The Syndicate

Take a fuckin sip, babes. I’m here

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Wed Jun 20, 2018 8:51 am I think there have to be liars on this list.

Colin - Poll Predictor (gets extra vote)
Turnip Head - Indie Poll Predictor (wincon)
Golden - looks for Scotty
Scotty - doc
Epignosis - doc
MacDougall - doc
Quin - stump
Sig - lynch resetter (consensus scum?)
Insertnamehere - some kind of Indie

Am I missing anybody’s claim so far?

What in the fuck is this? What kind of madman has three doctors in a game?

So I’m placing into a guy with little content under heavy suspicion, God’s why do I hate myself.

Let me get something tangible for you monsters to consume

Linki: this is the beginning. Might you be referencing the future?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:44 am I think given Quin has apparently got some role that allows him to check if two players are aligned, and he saw fit to infodump it on day 2, that he is pretty confident it won't result in his demise which as per my reaction what Golden did confuses me greatly and makes me feel even more uninformed, but given one is the person day one me was most confident was bad and the other is the person day one me was most confident was town I'm going to be leaving my vote on sig all damn day and nobody is going to tell me otherwise.

starting at day 2, this is the first interesting thing ive seen, i want to follow up on this if it didnt get properly addressed.

sprityo wrote:Scientist: You may select two players. You will learn if the players are aligned or not

I had this role in Phenon but nachomamma sadly got killed before he could use it.

to follow up what i just posted, to toss in my two cents.

independents are basically guaranteed in this game, otherwise it wouldnt be fun. on top of that, it makes the Scientist role more reasonable if quin is as he says (or from what i've gathered mac had said just then) i havent gone back to see what quin ACTUALLY "claimed"

Quin wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:49 am woah woah woah who said anything about this being my role

i've already roleclaimed

Quin wrote: ↑Fri Jun 15, 2018 2:34 am
nutella wrote: ↑Fri Jun 15, 2018 2:33 am honestly i have no fuckin idea how cool the rest of the town's roles are comparatively but mine seems pretty damn cool so let me live a few days k
i'm a stump.
this is incidentally probably why nutella was vanished last night by the way

nevermind, now i am confusion

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 5:13 pm Sig - it wasn’t a message. Quin said he’s giving it a Quin 100% reliability.

I keep going back and forth on what I think about Colin. Today pings me all over again.

is this serious? if so how does that make it actually reliable?

coming back midway or so through day 2.

Epi is town, he's indecisive and changes is suspicions on a whim, i observed a good deal of it in Fire Emblem. He is right most of the time though in his suspicions, but he's best at defending himself.
Golden leans town for me with his interactions of sig, quin, mac, and INH. But it's more so just banter. than throwing down some "you're bad, fuck you"
i dont trust Quin (right now) in the slightest. A stump isnt activated by default from what ive seen. he's either lying out his ass or some convoluted shit is happening. on top of the "random PM" deal im still reading through. I hope it gets resolved
I keep seeing Colin pop in now and again. contributing somewhat.
Same with luna except it's nothing relevant, warrants an ISO once im done reading day2
if INH is not town, then when are we going to lynch him?
Mac is town but i dont know why yet.

i also group turniphead with luna in that they havent done anything worthy to not be lynched as far as ive read

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 7:02 pm
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 6:38 pm @speedchuck Can we consider the host posts as anything more than just flavor for flavor's sake? Or are they completely just flavor?
All topic flavor is for fun only and is written on the spot, with no regard to alignment or role flavor.

good it should ALWAYS be like that. that shit had me livid in fire emblem, where the flvaor actually indicated player's alingments

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 7:31 pm
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Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 7:24 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 7:23 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 7:20 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 7:17 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 7:16 pm about turnip head.....

i disagree with the concept of lynching him. In a game where we have limited methods of clearing people of being mafia, turnip head has provided one for himself, and lynching him takes that away for basically no reason. we lynch turnip head we learn nothing and he dies.

we let turnip head live until he can complete his publically known win condition which he claims he will vanish after completing, he vanishes as promised? cool. he won and we know he wasn't mafia so we can build assumptions off of that. alternatively, oh no? he's still here? he was lying the whole time? good lynch him, and now we know shit, and can build a better future because of it
We learn nothing if ANYONE dies. I don’t see how someone that is subtly hinting that they’re not town isn’t a worthy lynch candidate down the road
that's what I'm saying Scotty, we learn something if turnip head LIVES so why would it be a good idea to lynch him instead of seeing how his thing plays out?
We don’t know we will learn anything if he lives besides him just hanging around like that ex girlfriend that keeps coming back because she “needed some closure” and “still likes being around me”
Addendum: if he didn’t vanish, then we know he’s lying.

I see what you mean.

Got it.

*hails waitress*

Check please!

yesssss exactly.

if we lynch him early then we don't know what alignment he died with but if we let him achieve his stated wincon we'll know if he was lying.

if his wincon claim is a definite lie then we can comfortably lynch him based on that evidence, but if we lynch him before it can come to fruition then turnip head remains a mystery until the end.

This rationale makes sense and at the same time makes me uneasy. very uneasy. There's no definite that the future will be as predicted

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 20, 2018 3:43 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jun 20, 2018 2:40 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Wed Jun 20, 2018 2:23 pm
Lunalee wrote: ↑Wed Jun 20, 2018 11:01 am
Quin wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:27 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:18 pm Do we really think there are three town-aligned doctors in this game?
nah
This bothers me too. Wasn't it MacDougal, Scotty, and Epi? One of them may get my vote today.
It looks like Epignosis walked back his claim as trying to attract a night kill
I officially suspect Lunalee for that post. "One of them may get my vote today" is a way of leaving her options open without specifying a preference for any one of us.
I agree. Given what was presented about her and then her response. I don't feel good about Luna. I am considering moving my vote to her.

@Epignosis can I get your opinion on TH? I've probably read it at some point and just don't recall, but I'd like it now. How do you feel about this, let's wait and see what happens plan?

@sprityo I don't think the suspicion of Choutas is that heavy. I don't remember much at all about Choutas actually. Wait, you are replacing Choutas, right?

correct, i said "heavy" because as ive been reading from day2 it looks like everyone and their mom has choutas as a bottom 3 person

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:36 pm Mac and I are braintwinning right now, for real

this rubs me the wrong way

my gut has the rumblies

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 20, 2018 12:23 am The list of people actually applying rationalisation in this game is as short as Epi's penis.

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Jun 20, 2018 6:03 am A brief Luna/sig interactive iso. Luna has a total of 19 posts before Quin dropped his bombshell, including:

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Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:22 am @sig , what's with that "poker face" smiley you keep using?

Lunalee wrote: ↑Sat Jun 16, 2018 11:04 pm @sig , @Quin , if you're going to self-vote, at least give us a good reason to support you or not.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Sun Jun 17, 2018 3:20 pm
sig wrote: ↑Sun Jun 17, 2018 12:35 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Jun 17, 2018 12:33 pm Night is half over and I'm missing a loooooot of night actions.
Never submit night actions that's my policy. Why hide your actions? I never do I'll tell you straight up what I plan to do. Which is why a vote for sig is a vote for open night actions. No more hiding no more fear no more control. Vote Sig a player you can trust.
Sig, your campaigning is gold. I'm voting for you. I believe I can count on you to sign that Bill of Rights with the most beautiful signature

[VOTE: sig] aubergine

Lunalee wrote: ↑Sun Jun 17, 2018 11:08 pm Haha, bravo sig.

These quotes account for my 'gut feel' of luna being a teammate of sig. They have a 'team banter' vibe to them.

After Quin's bombshell, Luna's next two posts are:

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Lunalee wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 7:48 pm
Golden wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:45 pm
sig wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:40 pmEither way the idea of lynching me since I said I couldn't be lynched doesn't seem townie.
And this is complete bullshit

I called your bluff and now you're worried.

Glad I called it.

I think there's a decent chance you are a baddie who gains in power over time, and you're trying to delay being lynched for some reason. You've made claims of being indestructible and said you weren't worried about your campaign putting a target on your back for that reason. You said you weren't worried about being lynched because you won't be lynched. But I can smell the fear on your breath from here.
This is what I was thinking. It might be safest to lynch sig.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:11 pm Wait, why are you folks lynching sig? I need to catch up.
That's a very strange backtrack.

And then we get this progression:

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Lunalee wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 2:14 pm
sig wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:33 am
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MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:07 am Sig is your apparent inability to be lynched literally just today that it won't work?
Oh it'll work whenever I want, but it would be a waste for it to be used today. I won't have enough time in this timeline to make it worthwhile basically.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:12 pm
sig wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:09 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:06 pm Sig are you a civilian? Yes or no?

If you are a civilian what will be the outcome of lynching you today? Is the outcome positive or negative? Why?

If you are a civilian does your continued existence beyond day 3 reap any benefit to the civilian cause?

Yes

there's no outcome of lynching me today since it won't happen but if it did it would be negative since you'd loose a civ, but there wouldn't be some cataclysmic event

yes in the sense that I'd be here to post and engage. However, it's not like some role actives if I'm alive after day 3.

Also I think y'all might've read a little bit to deep into my d/n 1 posts.
So if we attempt to lynch you today, it just fails? Or it redirects? Does the second person get lynched instead? What do you expect the outcome to be? Just your continued existence and a fart video?

So you are saying that all of your role stops being relevant come day 3?

If you are a civilian then us wasting a lynch on you here is a bad idea. Given we have several other people who have role claimed, perhaps the civilian duty you have here is to actually just enlighten us as to what it is that you do?
1. Everything resets and I leave you all for a better land BUT I wouldn't have been lynched.

2. No my role is relevant until I use it

3. I told you I can't be lynched that's my role power.

IF you try you fail and the timeline will be disrupted resulting in chaos. Or that's the theory anyway.

Also just to be clear if you tried to lynhc me day 3 it would also fail, but it would've been the optimal time for me to active my power. Or that's what I thought at first.
I don't really want to lynch sig today. I didn't know quite what to think of his claims earlier, but now I feel like he's being genuine.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 2:16 pm Also, I thought it was basically confirmed that INH was third-party. Is that a problem for town? Why is he tied with sig? I feel like we can do better than this.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 2:22 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:35 pm Let's do something more fun.

sig and INH are Booker DeWitt and Comstock. That is to say, both have been swept away by the Luteces. They're not here.

Who gets your vote and why?
Yes, I want to step away from the sig and INH drama. I feel it is distracting us from actually getting a scum lynch. Didn't Quin start this whole thing? I don't know if I want to keep Quin around. I feel like he introduced a class-A distraction to get suspicions off of his team.
I think potentially the worst look in here is 'I feel like we can do better than this' when we've been presented with a potential 50/50 shot. What's the size of the team - 3 or 4? So you'd have no more than a 25% shot the rest of the time...

Then:

Lunalee wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 2:30 pm [VOTE: Quin] aubergine [citation]
and

Lunalee wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 3:52 pm I'm going to put my vote on INH because I don't like how defensive he got about his role. But that makes a tie between him and sig. Ugh.
It's worth noting that last post is AFTER sig triggered the event but before it took place.

Looking through Luna's iso as a whole, I tend to find that she is team compatible with sig, and that's where my vote is going for now.

[VOTE: Lunalee] aubergine

i have just witnessed a murder.

The backtrack is troublesome yes, but more so the indecisiveness without backing it up. Also the "i dont want to tie it up" looks fake as hell

[VOTE: Lunalee] aubergine

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Wed Jun 20, 2018 4:07 pm I mean when

tomorrow

Alright i think that's sufficient enough for me to get a grasp on the game in general, theres still a few people i dont have an opinion on yet

any deep personal questions for myself?

New Avatar to fit the theme of the game

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Wed Jun 20, 2018 4:28 pm I have a question for people who are pro-Turnip
Head: why?

why not

indi doesnt have to care who wins, as long as their wincon is met

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Jun 20, 2018 5:52 pm I will campaign to not see TH lynched today if need be. But I didn't really realise there was any threat of that, because I can't imagine any good reason to lynch him. All the facts suggest he is not mafia, to me. I have no interest in lynching an indy when the player numbers are so small and the indy is claiming he'll vanish anyway. This one I definitely would see as a waste of a lynch.

Why would you not let it play out and see if he is being honest? Like - if we lynch TH and prevent him winning by one day and go on to lose because we've wasted a lynch on this, I will riot.

There is absolutely nothing about TH's behaviour in the entire game that suggests any kind of agenda.

we just trust indy's now based on word alone?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jun 20, 2018 6:42 pm Hey guys I'm an independent doctor.

hey guys i have btsc with epi, he said "im gonna claim my real role"

we're eating corn flakes together

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Jun 20, 2018 6:47 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 20, 2018 6:42 pm
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 20, 2018 6:34 pm I disagree. My whole point is how very much I disagree.
Idgi
She is worried that TH is going to get some badass ability by surviving until tomorrow that will cause a big threat to us.

maybe it's a soup kill, that'd be great wouldnt it?

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Jun 20, 2018 6:49 pm PS sprit I'm glad you're back and playing AND appear to be having fun. That's good

hehe yeah

er.....

that's not a bad point actually

as great as the case is, i'd be fine with either or. TH is claiming 3P and that secures us one less infraction to worry about as town

sprityo wrote: ↑Wed Jun 20, 2018 6:51 pm er.....

that's not a bad point actually

as great as the case is, i'd be fine with either or. TH is claiming 3P and that secures us one less infraction to worry about as town

i was caught up in the granduer of golden's case

that also reminds me, are we just ignoring INH now orrr?

so that's it then? assume TH is working in the interest of town?

look dont let me say i told you so when he soup kills like three people at once

AKA, i think he's a good candidate for tomorrows lynch

Quin wrote: ↑Wed Jun 20, 2018 7:45 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Wed Jun 20, 2018 6:51 pm er.....

that's not a bad point actually

as great as the case is, i'd be fine with either or. TH is claiming 3P and that secures us one less infraction to worry about as town
I will never understand the "lynch all independents" mindset.

lets have a repeat of phenon where speedchuck kills 4 people, because he's an independent, but what do i know

Quin wrote: ↑Wed Jun 20, 2018 7:55 pm
Lunalee wrote: ↑Wed Jun 20, 2018 7:12 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Wed Jun 20, 2018 5:38 pm
Lunalee wrote: ↑Wed Jun 20, 2018 11:01 am
Quin wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:27 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:18 pm Do we really think there are three town-aligned doctors in this game?
nah
This bothers me too. Wasn't it MacDougal, Scotty, and Epi? One of them may get my vote today.
meh. they don't have to be bad.
So what's the point of claiming doctor then, unless it's a cover-up?
I could probably give you a list of 10 bullshit reasons but I'll sum it up to say that lying about a role-claim isn't necessarily a scum indicator.

Because, you see...

I'm not actually a stump.

wow, you really had me going there quin

sure had me fooled

100%

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Jun 20, 2018 9:49 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Wed Jun 20, 2018 9:42 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Wed Jun 20, 2018 7:45 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Wed Jun 20, 2018 6:51 pm er.....

that's not a bad point actually

as great as the case is, i'd be fine with either or. TH is claiming 3P and that secures us one less infraction to worry about as town
I will never understand the "lynch all independents" mindset.
lets have a repeat of phenon where speedchuck kills 4 people, because he's an independent, but what do i know
I mean, I could kill four people if you want

better idea, just give everyone a desperado gun

......i dont want to admit quin was right about anything so ill disregard that cop claim

eh whats a pip lagosi?

[mention]speedchuck[/mention] hey m8

choutas aint here

*returns with pizza to find the room on fire*

Let’s just as a whole take a step back, everyone voting, and say why we should vote for the person we are voting for.

This excludes Epi Mac and Golden

I want the other 12 or so players not having a fistfight to weigh in.

Personally I was thinking between Mac and Epi, leaning more so Epi because he has crazy plans that end up working in the town’s favor a decent chunk of the time? Any want to rebuttal me on that?

Mac on the other hand has seemed to be more stalwart, albeit an asshole so far this game in comparison to golden, who for me is in a cloud of fuckshit that blurs how I should be able to properly judge him

[mention]MacDougall[/mention] you brought up items being specific to people. I personally don’t see this item as something that would interact with my flavor in the slightest

Unless each item has a single use purpose (like in phenon) then I’m not sure I’d even want it anyways.

I don’t see anything about items on the first posts so correct me if I’m wrong, but having an item would make you a target would it not?

I don’t trust sig in the slightest.

A one shot vanish for a phase is more likely a mafia mechanic than not. The only odd part is that it was day activatable so that’s my only stigma on it.

Daisy do you have any opinion over Scotty?
Golden, does your role give any indication that Scotty would be town? I don’t know the relation to him you have but I would question anything the host hadn’t explicitly stated simply

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:24 am Sprityo is bad because he called me an asshole discuss

I was simply quoting you from earlier mac

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Jun 22, 2018 8:24 pm I'm a doctor.

here we go again

Golden can you simply put to me how you and scotty can both be town?

like i was reading what you were telling kyle but im unable to get a wrap around it

is it coming down to that if a role was made for another, why make them different alignments? as a host i would honestly think that's the absolute worst mechanic to have, especially if i allow open role claiming. i would at least make sure that there we some consequences to claiming outside of the mafia being able to pick and choose semi-randomly.

I dont trust Sig, but his presence at least is better for gamesolving than Lapluie. I want to see him turn this whole kerfuffle around.

Plus i mean, >33 posts. come on fam it's the heat of the game now, gotta stepp it up

[VOTE: Lapluie] aubergine

(im also fine voting TH because yknow, he's an untrustworthy independent)

linki: so like one of those if you find the person you gain btsc type of deals?

then you have btsc now because youve known about scotty for a few days right?

to answer your question, masons are fine, especially variants of masons.

like one is bad one is good, a mason that can recruit is mason buddy on night one. roles that tie themselves to another like Lover, or Seamstress.

what im getting at is like do you have in writing from the host, that you can trust scotty 100%?

like even in FE Mafia, epi questioned me basically until he died because he couldnt confirm if i was bad or not. (we were both town in the end) buthe would tell me frequently how he feels alright about my allegiance because the the chatroom setting we had

linki: that you know his role or role flavor?

does anyone see my rationale or am i preaching to the choir?

Golden wrote: ↑Fri Jun 22, 2018 8:49 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Jun 22, 2018 8:43 pmlinki: that you know his role or role flavor?
Like sprit everyone is asking the same questions over and over.

WE ARE A PAIR.

That's the answer to your question. I am 100% certain he is town.

that's not what i asked. why dont you just answer what you quoted directly?

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:23 pm All right, who just gave me something?

i remembered reading this and wanted to ask about it

Golden wrote: ↑Fri Jun 22, 2018 9:23 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Jun 22, 2018 9:22 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:23 pm All right, who just gave me something?
i remembered reading this and wanted to ask about it
There's a gift giver out there.

REALLY? I would never have guessed

Golden wrote: ↑Fri Jun 22, 2018 9:49 pm From those I would rank form most to least likely town

Epi
Sprit
Lapluie
Colin

oh? you would put colin below lap even though lap has little next to nothing content?

Colin has at the least put out a small synopsis of what he considers each person.

Why is Epi on that list and not Daisy, from your personal standpoint?

Golden wrote: ↑Fri Jun 22, 2018 10:58 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jun 22, 2018 10:56 pm Tell me again why sprityo is a civ?
I won't have time to do much of anything in the way of analysis this phase, but both sprit and colin could use some.

I'm not sure much will be gotten out of lapluie.

I’ll be sure to get it to you when I can bossman

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Jun 23, 2018 3:07 pm inh is not on the poll

have..... have you not been paying attention????

speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri Jun 22, 2018 12:09 am
EVENT: HOST REWIND!

bnhjbdsbfisdhfiushdifuhsdiu837924981-------------------- DAY 3 START!

"Huh?" the time tour guide says. "Didn't we have 12 in here?"

INSERTNAMEHERE has ALSO VANISHED! Day continues as normal!~

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