The Syndicate

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2019 10:11 pm Isn't a soup kill like an ultra/omega kill? Like unstoppable?

yes

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2019 10:18 pm Sprityo, I've missed you. We have not played together in awhile.

we'll see how long it takes for me to die. I plan on supah-towning this one

also jack, nice FATE avatar

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2019 10:33 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2019 10:19 pm also jack, nice FATE avatar
Thank you. I'm trying to strongarm Speedchuck into watching it.

ive never seen it, i just recently played FATE GO

i wouldve said that you're technically safe if only one person claims a role, but mafia has unlimited soup kills so nvm.

if they only had one then we could have more leeway in the role claim department

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2019 3:08 am I was promised a supatown Sprityo. I have not received one.

Hold your horses. Er...stallion.

I’m not exactly the guns blazing type unless I have hard info.

Asking me to supahtown day one is like saying epignosis isn’t a manipulating mastermind

juliets wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2019 11:51 am
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2019 3:08 am I was promised a supatown Sprityo. I have not received one.
ikr? Two mechanics posts, two off topic posts, and the one that says he's going to supatown. However, the last time we lynched him for non-contributing we were wrong so I'm leaning toward giving him a little more time.

In fact you guys are always wrong when I’m lynched for not contributing

*sips tea*

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 11:39 am I like the idea of using the clown and the oracle as pseudo flips for at least one player. Plus, it will inform the oracle when the clown dies. Telling the mafia who the cop peak was is a teenie tiny downside that I don’t really care about.

Both the clown and the oracle should target Epi because Epi needs a pie to the face.

we also want to limit role talk because giving the mafia any indication you are what role is suicide for the whole town

that includes speculation on dead player's roles

so my three town rn are

Epi - being wacky is something i come to expect of town epi
Mac - brick judged him to be worth saving over luna
Nova - vocal, i like what he says. that and he has butt stallion

sorry i didnt do much yesterday, been distracted between work and finally having free time in the evenings

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:54 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:50 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 11:39 am I like the idea of using the clown and the oracle as pseudo flips for at least one player. Plus, it will inform the oracle when the clown dies. Telling the mafia who the cop peak was is a teenie tiny downside that I don’t really care about.

Both the clown and the oracle should target Epi because Epi needs a pie to the face.
we also want to limit role talk because giving the mafia any indication you are what role is suicide for the whole town

that includes speculation on dead player's roles
This sure sounds like what a Mafia would say if Lunalee was Mafia.

me warning jack, to not talk roles because there's a soup kill. yeah mac, good one

i mean it's a general notice not directly at jack per say.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:54 pm Like, how do we handle lynches if we can’t see any flips? Have we talked about that? What’s the leading thought there?

you use voting patterns and thread talk to determine it. not a hard concept. You could start by looking into why mac was saved over luna yesterday if you really wanted

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 5:56 pm It's complicated

i wish to see where this goes

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:59 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:57 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:54 pm Like, how do we handle lynches if we can’t see any flips? Have we talked about that? What’s the leading thought there?
you use voting patterns and thread talk to determine it. not a hard concept. You could start by looking into why mac was saved over luna yesterday if you really wanted
How was he saved over Luna? Both didn't get majority on them.

no i mean why brick chose him over luna because it's obvious that we didnt have majority

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:06 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:03 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:59 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:57 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:54 pm Like, how do we handle lynches if we can’t see any flips? Have we talked about that? What’s the leading thought there?
you use voting patterns and thread talk to determine it. not a hard concept. You could start by looking into why mac was saved over luna yesterday if you really wanted
How was he saved over Luna? Both didn't get majority on them.
no i mean why brick chose him over luna because it's obvious that we didnt have majority
Yeah I know that, but you proposed to Sloonei to start with that when he was talking about the lack of flips in regards to team compatibility analysis and whatnot.

Brick choosing to kill Luna over Mac doesn't speak to that.

i thought he was asking more where to start playing

the setup has no flips so it's a crap shoot until we get to mylo/lylo or we kill/lynch all the mafia

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:31 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:54 pm
Epi - being wacky is something i come to expect of town epi
What have I done that is wacky?

sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:54 pm Mac - brick judged him to be worth saving over luna
Why should I care what brick thinks because of a tie / no-lynch? A decision had to be made. That doesn't make Mac a lock for civilian life.

You bad.

I didn’t say lock

And i didn’t ask for your opinion

sabie12 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:28 pm Mac is suspicious of me for literally no reason other than that I found him sketchy and voted him last time. Or hes just bad and wants to get rid of me so I won't keep suspecting him. Spirityo didnt have anything better so he followed macs vote on me.
If it's because I haven't been here I've been going through some things irl.
Also welcome to the game sloonei.

I will have to read more when I have time.

“It’s conplicated” - Mac

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:28 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:08 pm Not a fan of Muu's talk about night kill analysis just after Juliets dying. Feels pre-emptive. The vig point is moot since there could have been no vig shot on N1 all things considered.
There literally couldn’t have been a vig kill. I have a light townread on Muu for not reading the role list. Mafia powers are centered around town roles and I think they’d be very aware of them.

Not reading the role list is ignorance which is easily feignable

I think your slight town read is poop, jack

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:37 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:35 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:31 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:54 pm
Epi - being wacky is something i come to expect of town epi
What have I done that is wacky?

sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:54 pm Mac - brick judged him to be worth saving over luna
Why should I care what brick thinks because of a tie / no-lynch? A decision had to be made. That doesn't make Mac a lock for civilian life.

You bad.
I didn’t say lock

And i didn’t ask for your opinion
Does Epi’s opinion have no value to you?

Well since my WiFi went out I lost my response

Basically epi shouldn’t do his “reword this to get under your skin” thing he likes to do with mac

If he wanted to ask why I think the brick lynch choice is something to look at then he should say so instead of being a prickly ass about it

Y’all gotta stop putting words in my mouth, The only thing allowed in there is food, water, and my opinions

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:29 pm At a certain point in this game, anybody who holds information is going to need to assess whether it’s more valuable to share or keep it secret.

Idk what else to say on this matter.

Okay so basically under other circumstances, we could have one person claim, like epi who insisted he’s the pope, and will be fine cause that’s a max 2 kills if mafia get lucky.

However mafia have unlimited soup kills so basically it’s not worth it to claim unless it’s damning evidence

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:20 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:44 pm Y’all gotta stop putting words in my mouth, The only thing allowed in there is food, water, and my opinions
You opened that up to too many bad jokes.

God please nominate it for quote of the year. I’m desperate

Yeah let me openly rubs nuts with epi out in public. That’ll show how scummy I am. @ nova

Also I’m kinda dumb, but all I got from mac was “let me make a big deal about a hunch I have, woe is me” I increasingly regret my statement of saying mac is someone I could see town

Aside from the pity party does anyone object macs statement or are we gonna collectively not care enough to speak against it and let it happen?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:27 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:26 pm Yeah let me openly rubs nuts with epi out in public. That’ll show how scummy I am. @ nova

Also I’m kinda dumb, but all I got from mac was “let me make a big deal about a hunch I have, woe is me” I increasingly regret my statement of saying mac is someone I could see town
What ... the fuck

Mission accomplished boys, let’s bring ‘er home

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:28 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:28 pm Aside from the pity party does anyone object macs statement or are we gonna collectively not care enough to speak against it and let it happen?
What pity party?

The one of you crying about being soup killed

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:21 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:19 pm
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:18 pm Sloonei could also be compatible withluna, since Muriel was absent.
Lol what?
Mac has revealed Luna was a witch. So now we can look at who Luna is compatible with. Muriel was replaced by Sloonei because Muriel was absent. With no interaction to judge from Alina could conceivably had been teammates with Muriel/Sloonei.

Unless I’m mixed up bad missing something I thought this was straightforward. Am I confused?

I wanted to say, it’s impossible within the roles list mac would know for certain Luna is scum

sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:31 pm
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:21 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:19 pm
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:18 pm Sloonei could also be compatible withluna, since Muriel was absent.
Lol what?
Mac has revealed Luna was a witch. So now we can look at who Luna is compatible with. Muriel was replaced by Sloonei because Muriel was absent. With no interaction to judge from Alina could conceivably had been teammates with Muriel/Sloonei.

Unless I’m mixed up bad missing something I thought this was straightforward. Am I confused?
I wanted to say, it’s impossible within the roles list mac would know for certain Luna is scum

I mean unless mac is making the biggest gambit of his life

Sounds like the easiest fake claim to be made

The easiest way around it simple, we can follow mac on his hunch. And if the vig activates ktonight that means that Luna was a civ and we lynched another civ today.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:35 pm I'm inclined to believe Mac 100% and here's why:

Mafia on this site are weak at lying. They are weak at coming forward with a bold claim and getting everyone to follow without worrying that someone is going to catch them. If Mac is bad, I'd let him win solely because he went against that trend.

This is true and I hate how right you are...

No one and I mean No One is ballsy enough to fake claim something so relevant on the entire site

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:36 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:35 pm The easiest way around it simple, we can follow mac on his hunch. And if the vig activates ktonight that means that Luna was a civ and we lynched another civ today.
Brick doesn't count as a mislynch.

Oh. Right

Well I’m just flailing now so I’ll retreat to my conspiracy hole

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:38 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:37 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:36 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:35 pm The easiest way around it simple, we can follow mac on his hunch. And if the vig activates ktonight that means that Luna was a civ and we lynched another civ today.
Brick doesn't count as a mislynch.
Oh. Right

Well I’m just flailing now so I’ll retreat to my conspiracy hole

I got my eyes on you, don’t try any funny shit cause I’ll take us both out

What was your reason for voting Sabie again?

[mention]speedchuck[/mention]

eh?

saw that one coming

hi nutella

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 14, 2019 7:53 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Apr 14, 2019 7:26 pm saw that one coming

hi nutella
I didn’t, why did you expect that?

he had the double vote, why would you not kill the guy with the double vote?

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Apr 14, 2019 7:53 pm poe

jackofhearts
neverwhere
spacedaisy

eh?

sure
idk
no

my poe pool for mafia is

nutella
muugen
sloonei

with jack floating in the radius around it but i havent made a decision to put him in the pool yet

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Apr 14, 2019 10:43 pm I am going to do interaction analysis for Lunalee teammates now that I am at keyboard. I am gonna start with jack and then go from a to z after that.

i look forward to this, as long as it wont take "5 minutes" like last time

i believe mac, i dont see a reason for him to fake claim, no one is gonna counterclaim him cause mafia aren't that ballsy

between nutella, muugen, and sloonei there is little to nothing usable as far as game content so either they cough up something tangible or theyre getting chopped

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 14, 2019 11:36 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Apr 14, 2019 11:31 pm Probably Sloonei
Who would you go for after me?

Muugen:mafia:

interesting

[mention]Spacedaisy[/mention]
[mention]muugen[/mention]
[mention]nutella[/mention]
[mention]Neverwhere[/mention]

It’d do you good to vote

Kudos to sloonei for using his role effectively

Well done sir

I think tonight will be a decisive night in terms of how the game will flow

Quick thing for anyone still doubting mac’s claim: (which if you are like ???????) At least one mafia has to be dead or else we would get some kind of MYLO/LYLO message in some form or another. And effectively lose the entire game next day phase

That being said too, Mafia have a guaranteed kill and a possible kill out of someone else if they guess correctly.

Killing Mac then incorrectly guessing would oust them though so they’d have to risk forfeiting their night kill if they wanted to anonymously soup and get 2 kills out of it.

So what I want now is from [mention]MacDougall[/mention] some legacy reads since I don’t see you being around much longer if the mafia are smart

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