The Syndicate

hiii

town once again. never maf. livin the good life

noooo! please dont go over the cap!!! i dont want u to get modkilled

in the sign up thread it says it gets lifted 1 hour before eod but it doesnt say this in this thread so i dunno

i think therefore i am

im innocent town thats all i know

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:32 pm Pretty fucked up that I went to the trouble to get into this game with tutuu just to have her roll scum.

[VOTE: tutuu] aubergine

WOW WTF

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:33 pm There is only one serious philosophical problem, and that is why I don’t have a girlfriend.

thats an axiom. it doesnt need explanation but apart from that WTF ALISON

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:35 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:33 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:32 pm Pretty fucked up that I went to the trouble to get into this game with tutuu just to have her roll scum.

[VOTE: tutuu] aubergine

WOW WTF

Town tutuu D0: is excited to play the game, tells all the people she likes to play with how much she wants to play with them, pre-emptively townreads people based on town and/or enthusiasm so she can start forming a towncore of people she trusts.

Scum tutuu D0: I'm TOWN everyone. I'm innocent TOWN. Have I mentioned I'm TOWN?

well i wasnt like jumping up and down but i was lowkey pleasant sensation from seeing i rolled town and then i tried to talk to ppl but they were all friends in between themselves and they were talking to each other and i didnt know how to interject without being too awkward so i just said the stuff i said in case someone wanted to maybe start a conversation with me or something

also u've never seen me scum

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:36 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:34 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:33 pm There is only one serious philosophical problem, and that is why I don’t have a girlfriend.

thats an axiom. it doesnt need explanation but apart from that WTF ALISON

Well, I for one would appreciate an explanation

axiom - a statement or proposition which is regarded as being established, accepted, or self-evidently true

SORRY

even with the post cap?

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:41 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:38 pm well i wasnt like jumping up and down but i was lowkey pleasant sensation from seeing i rolled town and then i tried to talk to ppl but they were all friends in between themselves and they were talking to each other and i didnt know how to interject without being too awkward so i just said the stuff i said in case someone wanted to maybe start a conversation with me or something

Let's have a conversation, then. How did you feel when you got your scum role card from the host? Also what do you think about your teammates? Do you think you'll work well with them, or is bussing on your mind already?

SHUT UP ALISON

im about to watch this movie u recommended btw. kung fu hustle. u said its very funny

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:44 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:39 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:36 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:34 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:33 pm There is only one serious philosophical problem, and that is why I don’t have a girlfriend.

thats an axiom. it doesnt need explanation but apart from that WTF ALISON

Well, I for one would appreciate an explanation

axiom - a statement or proposition which is regarded as being established, accepted, or self-evidently true

SORRY

Yeah I know what an axiom is, just making a joke

yea i didnt think that u didnt i was also trying to continue onto my joke sorry

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:44 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:42 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:41 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:38 pm well i wasnt like jumping up and down but i was lowkey pleasant sensation from seeing i rolled town and then i tried to talk to ppl but they were all friends in between themselves and they were talking to each other and i didnt know how to interject without being too awkward so i just said the stuff i said in case someone wanted to maybe start a conversation with me or something

Let's have a conversation, then. How did you feel when you got your scum role card from the host? Also what do you think about your teammates? Do you think you'll work well with them, or is bussing on your mind already?

SHUT UP ALISON

im about to watch this movie u recommended btw. kung fu hustle. u said its very funny

Kung Fu Hustle is pretty great. It's like three times as funny if you understand Cantonese though, since the dialogue is way funnier unsubtitled. But a lot of the comedy moments in the movie just speak for themselves.

now that i have taken you away from your mood of trying to pressure me to see how i'd react and i made u remember the pleasant sensation u got from laughing at ur favorite movie u should associate these pleasant feelings with me and townread me

ok let me check to make sure

ok i just checked to make sure; still town

iaafr wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:58 pm i just reread the entire thread and wow im actually pretty scummy wonder how many people are scumreading me

actually i disagree? i thought u were kinda towny

why did u scumread yourself? i wanna argue your read on yourself

my head is already spinning. i disagree with so much posts made posted itt already i dont even know where to begin lol

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Alison wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 10:08 pm Now to decide if "esoteric reasoning" is short for "I want to defend my scum buddy" or "I know tutuu is town because I have TMI". It's probably the latter and calling us V/V is just a pocket attempt.

are u saying this to get the ball rolling or is this genuine town alison? cuz i know that u like being serious or at least u come off often like that, and admittedly i dont know u that well yet but im puzzled as to why u just "reveal ur cards" like that? like, if u wanted to do what u said in this post, why wouldnt u question iaafr so u can then decide based off of his answer? why are u telling him pre-emptively what are u planning to do?


i am also very puzzled at iaafr scumcasing his own post. i thought he's towny and its kinda funny how hard he tried to scumcase himself

and finally im puzzled at benson's post calling my post scummy. maybe im biased cuz i know im town but from my pov i was just being real, and i ended my post with a slight joke "i wanna argue your read on yourself" like i just tought it sounded cute

Benson wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 10:16 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 10:10 pm

Benson wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 10:08 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 10:06 pm

iaafr wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:58 pm i just reread the entire thread and wow im actually pretty scummy wonder how many people are scumreading me

actually i disagree? i thought u were kinda towny

why did u scumread yourself? i wanna argue your read on yourself

WAIT

OK, this might be wolfy.

I'm interested. Why is it wolfy?

I don't know if wanting to disagree and saying he's been towny feels natural. Like what was even towny anyways? Idk, that's obviously not a compelling argument.
But it's always easier for wolves to just pop-in to express disagreement in places where they *know* they are correct. You know?

maybe it didnt feel natural to u shrug. im town and wat i did was natural. wolves do TMI townies as town, yes, but townies do also express townreads on ppl too

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 10:26 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 10:12 pm my head is already spinning. i disagree with so much posts made posted itt already i dont even know where to begin lol

Wew wolfy post

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its not!

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re: alison yes i understand that but i just thought it didnt make much sense to me to pre-emptively reveal your thoughts to someone you're trying to interrogate. id peronsally keep that to myself but i guess thats ujst me and i have no reason to believe this is scummy for u

re: benson i thought he was just free-flowy and trying to start conversations and stuff like that. he made the first post that broke the tone of the game from chit-chat to a serious post when he asked tims2upnothing about something that i forgot what was it but i remember thinking that i didnt think iaafr was interested the answer but he just asked to get the ball rolling at least thats the impressino i got but i didnt imemdiately say itt that i find it towny cuz i wasnt that confident but now i feel kinda cornered to say this?

edit linki (alisons's last post) i kinda agree that i also feel a bit sketched out. he could be town and that could just be humor but idk

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yes tim, lol

benson as i said part of my intention when making that post was trying to be cute/funny. i wanted an excuse to say "i wanna argue your read on yourself". and the budget "read" was genuine just like everything else ive been saying this game cuz im town

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tr on tim, i think its towny that he spent a post saying "wait did X rly do Y?" instead of taking 5 secs to scroll back and see for it himself. and im kinda feeling like he still didnt bother going back to look for it, he just assumed what im saying is true and went along with it and made a joke

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if ur saying my read is pushing it / outlandish, from my pov, its not any less outlandish / reachy than ur read on me

26/30

oh alright, im sorry. i thought that u were voicing disagreement and i got into a defensive mode. tbf nutella also said i had a scummy post so that contributed to my knee jerk reaction being defensive but sorry

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proto, here is my answer to your post

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SHUT UP ALISON is definitely not angry. please consider that ur lowkey a boomer-kun and like we kinda talked about it in space invaders how some jokes and things like that u perceive as overly serious?

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tr on proto, i think he believes the stuff he believes. (u can call this sort of a meta read). if ur unsatisfied with this explanation u can ask me for further stuff to say

i have 2 choices for alison. 1) tr her for her enthusiasm to try to catch me scum or 2) scumread her if i put the bar a little higher and expect her to not make overly wrong reads on me. and i think her second post saying "town tutuu does X and scum tutuu does Y" was silly considering the game was like 30-40 posts in none of my friends had even posted by that point AND also the fact that she has never seen me play mafia so idk how could she say with confidence what would maf tutuu do. Despite her being wrong on both of these stuff gth i still wanna call her town. perhaps part of ot could be rock-paper-scissors fallacy (i just invented this fallacy). basically rock paper scissors is down to luck, but also not. so in this context i think that if alison rolled mafia against me this game and she saw that i was town, i think her approach wouldnt be to start by making an illogical push on me (this is the rock paper scissors). so she can b lean town

i also slightly wanna tr nanook primarily cuz he called me town and i liked it.

i read ur stuff about tim, amy, and respectfully i will disagree, ive never played with him b4 but i still think i saw a town posting town stuff, so

Reads:
tutuu
proto

tim
alison

nanook

rest

30/30

MR towny for his last post imo. also seems like i agree with nanook on a lot so that adds some reinforcement

iaafr wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 8:21 pm clarifying that the first post was a meme (and therefore invalid reason to sus) is a bit on the flatly defensive side; that sort of sus couldve been handled in a lot more playful manner (this point might be the weakest).

i mean, in my personal opinion this is a reach. i saw it as clarification for the sake of clarification, ive flatly clarified a bunch of stuff already this game i feel like (and reminder im town) altho maybe they werent flat and i just cant accurately recognize how i come off as but. mm. idk, like, ... nvm actually u do say it yourself that this point might be weakest

i like the person with the whale avatar. was it benson? i like alison's tr on him alot.

looks like im in the minority but i kind of dislike nutella? (in the sense of not townreading her obviously!). i think that shes hard to read, finding her as town in pyre mafia wasnt easy, a lot of ppl were scumreading her but i managed to do it. and in this game i feel like if she's town it's ... even harder to find her? and everyone townreading her is just making me paused. am i in the wrong here to perceive nutella this way, or am i not? that is the question

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iaafr wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 8:57 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 8:56 pm Okay, so didn't overestimate the Master Radishes. Will keep in mind.

Feelies on Alison and Tutuu based on their initial clash being too attention grabby to be w/w, and Tutuu's reaction being too calm to be a wolf randomly tunneled by a villager friend.

Any thoughts here?

my townread on tutuu is essentially for depth and transparency of thoughts that felt genuine and idiosyncratic

my townlean on alison is because i also thought tutuu gave mild scum vibes early and alison's readiness to jump on her susses and get into the game immediately is towny in my book

curious what u perceive as idiosyncratic :P cuz like from my pov everything i do is completely normal and makes sense but i know that everyone is biased to think that for themselves!

that post limit tony posted ... nvm i figured it out

im digging tim's posts alot. not in the sense of townyness like i already decide he's town for that one silly reason earlier, but like i just read them and nod along as im reading them

also do wanna note that in my opinion scirrus can come off as a lynch bait so do be careful with that would be my advise

iaafr despite being the top poster i cant comfortably settle on a read on him yet. thats probably ok. maybe im not supposed to force myself to read everyone so soon? better be an accurate sniper rifle than a machine gun that just sprays and prays imo

tutuu
proto
alison
timsup2nothing
beluga whale

nanook
masterRadishes

rest

(i just realized i gave 6 reads right after saying i wanna value accuracy over volume LOL. well i guess ... that i dont feel like im throwing darts by making these townreads)

right, also, no opinion on amy. again i hate the concept of scumreads and putting pressure, it doesnt work in my mind. if i find her as town i will speak up. otherwise i will forever remain silent

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actually i will go against what i just said

i think amy is towny for her latest post and im gonna [VOTE: iaafr] aubergine

3/60

disregard everything i said. an AWP cant kill the mafia fast enough. iaafr and nutella are both mafia. give me 10 seconds and i will find the other 2

4/60

i have never ever ever ever guessed the scum team correctly on day 1, or well at least, not in a game this large. let me try

nutella + iaafr + colin + colonialbob

what a nice use of my post

5/60

i really desire to play mafia and to get in the thick of things and u know accusations throwing around AtE OMGUS lamist wifom all of those flying over my head like a bar brawl and suddenly there's a gangster right who shoots up the bar with a tommy gun but instead of bullet it flies tunneling, fake claiming, tmi, all those good stuff

whats the hold up lets brawl already please. iaafr obv mafia. nutella obv mafia. tutuu town. proto town. alison town. tim town. beluga whale town. nanook town. radish town. amy town.

anyone who disagrees with me is confirmed member of the mafia

anyone who agrees with me and has a gun please use it to shoot someone in our poe which we all reached a consensus on based off of our town core

6/60

omg i just read wat u said about me amy and it legit made me feel good irl omg ily

im not even gonna read the rest cuz who cares about mafia. omg u made me feel nice. omg omg.

7/60

gun to head i want to call scirrus scum for this catch up post but then i looked closely under his avatar and i just saw it says "Scirrus" underneath so that makes me think that i should reverse my feelings, call him town, and i might be correct

8/60

i think amy has a lot of respect for tim as a mafia player which would explain her calling my townread on him bad (which i dont even see how can a read be bad unless its trolling. its either wrong or right imo) but yea, i think this respect is making her paranoid and thats why shes voting him. i legit tr amy btw, and i still tr tim. i think both town.

idk i just desired to armchair psychologize (how tf do u verb that? psychologize. psychology-size? psychoanalyze PSYCHOANALYZE thats the word). armchair psychoanalyze what is going on, so there u go

btw tim, pls trust me when i say we can add proto to the towncore. pls trust. im not 100% confident on my other town reads but mafia is a team game, and trusting your townreads to correctly townread other ppl is, like, amazing. please trust me proto town. we are like a packet. me and him. if u tr me u need to tr him. 2-for-1 deal

9/60

also i thoguht KZA had a non-maf/maf post with iaafr (when he said he's annoyed at him scumcasing himself). i think that was too brazen to post as maf/maf. let iaafr have a taste of his own pre-flip association medicine

god im so fucking towny. especially my 2 last post just reek of townyness. reek is a bad word actually, whats the word for pleasant smell? pleasant aroma of full lock town innocent child. subjectively im obv town. objectively im obv town. factually speaking, not up to debate, pure axiom, i am the most towny town this game and i am dying n1 based off of purely how god damn fucking TOWNY i am. if u disagree ur mafia

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nutella wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 10:26 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 10:12 pm my head is already spinning. i disagree with so much posts made posted itt already i dont even know where to begin lol

Wew wolfy post

please explain yourself, member of the mafia

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no u

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Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 10:57 pm

Scirrus wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 10:46 pmI don't really like that you backtracked from going "that sounds useless" right to ""it could be productive! I'm in" right when rabbit questioned you if i'm being honest

If you're being honest? Is that going to be an issue for you in this game?

lets see if i finally understood how to read long con. dont think ive ever read him right.

i think this "gotcha" post is town. ill be honest, im heavily biased to tunnel my early gut townreads and never reevaluate so idk if i can claim in good-faith that i will ever re-evaluate Long Con from this moment on (not trolling btw. sorry thats just how i am. maybe confessing of ur sins is the first step). but yeah. UNLESS he's maf/maf with Scirrus. yeah. ok. long town is con unelss maf/maf with scirrus.

also, i love you very much, alison.

tutuu -
proto - town cuz of thinking me saying SHUT UP ALISON was actually rude and thinking it was maf/maf theatre
alison - town cuz rock-paper-scissor fallacy
amy - town cuz of the erect finger tell (im stealing this from dizzy. its basically when u raise ur finger at someone and b like "OH HELL NAW")
beluga whale - town cuz lonely
long con - town cuz i just said why
timsup2nothing - town cuz i like his posts. also i had 1 very intelligent reason listed on day 0
master radishes - town cuz of the "oh do me do me!" gif. like, excitement at seeing how ppl would read him. curiosity. town shit
nanook - town cuz he called me town and maybe correctly townread radish
scirrus - towny cuz hes scummy
KZA - town cuz had a non-maf/maf post with iaafr
colin -
colonialbob -
dizzy -
werewolfhunter -
iaafr - maf cuz voting a villager
nutella - maf cuz just throwing shade and being impossible to townread in my subjective and personal opinion

13/60

edit linki: awp is that sniper from counterstrike, beluga whale

also (to asnwer ur q) i guess my emotions arent set in stone i just felt the mood to change my "persona" u could say idk. from my pov it all makes sense and its normal. maybe its not like that from an outside pov idk

my read on proto is based off of meta. like 99% of it, tim. thats why im so confident and desire to get sheeped for THAT particular read, at least.

if your townread on iaafr is based off of meta / you have some strong feelings that you cant verbalize, sure. i am going to unvote iaafr and vote nutella. but please make sure your read is right. if ur wrong we wont play this little game in future games and naturally if im wrong i wont ever suggest u extend this trust towards me either.

uh actually i dont want to make you waste one of your posts just to confirm that u wish for me to indeed unvote iaafr. ill just assume that is what u want.

i will be honest that u are not from my top townreads. in fact there are like 4-5 ppl i townread more than you, LOL. but, i do think that its nice of u to roleplay masons with me, so sure.

lets watch our backs in this bar brawl, but from time to time throw each other split second squints of suspicioun.

[VOTE: nutella] aubergine

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nutella wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:43 pm already tinfoiling tutuu again rip

interesting. its like i poked u with a stick and u reacted

[VOTE: iaafr] aubergine

nutella is my top town. (now say something)

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:44 pm the strength of her insistence on the proto meta read is rubbing me the wrong way, maybe it's too easy to call it tmi but it does kinda remind me of how i sometimes whiteknight townies as scum

wrong. wrong. wrong. logical fallacy for at least 50 reasons.

its a scumtell if proto was under pressure. he is not.

i was joking long con

im still voting nutella iaafr i just pretended to vote u

the list that i posted on the prev page is ordered tim

proto is town, beluga whale, cuz he thought i was maf/maf theathre with alison cuz i said SHUT UP ALISON. he is like that cuz he, like, idk how to say it. like he takes stuff overly-serious. like he often doesnt grasp when ppl are lying / saying stuff in jest. and the me + alison stuff in particular is due to our meta. like. uh. space invaders and shit. like his brain is hard to get into it but i believe ive finally managed to unlock his door. dude i cant explain it. thats why i said meta. it was a buzzword for "pls dont ask me"

iaafr wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:06 am @tutuu

could you try to work outside of me/nutella? i really legitimately think it's wrong and you're wasting your time if town. even if you think im wrong and lying (im not) its gotta be a useful thought experiment. i have no other restrictions, just outside of me/nutella. (though i know we're pretty much waiting on people to post)

i mean im not tunneling u, as u can see im not actively quoting all of ur posts and saying SCUMMY POST, i am interacting with literally everyone, and im still in the process of attaining more and more townreads

if u define this as me tunneling then idk how u define me not tunneling

if it bothers u that im calling u scum and voting u i wont call u and nutella scum until 6 hours before eod and then i will reinstate my judgement

otherwise i dont have anything to say. i feel like im being ate'd