Speed
DDL - Speed
SVS - Speed
DH - Speed
Bob - Speed
Boomslang - Wilgy

DDL
DH
Epi
Sloonei
Scotty
Sig
INH
Speed
sprityo
Epi
Dom
Quin
DDL
DH
Lorab
Speed
Blooper
Kyle
DDL
SV
DH
Bob
Boomslang

KEY

Speed - Green
Wilgy - Orange
Other - White

Eh I don't know what to conclude here. I like to do these things when we have a confirmed baddie among the most voted. Here we have a confirmed civ and an unknown.

You can see the wagons here, namely a Speed one, then the Wilgy one, then the new Speed one, but I'm afraid of calling anyone in them civ or bad based on it.

Any thoughts, sprityo?

colonialbob wrote: ↑Tue Mar 27, 2018 9:48 am

sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Mar 27, 2018 9:47 am

Spoiler: show

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 27, 2018 9:18 am Alright, @sprityo let's do it.

G-Man's Technicolor Vote Analysis.

Day 10

Spoiler: show

DDL - Speed
DH - Speed
Epi - Bob
Sloonei - Wilgy
Scotty - Speed
Sig - Speed
INH - Speed
Speed - Speed
sprityo - Speed
Epi - Wilgy
Dom - Speed
Quin - Wilgy
DDL - Wilgy
DH - Wilgy
Lorab - Wilgy
Speed - Wilgy
Blooper - Wilgy
Kyle - Speed
DDL - Speed
SVS - Speed
DH - Speed
Bob - Speed
Boomslang - Wilgy

DDL
DH
Epi
Sloonei
Scotty
Sig
INH
Speed
sprityo
Epi
Dom
Quin
DDL
DH
Lorab
Speed
Blooper
Kyle
DDL
SV
DH
Bob
Boomslang

KEY

Speed - Green
Wilgy - Orange
Other - White

Eh I don't know what to conclude here. I like to do these things when we have a confirmed baddie among the most voted. Here we have a confirmed civ and an unknown.

You can see the wagons here, namely a Speed one, then the Wilgy one, then the new Speed one, but I'm afraid of calling anyone in them civ or bad based on it.

Any thoughts, sprityo?

By the time the second group of players formed the trains were about tied. The only people to switch votes from Wilgy to speed were DH and DDL. I think if we poke around the second group of voters we might have something

Aren't you presupposing Wilgy's guilt here?

colonialbob wrote: ↑Tue Mar 27, 2018 2:21 pm

sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Mar 27, 2018 2:16 pm

colonialbob wrote: ↑Tue Mar 27, 2018 9:48 am

sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Mar 27, 2018 9:47 am

Spoiler: show

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 27, 2018 9:18 am Alright, @sprityo let's do it.

G-Man's Technicolor Vote Analysis.

Day 10

Spoiler: show

DDL - Speed
DH - Speed
Epi - Bob
Sloonei - Wilgy
Scotty - Speed
Sig - Speed
INH - Speed
Speed - Speed
sprityo - Speed
Epi - Wilgy
Dom - Speed
Quin - Wilgy
DDL - Wilgy
DH - Wilgy
Lorab - Wilgy
Speed - Wilgy
Blooper - Wilgy
Kyle - Speed
DDL - Speed
SVS - Speed
DH - Speed
Bob - Speed
Boomslang - Wilgy

DDL
DH
Epi
Sloonei
Scotty
Sig
INH
Speed
sprityo
Epi
Dom
Quin
DDL
DH
Lorab
Speed
Blooper
Kyle
DDL
SV
DH
Bob
Boomslang

KEY

Speed - Green
Wilgy - Orange
Other - White

Eh I don't know what to conclude here. I like to do these things when we have a confirmed baddie among the most voted. Here we have a confirmed civ and an unknown.

You can see the wagons here, namely a Speed one, then the Wilgy one, then the new Speed one, but I'm afraid of calling anyone in them civ or bad based on it.

Any thoughts, sprityo?

By the time the second group of players formed the trains were about tied. The only people to switch votes from Wilgy to speed were DH and DDL. I think if we poke around the second group of voters we might have something

Aren't you presupposing Wilgy's guilt here?

No? We know for sure Speedchuck was innocent, so for the people to break an almost tie it makes them look worse. And if Wilgy is bad, bonus points

But why? If Wilgy and Speed are both civ why do mafia care which one gets lynched? Or even beyond that, in this game one mafia team wouldn't care if another gets votes.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Mar 27, 2018 9:55 pm That's right.

I am after all

Spoiler: show

speedchuck's teammate.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Mar 28, 2018 6:13 pm It's Day 11. Most Mafia games are winding down or have ended by this point.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 28, 2018 11:47 am
No opinion right now on Epi, DDL, Quin & cbob.

I do not understand how one could have no opinion on four people at this stage.

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Mar 28, 2018 6:38 pm

It was an off day in space. Kylemii had been holding his volleyball when everyone moved to space, which everyone was thankful for. "Lets play space volleyball", said Scotty.

They all suited up and went out into the vacuum of space. They tethered the nets to two handy spacecraft that were moving at an identical vector and velocity, otherwise the game would have been ruined quite quickly.

Dom did a flip.

Nijuukyugou showed off her moonwalk.

It seemed as though DrWilgy was saying something. It's possible he was screaming. But in space, noone can hear you.

"This is not a rainbow list" wrote Epignosis on a pad he had in his hand, just in case anyone would read it. He wasn't really into volleyball at all.

Dr Wilgy started going blue. Later on they noticed somebody had disconnected his oxygen tank. No-one really minded, though - they knew that whoever had done it was simply exercising the collective will of the people.

Day 11 has ended. DrWilgy has been lynched. He was:

66: Dhalsim (Street Fighter II). Once in the game, you may teleport during the night phase, randomising all player targets for that night. You are MAFIA and a member of STREXCORP.

It is now night 11. It will last for 24 hours, meaning you have 22 hours to get your PMs in

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Wed Mar 28, 2018 7:05 pm Am I wrong or is only 1 of the permanently dead players a civ at this point?

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Mar 28, 2018 8:12 pm sprityo claimed that he had a cool role early on and it seemed a little jarring? i didn't really understand the benefit of making such a claim, he also seems to have had more of a thread presence back then. did he die? he's on a watch lost for the remainder of my excursion

colonialbob wrote: ↑Wed Mar 28, 2018 9:04 pm

sprityo wrote: ↑Wed Mar 28, 2018 8:48 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Mar 28, 2018 8:12 pm sprityo claimed that he had a cool role early on and it seemed a little jarring? i didn't really understand the benefit of making such a claim, he also seems to have had more of a thread presence back then. did he die? he's on a watch lost for the remainder of my excursion

youre right ive lost some of my bravado and vigor from the early game

Losing so many teammates got you down?

colonialbob wrote: ↑Wed Mar 28, 2018 9:37 pm

sprityo wrote: ↑Wed Mar 28, 2018 9:17 pm

colonialbob wrote: ↑Wed Mar 28, 2018 9:04 pm

sprityo wrote: ↑Wed Mar 28, 2018 8:48 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Mar 28, 2018 8:12 pm sprityo claimed that he had a cool role early on and it seemed a little jarring? i didn't really understand the benefit of making such a claim, he also seems to have had more of a thread presence back then. did he die? he's on a watch lost for the remainder of my excursion

youre right ive lost some of my bravado and vigor from the early game

Losing so many teammates got you down?

Yeah, you nailed it. Right on the head

Scumslip guys lets lynch Sprit next

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Mar 29, 2018 12:03 am

sprityo wrote: ↑Wed Mar 28, 2018 8:48 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Mar 28, 2018 8:12 pm sprityo claimed that he had a cool role early on and it seemed a little jarring? i didn't really understand the benefit of making such a claim, he also seems to have had more of a thread presence back then. did he die? he's on a watch lost for the remainder of my excursion

youre right ive lost some of my bravado and vigor from the early game

are you doing okay? are you alright

Dom wrote: ↑Thu Mar 29, 2018 12:41 am cerberus: which team would you think nju would be on if she is bad?

sprityo wrote: ↑Thu Mar 29, 2018 1:00 am Here's something i want to bring back up in recent light: we know LC was aware of Cerberus tribe. hence how we caught him slipping. So who from the cerberus tribe would fit the profile an evil even?

Nutella has died. She was:

86: Proton (Elemental) - You have BTSC with Electron. You will be sent a chat link for BTSC and must log in as "Proton". Each night, you will PM one element to the hosts (Air, Earth, Wind or Fire) and one player to be targeted for any effect the element may have. While Electron is in the game, they will also choose one element out of Air, Earth, Wind or Fire. When you and Electron are both in the game, your element choices will combine to form one effect. Your target will get the benefit of any positive effect, while Electrons target will suffer any negative effect. You may not choose the same pair of elements until each pair has been selected. If Electron dies before you, you may not select the same element on consecutive nights. You may not select the same target on consecutive nights. You will not be informed of the effects of your elements.

Night 1 has ended. Nijuukyugou has died. She was:

97: Electron (Elemental). You have BTSC with Proton. You will be sent a chat link for BTSC and must log in as "Electron". Each night, you will PM one element to the hosts (Air, Earth, Wind or Fire) and one player to be targeted for any effect the element may have. While Proton is in the game, they will also choose one element out of Air, Earth, Wind or Fire. When you and Proton are both in the game, your element choices will combine to form one effect. Proton's target will get the benefit of any positive effect, while your target will suffer any negative effect. You may not choose the same pair of elements until each pair has been selected. If Proton dies before you, you may not select the same element on consecutive nights. You may not select the same target on consecutive nights. You will not be informed of the effects of your elements.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Mar 29, 2018 1:07 am I'll ask this again: what evidence is there that the Evens kill on even nights and strex on odd?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Mar 29, 2018 12:19 pm who is everyon's preferred lynch for tomorrow?

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Mar 29, 2018 2:47 pm

nijuukyugou wrote: ↑Thu Mar 29, 2018 2:47 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Mar 29, 2018 12:39 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Mar 29, 2018 12:19 pm who is everyon's preferred lynch for tomorrow?

Sig, if he doesn’t come back and answer for that comment.

Nijuu possibly.

One of them should get lynched tomorrow IMO

Let's not do that k

colonialbob wrote: ↑Thu Mar 29, 2018 10:43 pm

sprityo wrote: ↑Thu Mar 29, 2018 10:28 pm I enjoy having nju having her role revealed and all, however I would’ve personally enjoyed cbob’s alignment much more

TOWN

There ya go buddy

Dom wrote: ↑Thu Mar 29, 2018 10:23 pm INH
Boomslang
Nju
colonialbob
Daisy
DDL

who is your biggest suspect and why?
who do you trust the most and why?

sprityo wrote: ↑Thu Mar 29, 2018 11:04 pm

Dom wrote: ↑Thu Mar 29, 2018 10:23 pm INH
Boomslang
Nju
colonialbob
Daisy
DDL

who is your biggest suspect and why?
who do you trust the most and why?

I think there’s small bits for most everyone on this list.

Nju obv just got the reveal, which would appear to be the same that revealed Speedchuck. But it would seem odd that it could happen more than once. I don’t have anything bad to say about daisy. DDL still holds a pretty town spot in my memory of the tribe.

INH would seem the worst with his worst left defense case

Ben Linus wrote: ↑Fri Mar 30, 2018 8:40 pm

nijuukyugou wrote: ↑Fri Mar 30, 2018 8:37 pmHi Ben?

Well, number 15, hello.