The Syndicate

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 5:47 pm Notable wagons that are notable in distribution are:
D1:
MacDougall ( 3 ): RondoDimBuckle, Porscha, Dennis
Dennis ( 3 ): Guillotine, Neon, falcon45ca

D3:
Lilypetal - (7) - Golden, Michelle, MacDougall, Neon, Dyslexicon, falcon45ca, Sloonei

Do we think any of these 3 are pure?

I think lily is most likely to not be pure

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 5:46 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 5:44 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 5:30 pm
Golden wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 5:24 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 5:18 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 4:58 pm Ive seen Sloonei power town, this is not it.
No one in this game has thought to accuse me of "power towning." What is the point of this post?
Guillo’s behaviour is consistently wolfy and this is just another example but ‘that’s just guillo’
You are mafia huh. We have never played before, you are getting coached about what to say about. People here specially scum love to disregard me as guillo doing guillo things but you cannot know this
In all of the posts you've missed, this has been said about you
Are you my son's lawyer?

I plead the fifth until I talk to my lawyer

Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 5:30 pm
Golden wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 5:24 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 5:18 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 4:58 pm Ive seen Sloonei power town, this is not it.
No one in this game has thought to accuse me of "power towning." What is the point of this post?
Guillo’s behaviour is consistently wolfy and this is just another example but ‘that’s just guillo’
You are mafia huh. We have never played before, you are getting coached about what to say about. People here specially scum love to disregard me as guillo doing guillo things but you cannot know this

In all of the posts you've missed, this has been said about you

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 5:26 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 5:24 pm
Golden wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 5:23 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 5:19 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 5:15 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 5:10 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 5:08 pm

Is she voting me? I'd think it obvious...?
Are you Porscha?
Oh, that's a good question...hold up, Imma check
Lol. Falcon does have a role capable of killing
Is this a joke about Falcon making a good joke.

Just checking because I take everything literally and I’m getting confused about your back and forth on role checking Falcon.
This is not a joke. Falcon has a role that is capable of killing and thats all my check checks for.
@Guillotine this is literal answer for you too
Scotty claimed falcons role was vanilla, based on the wording of the two is this a potential confirmation that Falcon has a factional-based power?

Or, put another way, I really don’t understand why Falcon has a shield and I’d like it explained.

Scotty's role confirmed something weird about falcon I dont remember the exact wording but technically all the american and kiwi roles who can kill are labeled as vt

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 3:36 pm
Party Crasher wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 3:03 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 2:58 pm Is Party Crasher untouchable for any reason?
I havemt been paying attention to wgat makes me towmy coz its not my job but

- i was on sean, i started the marmot cfd, went back to sean
- i was scumreading marmot from d1 and challenged mac trusting nutellas shield on him
- i called out alison mafia for claiming kp and not dying for it
- all the flipped wolves were confused if im an actual player or an npc

I think theres plenty evidence im not mafia, the tinfoil is that i could be a 3p due to my sus role (but thats nooks fault)

-t
I appreciate this answer and am taking it into consideration. With that said, I am naturally more interested in hearing from others on this.

PC not untouchable but threadstate required nothing from PC to suck really badly irl yesterday and instead PC gave a lot even if it wasnt everyone's favorite

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 5:24 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 5:18 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 4:58 pm Ive seen Sloonei power town, this is not it.
No one in this game has thought to accuse me of "power towning." What is the point of this post?
Guillo’s behaviour is consistently wolfy and this is just another example but ‘that’s just guillo’

Ya it's hard to find guillo cuz even when hes town hes kinda like this so that's where people get tripped up lol
It's something he takes pride in

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 5:23 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 5:19 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 5:15 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 5:10 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 5:08 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 5:07 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 5:06 pm

I already did yesterday
What was the result?
Is she voting me? I'd think it obvious...?
Are you Porscha?
Oh, that's a good question...hold up, Imma check
Lol. Falcon does have a role capable of killing
Is this a joke about Falcon making a good joke.

Just checking because I take everything literally and I’m getting confused about your back and forth on role checking Falcon.

This is not a joke. Falcon has a role that is capable of killing and thats all my check checks for.
@Guillotine this is literal answer for you too

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 2:39 pm @Porscha If you have any info that is helpful from your gift, please share it at least a ways before EoD

Ya. Confirmed falcon has a role capable of killing

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 2:20 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 7:13 am
Golden wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 7:10 am Can anyone give me a compelling argument for why the answer here is not just guillo?
Yeah I dont wanna find the quotes but when mac claimed his role, guillo immediately gunned for him and said "you're lying cuz that's my role" but then when we all realized there were multiples of some of the roles in the game, guillo backed off. That's the only thing really giving him a pro on my pros and cons list, but I guess I do give him some points for playing relatively casually with less agenda than his normal self which I assume would be more likely if he was town
I did go back to check this, and at the point of Guillo sorting, two kiwi vts had already flipped. All in all, I think it's unlikely that Guillo is mafia. Which in this game state is rather unfortunate. We can check his claim reasonably well, and get rid of someone in PoE. I'm volunteering if PC and Guillo are going to tunnel me the rest of the game.

If there were already 2 flipped kiwis then unfortunately that takes away the pro from guillo there since he should have already known

That being said he has continuously been detached and unawares (or faking it, whatever) so ... it lines up but I dont think it's a great look regardless

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 5:15 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 5:10 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 5:08 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 5:07 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 5:06 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 11:02 am @Porscha check falcon plase
I already did yesterday
What was the result?
Is she voting me? I'd think it obvious...?
Are you Porscha?
Oh, that's a good question...hold up, Imma check

Lol. Falcon does have a role capable of killing

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 2:36 pm Fuck, I have to go soon, but might be around later.

I have a to do list:
- Towncase myself once and move on.
- Towncase Porscha (go through her posts once more)
- ISO Sig

I have two mechanical quarries. Rondo's and Sig's role both stands out. Neon flipped a vig that can shoot twice on N1 and N2, and Sig had only one shot. It doesn't really fit. Rondo's role being just 1-shot is also kind of convenient. HOWEVER, if it's a lite, why not just keep lying and give a fake result?

I town read Golden on play. If he's mafia, he's shielding me because he feels bad for me here. I know he's a great player, but his whole way of going about everything of this is just very towny to me, and I've thought that for pretty much the whole game.

I really don't know who is mafia. This game is just very hard for me right now. I do intend to get out of this though.

Why bother town casing me? Not sure anyone else needs it unless you're doing it for yourself

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 2:14 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 2:14 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 4:54 am But PC, if falcon and guillo are both a kiwi or american vt then it's at 7 and idk if it should actually be considered or not in this situation then like........... idk I'm really second guessing myself on if its important or not
I don't think numbers are really important. But here you go:

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 5:24 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 12:39 am
lucy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 12:26 am i am vanilla town with an ability
An ability outside of the thread? Is that what you are talking about?
I was going to say something about this, but I better not.
This is early D1, my reaction to Kate claiming VT. Let me know if you need more.
The above should be a response to the below post. @Porscha

Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 4:56 am @Dyslexicon would you mind sharing some info about your role? (Or all of it, I'm greedy too)

I can only assume it is not the same as Lucy's so I'd say it's still vague but thanks for the receipt

Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 11:02 am @Porscha check falcon plase

I already did yesterday

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 7:19 am Thing that is kinda holding me back on Sig:

He did effectively soft killing Allison EOD before that kill happened.

So you dont think he could have shot at golden?

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 7:17 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 7:14 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 7:13 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 7:10 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 7:09 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 7:08 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 7:02 am

yeah I am really not vibing with Porscha this game. Almost lock wolf at this point
If my current theory is correct you can shake my hand post game
But it is amusing to me that you think I'm trying to out you instead of not mislynch you
different statements dont try to equate them
Ah sorry I assumed you meant kill you by outting you since you appear peeved by efforts to clarify your mech claims
outing me is different. Ender right now is trying to out me. Unsuccessfully. You are trying to get me killed by getting me to talk about Mech
How would talking about mech get you killed if it isnt via outting lol
viewtopic.php?p=1020324#p1020324

lol

I mean tbf they already had an entire role flip from nutella so all they had to do was say they were in the dnd server and the wolf could copy paste their entire roles with the role name promptly. They were outted

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 7:16 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 7:13 am
Golden wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 7:10 am Can anyone give me a compelling argument for why the answer here is not just guillo?
Yeah I dont wanna find the quotes but when mac claimed his role, guillo immediately gunned for him and said "you're lying cuz that's my role" but then when we all realized there were multiples of some of the roles in the game, guillo backed off. That's the only thing really giving him a pro on my pros and cons list, but I guess I do give him some points for playing relatively casually with less agenda than his normal self which I assume would be more likely if he was town
Would w!guillo, assuming the same ability, be likely to think Mac was anti-town and willing to Thunderdome?

Something that you need to know about guillo is that he will accuse anyone of anti town behavior and is always willing to thunderdome

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 7:13 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 7:10 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 7:09 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 7:08 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 7:02 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 7:01 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:58 am

I did not know this. I think Porscha is trying to bait me into talking about it so she can kill me.
you should do stand up
yeah I am really not vibing with Porscha this game. Almost lock wolf at this point
If my current theory is correct you can shake my hand post game
But it is amusing to me that you think I'm trying to out you instead of not mislynch you
different statements dont try to equate them
Ah sorry I assumed you meant kill you by outting you since you appear peeved by efforts to clarify your mech claims
outing me is different. Ender right now is trying to out me. Unsuccessfully. You are trying to get me killed by getting me to talk about Mech

How would talking about mech get you killed if it isnt via outting lol

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 7:10 am Can anyone give me a compelling argument for why the answer here is not just guillo?

Yeah I dont wanna find the quotes but when mac claimed his role, guillo immediately gunned for him and said "you're lying cuz that's my role" but then when we all realized there were multiples of some of the roles in the game, guillo backed off. That's the only thing really giving him a pro on my pros and cons list, but I guess I do give him some points for playing relatively casually with less agenda than his normal self which I assume would be more likely if he was town

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 7:09 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 7:08 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 7:02 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 7:01 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:58 am
Golden wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:56 am Sloonei is tortoise dad and Porscha is cyclops mum
I did not know this. I think Porscha is trying to bait me into talking about it so she can kill me.
you should do stand up
yeah I am really not vibing with Porscha this game. Almost lock wolf at this point
If my current theory is correct you can shake my hand post game
But it is amusing to me that you think I'm trying to out you instead of not mislynch you
different statements dont try to equate them

Ah sorry I assumed you meant kill you by outting you since you appear peeved by efforts to clarify your mech claims

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 7:02 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 7:01 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:58 am
Golden wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:56 am Sloonei is tortoise dad and Porscha is cyclops mum
I did not know this. I think Porscha is trying to bait me into talking about it so she can kill me.
you should do stand up
yeah I am really not vibing with Porscha this game. Almost lock wolf at this point

If my current theory is correct you can shake my hand post game
But it is amusing to me that you think I'm trying to out you instead of not mislynch you

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:58 am
Golden wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:56 am Sloonei is tortoise dad and Porscha is cyclops mum
I did not know this. I think Porscha is trying to bait me into talking about it so she can kill me.

you should do stand up

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:58 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:46 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:44 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 4:59 am @EnderWiggin hey I need to ask you something
Yeah?
Did you get the email I sent you with that artist's contact info for the commission you needed done?
Nope.

Ugh alright it's been having file formatting errors

Well now my sig take doesnt feel so hot latke. That's nice

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:55 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:53 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:50 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:48 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:45 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:42 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:36 am

Will you elaborate on what you did despite it being useless
oh. Nothing. That was soup cover, thanks for forcing me to say it out loud.
Did you have a n0 for your parity?
I didnt think I could use it night 0 I was only told my role d1, so no n1. seeded it d2, got more agro about it d3 then wilgy shot a wolf so I went back to chilling and being a derp
So the only initial lie about your role is that you did not create a neighborhood + parity cop, you only had parity cop and got dragged into the dnd server, right?

Has anything happened in the dnd server since yesterday? What's up with the cyclops? (Is his mom doing well? Shes so sweet)

what? the neighborhood was obviously the dnd group but I was trying to off the scent from them and get people looking for a third to smoke screen for a day while we delt with the cyclops. I will not confirm what I had. I will only confirm the outcome.

I will not talk about the dnd server since the last time people did it went poorly
Porscha is evil. She knows information she couldnt. Explain why you said this.

I see you're in a humorous mood

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:53 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:50 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:48 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:45 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:42 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:36 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 11:46 pm I did other things but they ended up being useless / hitting dead people so I didnt really talk about them
Will you elaborate on what you did despite it being useless
oh. Nothing. That was soup cover, thanks for forcing me to say it out loud.
Did you have a n0 for your parity?
I didnt think I could use it night 0 I was only told my role d1, so no n1. seeded it d2, got more agro about it d3 then wilgy shot a wolf so I went back to chilling and being a derp
So the only initial lie about your role is that you did not create a neighborhood + parity cop, you only had parity cop and got dragged into the dnd server, right?

Has anything happened in the dnd server since yesterday? What's up with the cyclops? (Is his mom doing well? Shes so sweet)
what? the neighborhood was obviously the dnd group but I was trying to off the scent from them and get people looking for a third to smoke screen for a day while we delt with the cyclops. I will not confirm what I had. I will only confirm the outcome.

I will not talk about the dnd server since the last time people did it went poorly

... right. That was the initial lie. Lol

At this point is it ever possible that svs, dizzy, (and this is my hot potato take- such as a latke- dont freak out- maybe sig) is literally just game ending?

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:48 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:45 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:42 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:36 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 11:46 pm I did other things but they ended up being useless / hitting dead people so I didnt really talk about them
Will you elaborate on what you did despite it being useless
oh. Nothing. That was soup cover, thanks for forcing me to say it out loud.
Did you have a n0 for your parity?
I didnt think I could use it night 0 I was only told my role d1, so no n1. seeded it d2, got more agro about it d3 then wilgy shot a wolf so I went back to chilling and being a derp

So the only initial lie about your role is that you did not create a neighborhood + parity cop, you only had parity cop and got dragged into the dnd server, right?

Has anything happened in the dnd server since yesterday? What's up with the cyclops? (Is his mom doing well? Shes so sweet)

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:44 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 4:59 am @EnderWiggin hey I need to ask you something
Yeah?

Did you get the email I sent you with that artist's contact info for the commission you needed done?

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:42 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:36 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 11:46 pm I did other things but they ended up being useless / hitting dead people so I didnt really talk about them
Will you elaborate on what you did despite it being useless
oh. Nothing. That was soup cover, thanks for forcing me to say it out loud.

Did you have a n0 for your parity?

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:42 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:36 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 11:46 pm I did other things but they ended up being useless / hitting dead people so I didnt really talk about them
Will you elaborate on what you did despite it being useless
oh. Nothing. That was soup cover, thanks for forcing me to say it out loud.

I'm of the opinion that sometimes push comes to shove

Rondo I'm a convinceable individual and I'm not entirely sold on your alignment which I've mentioned, however choosing to omgus me instead of engaging me in other forms will not help me find you

I also tr'd cape and dennis day 1 and wouldnt touch the wagons and instead voted mac who I also tr'd since be asked me to for his lied-about- cop check @RondoDimBuckle

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:34 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:32 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:31 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:29 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:03 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 2:50 am [VOTE: party crasher] aubergine

From my detached point of view, the hydra is the slot most responsible for dictating the direction of the thread right now. Also from my detached point of view, the thread is not in a great state right now. If PC is town, this vote should be taken as a word of caution. If PC is not town, then look at me go.
PC is not town if they keep pushing this anti town agenda. There is no way town can come together into a proper discussion while tutuu is ruining town wim and causing a rift between everyone but they are likely 3p going off when other people said. She just wants to murder me so we ignore her and find the wolves
I think when you're caught up you will not find this to be true
she has decided I am mafia and will not re-evaluate and is attacking me whenever I try to talk to anyone regardless of if she is involved or not. She is causing a thread state that is combative and not inclusive to people who want to avoid that kind of vibe. It also pushes away any collaborative thought. And you, my current mafia vibe, tells me what I know to be true as untrue? Interesting.
Rondo I feel like you're really disconnected from the thread if you sincerely havent found me town yet
show me when youve been towny. I havent seen it or felt it. I just see you slanking about globbing onto other peoples pushes. When have you pushed someone regardless of what someone else thinks?

And I would not consider my activity levels "slanking"

Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:36 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:34 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:32 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:31 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:29 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:03 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 2:50 am [VOTE: party crasher] aubergine

From my detached point of view, the hydra is the slot most responsible for dictating the direction of the thread right now. Also from my detached point of view, the thread is not in a great state right now. If PC is town, this vote should be taken as a word of caution. If PC is not town, then look at me go.
PC is not town if they keep pushing this anti town agenda. There is no way town can come together into a proper discussion while tutuu is ruining town wim and causing a rift between everyone but they are likely 3p going off when other people said. She just wants to murder me so we ignore her and find the wolves
I think when you're caught up you will not find this to be true
she has decided I am mafia and will not re-evaluate and is attacking me whenever I try to talk to anyone regardless of if she is involved or not. She is causing a thread state that is combative and not inclusive to people who want to avoid that kind of vibe. It also pushes away any collaborative thought. And you, my current mafia vibe, tells me what I know to be true as untrue? Interesting.
Rondo I feel like you're really disconnected from the thread if you sincerely havent found me town yet
show me when youve been towny. I havent seen it or felt it. I just see you slanking about globbing onto other peoples pushes. When have you pushed someone regardless of what someone else thinks?
I warned mac of alison day 1 without anybody's help or thoughts

I've maintained golden town despite PC Poe'ing him earlier today

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:34 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:32 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:31 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:29 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:03 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 2:50 am [VOTE: party crasher] aubergine

From my detached point of view, the hydra is the slot most responsible for dictating the direction of the thread right now. Also from my detached point of view, the thread is not in a great state right now. If PC is town, this vote should be taken as a word of caution. If PC is not town, then look at me go.
PC is not town if they keep pushing this anti town agenda. There is no way town can come together into a proper discussion while tutuu is ruining town wim and causing a rift between everyone but they are likely 3p going off when other people said. She just wants to murder me so we ignore her and find the wolves
I think when you're caught up you will not find this to be true
she has decided I am mafia and will not re-evaluate and is attacking me whenever I try to talk to anyone regardless of if she is involved or not. She is causing a thread state that is combative and not inclusive to people who want to avoid that kind of vibe. It also pushes away any collaborative thought. And you, my current mafia vibe, tells me what I know to be true as untrue? Interesting.
Rondo I feel like you're really disconnected from the thread if you sincerely havent found me town yet
show me when youve been towny. I havent seen it or felt it. I just see you slanking about globbing onto other peoples pushes. When have you pushed someone regardless of what someone else thinks?

I warned mac of alison day 1 without anybody's help or thoughts

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 11:46 pm I did other things but they ended up being useless / hitting dead people so I didnt really talk about them

Will you elaborate on what you did despite it being useless

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:31 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:29 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:03 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 2:50 am [VOTE: party crasher] aubergine

From my detached point of view, the hydra is the slot most responsible for dictating the direction of the thread right now. Also from my detached point of view, the thread is not in a great state right now. If PC is town, this vote should be taken as a word of caution. If PC is not town, then look at me go.
PC is not town if they keep pushing this anti town agenda. There is no way town can come together into a proper discussion while tutuu is ruining town wim and causing a rift between everyone but they are likely 3p going off when other people said. She just wants to murder me so we ignore her and find the wolves
I think when you're caught up you will not find this to be true
she has decided I am mafia and will not re-evaluate and is attacking me whenever I try to talk to anyone regardless of if she is involved or not. She is causing a thread state that is combative and not inclusive to people who want to avoid that kind of vibe. It also pushes away any collaborative thought. And you, my current mafia vibe, tells me what I know to be true as untrue? Interesting.

Rondo I feel like you're really disconnected from the thread if you sincerely havent found me town yet

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:28 am
Party Crasher wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 5:16 am Ok so Enders role mechanically doesnt make sense to be mafia Golden because

1) its incredibly pro town

See, I'm not sure I agree with this. Assuming I remember correctly:

What we know is:

He gave a gun to scotty, scotty killed Dennis. PoE kill yes, but the whole PoE was town.

He specifically made sure Scotty knew where it came from/got a signpost that he could claim to down in the thread. Scotty got to use the gun

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2023 11:28 pm @Scotty

Did you notice anything happen last night at all?
He gave a gun to sig, sig killed Alison in a hero shot
He gave a gun to Wilgy, Wilgy killed Radishes in a PoE that was stacked with wolves
He gave a suicide vest to Michelle, killing Michelle and no one else in a PoE that was ??? re wolves.
He gave Porscha a non-kill power.

All in all, the outcome of Ender's ability has been pro town, but.

What we don't know is

Is Ender honest about not knowing what he's giving? (t!Ender is being honest. w!Ender is lying).
What Ender's role actually IS (especially given Ender's claim that he doesn't know what he's giving).

Let's imagine a world where Ender is wolf and knows exactly what he's giving, humour me.

1) First gun, he gives to someone who he trusts is likely to shoot into a PoE full of town. And Dennis dies, but Ender is able to begin a campaign for town cred with "hey Scotty, what did I give you?"
2) Second gun, he gives to someone who is known for his unpredictable play, and who could easily and did go for the hero shot. There's a world where that shot takes out Mac or me or something like that.
3) Third gun, he gives to someone else who is known for his unpredictable play, and who could easily go for the hero shot. Wilgy, instead, plays it safe.
4) So Ender goes instead for suicide vest, giving it to a townie who then dies wearing it.
5) And then he gives something that isn't kill power.

Also btw I guess the kills must be used the same night since the guns operated on nights one two and three, but (4) and (5) waited until the next day.

In a world where Ender is wolf, he can choose what he gives, and he's chosen to give guns to people he thinks will shoot town, maybe even towncore. It's a risk, but it's a very high percentage risk to take for town cred.

But as the numbers shift, the gifts become more conservative.

The ability could easily also be used to give a gun to a teammate (he didn't, and that's clean play as wolf or town, but there's inherently that ability involved) - enabling wolves to claim they are hero-shooting and shoot outside PoE without a tonne of risk to Ender himself.

I don't think the role is *inherently* pro town in the event Ender is wolf, particularly because I think in that scenario he knows more.

I appreciate the effort but I'm pretty sure mac killed dennis. Wilgy didnt give a gun to sig at all
This may alter how you witness the history

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:03 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 2:50 am [VOTE: party crasher] aubergine

From my detached point of view, the hydra is the slot most responsible for dictating the direction of the thread right now. Also from my detached point of view, the thread is not in a great state right now. If PC is town, this vote should be taken as a word of caution. If PC is not town, then look at me go.
PC is not town if they keep pushing this anti town agenda. There is no way town can come together into a proper discussion while tutuu is ruining town wim and causing a rift between everyone but they are likely 3p going off when other people said. She just wants to murder me so we ignore her and find the wolves

I think when you're caught up you will not find this to be true

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:01 am Also if you think I have information and I am not sharing it means I am town in your eyes. This is so openwolfing I am voting here [VOTE: Porscha ] aubergine

AcKsHuAlLy mafia and other alignments may also have information the rest of the thread doesnt have and that's why wolves have tmi and towns dont

Having info is in this particular instance is not AI
Your unwillingness to share it is AI

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:20 am
Party Crasher wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 5:16 am Ok so Enders role mechanically doesnt make sense to be mafia Golden because

1) its incredibly pro town
2) it is claimed to be confusing and ender doesnt even understand it (checks out with other town roles being confusing and having half assed descriptions coz nanook was too lazy to write detailed)
3) mafia dont have fakeclaims because radish claimed normal VT and gave up and died. So if ender is mafia, he has played a galaxy brain long con game with having this ridiculous plan of pre emptively fake softing a role that isnt worded properly

Ender has no reason to give these items to town. On n1 he didnt know what it did. He gave scotty a gun. On n2 he could have given a mafia buddy a gun to silently shoot a town, after figuring it iut

I suppose there might be some tinfoil that ender and wilgy are both mafia hm...

Well. Enders role ... By design is just really pro town. Its mowing down the poe. Every night

It could be a mafia, if nook decided to design a mafia role that was pro-town and fooled people into trusting it

But ... Hm. It just seems really far fetched to me

Like Ender being mafia is on the same level of sig being mafia and shooting alison, to me

-t
It could be SK, I didnt read the Neon flip but she was town right? there has to be a 3p killer out there right?

Neon was town and if svs is being truthful then she has kp

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:18 am Wait, did Ender give guns to all of Scotty, sig and Wilgy?

Sig claims to have had his own gun

Wilgy gave his to scotty and wilgy and then when he tried giving a gun to michelle, it turned into a suicide vest, and then last night I got the kp check

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 5:56 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 2:14 am My check in falcon comes back as:

I would like to not tell any of you.

Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 2:14 am I thought about it and decided falcon probably wasnt the best person to check
wait, why the fuck would you check falcon if you arent willing to defend me as town? If I am one of the most hotly contested people in the game and after the flip look even more scummy how on earth do you not windmill slam check my alignment if you have an alignment check?!

Cuz it isnt an alignment check

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 5:27 am I uh losing confidence in my reads lmao

Listen guys i dont wanna be controlling and shit

Im just like doing it for fun + trynna win at the same time

I just think rondo is mafia and we really really really should kill him. I dunno how we take it from there, im not confident enough to say "do this do that" after we kill rondo

-t

Also what do you think of sloonei today

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 5:27 am I uh losing confidence in my reads lmao

Listen guys i dont wanna be controlling and shit

Im just like doing it for fun + trynna win at the same time

I just think rondo is mafia and we really really really should kill him. I dunno how we take it from there, im not confident enough to say "do this do that" after we kill rondo

-t

Understandable
Part of me wants to think rondo isnt wolfing but it's hard to deny the facts that he doesnt bother trying to negate or explain

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 5:05 am
Party Crasher wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 5:04 am GOLDEN IS LOCK TOWN. INNOCENT CHILD

he went from giving up on the game out of tilt, to having his interest resparked after he was surprised i stopped talking smack to him and instead townread. In the span of like 5 minutes. This is not fakeable. I can feel his town vitrol. He was pessimistic and he expected me to continue, i know it.

That being said we have polar opposite reads atm which is NOT GOOD

To be continued

I still have rondo and dizzy as scum. Now i just think its only those two. All my reads still the same, just move golden to town

-t
What is innocent child?

Hold my hand so a wolf doesnt kidnap u

Before I forget, @EnderWiggin how were you so confident wilgy was town by n1? And then I have a second question for you too

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 4:59 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 4:48 pm
Golden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 4:45 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 4:41 pm
Golden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 4:36 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 4:30 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 2:39 pm

Because I wasnt around day 1 when you were and other than that you've hardly posted? Not that I've been the most active player either tbf but that's why I called on you to show up..
Ah, but you see, at least others have found me quite in contention. Plenty have said I'm towny, while plenty have argued I get too much credit from the MR kill. Stating that I'm just spanking and am not around seems to be at least contrary to this as others have shown evidence above of both engaging me and drawing conclusions.
Genuine question to you, coming from the lens that you actually are town (and I still lean towards you are, I’m just not feeling certain).

MR gave up in the thread and basically self-outed. Do you think you don’t shoot him in that scenario if you’re wolf?
I think we are missing a step here.

If I'm scum, I don't give the chance for MR to wiggle out of getting me credit by asking Neon. Hell even if I wanted to save MR for a yeet I don't put the power in another player's ball park.

Further if Neon gives me two options and I say I'll coinflip rather than just shooting my slanky teammate that'd also be suboptimal.

As wolf, I'm either 1. Going harder for the credit or 2. Stalling my teammates death.

There's VERY little scenarios where I do middling shit as W.
Yes, I like this response. So you’re saying the kill would be less clearing for you if the shot was MORE clean?
Yes.

Simply put, from an outside perspective, W Wilgy I don't think ever allows so many variables in the decision to off a teammate or not.
@Porscha - wolf being like 'the shot is townclearing because if I was wolf I wouldn't let MR ruin my shot credit' just felt like such town logic to me.

Yeah I remember reading that one...

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 4:58 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 4:57 am I have seen no responses as to why wilgy should be tr'd
My reason is he shot radish, ender is confident hes town, i tr ender, and i avoid reading wilgy myself as i find it hard + hes always lhf i dunno how u even read him

-t

I read him with love in my heart and fear in my eyes

@EnderWiggin hey I need to ask you something

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