The Syndicate

sig wrote: ↑Fri Dec 07, 2018 1:33 pm Also if anyone runs Into me on the map please direct me accordingly, since based off my real life army map skills I'll probably be horribly lost and to busy complaining to unlose myself

What are you? A lieutenant?

My land nav skills are amazing, tsk tsk

If anyone bothered to google what verisimilitude means, you’d see it’s the better option

[VOTE: verisimilitude] aubergine

LoRab wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 8:27 am OK....I got wifi on the plane...

Can I suggest that we change the vote word from aubergine to something that is not one of the role names? I mean, if the point is to be easily searched, then it seems to me it would make it easier if it were a word that isn't likely to come up. Also, lol to the hosts for putting that in there.

@LC @BR: Is the difference in the map from earlier to current based on a host correction, or based on night 0 activity?

The only difference I noticed was the trees/forest are more pronounced

Lunalee wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 9:29 pm @S~V~S I just added Space Force to my signature as well.

you didn’t add that civilian loss in Dethys game tho

Coming from experience, i think sloonei looks town. I drilled a hole into him for his weird wording and actions in megaman, and we were both town.

I'm more interested in the fact DDL still isnt the main topic of discussion with 3 votes on him

ebwop: coliniscool

juliets wrote: ↑Sun Dec 09, 2018 8:37 pm Hmmm...sloonei I think said "take a look at sprityo" and I just did. This is his only post of any consequence:

sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Dec 09, 2018 9:34 am Coming from experience, i think sloonei looks town. I drilled a hole into him for his weird wording and actions in megaman, and we were both town. I'm more interested in the fact DDL still isnt the main topic of discussion with 3 votes on him
(he corrected DDL to Colin in his next post)

I don't disagree with his post but it's the only thing he's said that's relevant on day 1 (day 0 he gave us the definition of verisimilitude) and he only has 6 posts in all. This makes me nervous, it makes me think of a Day 1 lay-low baddie. I don't think it's enough to change my vote though. @sprityo if you come online could you give us some game related thoughts? Who are you going to vote for and why?

Probably no one, because I haven’t invested myself yet

Don’t get me wrong, this setup looks great, but I’ll be in the back seat putting lollipops in people’s hair until I think feel like doing otherwise

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sun Dec 09, 2018 10:23 pm I'd rather lynch sprityo, he's low-key lurkin

I’m high key lurking you incessant ape

How about you say something that’s new?

That was rude of me TH

I just felt like being nasty.

But yeah for real have you not noticed this is how I play now

(There’s an implied “I’m sorry in there” too)

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Dec 09, 2018 11:05 pm @sprityo you got any lukewarm takes from the backseat while you're with us?

Not a clue my dude

9pm EST I believe

Sniped by the fat man

Hey gang, as a but if something I noticed

Lycantha is the most important role we have as town because it allows us to identify killers, but more importantly it can probably see dead player’s TRUE IDENTITY

aka the counter role to Trickster. If you see the part of “May find other information”

That’s all I wanted to say

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Dec 11, 2018 1:49 am
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 5:02 pm
Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 3:28 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 2:49 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 2:40 pm Anyway I've ranked the people who have currently voted from most to least suspicious as of me typing this post without being linkied into any other votes:

Cbob - "His posting" is a funny but ultimately hollow and wormy way to explain the Colin vote
Colin - "No U" vote was cheeky but still bad.
Chuck - Did not give a reason for his DDL vote which IIRC came close to if not directly after Epi said he'd be voting DDL. Chuck pulling up to the train station early AF to save himself a seat.
Sloonei - Voting for anyone based on other people's reasons for suspecting people is suspicious to me. Make your own points. Stand on your own ground.
TH - Early vote for Sorsha for a hollow, funny reason. Doesn't look serious. Sorsha's not done anything overtly suspicious. Could be buddying/distancing but not worth losing my shit over instantly.
Epi - His DDL vote makes sense, he gave a good reason and was consistent.

I read this the first time but it's not exactly meaty by your standards. Why requote it?
Added Colin.
Single in thread interaction between the King and Prince of Chaos Mafia. Pfft as if. Mafia teammates for sure. DharmaHelper please just lynch yourself.

Can I be the jester of chaos

Hey Sloonei I meant to ask yesterday, but

What did you see from up there?

So I didn’t read into TH being bad or really read at all, but could someone clear out the possibility for me that TH wasn’t forged into being the trickster upon death?

I never trust flavor posts out of habit (speedchuck and I probably share this) this is a role that can make anyone else they kill reveal as something else. It’s not like I can ask long con “did the trickster for real for real die?”

Linki: very well, I’ll keep that in mind sloon

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Dec 11, 2018 2:26 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Dec 11, 2018 2:20 pm Hey Sloonei I meant to ask yesterday, but

What did you see from up there?
Idk what you’re talking about, but might I recommend reading the five ISOs I posted to start the day?

I’ll see if there’s anything I want to read

I discuss what I personally deem interesting/important.

Point 1 being I made this role concept the trickster is based off of. And I have most definitely seen it used to make a town flip as mafia looking (@ quin)

Point 2: mechanically speaking the mafia would make the town less on guard, which would further present itself as a problem later on in the game. If the trickster is still alive and can forge roles, the mafia could fake even more kills and possibly their own deaths again.

The only true way to lie detect someone who is now dead is having a mortician or someone to confirm the dead’s identity, aka what I pointed out with lycantha

Until they find TH’s body we won’t be 100% sure that we actually was the trickster

colonialbob wrote: ↑Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:16 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Dec 11, 2018 2:44 pm I discuss what I personally deem interesting/important.

Point 1 being I made this role concept the trickster is based off of. And I have most definitely seen it used to make a town flip as mafia looking (@ quin)

Point 2: mechanically speaking the mafia would make the town less on guard, which would further present itself as a problem later on in the game. If the trickster is still alive and can forge roles, the mafia could fake even more kills and possibly their own deaths again.

The only true way to lie detect someone who is now dead is having a mortician or someone to confirm the dead’s identity, aka what I pointed out with lycantha

Until they find TH’s body we won’t be 100% sure that we actually was the trickster
What is the desired outcome of discussing this for civs?

Awareness, information to keep in mind

That’s all. I can’t be every player in the game so I have to make sure everyone can at least consider and dismiss or approve of information I think is relevant

colonialbob wrote: ↑Tue Dec 11, 2018 5:34 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:28 pm
colonialbob wrote: ↑Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:16 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Dec 11, 2018 2:44 pm I discuss what I personally deem interesting/important.

Point 1 being I made this role concept the trickster is based off of. And I have most definitely seen it used to make a town flip as mafia looking (@ quin)

Point 2: mechanically speaking the mafia would make the town less on guard, which would further present itself as a problem later on in the game. If the trickster is still alive and can forge roles, the mafia could fake even more kills and possibly their own deaths again.

The only true way to lie detect someone who is now dead is having a mortician or someone to confirm the dead’s identity, aka what I pointed out with lycantha

Until they find TH’s body we won’t be 100% sure that we actually was the trickster
What is the desired outcome of discussing this for civs?
Awareness, information to keep in mind

That’s all. I can’t be every player in the game so I have to make sure everyone can at least consider and dismiss or approve of information I think is relevant
How does knowing this information change the way civs should act, in your opinion?

it's not meant to change the way they act directly. i just said it's information to keep in mind. especially cause the statement to consider is laden with WIFOM

[VOTE: sabie12] aubergine

A hunch, i want to pursue later.

sabie12 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:13 am
sprityo wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 4:03 am [VOTE: sabie12] aubergine

A hunch, i want to pursue later.
So as of right now I am the only person spirityo has accused the entire game. I don't even see a vote from them in the first lynch poll. They haven't even really shared any thoughts on anyone yet. I'm all for speculating about gameplay and roles and everything because I also do that but usually by this point in the game some of the speculation is regarding players and reads on players. Just find that interesting.

I am still not convinced wilgy isnt bad. Unless he just really doesn't care about this game at all he didn't even put up any defense about being accused or voted for. And he still really hasn't been around. It also now seems like maybe TH was defending him.

I was just speculating if TH was the trickster could he have killed nutella and someone killed him. I dont know if that really impacts anything but it would be an interesting turn of events if it did happen that way.

Can someone condense the argument on g man so I can get a better idea of where that is coming from? I didnt really get much from trying to read him before.

I know I haven't posted much there is a lot to follow and I get busy with work and things. I've been keeping up best I can though at least with reading everything.

That’s a uh. Big reaction for such a little post

S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:41 am ebwop, also, that little mean post you made to TH that you took 2 posts to apologize for,

sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Dec 09, 2018 10:41 pm
Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sun Dec 09, 2018 10:23 pm I'd rather lynch sprityo, he's low-key lurkin
I’m high key lurking you incessant ape

How about you say something that’s new?
I know someone up there ^^ connected you to TH other ways, based on the EOD. But this is just some really nice distancing imo. I like the cut of your jib. Sorrowfully, I think it's an evil jib in this game.

I missed you SVS I really do. But you jump to conclusions way too fast

juliets wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 8:04 am
sabie12 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:13 am
sprityo wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 4:03 am [VOTE: sabie12] aubergine

A hunch, i want to pursue later.
So as of right now I am the only person spirityo has accused the entire game. I don't even see a vote from them in the first lynch poll. They haven't even really shared any thoughts on anyone yet. I'm all for speculating about gameplay and roles and everything because I also do that but usually by this point in the game some of the speculation is regarding players and reads on players. Just find that interesting.

re is a lot to follow and I get busy with work and things. I've been keeping up best I can though at least with reading everything.
sabie, I have seen the same as you out of sprityo and was looking at him yesterday for his lack of relevant participation.

@sprityo I really need to see some reads with reasons from you today, and I agree with S~V~S, why not tell us what you see about sabie12 now. You feel strongly enough to vote for her so that tells me you have defined something about her play that is problematic.

It’s less about play and more about information I’ve received

Would you trust a crazy old woman living in the woods Juliet’s?

Simply put I have solid grounds to believe Sabie is aligned with mafia based off a my interactions on the map

Know it’s funny how I got my throat jumped down THE INSTANT I try to vote. Am I THAT easy of a target for mislynch?

More so how SVS quoted my smartass interaction with TH. I was thinking “wow some idiot is gonna look back at this later and assume it’s distancing or some bullshit” whenever I was reading DH’s interaction post that labeled me green

I don’t really have a choice if I’m wrong now do I? In any case yes I’m fine with that, I don’t think my information is likely wrong, especially with how it specifically mentions Sabie

juliets wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:14 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:01 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 8:04 am
sabie12 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:13 am
sprityo wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 4:03 am [VOTE: sabie12] aubergine

A hunch, i want to pursue later.
So as of right now I am the only person spirityo has accused the entire game. I don't even see a vote from them in the first lynch poll. They haven't even really shared any thoughts on anyone yet. I'm all for speculating about gameplay and roles and everything because I also do that but usually by this point in the game some of the speculation is regarding players and reads on players. Just find that interesting.

re is a lot to follow and I get busy with work and things. I've been keeping up best I can though at least with reading everything.
sabie, I have seen the same as you out of sprityo and was looking at him yesterday for his lack of relevant participation.

@sprityo I really need to see some reads with reasons from you today, and I agree with S~V~S, why not tell us what you see about sabie12 now. You feel strongly enough to vote for her so that tells me you have defined something about her play that is problematic.
It’s less about play and more about information I’ve received

Would you trust a crazy old woman living in the woods Juliet’s?
ok, so you've received info about sabie. Is that information something you can share? I don''t understand your question about trusting a crazy old woman living in the woods, could you explain further? Also, what are some other reads you have that might be based on play? I'm trying to see how and what you're thinking to assess whether I think you're town or not.

linki

Uhhhhhh, let me check with LC

In short from what I’ve already told you, I’ve described exactly how I’ve come upon this information if you didn’t gather that from the context clues

Linki: SVS you’re not the crazy old lady lol I’m taking about someone else

Let it be noted, most things I say that aren’t an implicit joke have meanings behind them

Typically literal too.

But enough about me and my information on Sabie. Believe it or don’t, I can’t tell you anymore about it until LC gets back to me. Please continue whatever else was going on before then

juliets wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:24 pm @sprityo what about some other reads? not on sable but on others? Who are you seeing as bad? Who are you seeing as good?

I might as well be dabrusti from how blind I am

But he’s dead

I’m still paying the least bit of attention to the thread to be honest

I’m like playing my own game out here it feels like

I’m hoping that after tonight everything will be made clear as far as moving the game forward

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:49 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 4:03 am [VOTE: sabie12] aubergine

A hunch, i want to pursue later.
sprityo wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:03 pm Simply put I have solid grounds to believe Sabie is aligned with mafia based off a my interactions on the map
Why did it turn from "a hunch" to "solid grounds" based on map information? if you're allowed to say

I like to take my pants off slowly

Another way to see it sloondawg is that I was met with an odd pushback and had to up the ante. But you don’t show your full hand until you need to yeah?

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 4:01 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 4:00 pm Hey folks! It's been a fun game to spectate so far. I would like to request that everyone please do your best to avoid terms in contexts that have a high probability of being interpreted as a personal attack (e.g. stupid or idiot). I realize that isn't always easy to foresee, so just use your judgment. Keep at it; it's been a clean game.
You got it dummy.

Who hired this guy? I’m leaving a bad review on yelp

Im back and here to tell you more of my time visiting this old lady in the woods

I asked this, Woman in the woods about "any shady, evil, scary characters" that had passed by lately.

To which she replied that she "saw sabie12 with a jagged blade with her." followed by if i "understood that innuendo" and gave me a wink.

To anyone still stumped, she has essentially told me that sabie12 is a member of the jagged blade. Who we know is one of the mafia teams

Same thing ain’t it?

I don’t take it as literal because she followed up with saying it’s an innuendo

Im willing to bet my theory is correct. Trusting strange old women in the woods sounds sound to me

In any case, it’s been made known what I know. So either Sabie gets lynched or the other mafia team or any of the other killing roles hunt her down

You’re saying you suspect someone near you is mafia then?

Which I guess is implying you know who’s near you?

I agree with you Mac, SVS is starting to rub me the wrong way

Also who cares about info drops??? What good does it do me to withhold that information? Talking about it later like “oh yeah I saw colonel mustard in the dining hall with the candlestick” isn’t gonna help us 3 days from now

I see a lot of complaining that I got lucky to get information, sorry to dissapoint everyone with being different and letting you know something helpful I guess

Enrique wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 7:42 pm
Trickster - Has an aura of three squares, within which any info that is given or received will be corrupted in the Trickster’s favour. When the Trickster kills, that kill can be forged. When the Trickster enters BTSC, it may be under any name.
There's also this.

You support my first theory then of trickster faking their own death?

Enrique wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 7:49 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 7:47 pm
Enrique wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 7:42 pm
Trickster - Has an aura of three squares, within which any info that is given or received will be corrupted in the Trickster’s favour. When the Trickster kills, that kill can be forged. When the Trickster enters BTSC, it may be under any name.
There's also this.
You support my first theory then of trickster faking their own death?
I mean I don't think it's impossible but I'm not endorsing it here. Was the Trickster dead by the time you met that lady?

Supposedly yes

This event happened during Day2

LoRab wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 8:03 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 7:23 pm I agree with you Mac, SVS is starting to rub me the wrong way

Also who cares about info drops??? What good does it do me to withhold that information? Talking about it later like “oh yeah I saw colonel mustard in the dining hall with the candlestick” isn’t gonna help us 3 days from now
As has been said, it's a difference in culture. Some of us come from a culture where info dumping is either explicitly not allowed in games, or is generally considered bad form. So, even when we aceept that it is part of this culture, we still don't necessarily like it.

sprityo wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 7:45 pm I see a lot of complaining that I got lucky to get information, sorry to dissapoint everyone with being different and letting you know something helpful I guess
As I asked above, do you know anything about the source of this information? Is the woman a force for good? Does her information come from hosts or from another player? Does she always tell the truth?

And why are you interpreting as necessarily being that sabie is bad, as opposed to sabie is physically adjacent to someone bad?

This woman is described as “mad” and this is what you would call an NPC, so it’s not from any other player

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