The Syndicate

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 10:22 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 10:05 pm OK maybe I'm an idiot and bad at mafia. I was going to come in and say I don't think it's Rondo.

I'm not going to push anyone or do anything because my reads have been shitty.

I'm quite lost.

why were you going to come in and say you don't think it's rondo?

your point was very good that he could have had TMI on lucy town, or he had nefarious reasons to inexplicably townread her

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 10:18 pm oh yes i forgot to mention

another reason why i think sabi could be mafia is just sheeping lucy

before lucy had a meltdown - her reads all seemed solid (except maybe pyxxy town i forgot if she townread him)

other than that - they all seemed right. she was confident sabi is maf

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 10:14 pm pyxxy could be mafia because he made some posts that made me feel weird as i was reading them. as in, they had sussy parts

he felt out of tune

pyxxy as a villager gets mischopped every game

in hedgehog he got upset after it happened

in here, lets see from his lens if he's town:

u are pyxxy. u are town. u have lucy (who u think is mafia) emulating hedgehog 2.0

and yet, u and lucy are both at 5 votes each. u are competing wagons

and yet?

no emotion from pyxxy. no frustration. no anger

just some goofy out of tune posts

therefore, mafia

NOW

sabi expressed a confident townread on pyxxy

and that, similar to rondo + lucy, makes me feel like going for sabi first is optimal

sabi + pyxxy could be w/w

sabi could be mafia with TMI on pyxxy town

both of those seem reasonable

this is only bad if sabi is town and wrongly townread mafia pyxxy

but i dont wanna believe that. i wanna have faith in ppl that their meta reads on ppl they should know well (and sabi should know pyxxy well) - should be good

ergo, going for sabi before pyxxy makes sense to me

arogame123 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 9:41 pm To all players, I just posted this tentative reads list. I anticipate it isn't perfect but I feel that my POE might contain at least 1-2 scum hopefully...

As I said, Tutuu and Sabi would be the other players I'd look at if I am wrong on at least 2 in my POE.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 8:31 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 8:07 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 7:35 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 1:35 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 1:25 pm If anything the thing I'm having trouble squaring is how arogame and rondo would theoretically be partnered given aro is my scum read and the wagon I am and have been pushing, and so this is an argument for townreading Rondo's actions, but the way it went down during the last bit where you were forced to full claim is just straight up scummy.

Rondo has repeatedly tried to kill the wagon.

Rondo hasn't read lucy post and just confidently townread them even tho behavior is similar to hedgehog.

Hasn't tried to solve lucy and instead sr those pushing on lucy.

What do I get when lucy flips town?

More wrenches. Why dont you care about what we do with and after the flip instead of the flips alignment

What?

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 9:38 pm I am actually super easy to read

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 9:24 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 8:53 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 8:50 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 8:28 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 8:22 pm Ok got to go

In no order

Rondo probably town

Porscha town

Sean probably town

Tutuu probably mafia but im not sure I believe it lol

Kate town

Wwa town

Dennis maybe town

Neon probably town

Still think lucy/aro town

Everyone else is shrugze

How is Kate town?

I'm really good or I have tmi, take your pick

Tell me about pyxxy

Porscha thinks he's mafia and porscha is good at the game

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 7:49 pm Ok im just gonna blow my last post to ask a question given the current wagon situation. I guess I'll stick around for 10-15 min and then I really need to sleep.

Is there anyone who thinks neither Aro nor pyxxy is scum and that we should be looking elsewhere? If so, who, and what are your reasons?

You got about 10 min to give me a compelling case on where to vote, otherwise I'm voting according to what I've already gathered.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 7:48 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 5:52 pm

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 1:12 pm For post game cred the team is aro/nanook/tutuu

your brain is so sexy. I really feel this read rn lol

Does this make sense from the perspective of Tutuu was fanning the Lucy debacle, per Rondo's opinion on that?

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 7:35 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 1:35 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 1:25 pm If anything the thing I'm having trouble squaring is how arogame and rondo would theoretically be partnered given aro is my scum read and the wagon I am and have been pushing, and so this is an argument for townreading Rondo's actions, but the way it went down during the last bit where you were forced to full claim is just straight up scummy.

Rondo has repeatedly tried to kill the wagon.

Rondo hasn't read lucy post and just confidently townread them even tho behavior is similar to hedgehog.

Hasn't tried to solve lucy and instead sr those pushing on lucy.

What do I get when lucy flips town?

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 7:41 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 3:27 pm I feel like sabi focused on the first half of the lucy problem. Rondo saw the second half. I'm kind of surprised rondo didnt sr sabi, or at the very least show suspicion on sabi, for their read on lucy

Eh I didn't want to push sabi at that time. Are you trying to scum read me here without saying it?

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 7:55 pm And mama porscha has been defending me, all hail her glorious reads

arogame123 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 6:02 pm Also @Porscha I see what you mean with potential “opportunistic” from tuutu with their bandwagon, but since then they seemed to bounce around elsewhere and onto other slots? What were ur thoughts there?

arogame123 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 4:52 pm

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:50 pm

arogame123 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:13 pm Hello All! Glad to be here!

I haven’t read much of the game but see my predecessor is in a spot that I am very accustomed to being as well

If the people voting me could respond to this with a tldr of why they sr my slot that would be much appreciated.

I am town and I’ll do my best to get out of this position hehe!

Your slot looks partnered with Tutuu to me. I voted lucy because the AtE was so excessive I thought it exceeded what she would authentically feel like posting. It felt like she was just performatively AtEing either to ruin thread or distance or mby both

Content was okay up to that point but in retrospect it's p damn pockety

Ok, my memory is bad lmfao @Lilypetal

You said tuutu not pxxy.

arogame123 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 5:48 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 5:39 pm ^ this post pretty much why I'm happy to flip aro today regardless of his posts, unfortunately for him. if lucy were to flip town, I will be pushing tutuu immediately. I feel strongly about this more than anything else so far this game and feel it will lead to more information than if we do not flip aro. I have no person I'd rather flip today because it brings less information

Why Tuutu when I flip town?

arogame123 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 3:39 pm [VOTE: Falcon] aubergine

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 3:47 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 3:27 pm I feel like sabi focused on the first half of the lucy problem. Rondo saw the second half. I'm kind of surprised rondo didnt sr sabi, or at the very least show suspicion on sabi, for their read on lucy

Uhhh he has

arogame123 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 3:38 pm Hello, I am back for a bit. Will be a bit on and off and didn’t read too much back but more so just in real-time stuff after I left.

I probably won’t be able to get a full view until like tomorrow or something (that is if I live )

But I do have some thoughts on what I’ve seen/read that I’ll like to share.

My towns are: Wind, Porscha, Rondo, Nook

Town leans on Seanzie, Kate, and Sabi

Null-ish - Tuutu, Lily?

PoE: Falcon/Dennise/Rxxy

I explained on the others but I’ll focus on Nook, Seanzie, and Sabi a bit.

I feel that Nook is getting sr for “nai” nook things esp irt his “lazy” play or way he’s forming scum reads. I also looked over my predecessor’s reads and I also had a similar feeling of Nook that he’s vibing within the game and isn’t to worried about his appearance and just doing his thing. I also felt with how he worked with Porscha wasn’t a “pure” sheep but was just him discussing/bouncing thoughts with Porscha. He’s willing to work with others and figure out where he stands. Nook is town for me and I think it’s likely a mafia or two might be attempting to utilise nai things to sr him or even mischaracterise his play.

Seanzie is an interesting one and a town lean because I like his tone and his approach to his sr have an internal consistency that I view from other games I’ve played with him that he’s very “tunnelled” on certain aspects of people’s games and usually follows more of gamestates to make reads if you will irt my slot and Nooks. The reason tho that Seanzie is a town lean is that his perspective with me/Rondo/Nook isn’t good imo and I’m worried it could be potentially power wolf but I also know seanzie’s reads aren’t like always 100% so I’ll wait and see how that develops, but if he’s town, I have faith.

I briefly thought about it and it seems like Tuutu does have more of a “messy progression” with their jumps between wind/rondo and even my slot which feels that feels “town” to me. The other thing is I tend to feel it’s rand town for players that hyper post and post cape way before eod because it demonstrates a lack of awareness if they’re mafia that they would be more cautious and worrisome about their pc. But in general tuutu feels ok to me. I kept them in null townie because it’s not as confident as others but there are some things there that I can see as townie indicative.

Sabi is an interesting one and despite their scum read on me, I thought about it and I think I can see some “confbias” things from a t!Sabi pov despite the fact their push on me isn’t great. I think the way Sabi handles their push with containing to feel that I am always mafia and is clearly advocating to continue pushing/kill me is actually a good look for them, bc I know as mafia, Sabi is more “low key” and hedges a lot. So I town lean and feel their “micro” wording of their case on me is a townie confbias more likely than not.

Lily is just null for me and I think as the game goes on and she gets more content out there, they’ll be more AI for me to read. I think their vote on me/initial feelings were fair and justified but they’re just firmly null.

I scum read falcon because his approach to voting me and overall play this game is not townie and feels like he’s holding a crutch this game to “sheep” others in order to make votes and to interject within the game to make reads even though he doesn’t have a strong internal conviction within himself about it. I also did note that Wilgy said that falcon hasn’t town told but then didn’t want to kill Falcon today as he’s easier to read down the line, so this could be a potential w/w if falcon is mafia.

Dennise feels lost to me in not a townie way? Like they’re asking people for questions to get in the game but then it doesn’t feel that they’re doing much with it to make concrete reads or push a certain direction. She is one of my least confident sr, so take that as u will.

Pxxy is scummy to me for their approach to my slot as well and especially calling out my questioning of PorCha. They said that I claimed to quote a post that Porscha didn’t know I was in the game and was unjustly questioning her, but Porscha clearly stated “Aro” when discussing about killing me. It just seems like pxxy is attempting to push me for my entrance/approach to the game while also backing and saying “I could see this as town” “maybe this is ok.” And to me, it seems that pxxy is holding themselves back from scum reading me fully with some of their hedgy language. Additionally, I feel their paranoi on Rondo doesn’t come off as genuine to me and is a bit Fluffy to me? Like once again, it feels like it’s fence sitting between two sides and lightly pushing one in order to avoid taking a concrete stance. It feels like that type of refuge audacity one can make to appear “contrarian” but it doesn’t come off as genuine to me.

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 5:52 pm Porscha, you wanting to info flip lucygame but also not voting there is weird
It's like you're trying to set it up to have pyxxy die instead of lucygame

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 1:12 pm For post game cred the team is aro/nanook/tutuu

Dennis wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 10:36 am I also had the idea that if Aro flips town, there could be a wolf in the people who voted lucy at the start of the game when she asked everyone to vote

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 10:22 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 10:10 am

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 9:58 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 9:36 am WindwardAway

Porscha

Lilypetal

Neon
DrWilgy

pyxxy
Sabiplz
tutuu
Dennis

Kate
falcon45ca

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
RondoDimBuckle

lucy/Aro

Wilgy went up a little bit because of some of their most recent posting, but I am still very wary here since I do think this is fakable for them and could be a response to suspicion rather than a natural progression into better games.

Rondo has trended down a lot because a lot of their takes are not great IMO, and could easily be wolf-motivated. They also have done multiple posts that could easily be pocket attempts.

I am a little worried about Dennis and Tutuu as the both have faded into the background a bit, I want to see more from them before EoD if possible.

Pyxxy on the surface looked good this last page, but beyond the surface it felt shallow, so idk if I want to move them away from null.

Kate and Falcon will need to eventually do things that make me feel things. I'mma ISO Kate right now I think to figure out if they're in the right spot here or not.

Tutuu postcapped so I don't think we're seeing more of her before EoD, and she said it would be 4 am for her so I doubt she'll be back for that

But seriously, what am I missing on Rondo? Why is there suddenly a push on him where there wasn't before? Does he powerwolf? Cause im voting pyxxy for pushing Rondo but ignoring nook, but now that you're also saying you think Rondo could be scum, I want to hear what the case is and why it doesn't necessarily come from town.

Rondo's treatment of you was extremely wolfy IMO. Yes, Rondo can high-post and act crazy as a wolf, not saying that is necessarily wolf-indicative for him, but wolf-compatible for sure. Rondo also has some bad takes on people like Porscha, and his post to me saying "are we finally going to be town that agree?" felt pockety, and he did the same thing to someone else.

The push on Rondo IMO has come from how Rondo has treated you mostly, and I think it is justified.

OK but here's the deal, it doesn't make much sense for Rondo to vaguely cc me after I've vaguely claimed because then as a wolf he puts himself at a 1f1 that he almost always loses, because I gave an actual claim in the end. It benefits him absolutely zero to continue to push me after I clarified my claim.

I will say it's a bit weird he would think I scumslipped by claiming "the wrong setup" as he put it, because as scum i would 100% know what the setup is, and trying to mislead the town by claiming the wrong setup is asinine since the town PRs would just condemn me to death in that case. But I don't really think it's wolfy because it *is* a stupid assumption.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 9:12 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 12:12 am @Seanzie, going through your ISO I noticed that you have suspicion on Me, Nook in current, but you also earlier had a suspicion on Kate.

Correct me if I'm wrong here, but I think all 3 of us haven't read the game fully. Do you find that the thread is being generally townie and that would lead to yeeting the slankers?

Is the reason to hit Aerogame the same as it was for Lucy or did that evolve?

My suspicion on Kate was from like Page 1. They haven't really trended up, but as they say, it is now a cold take.

Not having read the game does not excuse not having at least some in-depth content.

I am not ready to give a read of the entire thread - if you actually read my ISO you'd see I have more suspicion than a PoE has room for, so this is not accurate. I'm trying to sort people, and give the opinions that I think people need to see to motivate the game in a productive way. Since I am voting Aro, I am not sure why you'd think I want to particularly yeet slankers.

Did you really read my ISO? Yes, much of my suspicion from Aro has to do with Lucy, and then there is also the benefit of Lucy's slot having generated a lot of conversation, which should lead to a high-info chop. I fully believe that what Aro has done here could be wolf!Aro, even if taken in a vaccuum if I only saw Aro's posts, I'd guess town!Aro, this vaccuum take is not enough to unbalance wolf!Lucy+infochop in terms of where I believe our TK is best spent today.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 12:29 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 4:17 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 3:29 pm Just went through lucy ISO and I can see her as scum here

I don't think town lucy worries this much. There was also one one post where she said something like "since I am town and that means you are playing poorly" which pinged me because we... do not know your alignment. That's like the most basic part of mafia and I think Lucy knows we cannot just let her townlead D1 without a mech clear, and to call it bad play is icky icky

I never see neon/lucy being w/w, or tutuu/lucy being w/w

I'm really sorry if you're town Lucy, but I'm staying here for now

I dont have an issue with her trying to town lead without mech clear, and I've seen town lucy make the exact argument before of "ur wolf siding cuz you're wrong on my alignment" which actually often gets townread by other players who consider it "towny entitlement" but I see here that this never happened. I actually think lucy is thread spewed town here unless wilgy and rondo are at least 1 of her partners, or lucy attempted a bus on sabi that inadvertantly 180'd due to threadstate and was forcibly reversed.

But like I mentioned before. When this many players are scum reading a player, especially day 1... it means either:
1) lucy is now being bussed. Town must now find busses
2) lucy is town and wolves hopped on the train. Town must now find trains

Either way, we have some engines to find here fellas!

So far your ISO has been very insightful on the Lucy kerfuffle.

Because you say Lucy is townspewed at this point with the exception of the AFKs. Am I to think that the entire town was pro yeet Lucy, or was there a more exact large list you have in your head? Is it a feeling that the entire thread was all in on Lucy or was this a factual thing I can reference later?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 12:21 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 3:52 am

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 3:50 am nooks fine, towny even, and he won't be the d1 chop in my village

Tbf if literally anyone tried chopping nook day 1 I'd assume they were wolfing

Did Nook have any significant input at this point in the game?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 12:18 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 3:39 am I cant wait for wilgy to post so I can tinfoil him all game. That's my favorite

Should I be worried about this now or later?

Right out of the gate Porscha is filled with energy and appears to be having fun. I think that this aligns with town Porscha and the read that I saw critical thinking and solving within that thinking holds up.

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 10:50 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 10:45 pm I have successfully distanced myself from you WWA, there is no chance they will find me now.

Gj gj

And I'm gonna shut up and go to sleep so that I actually have posts left before the end of the day instead of squandering them on screenshots and poorly executed role claims

Trying to think if there's anything else I wanna say in this post before signing off

I'm less suspicious of Aro than I was on Lucy, but I'm suspicious of them in a different way cause pocket paranoia. I guess I'll see how my read pans out later in the day.

I won't (or at least hope I won't) be awake this late tomorrow night so I'll probably miss deadline, which is why I do NOT want to postcap so early. I think I have like 15 posts left or something but I can compress most of whatever else I have to say by then into something longer than a one-liner by not quoting every single post that I'm replying to.

Still think seanzie and rondo are town, less sure on nanook but above a null rn. Meaning I need to look at other slots to see if this makes sense or to figure out where I'm going wrong.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 10:37 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 10:32 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 10:30 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 10:24 pm

arogame123 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 10:21 pm what differentiates lazy Nook as mafia vs lazy nook as town?

I’ve seen Nook more laid back and trolly as town more often than not.

Nook is trying to find an excuse to sheep someone to remove culpability for their actions, and again, they aren't actually being "laid back and trolly", they're taking pot shots.

So join me on nook instead of lucy who I town read atm?

Btw your lucy townread said she would never flip nook day 1

So? Porscha + Nook up

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:54 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:26 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:24 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:22 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:19 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:14 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:12 pm currently at WWA + Nook + Tutuu

Meaning

Town?

Dennis - Sure, in town range
DrWilgy - Dunno
falcon45ca - Town range but hasnt obv towned yet
Kate - Dont even remember reading any of her posts
Lilypetal - Can be in town range but not feeling it
lucy - Sure, in town range
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Neon - Maybe the Sabi / Lucy / Neon blow out was just fanned on by tutuu?
Porscha - Hrmmm, obv town? Maybe, Town for now
pyxxy - Town if WWA flips wolf but likely town for making me laugh
RondoDimBuckle - 3p but my wincon can work with town
Sabiplz - see Neon
Seanzie - Town lol
tutuu -
WindwardAway

I will flip town and I will do my best to eat the night kill in this game

Then why do I have 2 lists and you have 0. I havent even checked your ISO but I know you havent done any actual solving. Just poking. If you want to eat the night kill you have to be town leader. If you want to be town leader you have to rally town with your solving. If you want to rally town, you actually have to do solving. Ergo. This is a lie.

I'm a town PR, lay off me. I'll get killed anyway.

A) No you're not. I know this
B) I am voting Nook you're coming next
C) No I will not lay off anyone. Ask anyone who knows me

OK well, fine but mafia has a jailkeeper in this game. Have fun with the TMI from me.

...how do you know this?

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 10:30 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 10:24 pm

arogame123 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 10:21 pm what differentiates lazy Nook as mafia vs lazy nook as town?

I’ve seen Nook more laid back and trolly as town more often than not.

Nook is trying to find an excuse to sheep someone to remove culpability for their actions, and again, they aren't actually being "laid back and trolly", they're taking pot shots.

So join me on nook instead of lucy who I town read atm?

arogame123 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:15 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:07 pm @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME sorry daddy I dont actually expect my vote to stay on pyxxy

Probs still best to flip aro

Why is it best to flip me Porscha?

Would you not be open to what I have to say and whether or not that would change your mindset on my slot? I can’t control what happened in the past but can only go from here.

Would like to hear ur thoughts/response when u get the chance.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:07 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:07 pm @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME sorry daddy I dont actually expect my vote to stay on pyxxy

Probs still best to flip aro

Why do you want to flip a town slot by pinging a wolf?

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 8:26 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 6:53 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 6:17 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 4:17 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 3:29 pm Just went through lucy ISO and I can see her as scum here

I don't think town lucy worries this much. There was also one one post where she said something like "since I am town and that means you are playing poorly" which pinged me because we... do not know your alignment. That's like the most basic part of mafia and I think Lucy knows we cannot just let her townlead D1 without a mech clear, and to call it bad play is icky icky

I never see neon/lucy being w/w, or tutuu/lucy being w/w

I'm really sorry if you're town Lucy, but I'm staying here for now

I dont have an issue with her trying to town lead without mech clear, and I've seen town lucy make the exact argument before of "ur wolf siding cuz you're wrong on my alignment" which actually often gets townread by other players who consider it "towny entitlement" but I see here that this never happened. I actually think lucy is thread spewed town here unless wilgy and rondo are at least 1 of her partners, or lucy attempted a bus on sabi that inadvertantly 180'd due to threadstate and was forcibly reversed.

But like I mentioned before. When this many players are scum reading a player, especially day 1... it means either:
1) lucy is now being bussed. Town must now find busses
2) lucy is town and wolves hopped on the train. Town must now find trains

Either way, we have some engines to find here fellas!

explain this one

What about my explanation needs explaining

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 6:37 pm I am not sure if I like Porscha speaking on my behalf and using that to push Lucy, only reason I am not town reading her

anyway time to dip, probably wont post more till tomorrow

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 6:17 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 4:17 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 3:29 pm Just went through lucy ISO and I can see her as scum here

I don't think town lucy worries this much. There was also one one post where she said something like "since I am town and that means you are playing poorly" which pinged me because we... do not know your alignment. That's like the most basic part of mafia and I think Lucy knows we cannot just let her townlead D1 without a mech clear, and to call it bad play is icky icky

I never see neon/lucy being w/w, or tutuu/lucy being w/w

I'm really sorry if you're town Lucy, but I'm staying here for now

I dont have an issue with her trying to town lead without mech clear, and I've seen town lucy make the exact argument before of "ur wolf siding cuz you're wrong on my alignment" which actually often gets townread by other players who consider it "towny entitlement" but I see here that this never happened. I actually think lucy is thread spewed town here unless wilgy and rondo are at least 1 of her partners, or lucy attempted a bus on sabi that inadvertantly 180'd due to threadstate and was forcibly reversed.

But like I mentioned before. When this many players are scum reading a player, especially day 1... it means either:
1) lucy is now being bussed. Town must now find busses
2) lucy is town and wolves hopped on the train. Town must now find trains

Either way, we have some engines to find here fellas!

explain this one

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 6:21 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 6:17 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 6:15 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 6:02 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 6:01 pm So... Now Kate has disappeared off your readlist?

yes - why does this matter so much wolf?

whatchu gonna do about it? vote me?

Because unlike some people, I like keeping tabs on everyone else's read progressions. If I spot a discrepancy you can bet I'm gonna ask you why it's there.

Oh yeah tough girl? And what if I don't wanna answer? Whatchu gonna do then? Cry to mama?

Im less interested in what your read on Kate is and more interested in how your tiering system works, because it seems your nullreads include both the people you have no opinion on, and the people you previously had a read on but dropped it. I get that you've had Neon and Lucy in your scumreads and that Kate is probably tiered above both of them, but it kind of feels like every time you cement a scumread you push another one out, which is... kinda weird because I think it's better to have too many scumreads than too few, if you know what I mean. I just don't really get how that works, but if it works for you, whatever. Apparently I'm not allowed to get into your head space so I'll just continue not to have a solid read on you.

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 4:47 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 4:45 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 4:43 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 4:42 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 4:41 pm one thing all you fuckers have missed is that i never ever get bussed, i am simply too strong and i don't let teammates treat me that way and it turns out well

there is just no rational incentive for me to play this game further and i have no wim here, i gotta get chopped d1 and it should never be tutuu d1 even thought she's a wolf

that's one way hedgehog fucked up in, i HAD to be resolved to clarify gamestate, same thing here except i'm town so it benefits town here and i should always be chopped etc etc

Yes. Congratulations. Your theory and life has won us valuable information. Die mad and be proud about it in your grave.

you played horribly

had this not happened i'd get n1ed

You dont know that, you only think that. I am by far the most IC player in the thread right now. If the wolves dont think they will hit a PR , they will NK whoever has the best reads or is impossible to ML. There are no guarantees. You will not sway me with your moodiness when I'm in the fact the only person who has bothered to stand up for you at all this game. Leave me alone.

you pushed me, i'm holding you accountable for your actions in destroying the gamestate and forcing my chop

you are not blameless, i don't care about what you feel because these are objective facts