The Syndicate

Then again you didnt wanna kill pyxxy either so I can only assume you were his partner who gave up trying to get a different wagon going and gave into the bus or town flailing on reads

@MacDougall wassup I'm surprised you're still aliving

Dennis wrote: ↑Sat Apr 15, 2023 7:05 pm Yello good job getting a wolf

But at the cost of losing wwa. Was it even worth it

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:46 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:44 pm sorry I'm on the road heading to an expo so yeh...

I strongly suggest wilgy is the vote to make if only because if he was town and pyxxy mafia the wolves would have sheeped me. Think about that.

I've been trying to get people to look at pyxxy for literal days, Mac
If pyxxy ISN'T a wolf then why the heck is nobody even giving reads on him except for Neon, Porscha and me? I have heard nobody say they think he's super towny for anything, just radio silence.

I think even falcon put up a better fight at his eod flip than pyxxy

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:29 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:29 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:20 pm When is somebody gonna bring up the elephant in the room?

Tell me about the elephant. Is it me? I feel like an elephant. I am stomping across the thread and only townies can dodge my big feet.

Work with me right now (not just TSP, but you all) as I stomp around. I have the highest winrate out of everyone who has played 15+ games on TS. I know I'm not always the best myself, but I have a +ev impact on the game, so work with me now, we have half an hour.

Why is no one suspecting Mac

@MacDougall reads to me like a sr

Probably nothing funnier than mac and tsp who are both SR'ing each other both voting the same wagon

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:39 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:38 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:36 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:32 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:29 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:29 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:20 pm When is somebody gonna bring up the elephant in the room?

Tell me about the elephant. Is it me? I feel like an elephant. I am stomping across the thread and only townies can dodge my big feet.

Work with me right now (not just TSP, but you all) as I stomp around. I have the highest winrate out of everyone who has played 15+ games on TS. I know I'm not always the best myself, but I have a +ev impact on the game, so work with me now, we have half an hour.

Why is no one suspecting Mac

This is the single wolfiest post that has ever existed. I want to love TSP forever more. love love love love love love love

I know y'all won't see it, but it is.

I can only imagine you see this as trying to shift a vote near eod, so if that's what you think then who is he shifting from? Nobody is consensus wagon atm

I don't think he is necessarily trying to shift a vote, I think he is trying to appeal to me. In a wolfy way.

I am a lawnmower, throwing extreme uncertainty into the thread, he wants me to focus on a specific target rather than the shotgun blast I've been doing for control.

You very specifically asked him about svs and he responded, no? Didnt he do what you asked? Is that considered "pocketing"? Lol
I dont know what else tsp has done to make you feel like he is specifically appealing to you

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:37 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:35 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:35 pmTSP/SVS/?

Pyxxy
Like seriously idk how many times I need to rehash that case

Since I've been here no one has said anything about Pyxxy, and honestly I would fully believe Pyxxy, for the shear sake of the fact that I honestly feel powerless against Pyxxy. Something about their posting makes me feel exactly nothing no matter what.

But yeah, I will let my betters find pyxxy and if you say pyxxy and eventually flip or convince me you're town, I'll adjust accordingly.

Lol bruh just. Look at his ISO. You've played with him enough to see what I'm seeing

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:35 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:35 pmTSP/SVS/?

Pyxxy
Like seriously idk how many times I need to rehash that case

I literally cant think of a single reason to tr him lol

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:32 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:29 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:29 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:20 pm When is somebody gonna bring up the elephant in the room?

Tell me about the elephant. Is it me? I feel like an elephant. I am stomping across the thread and only townies can dodge my big feet.

Work with me right now (not just TSP, but you all) as I stomp around. I have the highest winrate out of everyone who has played 15+ games on TS. I know I'm not always the best myself, but I have a +ev impact on the game, so work with me now, we have half an hour.

Why is no one suspecting Mac

This is the single wolfiest post that has ever existed. I want to love TSP forever more. love love love love love love love

I know y'all won't see it, but it is.

I can only imagine you see this as trying to shift a vote near eod, so if that's what you think then who is he shifting from? Nobody is consensus wagon atm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:30 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:29 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:29 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:20 pm When is somebody gonna bring up the elephant in the room?

Tell me about the elephant. Is it me? I feel like an elephant. I am stomping across the thread and only townies can dodge my big feet.

Work with me right now (not just TSP, but you all) as I stomp around. I have the highest winrate out of everyone who has played 15+ games on TS. I know I'm not always the best myself, but I have a +ev impact on the game, so work with me now, we have half an hour.

Why is no one suspecting Mac

You're the one voting with him. You're voting with someone you want to talk about, while voting someone you feel is town.

Why is no one suspecting TSP?

His name was brought up and lmao, by notably mac, who he just kinda turned tail on

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:29 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:29 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:20 pm When is somebody gonna bring up the elephant in the room?

Tell me about the elephant. Is it me? I feel like an elephant. I am stomping across the thread and only townies can dodge my big feet.

Work with me right now (not just TSP, but you all) as I stomp around. I have the highest winrate out of everyone who has played 15+ games on TS. I know I'm not always the best myself, but I have a +ev impact on the game, so work with me now, we have half an hour.

Why is no one suspecting Mac

I need a flip today before I start destroying my mental health to begin considering mac as a wolf

Why are you suspecting him

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:15 pm @MacDougall @TonyStarkPrime

SVS looks scummy and they look like they want to pocket DrWilgy.

What are your thoughts on SVS?

This implies you tr wilgy?

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:16 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:04 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 5:59 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 5:57 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 5:56 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 5:54 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 5:37 pm

Who should I vote for?

I don't care read the game

*shrug* play the game

I am. Just because I do not play the game how you want me to does not mean I am not playing.

There is zero chance I will read what I haven't by EoD, so I am not even going to try. Instead I am going to do what I do best - make people do AI things. AI things that people can choose to do or not do are currently:

1.) tell me who to vote for.

I personally believe pyxxy is probs best but if you cant abide that vote then go wilgy

Tell me about Wilgy.

Do you have a take on SVS?

It's hard to say too much since he has given little to go off of but when he actually had words to use at start of day today he pushed a lot of weird pairings/groupings and then went back to 1 word posting. And after mac made his case that wolf wilgy fits into many worlds, and that wilgy is also wolfy cuz he voted me, wilgy went back to saying I was towny. Lol
But I'm pretty pressed onto pyxxy right now. Even if he has to goofy post I think as town he would enjoy it and not use it as an excuse to low post tbh

Idk... she wasnt a lot of my focus today. I tr'd her early but when I kept pushing mac on if her pairing with kate could ever be a wolf and town and not t/t or w/w, he doesnt think it's possible. The issue is I dont feel kate has been wolfy... which if mac is right, then if kate is town then svs is town. But I'm not good at reading either of them. I thought svs was town until she was practically outed in goc and I've never caught a wolf kate so im leaning on mac a little more to help me with them, but today right now I think it is more important to flip pyxxy or wilgy

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 5:59 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 5:57 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 5:56 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 5:54 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 5:37 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 5:33 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 5:06 pm I am not being listened to in this game and it pains me.

I trust you but I tried engaging you about wilgy and you just ignored me

Who should I vote for?

I don't care read the game

*shrug* play the game

I am. Just because I do not play the game how you want me to does not mean I am not playing.

There is zero chance I will read what I haven't by EoD, so I am not even going to try. Instead I am going to do what I do best - make people do AI things. AI things that people can choose to do or not do are currently:

1.) tell me who to vote for.

I personally believe pyxxy is probs best but if you cant abide that vote then go wilgy

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 12:23 pm Ok now that I've bored you all with my pyxxy read and he hasn't even come in to refute any of my reasoning since he already tried "but I don't have to do anything as a wolf, since in the last game I didn't influence votes and I won... Look at me here, I'm doing even less so the wagons aren't my fault!" and that is absolutely NOT towny reasoning (seriously, don't believe me? Read his iso, it's short, and it is definitely not towny)...

Im intrigued by Wilgy saying" yes" and agreeing with my take on porscha moving her from a scumread to a townread today. I don't really like it, and I don't buy it because he's back to answering with "yes" and giving no explanation to go with it. Do i find a "yes" scummy? No, not really in a vacuum, but it's getting old, we determined it isn't role related or a post restriction since he posted normally a few times, and I cannot for the life of me tell the difference between Wilgy giving a full read on someone, or Wilgy naming the impression he got off a single post.

I'm actually under the impression wilgy has some limit on his speech since he mentioned counting his words. But I am wary of him agreeing I'm townier *now* after what mac said, as if he is worried I'll vote him so now he is trying to pocket me by giving me a tr

I will reconsider moving my vote tomorrow

or maybe dennis. okay I need to stop thinking about this bye

didn't tsp say something about kate/svs today? as a thought of who could be third with kate/svs

idk maybe i'm delusional i'll check for it tomorrow

I mean fuck it I guess wilgy could still be a third wolf in that scenario. my brain hurts and I have to sleep

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 5:35 am Kate had SVS dead to absolute rights the last game they both played. Remember? Literally saw through her like she was a complete noob. It was godly.

Kate will not be wrong on SVS if she is town. If SVS is mafia Kate is not town Kate is mafia.

Kate MAYBE pocketing SVS. But I would expect SVS to have at least humoured the thought given the situation we find ourselves in.

They are either wolves or they are town with absolutely disgustingly good meta reads on each other. If they are t/w I will be ... mildly annoyed at the town between them lol.

But seriously I am very confident it's not t/t.

The more I talk the more I am convincing myself especially that Nutella only dies over 1 of them if they are both mafia tbh. We are on day 3 and have had SVS and Kate mason town locking each other. Kate who BREAKS wolf teams with her soul reads. Zero wolf flips and both alive?

I sincerely hadn't played with worlds where svs and kate would both be wolves when the hamster in my brain has been a lot more focused on other people. but that would also align with your idea that... the votes aren't... what was it? okay you said svs and kate on pyxxy so pyxxy is town. I'm not sold on that because of my individual read on pyxxy. but you also said wolf wilgy would likely be w wwa and town kate/svs... so if it's wolf kate/svs, then doesnt that also mean wilgy is less likely involved as the third wolf? who would the third be?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 5:31 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 5:29 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 5:18 am For Pyxxy to be mafia likely requires SVS/Kate to be t/w and I frankly don't believe it. They are God read shielding each other. Their reads on each other ate verifiably sheepable. They won't be wrong. If one is town the other is. They are either wolves power shielding or t/t.

ah that's the perspective you're using...... I always feel like it's possible to misread and even god reads can slip from the hands of heaven (be wrong) so I didn't actually consider that it's 99.99% likely they are accurate in the reciprocal read. still not sure I really believe that but I understand how you were thinking

If you think they can be wrong on each other then the read is they are w/w because neither are remotely entertaining the likelihood on day 3 with 0 dead wolves.

I mean you most definitely know them better than I do, combined and individually, I just don't see why a town couldn't be getting fooled by a wolf in between them. like i'm not capable of understanding the confidence in the read you have of them because I haven't at any point witnessed them in a way that would make me believe what you believe about them being paired. and i'm not saying that's what is happening, but I do now see where your thought process is coming from and i'll keep it in mind

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 5:30 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 5:23 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 5:04 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 5:03 am Pyxxy d1 didn't vote.
Pyxxy d1 just sheeped you.
The strength of your Pyxxy scumread is massively overstated to where it should be. Pyxxy is nowhere near the wolfiest slot in this game and is being pushed by wolves in every wolf team combination i can create.

Also NUTELLA HAD PYXXY AS A STRONG TOWNREAD AND GOT SHOT AFTER VOTING OUT A TOWN.

For Pyxxy to be a wolf means Nutella was fear killed. That only comes from a wolf team that has 2 of Kate/WWA or SVS in it given Nutella's reads.

So if Pyxxy is mafia it's with 2 of these anyway. 2 of them are voting Pyxxy. Pyxxy is town.

D2 sheep.

Town please just listen to me. I am seeing the game clear because I ignored it for 2 days while the wolves sat in here weaving webs of bs around your heads.

maybe weaving webs of lies can apply to your poe in kate/svs or something but idk about wilgy who hardly talked lol

and that entire analysis hinges on why nutella was nk'd when nutella was obv town the night before she got killed. it's impossible to know why she was nk'd, especially to go so far as to say for certain a specific read was why she was nk'd to create this entire world. is there a specific reason you have chosen to see this exact timeline

Nonsense Wilgy has come up with a whole bunch of baseless bogus nonsense since I was gone and it's the only reason anyone is fucking townreading him.

Do you think I'm mafia?

if you're referring to the first and only real posts he made earlier today then yes, I don't particularly understand them and do think some of the dichotomies he put forth could potentially be from a wolf trying to push thread into a bad direction early in the day

and no I doubt it

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 5:18 am For Pyxxy to be mafia likely requires SVS/Kate to be t/w and I frankly don't believe it. They are God read shielding each other. Their reads on each other ate verifiably sheepable. They won't be wrong. If one is town the other is. They are either wolves power shielding or t/t.

ah that's the perspective you're using...... I always feel like it's possible to misread and even god reads can slip from the hands of heaven (be wrong) so I didn't actually consider that it's 99.99% likely they are accurate in the reciprocal read. still not sure I really believe that but I understand how you were thinking

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 5:05 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 5:00 am Okay wagonomics breakdown.

Day 1 confirmed as t/t wagons increases chance of wolves being off wagon.

Kate and Wilgy cross vanity voting off wagon heavily implies a wolf between them. Confirmed town Falcon voting Wilgy. Confirmed town Lilypetal voting me.

If Kate is town Wilgy is mafia. Kate should be pushing Wilgy. Why is she not? Wilgy is probably mafia but Kate's actions are questionable too. Further argument for my dichotomy theory.

Nutella vote is 2 confirmed town to me and TSP. Is this wagon pure? Why would it be? Why would wolves avoid voting Nutella and instead push Rondo unless they were outside the vote entirely?

Rondo wagon is not resolved. 3 living slots voting there.

Day 2 I again suspect is t/t. If Neon is a wolf why not cross vote? If Neon is a wolf there are mafia, probably 2 mafia voting Falcon and Neon wagon is probably clean. Neon as town has a clear solve. Why is Neon not voting those pushing them? If Neon is mafia Wilgy is again a probable hit.

Everywhere I look Wilgy is mafia. Just vote out Wilgy.

Wilgy does not vote Falcon and Porscha in this game if he is town. Trust me.

So this is at top of page.

acknowledged

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 5:04 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 5:03 am Pyxxy d1 didn't vote.
Pyxxy d1 just sheeped you.
The strength of your Pyxxy scumread is massively overstated to where it should be. Pyxxy is nowhere near the wolfiest slot in this game and is being pushed by wolves in every wolf team combination i can create.

Also NUTELLA HAD PYXXY AS A STRONG TOWNREAD AND GOT SHOT AFTER VOTING OUT A TOWN.

For Pyxxy to be a wolf means Nutella was fear killed. That only comes from a wolf team that has 2 of Kate/WWA or SVS in it given Nutella's reads.

So if Pyxxy is mafia it's with 2 of these anyway. 2 of them are voting Pyxxy. Pyxxy is town.

D2 sheep.

Town please just listen to me. I am seeing the game clear because I ignored it for 2 days while the wolves sat in here weaving webs of bs around your heads.

maybe weaving webs of lies can apply to your poe in kate/svs or something but idk about wilgy who hardly talked lol

and that entire analysis hinges on why nutella was nk'd when nutella was obv town the night before she got killed. it's impossible to know why she was nk'd, especially to go so far as to say for certain a specific read was why she was nk'd to create this entire world. is there a specific reason you have chosen to see this exact timeline

Neon wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 4:45 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 4:30 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 3:11 am I see Dennis has yet to vote. I consider that outing.

Pick the wolf between Seanzie and Wilgy.

I think WWA is a wolf but i would actually prefer we go to the above 3 right now simply due to WWA level of effort and my earlier vibe read.

[VOTE: Dennis] aubergine

the guy who hasn't showed up in like an entire day not voting is outing? lol

I think the guy skating by on his mother's read and doing nothing exactly the same way he abused a town read when we wolfed together is pretty outing honestly

ah well when you put it that way lol...... it doesnt look good

but I stand by the idea that he wouldn't have voted if he didnt come back to thread

whatever not coming back to thread means for his alignment is up for debate. I didn't find him particularly wolfy before, but his eod was objectively not good. but what are the chances both him and pyxxy biff the eod that drastically and both neglect thread the following day as w/w? idk i'm about to just start pre flipping pyxxy in my head even if I need to vote off him today lol if he isn't gonna play then he isn't much of a threat anyway

there's just no chance wolves are sitting back doing nothing today? or maybe they are and mac is right. pain

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 4:39 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 1:20 am Like you were literally in thread at that time wwa. If you're having trouble where to look, as it seems to me from your poor attempt at convincing sean I've been wolfy, then just flip pyxxy so we can look for associatives and move the hell on.

Nobody is doing anything productive so far and the gamestate is getting on my nerves (though I welcome not needing to catch up on 10 pages in 1 sitting)

Hope this helps your delusion that I tried pocketing you btw

I'm on pyxxy anyway
Like I said, I'm vote parking on him
Idk why you don't just call me a wolf and vote me cause that's exactly what svs is doing and I also accused her of trying to pocket me earlier, I mean, imo scumreading me seems slightly more natural of a reaction than townreading me but maybe my expectations are wack

I dont know what wolf you is like but if it's like 75% or more of this i'm never finding you
and I dont need to call you a wolf when I don't think you are one. if you are wolfing then my towncore will be in shambles

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 4:12 am The reason Wilgy isn’t a wolf is because some wolf made that crazy “wow this is helpful analysis” post that I think is roughly never w/w

I think that a wolf could easily make that post at another wolf

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 3:16 am I think there is one between Sean and Wilgy and I'd lean like 80% Wilgy over Sean.

One or two between Kate/SVS/WWA/Dennis. Kate and SVS shielding each other likely makes them same alignment. I don't see Kate or SVS as being same to WWA or Dennis. WWA and Dennis I don't have a comment on their sameness.

Porscha and Neon are probably just both town. Contextually in this analysis TSP is just a wildcard. I wish he would just clear himself by solving the game for me but until then I have to just scumread him sadly.

I think in Wilgy wolf worlds we are more likely in WWA w and Kate/SVS t worlds. In Seanzie w worlds we are probably in Kate/SVS w world.

Kate/SVS/Seanzie
or
WWA/Wilgy/Dennis

Feels like the options before us to me.

explain how it's most likely kate and svs are shielding each other cuz they are same alignment? couldn't it be a w/t (not respectively, necessarily) pairing where a wolf pocketed the town?

you just sr tsp every game he doesnt have the same reads as you? lol

and how are you coming up with the 2 groups between wilgy and sean? just from sean and wwa's interactions earlier?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 3:11 am I see Dennis has yet to vote. I consider that outing.

Pick the wolf between Seanzie and Wilgy.

I think WWA is a wolf but i would actually prefer we go to the above 3 right now simply due to WWA level of effort and my earlier vibe read.

[VOTE: Dennis] aubergine

the guy who hasn't showed up in like an entire day not voting is outing? lol

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 3:10 am Pyxxy in no way shape or form should be leading the votes today.

leading like as in, shouldn't be leading in the poll as the most voted person, or as in telling people how to vote

Like wwa. I can *see* that you've made moves that could appear wolfy. Everybody can. So how do you determine which of those people is trying to get you flipped for it?

What people like mac arent considering about eod is that pyxxy followed *your lead*. If he tmi'd neon town, I'm less inclined to believe that you, wolf wwa, would tell your wolf partner pyxxy, to move off of town neon and onto town falcon instead. And what is the point of that for wolves. I guess in some backwards universe the plan is do it so that I sit here tr'ing you while pyxxy has pretty obviously given himself up for it, but I feel that's less likely in worlds where you have been extremely vocal about your reads and your tone is genuine. It is very hard to imagine that you are power wolfing like this, it only makes sense to me if pyxxy did his play to make you look better because from a team standpoint it doesnt do anything beneficial for wolves, it's literally only good to get someone to go deep. So unless that is exactly what you are doing, I'm not inclined to think you are partnered with pyxxy

This of course does hinge on pyxxy tmi'ing neon town. If neom is wolf then yeah it's more likely you would direct (or let?) Pyxxy just sheep your read to save your teammate. But the dichotomies between how you have been playing and how pyxxy has been playing are night and day. Like if town never fucked up or made mistakes or didnt vote other town then the game would be easy. We have to try and see through the weeds to be as accurate as possible and since I've consistently read you as towny via tone, activity, pushing back on people, even in ways that really arent behooving you, to me you have not been opportunistic about saving your own ass and dont appear overly worried about how wolfy you appear, you just do whatever the fuck you want anyways. So if I am confronted with the idea that you are:
1) town, in most cases
2) wolfing, but *only* if powerwolfing the absolute fuck out of this game, then

3) my conclusion is 1.

If a wolf is pushing you today, like there almost always has to be since most people are not tr'ing you, then who do you think it is?

Like you were literally in thread at that time wwa. If you're having trouble where to look, as it seems to me from your poor attempt at convincing sean I've been wolfy, then just flip pyxxy so we can look for associatives and move the hell on.

Nobody is doing anything productive so far and the gamestate is getting on my nerves (though I welcome not needing to catch up on 10 pages in 1 sitting)

Hope this helps your delusion that I tried pocketing you btw

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 1:07 pm That being said @Dennis you were clearly playing quite similar to our last game together. You're playing very bold and saying things that I believe a wolf just wouldn't do. You were shoving yourself in the spotlight early saying pretty much nonsense and people were taking stances on you.

That's enough for me to town read you for now.

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 1:09 pm I'm now town reading Nutella. Their internal consistency in their posts was good and villagery. Could go more into detail but ye village read there

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 1:13 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 10:36 am

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 10:07 am Town
Lily
Wilgy
Dennis


Mid/unsorted but sliiiightly ordered
Porscha
Rondo
Pyxxy
SVS
TSP
Neon
Sean
Wind
Falcon
Kate


Wolf
Mac lol

Why in the world am I last?

This is mildly towny.

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 1:20 pm Also I'm moving Porscha up. Read her iso in the last game I saw her wolf in and she talks a lot more about useless game stuff than fluff. She's been fine~ comparatively

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 5:04 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 4:16 am

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 4:11 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 3:58 am

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 3:54 am [VOTE: mac] aubergine

explain yourself

just not feeling it with mac rn lol

are you able to explain why you think mac hero votes nutella just to double down on the vote after nutella actually posts

how is that a hero vote? fmpov mac is blatantly pushing a villager and getting 0 pushback while others pile on. I don't get the nutella vote at all and it just looks like Mac is openwolfing

Sorry I'm mad I didnt wait

She tr me dennis kate nutella and sr'd mac. So unless youd like to make the argument that *I* specifically killed her to lock in the townread on me, you would have to assert that for kate and dennis and also just not look at mac, ever, who she actually sr'd. Good luck making sense of that!

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 12:25 am Again on the Porscha case, I don't think she's done enough that I consider towny
Also I will keep bringing up that Lily strongly scumread her and died N1 cause I really think that's worth considering
Cause in the champs practice game Lily started out as widely townread there too for a day but she was wolfing, and my guess is that if any of the scumteam in this game played in that game, they would know they wouldn't have to kill Lily on N1 unless they perceived her as a threat
And her Porscha read stood out to me because she held onto it and then Porscha handled it by townreading Lily and saying that scum!Lily would start out by townreading Porscha instead.

Lily fucking died not scumreading me. I can quote the post when I'm home but you would do better to elaborate on how I havent been towny even though I'm "tonally normal "

Like lay out points to convince the jury cuz rn as the jury I'm extremely not convinced

Lmao imagine not looking into anyone jumping on you when almost the entire thread wolf reads you, which leaves this situation RIPE for being opportunistically ML'd, and trying to convince the one person tr'ing you that you're wolfing. YOU SHOULD BE TRYINF TO WORK WITH ME

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Thu Apr 13, 2023 4:08 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Apr 13, 2023 1:03 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Thu Apr 13, 2023 12:57 pm [VOTE: pyxxy] aubergine

I seriously think Porscha is bussing pyxxy

Porscha made a post that made me feel like she was trying to pocket me, and possibly you, or maybe was teammates with you.

I thought she was trying to pocket me earlier too lol
Idc really if you think she's teamed with me cause all I've done is say I think she should be in the PoE and haven't really pushed her
So tbf I could also be bussing her but like... Nobody except me has had her in the PoE except for Lily who died N1
And I'm surprised I'm the only one who commented on that yesterday

Yeah lilys poe includes everyone who is alive, great work detective

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Thu Apr 13, 2023 12:57 pm [VOTE: pyxxy] aubergine

I seriously think Porscha is bussing pyxxy

Pyxxy has done literally nothing but fucking lolcat today and give up what was basically a fake attempt at playing from eod yesterday, it was wolfy as shit, and you should be more concerned about people SR'ing you for last eod while letting pyxxy skate by despite his god awful, and I mean god awful, eod. Can we please just hammer him. I went almost 24 calendar hours without being able to get back to thread and when I come back, virtually *nothing* has happened in that time.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Apr 13, 2023 1:03 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Thu Apr 13, 2023 12:57 pm [VOTE: pyxxy] aubergine

I seriously think Porscha is bussing pyxxy

Porscha made a post that made me feel like she was trying to pocket me, and possibly you, or maybe was teammates with you.

???

mac what do you think of tsp

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Apr 13, 2023 12:39 am But no, the actual conclusion is that there is one in Mac/TSP and that there's at least one in Pyxxy/Seanzie/WWA. Perhaps Seanzie as that'd make them the wolf on both d1 and d2 town flips.

There's an outlier in Kate/Porscha that should be addressed as well.

...

yes

bold of you to place sean as the target in that group of 3

and you can't even respond to me about it zzzzzz

To be clear it is very funny I just dont understand

Neon did you edit your pfp lmao what the f*ck is that

Neon wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 8:18 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 7:20 pm Hot take: wagons were T/T and maybe T/T/T between falcon/Neon/Kate

@DrWilgy got anything to say? Any revolutionary new scumreads overnight?

@Porscha and @pyxxy what are your reads on each other?

Everyone else, what are your reads on those two?

Porscha, what do you make of that EoD? I know you had your vote on Neon but does your opinion change at all now that you've seen my rally to move everyone away, falcon flipped town, and Neon never came back to the thread?

pyxxy, why did you not seem to care whether falcon or Neon flipped?

@Neon do you have an opinion on EoD yesterday? cause you were getting hella wagoned while you weren't there.

Cant wait for Kate and Dennis to go after me today lmao.

I really shouldn't be awake, but I was finishing packing so I'm posting while I'm here and I'll be back in 2 or 3 hours lol.

Actually this reminded me of what I was gonna post about.

Is really weird to me that I was in thread for so long without pressure and when I went to bed I got run up. That's not towny there's defs some wolfy motivation in there somewhere nobody wants to talk to me or pressure me when I'm available to talk back and engage with it only when I'm out of thread.

I've been getting miskilled a lot lately but at least I usually understand it. This was just big yucky.

My thoughts haven't really changed much I don't think. There's only one at most in SVS/Kate maybe zero.

Pyxxy is still scummy AF nothing in catch up pulled me off that.

You are still obv towning.

I'm not surprised Nut died they were basically spewed town.

If both svs and kate are town then your wagon was pure. So where did the wolves vote?

Oh also @Seanzie I read thru your thing with mac and nutella over night and I do believe that mac was able to help you make yourself appear very town. I still dont think of wwa any worse for her take on you throughout the day though. And if her eod isnt enough to convince you she isnt wolfing then I dont know what is

Like falcon didnt do himself any favors but he usually doesnt anyway. I feel like someone should have had their eyes open to avoid a shrug yeet like that. Shrug yeets cause me agony

Falcon is always such LHF I kinds hate that wilgy vote on him too

@DrWilgy atone for your sins

I'm more convinced neon is town and pyxxy is not because a wolf during eod with 2 wagons would always have incentive to try and get their partner off the hook and not sit around picking his nose looking bored. But he did the latter

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 7:20 pm Hot take: wagons were T/T and maybe T/T/T between falcon/Neon/Kate

@DrWilgy got anything to say? Any revolutionary new scumreads overnight?

@Porscha and @pyxxy what are your reads on each other?

Everyone else, what are your reads on those two?

Porscha, what do you make of that EoD? I know you had your vote on Neon but does your opinion change at all now that you've seen my rally to move everyone away, falcon flipped town, and Neon never came back to the thread?

pyxxy, why did you not seem to care whether falcon or Neon flipped?

@Neon do you have an opinion on EoD yesterday? cause you were getting hella wagoned while you weren't there.

Cant wait for Kate and Dennis to go after me today lmao.

I really shouldn't be awake, but I was finishing packing so I'm posting while I'm here and I'll be back in 2 or 3 hours lol.

1) pyxxy has been pretty afk for most of the game and from what I saw during catch up over night, he seemed sort of like... just willing to sheep whatever. The first part is not a great look from him, because normally he has a tooon of content... Which makes me worry he is wolfing and had tmi that wagons were t/t since he seemed so nonchalant about where his vote went when youd think he would have something more to say about it. I think he is scummy af and I wish he had been the shrug yeet yesterday instead of falcon being a shrug yeet.
And I dont think neon not making it back for eod is indicative of anything, I didnt make it for eod either, and from what I know neon is usually asleep for eod's around this time.
Really, what bugged me the most about neon early and why I had my vote on her to begin with, is that I didnt understand why she was sheeping falcon so much? Like she seemed to post enough or be around enough to make her own reads and not need to sheep. But she didnt back down from it when I pushed her, which I think she would potentially do to keep me from SR'ing her, and I thought the posts she made when she came back were fairly towny. But I also think I recall pyxxy (dennis too maybe?) saying the same thing about her comeback being towny and now I'm just kinda preflipping him mentally and I'm even more convinced its just tmi on neon town