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by Porscha
Thu Feb 01, 2024 7:04 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Game of Champions: West Facility (Night 2)
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Re: Game of Champions: West Facility (Day 2)

Epignosis wrote: Thu Feb 01, 2024 7:03 pm
Porscha wrote: Thu Feb 01, 2024 6:57 pm I saw epi a few bosts above also weakly accuse me of "shutting down" conversation which i have made it super clear that was not what i was trying to do
And what does this mean about me?
There isnt a hidden secondary meaning, it means I disagree with your analysis of what I said
by Porscha
Thu Feb 01, 2024 7:03 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Game of Champions: West Facility (Night 2)
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Views: 10266

Re: Game of Champions: West Facility (Day 2)

Seanzie wrote: Thu Feb 01, 2024 9:43 am @Porscha talk to me about Sig.
Like what, exactly?
by Porscha
Thu Feb 01, 2024 6:57 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Game of Champions: West Facility (Night 2)
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Views: 10266

Re: Game of Champions: West Facility (Day 2)

It would have been very easy for me to not give a shit or bring up that i kind of expect a wolf to be hiding in the pyxxy analysis event it I was a wolf

A lot of people accused me of side lining as wolfy, and the moment i give a take that is unconventional, thats also wolfy lol

Just ask yourselves, why would a wolf do anything Ive done

I saw epi a few bosts above also weakly accuse me of "shutting down" conversation which i have made it super clear that was not what i was trying to do
by Porscha
Thu Feb 01, 2024 6:54 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Game of Champions: West Facility (Night 2)
Replies: 1261
Views: 10266

Re: Game of Champions: West Facility (Day 1)

leetic wrote: Thu Feb 01, 2024 6:53 pm
Porscha wrote: Thu Feb 01, 2024 6:50 pm
Seanzie wrote: Thu Feb 01, 2024 9:28 am
Porscha wrote: Thu Feb 01, 2024 1:03 am
Seanzie wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2024 2:37 pm
sig wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2024 12:49 pm
leetic wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2024 12:13 am While Epi is working on his analyses of the player interactions, I'll start to work on mine so that they won't be biased by his. Not gonna look at N0, since it's a bunch of crap and pyxxy did jack there anyways.



Not a mention of pyxxy but the Daisy stuff looks odd in hindsight. What "playstyle" was she demonstrating by just posting one NGR post saying she's busy and then dipping?



No mentions of pyxxy until this last-minute vote. Like I said before, this looks like so obviously a bus that I doubt a player who's been around as long as Sig would actually go for it. Saying his townreads are on pyxxy does seem like a way to pass the buck, so I guess that's one small point against them being aligned, but it's still such a convenient excuse that I can't rule them out being wolf overall.
She (Daisy) was around or so I thought, just lurking more. This was in line with how she played Baby Muppet where we were both mafia together. So I was thinking that was her approach here. Given that she was mod killed and flipped town it's now pretty clear she ended up not having the time to play.

Yea Pyxxy wasn't really on my radar, but I didn't want to not vote so i joined the wagon :shrug:

Having said that I did think I had more time to review, buuuuut, I probably wasn't going to hard push anyone. I don't have any really solid mafia reads or really even that many lock towns so I'm taking a more back seat approach for the time being.
For the record, it looks like Daisy was shot, not modkilled. Possibly a lurker vig.
oh I think I get it lol
What do you think you get?
I'll just say i agree with you that it wasnt mod kill
The OP says "killed D2" instead of "modkilled D2" if that means anything
Yeah i know exactly what happened actually, i had just assumed it was mod kill before i realized what exactly occurred
by Porscha
Thu Feb 01, 2024 6:53 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Game of Champions: West Facility (Night 2)
Replies: 1261
Views: 10266

Re: Game of Champions: West Facility (Day 2)

I really dont think I have been mean or unreasonable in having an AI take on the topic but also Im generally a lot more agreeable as a wolf so whatever sean is on about wolf me being mean is at best me trying to emulate town me who is generally more aggressive because i believe what im saying
by Porscha
Thu Feb 01, 2024 6:50 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Game of Champions: West Facility (Night 2)
Replies: 1261
Views: 10266

Re: Game of Champions: West Facility (Day 1)

Seanzie wrote: Thu Feb 01, 2024 9:28 am
Porscha wrote: Thu Feb 01, 2024 1:03 am
Seanzie wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2024 2:37 pm
sig wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2024 12:49 pm
leetic wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2024 12:13 am While Epi is working on his analyses of the player interactions, I'll start to work on mine so that they won't be biased by his. Not gonna look at N0, since it's a bunch of crap and pyxxy did jack there anyways.
sig wrote: Sun Jan 28, 2024 12:20 pm I’ll add to the scrappy doo stuff some more.

As already said they were a sock third party. The owner lucy had some goal that I can’t remember now, but it did have voting power and could be killed.

Also falcon was on my team that game not TSP.


I like LC train of thought on the secret Santa thing, that seems very much within his town meta.

Epi is a gut town read.

I’m liking Abigail posts even though she’s creating a town core :p

I’m eyeing Daisy right now, her play style right now reminds me of muppets, where she was present but a bit flatflooted being mafia.
Not a mention of pyxxy but the Daisy stuff looks odd in hindsight. What "playstyle" was she demonstrating by just posting one NGR post saying she's busy and then dipping?
sig wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2024 7:59 pm I like the Sean case from LC, but I see he and the rest of my town reads are on Pyxxy so I’ll be sheeping that for right now as I catch up and all

[VOTE: Pyxxy] aubergine
No mentions of pyxxy until this last-minute vote. Like I said before, this looks like so obviously a bus that I doubt a player who's been around as long as Sig would actually go for it. Saying his townreads are on pyxxy does seem like a way to pass the buck, so I guess that's one small point against them being aligned, but it's still such a convenient excuse that I can't rule them out being wolf overall.
She (Daisy) was around or so I thought, just lurking more. This was in line with how she played Baby Muppet where we were both mafia together. So I was thinking that was her approach here. Given that she was mod killed and flipped town it's now pretty clear she ended up not having the time to play.

Yea Pyxxy wasn't really on my radar, but I didn't want to not vote so i joined the wagon :shrug:

Having said that I did think I had more time to review, buuuuut, I probably wasn't going to hard push anyone. I don't have any really solid mafia reads or really even that many lock towns so I'm taking a more back seat approach for the time being.
For the record, it looks like Daisy was shot, not modkilled. Possibly a lurker vig.
oh I think I get it lol
What do you think you get?
I'll just say i agree with you that it wasnt mod kill
by Porscha
Thu Feb 01, 2024 7:03 am
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Game of Champions: West Facility (Night 2)
Replies: 1261
Views: 10266

Re: Game of Champions: West Facility (Day 2)

like I literally said your reads come off as authentic, so therefore your conclusions are agreeable and not worth being scumread for
by Porscha
Thu Feb 01, 2024 7:02 am
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Game of Champions: West Facility (Night 2)
Replies: 1261
Views: 10266

Re: Game of Champions: West Facility (Day 2)

Ricochet wrote: Thu Feb 01, 2024 7:02 am
Porscha wrote: Thu Feb 01, 2024 6:52 am keep it up rico. you're doing amazing. I appreciate the simplicity of your analysis and your reads come off as authentic to me
look, let's just leave it at that. I finished the deed, it's whatever, I require neither acclaim nor downplaying.
you disagree with the angle and the effort, that's fine for you to do. Give me minus points, but reason as to whether you wolfread me on the substance of my writing or conclusions.
I wasn't being sarcastic, that was genuine
by Porscha
Thu Feb 01, 2024 7:02 am
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Game of Champions: West Facility (Night 2)
Replies: 1261
Views: 10266

Re: Game of Champions: West Facility (Day 2)

do kinda think it would be a tad silly for abbi to let cait get nk n1 when cait also tr'd her, so that remains a point in her favor
by Porscha
Thu Feb 01, 2024 7:01 am
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Game of Champions: West Facility (Night 2)
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Views: 10266

Re: Game of Champions: West Facility (Day 2)

also not that i'm throwing in the masonry towel here but abi love to bus and pyxxy was ripe and bussable, so

wouldn't like entirely discount that idea if we start making other flips and failing to nail wolves
by Porscha
Thu Feb 01, 2024 7:00 am
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Game of Champions: West Facility (Night 2)
Replies: 1261
Views: 10266

Re: Game of Champions: West Facility (Day 2)

I respect your analysis but as someone who likes to help, you can remove me entirely from being partnered with pyxxy lmao

It's valid for me to think wolf pyxxy doesn't play the way he did with the posts I saw. I have never seen wolf pyxxy exhibit such behavior

I assume me arguing that redundancy on the matter is really what sky rocketed me to the top(bottom?) of that list - see what I said recently and let me know if you think it's valid please
by Porscha
Thu Feb 01, 2024 6:55 am
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Game of Champions: West Facility (Night 2)
Replies: 1261
Views: 10266

Re: Game of Champions: West Facility (Day 2)

sufficiently squinted, good sir
by Porscha
Thu Feb 01, 2024 6:53 am
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Game of Champions: West Facility (Night 2)
Replies: 1261
Views: 10266

Re: Game of Champions: West Facility (Day 2)

^ yes, while true, it is also a pocket

gotta make sure that snake leetic doesnt accidentally pocket you with "analysis in mafia is good, actually" arguments to someone who was never making that argument
by Porscha
Thu Feb 01, 2024 6:52 am
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Game of Champions: West Facility (Night 2)
Replies: 1261
Views: 10266

Re: Game of Champions: West Facility (Day 2)

keep it up rico. you're doing amazing. I appreciate the simplicity of your analysis and your reads come off as authentic to me
by Porscha
Thu Feb 01, 2024 6:51 am
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Game of Champions: West Facility (Night 2)
Replies: 1261
Views: 10266

Re: Game of Champions: West Facility (Day 2)

leetic wrote: Thu Feb 01, 2024 3:39 am
Porscha wrote: Thu Feb 01, 2024 3:32 am maybe the issue is that the phrase "waste of time" is throwing you guys off. I mean it's laughably redundant.
Having multiple perspectives on this avoids confirmation bias and makes it less likely only wolves are leading the discussion. It also holds the analysts as accountable as anyone else and allows us to get information by comparing where the analyses agree and disagree. What useful stuff are you doing right now besides trying to shut down other people's efforts?
it also allows a wolf to just push a narrative since all the town are doing the exact same thing and nobody can really tell anything apart from the other guy's. you mean to tell me, that god forbid we make it to day 7 or something, you're going to go back to the other 3's iso's from today and search and find every single post they made about analyzing pyxxy, the guy who died day 1 with almost no spew, and then also act like it will mean something that far into the game when we have so many other flips and so much other spew, that nothing is really worth being held accountable for because so many changes have occurred that a lack of change in stance or evaluation would be almost unthinkable?

come on now. this game of champs. I dont know who you think you are fooling with this white knighting of <not specifically rico> but the group. the group doesnt need your defense, and you didn't even specifically defend rico, so what are you doing? just finding something to argue about because it's easy to argue the validity of doing analysis? yeah, it's mega easy to do that. it requires no critical thought. I very specifically stated that I think there is a likelihood that a wolf would be doing what the other town are doing to blend in and appear like they are doing something and being helpful - and you can't argue that, because a town wouldn't know and a wolf would never just admit it. You can argue analysis is good. I'm not saying analysis is bad. So you're arguing against nothing.

Tell me every single person who has participated in the great pyxxy-ing is town and tell me why. And if you strawman me one more fucking time, I'm really going to McLose it. So why don't you construct a real argument that shows me you actually care and have any REAL suspicions of something worth considering - because so far, all you have done is throw over baked suspicion at literally anything you hope might stick to the wall. You're performatively cranky, performatively suspicious, trying to latch onto me because you think you can dodge my real concern and strawman the argument into being about the objective validity of analysis - which was never my argument or conversation. And I think you know that. And if you didnt - you do now.

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@leetic
by Porscha
Thu Feb 01, 2024 6:39 am
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Game of Champions: West Facility (Night 2)
Replies: 1261
Views: 10266

Re: Game of Champions: West Facility (Day 2)

therefore, I would perhaps consider the argument that you might squint your eyes at me for saying it as a means performance, to appear town. but you didnt, because you don't actually believe what you're saying, you just found a random remark to grab onto because you can make a level 0 argument that a town ... what did you call it? "second guess" (no I didnt - I said it out loud with no second guessing or confusion) what makes them look wolfy.

wolves have no incentive to look wolfy in the thread. you know that. I know that. we all know that. so why are you trying to push a super fake narrative? lmao
by Porscha
Thu Feb 01, 2024 6:36 am
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Game of Champions: West Facility (Night 2)
Replies: 1261
Views: 10266

Re: Game of Champions: West Facility (Day 2)

it goes so far to bleed into the idea that there is no way to be a good towny because you can just do fuck off whatever and never question it or yourself just because you got a green role card lmao. which is objectively incorrect
by Porscha
Thu Feb 01, 2024 6:35 am
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Game of Champions: West Facility (Night 2)
Replies: 1261
Views: 10266

Re: Game of Champions: West Facility (Day 2)

anyway, still a bad faith argument to assume someone who rands town isnt aware of when they look bad or when they do something hypocritical or when they say or do something that looks wolfy. like that implies being town means you have literally zero self awareness as a human who knows how to play the game of mafia, honestly, it almost implies one simply has zero self awareness, which is blatantly not true of most people and players
by Porscha
Thu Feb 01, 2024 6:34 am
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Game of Champions: West Facility (Night 2)
Replies: 1261
Views: 10266

Re: Game of Champions: West Facility (Day 2)

leetic wrote: Thu Feb 01, 2024 3:19 am
Porscha wrote: Thu Feb 01, 2024 2:51 am
Ricochet wrote: Thu Feb 01, 2024 2:39 am Porscha - pyxxy

#315 GTH's pyxxy as town / 3p
#363 inquired by Sloonei, reads pyxxy out of wolf meta range
#389 replies to an Abigail take on pyxxy town play to further state pyxxy's playstate is kinda NAI
#886 reply to pyxxy's profiling of the Scrappy sock

pyxxy - Porscha

no direct exchange

===

Likelikhood: possible in principle. More concerning, in fact, that she dropped any focus and take on pyxxy late-phase than that she wrote early-phase in support of their range not being wolfy.

Wolf-frame: a bit too much of vocal downplaying of a teammate's wolfrange, but who knows. There was no strong pressure on pyxxy at that stage, in theory could have tried to sway others' pings.

Town-frame or nonaligned-frame: bit of egg on face in hindsight. Can happen.
I think if anybody paid attention they'd realize I was never in thread after pyxxy decided to post more than 3 times

and the wolfiest thing I've done is call sig wolfy for giving brad a 3p read when I gave pyxxy a 3p read but nobody seemed to catch that so whatever
What townie is second guessing things that make them look wolfy like that? [VOTE: Porscha] aubergine
oh lmao you actually did vote me. that's pretty funny
by Porscha
Thu Feb 01, 2024 4:41 am
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Game of Champions: West Facility (Night 2)
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Views: 10266

Re: Game of Champions: West Facility (Day 2)

leetic wrote: Thu Feb 01, 2024 4:35 am Like I don't believe that town!Porscha just shows up, trashes the contributions of everyone, and does nothing else. The weird comment about how nobody notices what is supposedly "truly" wolfy about her does not help her case.
1) I absolutely did not "trash the contributions of everyone"
2) I have not done nothing else
3) no wolf just voluntarily points out an argument that could be made against them for free

you're just making shit up.
by Porscha
Thu Feb 01, 2024 4:40 am
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Topic: Game of Champions: West Facility (Night 2)
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Views: 10266

Re: Game of Champions: West Facility (Day 2)

leetic wrote: Thu Feb 01, 2024 4:33 am
Porscha wrote: Thu Feb 01, 2024 3:54 am [VOTE: Leetic] aubergine

blow me tbh
Nice OMGUS you have there
this isn't omgus b/c you dont suspect me

i'm just "doing something about it"
by Porscha
Thu Feb 01, 2024 4:01 am
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Game of Champions: West Facility (Night 2)
Replies: 1261
Views: 10266

Re: Game of Champions: West Facility (Day 2)

Porscha wrote: Thu Feb 01, 2024 3:58 am
Ricochet wrote: Thu Feb 01, 2024 3:56 am I will finish Sloonei and TSP later, tardy as it may be. Have to head to work. Enjoyment dipped hard as well, tbh. "Why you play like this, you should play instead like so and/or do in one post" is not cool to hear.
rico it isn't about you

its about all 4 people doing what they are doing
like if that's *really* what you want to do then just dont listen to my opinion on it. I can't nor will I try to stop you. but I dont particularly think all 4 of the people dabbling in this endeavor are town for it. i'm sorry you got the brunt force of the conversation, but I didnt mean it personally and I dont want to discourage you from playing how you would like to play
by Porscha
Thu Feb 01, 2024 3:58 am
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Game of Champions: West Facility (Night 2)
Replies: 1261
Views: 10266

Re: Game of Champions: West Facility (Day 2)

Ricochet wrote: Thu Feb 01, 2024 3:56 am I will finish Sloonei and TSP later, tardy as it may be. Have to head to work. Enjoyment dipped hard as well, tbh. "Why you play like this, you should play instead like so and/or do in one post" is not cool to hear.
rico it isn't about you

its about all 4 people doing what they are doing
by Porscha
Thu Feb 01, 2024 3:54 am
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Game of Champions: West Facility (Night 2)
Replies: 1261
Views: 10266

Re: Game of Champions: West Facility (Day 2)

[VOTE: Leetic] aubergine

blow me tbh
by Porscha
Thu Feb 01, 2024 3:49 am
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Game of Champions: West Facility (Night 2)
Replies: 1261
Views: 10266

Re: Game of Champions: West Facility (Day 2)

leetic wrote: Thu Feb 01, 2024 3:40 am
Porscha wrote: Thu Feb 01, 2024 3:37 am
leetic wrote: Thu Feb 01, 2024 3:36 am
Porscha wrote: Thu Feb 01, 2024 3:33 am
leetic wrote: Thu Feb 01, 2024 3:20 am
Porscha wrote: Thu Feb 01, 2024 2:55 am has all 3-4 of you who quote the same 10 posts from him and spend time control+f'ing 13 other players in the game gotten us anywhere? it's been over 24 hours. let's be honest with ourselves
And what are you gonna do about it?
like, do you think every single person doing it is town? why aren't you suspicious of this one thing for once?
As I said, what are you going to do about it?
why are you pushing me in this stupid and pointless manner?
Oh yeah, that's another question I should have asked you. Thanks for the pointer!
aight guess i'm just the fucking idiot then, whatever
by Porscha
Thu Feb 01, 2024 3:37 am
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Game of Champions: West Facility (Night 2)
Replies: 1261
Views: 10266

Re: Game of Champions: West Facility (Day 2)

leetic wrote: Thu Feb 01, 2024 3:36 am
Porscha wrote: Thu Feb 01, 2024 3:33 am
leetic wrote: Thu Feb 01, 2024 3:20 am
Porscha wrote: Thu Feb 01, 2024 2:55 am has all 3-4 of you who quote the same 10 posts from him and spend time control+f'ing 13 other players in the game gotten us anywhere? it's been over 24 hours. let's be honest with ourselves
And what are you gonna do about it?
like, do you think every single person doing it is town? why aren't you suspicious of this one thing for once?
As I said, what are you going to do about it?
why are you pushing me in this stupid and pointless manner?
by Porscha
Thu Feb 01, 2024 3:33 am
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Game of Champions: West Facility (Night 2)
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Views: 10266

Re: Game of Champions: West Facility (Day 2)

leetic wrote: Thu Feb 01, 2024 3:20 am
Porscha wrote: Thu Feb 01, 2024 2:55 am has all 3-4 of you who quote the same 10 posts from him and spend time control+f'ing 13 other players in the game gotten us anywhere? it's been over 24 hours. let's be honest with ourselves
And what are you gonna do about it?
like, do you think every single person doing it is town? why aren't you suspicious of this one thing for once?
by Porscha
Thu Feb 01, 2024 3:32 am
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Game of Champions: West Facility (Night 2)
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Views: 10266

Re: Game of Champions: West Facility (Day 2)

maybe the issue is that the phrase "waste of time" is throwing you guys off. I mean it's laughably redundant.
by Porscha
Thu Feb 01, 2024 3:30 am
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Topic: Game of Champions: West Facility (Night 2)
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Views: 10266

Re: Game of Champions: West Facility (Day 2)

leetic wrote: Thu Feb 01, 2024 3:20 am
Porscha wrote: Thu Feb 01, 2024 2:55 am has all 3-4 of you who quote the same 10 posts from him and spend time control+f'ing 13 other players in the game gotten us anywhere? it's been over 24 hours. let's be honest with ourselves
And what are you gonna do about it?
bitch and moan and scumread people for it for the next 3 in game days
by Porscha
Thu Feb 01, 2024 3:28 am
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Topic: Game of Champions: West Facility (Night 2)
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Views: 10266

Re: Game of Champions: West Facility (Day 2)

Ricochet wrote: Thu Feb 01, 2024 3:06 am
Porscha wrote: Thu Feb 01, 2024 2:53 am
additionally pyxxy was quite clearly in antispew disregarding his sean comment so why are like 4 of you wasting all this time and energy on a nothingburger wolf flip?
Porscha wrote: Thu Feb 01, 2024 2:55 am has all 3-4 of you who quote the same 10 posts from him and spend time control+f'ing 13 other players in the game gotten us anywhere? it's been over 24 hours. let's be honest with ourselves
Porscha wrote: Thu Feb 01, 2024 2:57 am it hasn't done much since delta had a reasonable response that nobody can actually argue against, it's giving a low reason to push falcon when falcon's wolfiest play was from n0 and day 1 anyway, so that's been pretty useless

anything else actually useful from the pyxxy scientists? not that I can see
Profiling a pyxxy teammate may be difficult to pursue, by all means, but it's legit after a flip and worth attempting. "4 of us" doing it is further testament to the legitimacy.

I'm not even looking into what pyxxy themselves might have spewed, I'm looking into others' takes, interactions and votes on pyxxy. You are either getting wrong or misconstruing this activity, mine at least.

Re: 24 hours, I've worked 11 and slept a combined 9 of those over two nights. I've been honest both what I want to do, begin of EoD, but also how hampered I've been.

I haven't even finished the ISOs and yet feels like interjecting and downplaying the entire endeavour. From a player who went twice at length to say pyxxy is not within wolf range, only to now say ehh what's the big deal with this flip. Massive ping.

What was delta's "reasonable response"?
4 people doing the same activity doesnt legitimize it, it makes it a waste of time.

no issue with you getting to it this late cuz of personal timing. just don't see why you'd bother doing the exact same thing 3 other people did instead of like, nit picking what conclusions they made or doing literally anything else. I'm also not saying to NOT read it if you think it's mega important and the other 3 people who did the same thing are just too ??? (wolf? untrustworthy? idk what the issue is) to make it matter. if you really need to read it yourself then do it. just don't get why we have to sit here and make individual posts with such analysis. like, at most just categorize who you think is worth scumming or towning over it in like, 1 post. that's why it comes off as busy work to me.

Delta's response:
Spoiler: show
Delta wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2024 5:44 pm
leetic wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2024 5:42 pm
Delta wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2024 5:41 pm
leetic wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2024 5:39 pm
Delta wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2024 5:37 pm hihi o/ here sorry

@Epignosis the reason I focused pyxxy there is because both games we've been in so far, and now this one, we've been v/w but have hoped for a v/v rand. I joined the mountainous game to play w/ pyxxy again & similar here where my main thought there was "oh if pyxxy is v id like to be some sort of lifeline here"
Why did you not have much comment on the growing pyxxy wagon at EoD?
maybe a little selfish but I was more focused on my own for a second lol

was more trying to work out what was happening with the vote on me to really focus on the fact that pyxxy's wagon grew so much outside of 'hes dead, i dont really want to move there because i feel bad that hes so low energy and dont really want to kick him while hes down' ;O;
What do you think about your wagon in light of the flip?
I do kinda still think it's pure even though its silly to think it

I think since pyxxy's wagon grew to such an extent that it's more likely people moved to bus over staying on me, since it's just wasted cred to park on town instead of shift to a wolf that's allowing themselves to die
Delta wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2024 5:47 pm Porscha/Seanzie/TSP

Porscha is probably town, would give more scrutiny if her whole gameplan is to park town & afk but is what it is for now, Seanzie can be town regardless considering the one point Pyxxy decided to make near EOD is just 'not kill Seanzie' so I kinda want to roll with that for now & TSP I think just takes the Pyxxy vote since I think Scrappy said something that enabled them to move there

so yeah. lol me but probably pure
Delta wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2024 5:50 pm
leetic wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2024 5:48 pm
Delta wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2024 5:47 pm Pyxxy decided to make near EOD is just 'not kill Seanzie' so I kinda want to roll with that for now
Why?
it did kinda seem for a second like he was trying to get into things in hopes of a swing of votes off of him; the read on Seanzie & the vote on you

I think you're probably both town here for it since I dont think a mafia with a last ditch effort to try swing votes off them then tries to push that their teammate is town. better to play it safe and try town a townie to shift votes? :shrug:
Delta wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2024 5:55 pm
leetic wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2024 5:50 pm
Delta wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2024 5:47 pm Porscha/Seanzie/TSP

Porscha is probably town, would give more scrutiny if her whole gameplan is to park town & afk but is what it is for now, Seanzie can be town regardless considering the one point Pyxxy decided to make near EOD is just 'not kill Seanzie' so I kinda want to roll with that for now & TSP I think just takes the Pyxxy vote since I think Scrappy said something that enabled them to move there

so yeah. lol me but probably pure
Also, do your feelings change in light of there likely being two wolf teams?
eh, I saw the mafia/landlords thing but I dont think it's necessarily a multiball thing? unless someone flips with just one or the other

if it is multiball then I guess that changes things for my point around Seanzie & yourself, TSP and Porscha not really?
Delta wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2024 6:16 pm
leetic wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2024 6:04 pm
Delta wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2024 5:58 pm his flip is bean coloured

I dont know if it has anything to do with factions but lol
In Fire and Ice, the factions are typically distinguished by colors. But they also have names, so
makes sense

I dont think I've actually been part of any multiball games so :,) unsure there

If it is multiball, it mainly affects my read on Seanzie/you since there's no guarantee that Pyxxy would know if either of you are town or the other mafia team etc, the other two I dont think change too much
by Porscha
Thu Feb 01, 2024 3:02 am
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Re: Game of Champions: West Facility (Day 2)

Ricochet wrote: Thu Feb 01, 2024 2:58 am
Porscha wrote: Thu Feb 01, 2024 2:51 am
Ricochet wrote: Thu Feb 01, 2024 2:39 am Porscha - pyxxy

#315 GTH's pyxxy as town / 3p
#363 inquired by Sloonei, reads pyxxy out of wolf meta range
#389 replies to an Abigail take on pyxxy town play to further state pyxxy's playstate is kinda NAI
#886 reply to pyxxy's profiling of the Scrappy sock

pyxxy - Porscha

no direct exchange

===

Likelikhood: possible in principle. More concerning, in fact, that she dropped any focus and take on pyxxy late-phase than that she wrote early-phase in support of their range not being wolfy.

Wolf-frame: a bit too much of vocal downplaying of a teammate's wolfrange, but who knows. There was no strong pressure on pyxxy at that stage, in theory could have tried to sway others' pings.

Town-frame or nonaligned-frame: bit of egg on face in hindsight. Can happen.
I think if anybody paid attention they'd realize I was never in thread after pyxxy decided to post more than 3 times

and the wolfiest thing I've done is call sig wolfy for giving brad a 3p read when I gave pyxxy a 3p read but nobody seemed to catch that so whatever
I can check the timeline, but #886 was close to EoD, but also an hour or so away, I think.

Don't get the context of the second line. Who is Brad?
okay well the last post i made day 1 was post like 516 or something so idk what post 886 is

brad is lime coke

n0 sig made a remark after lime coke had made like 4 joking posts, very specifically accusing lime coke of being 3p which was weird to everybody else in thread

but I also thought brad was towny from those posts, so
by Porscha
Thu Feb 01, 2024 2:57 am
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Re: Game of Champions: West Facility (Day 2)

it hasn't done much since delta had a reasonable response that nobody can actually argue against, it's giving a low reason to push falcon when falcon's wolfiest play was from n0 and day 1 anyway, so that's been pretty useless

anything else actually useful from the pyxxy scientists? not that I can see
by Porscha
Thu Feb 01, 2024 2:55 am
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Re: Game of Champions: West Facility (Day 2)

has all 3-4 of you who quote the same 10 posts from him and spend time control+f'ing 13 other players in the game gotten us anywhere? it's been over 24 hours. let's be honest with ourselves
by Porscha
Thu Feb 01, 2024 2:53 am
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Re: Game of Champions: West Facility (Day 2)

Ricochet wrote: Thu Feb 01, 2024 2:42 am
Porscha wrote: Thu Feb 01, 2024 2:29 am then again rico is doing pyxxy spew so that's probs a -1 point
why get a minus for doing these ISOs?
Porscha wrote: Thu Feb 01, 2024 1:28 am i'm not reading pyxxy spew, you guys are just making shit up to do. all copying and saying the same fucking thing. on god lmao what the fuck is going on in here
additionally pyxxy was quite clearly in antispew disregarding his sean comment so why are like 4 of you wasting all this time and energy on a nothingburger wolf flip?
by Porscha
Thu Feb 01, 2024 2:51 am
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Re: Game of Champions: West Facility (Day 2)

Ricochet wrote: Thu Feb 01, 2024 2:39 am Porscha - pyxxy

#315 GTH's pyxxy as town / 3p
#363 inquired by Sloonei, reads pyxxy out of wolf meta range
#389 replies to an Abigail take on pyxxy town play to further state pyxxy's playstate is kinda NAI
#886 reply to pyxxy's profiling of the Scrappy sock

pyxxy - Porscha

no direct exchange

===

Likelikhood: possible in principle. More concerning, in fact, that she dropped any focus and take on pyxxy late-phase than that she wrote early-phase in support of their range not being wolfy.

Wolf-frame: a bit too much of vocal downplaying of a teammate's wolfrange, but who knows. There was no strong pressure on pyxxy at that stage, in theory could have tried to sway others' pings.

Town-frame or nonaligned-frame: bit of egg on face in hindsight. Can happen.
I think if anybody paid attention they'd realize I was never in thread after pyxxy decided to post more than 3 times

and the wolfiest thing I've done is call sig wolfy for giving brad a 3p read when I gave pyxxy a 3p read but nobody seemed to catch that so whatever
by Porscha
Thu Feb 01, 2024 2:29 am
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Re: Game of Champions: West Facility (Day 2)

then again rico is doing pyxxy spew so that's probs a -1 point
by Porscha
Thu Feb 01, 2024 1:55 am
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Re: Game of Champions: West Facility (Day 2)

leetic wrote: Thu Feb 01, 2024 1:35 am
Porscha wrote: Thu Feb 01, 2024 1:33 am I do have a concern. the concern is that LC has been towny to me. weird!
Rank Delta, Sig, Ricochet, and falcon from wolfiest to towniest
I cant really remember anything rico has said or done so no pings so null I guess
delta/sig kinda on same par for me
falcon townier of the list
by Porscha
Thu Feb 01, 2024 1:35 am
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Re: Game of Champions: West Facility (Day 2)

(i always scumread LC)
by Porscha
Thu Feb 01, 2024 1:33 am
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I do have a concern. the concern is that LC has been towny to me. weird!
by Porscha
Thu Feb 01, 2024 1:28 am
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Re: Game of Champions: West Facility (Day 2)

i'm not reading pyxxy spew, you guys are just making shit up to do. all copying and saying the same fucking thing. on god lmao what the fuck is going on in here
by Porscha
Thu Feb 01, 2024 1:26 am
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Re: Game of Champions: West Facility (Day 2)

falcon45ca wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2024 7:49 pm
Porscha wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2024 7:33 pm
Seanzie wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2024 11:43 am Oh, there are a lot of people on Delta... when did that happen?

Meh, not gonna fight it, but I do think Falcon is more likely wolf!Falcon than town!falcon here.
Yeah

It feels like you're just sidelining, with the occasional pot stir






What are your reads right now?
ur mum is a wolf
by Porscha
Thu Feb 01, 2024 1:03 am
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Re: Game of Champions: West Facility (Day 1)

Seanzie wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2024 2:37 pm
sig wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2024 12:49 pm
leetic wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2024 12:13 am While Epi is working on his analyses of the player interactions, I'll start to work on mine so that they won't be biased by his. Not gonna look at N0, since it's a bunch of crap and pyxxy did jack there anyways.
sig wrote: Sun Jan 28, 2024 12:20 pm I’ll add to the scrappy doo stuff some more.

As already said they were a sock third party. The owner lucy had some goal that I can’t remember now, but it did have voting power and could be killed.

Also falcon was on my team that game not TSP.


I like LC train of thought on the secret Santa thing, that seems very much within his town meta.

Epi is a gut town read.

I’m liking Abigail posts even though she’s creating a town core :p

I’m eyeing Daisy right now, her play style right now reminds me of muppets, where she was present but a bit flatflooted being mafia.
Not a mention of pyxxy but the Daisy stuff looks odd in hindsight. What "playstyle" was she demonstrating by just posting one NGR post saying she's busy and then dipping?
sig wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2024 7:59 pm I like the Sean case from LC, but I see he and the rest of my town reads are on Pyxxy so I’ll be sheeping that for right now as I catch up and all

[VOTE: Pyxxy] aubergine
No mentions of pyxxy until this last-minute vote. Like I said before, this looks like so obviously a bus that I doubt a player who's been around as long as Sig would actually go for it. Saying his townreads are on pyxxy does seem like a way to pass the buck, so I guess that's one small point against them being aligned, but it's still such a convenient excuse that I can't rule them out being wolf overall.
She (Daisy) was around or so I thought, just lurking more. This was in line with how she played Baby Muppet where we were both mafia together. So I was thinking that was her approach here. Given that she was mod killed and flipped town it's now pretty clear she ended up not having the time to play.

Yea Pyxxy wasn't really on my radar, but I didn't want to not vote so i joined the wagon :shrug:

Having said that I did think I had more time to review, buuuuut, I probably wasn't going to hard push anyone. I don't have any really solid mafia reads or really even that many lock towns so I'm taking a more back seat approach for the time being.
For the record, it looks like Daisy was shot, not modkilled. Possibly a lurker vig.
oh I think I get it lol
by Porscha
Wed Jan 31, 2024 7:33 pm
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Re: Game of Champions: West Facility (Day 2)

Seanzie wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2024 11:43 am Oh, there are a lot of people on Delta... when did that happen?

Meh, not gonna fight it, but I do think Falcon is more likely wolf!Falcon than town!falcon here.
Yeah
by Porscha
Wed Jan 31, 2024 7:29 pm
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Seanzie wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2024 9:04 am So, I didn't like how Sig reacted to my comments about the other thread.

I mean, it's non-host info so everything should be taken with a grain of salt, but like... my claim that I got multiple messages and that Lime got elimmed will likely become common knowledge (the other thread knows who picked who for their version of secret santa [I'm guessing it was secret santa, just like ours, but perhaps something different, but one of them did mention the other, so they had some info about who was sending messages to whom {by the way, shortly after getting my messages, I laughed really hard, because I definitely did not do anything game related with my message, and realised that maybe I should have after getting two game-related messages}]). In zero worlds does making stuff up like this make any sense.

I also tried to word things in a way to make it clear that no result was being claimed against Sig (and also the rules forbid that), just someone had a read. This was his reaction:
sig wrote: Tue Jan 30, 2024 9:42 pm
Seanzie wrote: Tue Jan 30, 2024 8:58 pm So in the other thread, it looks like they elimmed Lime, and he flipped wolf. Some people elsewhere think Sig is a wolf.
Yea I’m not entertaining any of this when there’s zero way to engage ppl in another thread who has said thoughts and seems like a great way to derail our momentum
I think we should derail the current momentum and talk about this. Is anyone else seeing what I'm seeing?
Yeah
by Porscha
Wed Jan 31, 2024 5:31 am
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Re: Game of Champions: West Facility (Day 2)

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2024 5:17 am Alllllll by myselffffffff
nya

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by Porscha
Wed Jan 31, 2024 4:33 am
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delta is a sweet bean. his stuff with pyxxy to me does sort of read to me like he was trying to help pyxxy get into the game in a partnery way, but meh, it isnt a big point for me right now
by Porscha
Wed Jan 31, 2024 4:32 am
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Re: Game of Champions: West Facility (Day 2)

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2024 3:20 am
Porscha wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2024 3:15 am
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2024 3:14 am
Porscha wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2024 2:16 am anyway back to this

[VOTE: Delta] aubergine
Mason buddy why?

I am like relatively sure Delta is town here. They look bad off Pyxxy flip L0 but I think that if you think deeper about why town vs wolf approaches pyxxy the way Delta did its actually rather towny
oh, no, it didnt really have anything to do with pyxxy lol. I just independently thought he was a wolf yesterday and idk I didnt see anything that really changed my mind
Can you talk to me about what I'm missing?
He just felt really awkward to me and did way too many question marks early. when I said this yesterday, he angrily said my reason was stupid and nai, and to some degree, sure, he can do that as town, but... like... not to that degree I dont think

its whatever. if he's town he can town up today. I just didnt feel like he did anything specifically towny for him yesterday
by Porscha
Wed Jan 31, 2024 3:15 am
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Re: Game of Champions: West Facility (Day 2)

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2024 3:14 am
Porscha wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2024 2:16 am anyway back to this

[VOTE: Delta] aubergine
Mason buddy why?

I am like relatively sure Delta is town here. They look bad off Pyxxy flip L0 but I think that if you think deeper about why town vs wolf approaches pyxxy the way Delta did its actually rather towny
oh, no, it didnt really have anything to do with pyxxy lol. I just independently thought he was a wolf yesterday and idk I didnt see anything that really changed my mind
by Porscha
Wed Jan 31, 2024 3:13 am
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Re: Game of Champions: West Facility (Day 2)

abbi did you like that thing I got you for your birthday btw
by Porscha
Wed Jan 31, 2024 3:11 am
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Re: Game of Champions: West Facility (Day 2)

leetic wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2024 3:02 am
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2024 3:01 am Okay not fact but I'm as close to 100% sure as possible
Do you think it could be someone trying to imitate Caitlin, or is that just tinfoil?
I dont think they were trying to imitate caitlin at all lol idk why you thought it was her

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