The Syndicate

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 8:21 pm Should Porscha and Sloonei claim?

-t

Maf can presumably soup during day since that's since rust and kate died so I'm hesitant but I would be willing to share a tidbit more than I have

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 8:14 pm I will take it for granted Rondo was not doing some awful fancy play, and he told the truth, and therefore Sloonei is town.

Mafia in PC, Porscha and Golden.

:/ and here I am tr'ing both

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 8:07 pm WHY IS PORSCHA FUCKING ALIVE

WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON IN THIS FUCKING GAME

-T

Why wouldnt I be lol

Er no there is 20 mins? Sorry I'm driving back home and going in and out of time zones

Quick question. Isnt day supposed to be... over?

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 7:17 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 7:15 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 7:13 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 8:07 pm Scotty ( 6 ): EnderWiggin, Golden, Dyslexicon, S~V~S, RondoDimBuckle, falcon45ca
S~V~S ( 6 ): Scotty, sig, Neon, Party Crasher, Sloonei, Guillotine
Golden ( 1 ): DrWilgy
not voting ( 1 ): porscha
Dyslexicon:Voters: Guillotine, RondoDimBuckle, S~V~S, EnderWiggin
SVS: Porscha, Party Crasher, Dyslexicon, Sloonei, Golden

Ok looking at the scotty voters: Ender + SVS and Golden + Dyslexicon
Looking at the SVS Voters PC + Sloonie, Guillotine is just town to me

its honestly unlikely that both wolves would be on the same wagon so its one in

PC / Sloonie = pc
Ender / SVS = svs
Golden / Dizzy = Dizzy

So porscha is just being an ass and its PC/Dizzy
Bro how am I being an ass about anything...
You said something false, I pointed it out to you and you decided instead of agreeing you said something false to undermine me by trying to meme at me

I was clearly agreeing with you that I was incorrect but found it very funny to use the exact same gif as pc because I am also trying to not get hemorrhoids from this situation

Look by all means svs could be a harmless 3p and we are missing out on the wolf who has soup but without enough information we have no better option than to flip anyone who isnt town and that's the argument I have made and will continue to make

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 7:18 pm
Party Crasher wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 7:17 pm If you guys chop Dizzy instead of SVS here and he's town this game will go down in the annals of mafia history

-t
tutuu you haev been wrong on me all game so forgive me if I dont have confidence in your reads

And why would you not vote svs here

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 7:19 pm Isn't it 100% confirmed that SVS is not town? Didn't we confirm this yesterday, and then flash wagon onto an unsuspecting townie?

Yes and it was very disappointing and I'm very upset I didnt get my vote in on time to prevent that

FYI mafia breaks ties so whoever was around at eod likely made the choice for scotty to go over svs (could have been svs idk)

Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 7:14 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 7:13 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 7:10 pm Let's vote on my scum partner to spook town and make them second guess themselves.
Svs claims 3p
Do you believe dizzy is also 3p
Or do you think svs will flip wolf if dizzy is wolf

Either way your vote needs to be on svs and not defending it calling it wifom partner vote
SvS gotta be scum as the entire 3P faction is dead, is it not? Didnt Mod Squad die?

Sure. Svs might flip mafia. So why defend the maybe 3p/maybe mafia by calling svs vote partner wifom
Svs HAS to be resolved today it doesnt matter what she does or does not do
If it ends the game then it wont have been wifom. I'd like that speculation to wait until next game day if there even is one

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 7:15 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 7:11 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 7:08 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 7:06 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 7:05 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 7:02 pm Rondo, dizzy had already stopped being in thread well before you arrived
Screenshot 2023-03-03 100435.png

catagorically false

ok I am not on 2 of Porscha / Dizzy / PC

Unfortunately Dizzy who Ender is voting is the most town of the bunch. So I have a 66% chance of being correct
Wild that you still cannot come around to the idea that I'm categorically out of my wolf range
What have I done since mac convinced you I was town??
I need you to find me here i cannot have you struggling so hard here there needs to be some cohesiveness between town and I really want to believe you are town even though I worry you arent. So let me help you
meming at me when I scum read you is not the way to go

I enjoy humor, you cant / wont take that away from me, and I've spent all fucking day already trying to retort your reasons for SR'ing me that you frequently ignored AND I have been posting constantly trying to work out the game and my own poe, so I'd like to politely request you take a deep breath before you get some hemorrhoids and leave me out of the stress you're clearly under

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 7:13 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 8:07 pm Scotty ( 6 ): EnderWiggin, Golden, Dyslexicon, S~V~S, RondoDimBuckle, falcon45ca
S~V~S ( 6 ): Scotty, sig, Neon, Party Crasher, Sloonei, Guillotine
Golden ( 1 ): DrWilgy
not voting ( 1 ): porscha
Dyslexicon:Voters: Guillotine, RondoDimBuckle, S~V~S, EnderWiggin
SVS: Porscha, Party Crasher, Dyslexicon, Sloonei, Golden

Ok looking at the scotty voters: Ender + SVS and Golden + Dyslexicon
Looking at the SVS Voters PC + Sloonie, Guillotine is just town to me

its honestly unlikely that both wolves would be on the same wagon so its one in

PC / Sloonie = pc
Ender / SVS = svs
Golden / Dizzy = Dizzy

So porscha is just being an ass and its PC/Dizzy

Bro how am I being an ass about anything...

Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 7:10 pm Let's vote on my scum partner to spook town and make them second guess themselves.

Svs claims 3p
Do you believe dizzy is also 3p
Or do you think svs will flip wolf if dizzy is wolf

Either way your vote needs to be on svs and not defending it calling it wifom partner vote

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 7:08 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 7:06 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 7:05 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 7:02 pm Rondo, dizzy had already stopped being in thread well before you arrived
Screenshot 2023-03-03 100435.png

catagorically false

ok I am not on 2 of Porscha / Dizzy / PC

Unfortunately Dizzy who Ender is voting is the most town of the bunch. So I have a 66% chance of being correct

Wild that you still cannot come around to the idea that I'm categorically out of my wolf range
What have I done since mac convinced you I was town??
I need you to find me here i cannot have you struggling so hard here there needs to be some cohesiveness between town and I really want to believe you are town even though I worry you arent. So let me help you

S~V~S wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 7:06 pm I'm sad you guys, no one @'ed me at all today.

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 6:49 pm I am already getting nervous by wagons being 5-3, with SVS being able to make them 5-4

Can we please not?

-t
Ok, thanks for the tip! [VOTE: Dizzy] aubergine

I am pleased to see you guys are at least trying to find someone not 3P. Although tbh, I would have voted for anyone to potentially save myself. Although i really can't win at this point, so whatever.

Bruh anyone not on svs wagon needs to get on it PROMPTLY

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 7:05 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 7:02 pm Rondo, dizzy had already stopped being in thread well before you arrived
Screenshot 2023-03-03 100435.png

catagorically false

There is too much information we do *not* have and you can use this to either
1) play it safe. Eliminate the 1 person we know for sure is not town
2) risk voting an unconfirmed individual because you're more certain svs is less dangerous than the unknown

I personally believe option 2 either comes from someone with tmi or someone who is clinical

Rondo, dizzy had already stopped being in thread well before you arrived

Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 5:07 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:54 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:54 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:43 pm Maybe Guillo is lost wolf who genuinely think I'm wolf too lolol

This is getting dumb and I need to step off
What makes you think there could be a lost wolf?
Read. The. Fucking. Game.
Why are you answering to me like you know im not faking it.

I also do not think you're faking it

Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 5:03 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:53 pm Guillo lemme ask you something
Even though I think I already know the answer
Since you've obviously not read that much of the game, how or why do you insist on having such strong reads
I dont need to read the entire game to catch scum, i just need to pay attention when im on.

I got a private server full of channels where i store meta from every player, i do this because i suffer from memory loss so i need to refer to this to remember players and their meta.
I write down notes there on how they behave under certain situations.

This is why i can easily call out Sig as scum from their first post.
Or hollowkatt or many many others whom i caught scum in their first post.

Dyslexicon is the kind of player that questions why someone townreads him, i have not seen even once him questioning golden and go deep into that here.
And AtEing as town, i have not seen him do that eithet. He is very collected.

There was another game where i also tunneled him and he was town, the difference is that in that game he laughed it off and ignored me.
Dyslexicon knows im in my town meta, or should know, here he has AtEd, mock me, gaslighted me (even though he apologized later), and throw shade at me from time to time.

This is not town Dyslexicon as far as my collected info is concerned and my few memories i still retain about him.

Yeh I know about the server thing and you're a great player guillo but having context can help evaluate why or how someone is doing or not doing something outside of numerical absolutes or general patterns
Mafia is not only a deduction game but also a social game
And I cant say I'm surprised you will play like you always do, your consistency is the apple of my eye, I just wonder if maybe there could be more to your reads if you had the time to digest the game more thoroughly

Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:54 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:43 pm Maybe Guillo is lost wolf who genuinely think I'm wolf too lolol

This is getting dumb and I need to step off
What makes you think there could be a lost wolf?

Lmfaoooooo
Guillo it was discussed quite a lot in the game and what makes you think there couldnt be a lost wolf?

Guillo lemme ask you something
Even though I think I already know the answer
Since you've obviously not read that much of the game, how or why do you insist on having such strong reads

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:43 pm My unresolved concern about Guillo has to do with his attitude since returning from the mid-game hiatus. Since coming back, he seems to be perpetuating the idea that everything he has done in this game is sub-optimal if he's mafia. Which is fair, unless he is the type of player to lean into doing sub-optimal things for the sake of WIFOM.

In my estimation, Guillo is exactly the type of player to lean into doing sub-optimal things for the sake of WIFOM.

Eh... maybe but less likely imo

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:41 pm
Party Crasher wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:41 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:40 pm This is fucking sad lol
It's probably because we're all town lol

-t
Wouldn't be the first time.

Something I always consider lol

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:37 pm The answer on guillo is consistently ‘he’s allowed to be as wolfy as he wants and it’s not going to get him elimmed’ which just worries me.

Yeh idk is why I has tinfoil on him
But he did make a good point I dont think he buried any wolves and I do think wolf guillo does bury his frens

Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:39 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:36 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:35 pm [VOTE: Dyslexicon] aubergine

Im voting here because why the hell not?

Is it not the reason Golden switched to Scotty?

Not scummy at all
Golden vote on scotty is why you see golden and dizzy as difference check?
No.

I wolf read them individually but they have openly shielded each other that i dont think scum do that to associate each other.
So one of them gotta be scum only

I see lol
I cant say I'm seeing what you're seeing but thanks for the explanation

Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:35 pm [VOTE: Dyslexicon] aubergine

Im voting here because why the hell not?

Is it not the reason Golden switched to Scotty?

Not scummy at all

Golden vote on scotty is why you see golden and dizzy as difference check?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:30 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:28 pmMayhaps
Svs did have a vest so maybe that applies to lost wolf?
I forgot about this. That may actually be the case tbh. Watch this whole kamikaze nonsense to be totally irrelevant and game is just over with SVS flipping

Yep I am trying to remain collected and stay the course but it's hard with some missing info lol

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:29 pm At least, popping it in the belief it is probably not lylo is pointless. I recognise ‘we don’t know when lylo is’. IMO lylo is currently at 5 because I think there’s two wolves left balance-wise, but yeah it’s probably dangerous to rely on.

Honestly if there’s three wolves left we’ve lost I think.

I do not think 3 wolves are possible and tbh I dont really think there are 2, but I see 2 as plausible

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:29 pm ok I guess tutuu is controlling our vote today *shrugs*

Lol

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:27 pm I don't fucking know. Kill SVS. Hope for no crazy shit happening.

I still vote I'm flipped, cause it only takes a few being wrong, and if PC and/or Guillo is town, I don't fancy being around. I don't know how strategically sound that is and I wish it wasn't needed, but it feels needed. I don't know what more I can do

Do nothing but vote svs

Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:27 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 6:41 am
Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 11:40 pm Hey between Sig and Hollowkatt, im so spewed not Mod Squad at least
Modsquad dead stop derping.
Then SvS is just scum is he not

Mayhaps
Svs did have a vest so maybe that applies to lost wolf?

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:26 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:23 pm Because to be very clear *I* want to pop your vest and have already granted you that you may be, at least, not a wolf
But to prevent any shenanigans as you put it. I'd like to put you on equal footing as the rest of us. If you were to be the sole remaining non town after today, it would be a real pita to deal with having to kill you twice
I'm not voting anyone but SVS today Porscha. I don't trust the remaining players. Not only the ones that are scum, but the ones that are town too. The day 4 EoD made me lost this trust

-t

*big sigh* I understand

Do you know when you lose your vest and therefore know when it is lylo, per chance?

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:25 pm Specifically, the language they used suggests they lose their vest if the situation is lylo which 1) is also true for me and 2) means popping it is pointless.

Hah... I see. Explains things, then

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:23 pm
Golden wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:22 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 3:03 pm
Golden wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 2:26 pm The solve should be, imo

SVS -> Ender/Guillo
Not PC?
PCs claim involved specific language that mirrored my own role that has always made me feel good about them.
This is important to me. Where?

+1

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:21 pm
Party Crasher wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:20 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:13 pm @Party Crasher @Guillotine you guys down for Operation Pain today? You both vote guillo so guillo can shoot pc to pop vest and prove guillo's role?
I'm not

How am I not obvious town?

Or at least not obvious non-mafia?

I've pushed every single player except Guillo, Porscha and Ender

I remained on SVS yesterday

We risked our life in the event for no reward

I was cleared as non-mafia by most dead villagers

I don't care that Dizzy wants me to pop my vest. I think Dizzy is mafia

I'm terrified of unknown shenanigans. As I said earlier, I would much rather everyone just votes for SVS and we chill. God knows what will happen in this troll game with troll roles

-t
And if today is mylo? Why are you afraid of popping your vest? Do you not have one? Lol

Because to be very clear *I* want to pop your vest and have already granted you that you may be, at least, not a wolf
But to prevent any shenanigans as you put it. I'd like to put you on equal footing as the rest of us. If you were to be the sole remaining non town after today, it would be a real pita to deal with having to kill you twice

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:20 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:13 pm @Party Crasher @Guillotine you guys down for Operation Pain today? You both vote guillo so guillo can shoot pc to pop vest and prove guillo's role?
I'm not

How am I not obvious town?

Or at least not obvious non-mafia?

I've pushed every single player except Guillo, Porscha and Ender

I remained on SVS yesterday

We risked our life in the event for no reward

I was cleared as non-mafia by most dead villagers

I don't care that Dizzy wants me to pop my vest. I think Dizzy is mafia

I'm terrified of unknown shenanigans. As I said earlier, I would much rather everyone just votes for SVS and we chill. God knows what will happen in this troll game with troll roles

-t

And if today is mylo? Why are you afraid of popping your vest? Do you not have one? Lol

@Dyslexicon @Golden I would like to see you guys off of a guillo and on svs

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:17 pm Don't worry. If the game continues, for those who make it to next day, there will be an event that kills 10 of the 6-7 players.

nook really said heck you guys I only hosted cuz nobody else would I'm not doing this for a month

I'm not gonna cap if town didnt pop the fuck off early then theres no worlds I see where town even makes it this far lol
I get why nook said it should end by day 4 or 5

@Party Crasher @Guillotine you guys down for Operation Pain today? You both vote guillo so guillo can shoot pc to pop vest and prove guillo's role?

But it would probably behoove me to try and get some skimming in... a lot of irl time has passed

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:10 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:07 pmFair enough. I was pretty certain nutella was town by eod 1 but I understand the feeling of *squints eyes*
It was like super early, and Nut wasn't towny yet imo. But to be fair, the only person seeing the same was Marmot so lol. Not that it's necessarily a point in Ender's favor.

Definitely isnt
Honestly on game play alone I havent found ender very towny either

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:05 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 3:49 pm I do agree with dizzy that my 1 point of contention with PC is that tbh... I kinda feel like theyve just been a town siding 3p and their role seems weird to have as town, which just reinforces that 3p idea for me
But because I feel they have been town siding I've been happy to let them do their thing
But to test guillo and pop pc vest in case we need it popped for another day if the game doesnt end over night seems ideal to me (assuming the worst doesnt happen and they both lie and cover for the other person)
I think they can be lost wolf and that's why they feel this way. I just think that would fit.

I'm very much not sure.

I'm kind of frozen here tbh. So I think just chop SVS and hope it doesn't lose us the game. If me sticking around will be game losing, I would much rather try to coordinate not sticking around as bait.

To be honest I have been entirely operating under the assumption that flipping svs today doesnt lose town the game but we dont know that. I do worry that svs is a non harmful 3p to have around and that chopping her ends up being game ending for town. But I dont feel safe enough to go anywhere else

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 3:59 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 3:44 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 3:21 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 8:51 pm That's two wolves caught AND Nutella is obvious town so I'm sheeping Nut's vote.

[VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

3 wolves caught and I haven't even had lunch yet.
What if I was right D1 and this was a very off beat read on Nut
Wdym? Nutella was my top town by day 2 as well
This was not day 2, it was at the very start of the game. I was looking at notes from D1, cause I wolf read Ender for it at first, but I changed the read and it never came back. It's probably not worth much rn, but I'm in thunk mode

Fair enough. I was pretty certain nutella was town by eod 1 but I understand the feeling of *squints eyes*

I do agree with dizzy that my 1 point of contention with PC is that tbh... I kinda feel like theyve just been a town siding 3p and their role seems weird to have as town, which just reinforces that 3p idea for me
But because I feel they have been town siding I've been happy to let them do their thing
But to test guillo and pop pc vest in case we need it popped for another day if the game doesnt end over night seems ideal to me (assuming the worst doesnt happen and they both lie and cover for the other person)

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 3:21 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 8:51 pm That's two wolves caught AND Nutella is obvious town so I'm sheeping Nut's vote.

[VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

3 wolves caught and I haven't even had lunch yet.
What if I was right D1 and this was a very off beat read on Nut

Wdym? Nutella was my top town by day 2 as well

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 3:02 pm
Party Crasher wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 2:47 pm anyway, I'll repeat what I said to rondo. you literally cannot kill us now unless you either wait until LYLO or you get guillo to pop our vest tonight. and again, if that's your choice, everyone else better stack on SVS to make sure she dies while two of us vote guillo
What is helpful to town about this post, just to remind us that we can't chop you? When would we know when LYLO is?

Lylo is silent we dont know when it is

Dizzy makes me *sad uwu* cuz now I think they might be town again
I cant stop tinfoiling guillo tbf so I think I prefer a world where PC *does* have guillo pop their vest but also technically if they both wanted, they could just lie about it and guillo could have no shot and PC could lie about their vest being popped cuz if there is no death there then we wont be any wiser
But that also implies they'd never out the other person and therefore be able to win together so idk

Would anyone like me to sing them a song

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