The Syndicate

@Bereft uwu

operation coup?

grrrrrrr

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 4:30 pm

robyn wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 4:25 pmdon’t vote for me, the strict logic here is, if you do vote me and the vote is between me and someone else i never die and you ensure my vote (not yours) is the one that goes over. i think you’re town and i think that you can catch wolves. i’m just not and tbh i don’t expect u to see otherwise

"if you do vote me and the vote is between me and someone else i never die and you ensure my vote (not yours) is the one that goes over." I don't understand this.

if you vote for me you waste your vote because i never go over, that’s the rub, you ensure whoever i want to vote out goes out. like i’m not against working with you about anyone except my top town row on my post recent readslist

the issue is just that votes lock and your entire cycle might be made irrelevant by suspecting me. i don’t care how you view me here but the logic is that you’d waste all your effort on me and i think you’re town so i’d just ignore you

and voila d3 where you haven’t put effort into finding me and all my play ignoring lily is ignored by you and etc etc

it’s a shitshow and i’m warning you

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 4:20 pm

robyn wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 4:18 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 4:17 pm Also, there's this:

Bereft wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 2:38 pm

robyn wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 6:40 am i'm well within wolf range, and i'm gonna hold a 100% townread on schweppes/bereft, can you elaborate on boq and svs

i'm also fairly confident in ender being town

One of the three statements expressed in this post is false.

Did you address this or avoid it, robyn?

avoided, schweppes was calling me out of wolf range

How enigmatic. I thought he had some lie-detector role or something.

ah yes lie detect 3 opinions

anyway i understand that i probably can’t change your mind, but i have no respect for your play so i’m not gonna get mad at you like i got mad at lily

don’t vote for me, the strict logic here is, if you do vote me and the vote is between me and someone else i never die and you ensure my vote (not yours) is the one that goes over. i think you’re town and i think that you can catch wolves. i’m just not and tbh i don’t expect u to see otherwise

tfw impasse

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 4:17 pm Also, there's this:

Bereft wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 2:38 pm

robyn wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 6:40 am i'm well within wolf range, and i'm gonna hold a 100% townread on schweppes/bereft, can you elaborate on boq and svs

i'm also fairly confident in ender being town

One of the three statements expressed in this post is false.

Did you address this or avoid it, robyn?

avoided, schweppes was calling me out of wolf range

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 4:04 pm

robyn wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 3:48 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 3:44 pm

robyn wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 3:16 pm also i currently have a fairly strong read that long con is town right now

Didnt you always

no, this read isn’t micro either, his suspicion of me is genuine and there’s an amount of critical thinking involved which is indicative of him being town

You already said he was town for the reads list day 1 cuz he was "reading closely" and accused you of something you claim you didnt do

correct but i also hadn’t found him as town meaningfully and dropped him, that read was also heavily criticized which didn’t help. but now i’ve found him as town. he was bottom tier with lily in my first readslist cause it felt like he didn’t particularly have a worldview or many reads

abbie’s initial read was mostly a sheep from other people and specifically brad. brad dropping off and neon voting 2 towns is a very bad look for abbie. and neon just hasn’t done much this game and has been relegated to the background even though she’s been posting

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 3:58 pm Abbi right down to the bottom from a moderately town, robyn?

correct

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 3:52 pm

robyn wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 3:51 pm

robyn wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 11:22 pm bereft/brad/porscha/ender (0)
cape/abbie/wwa (1 max)
svs
boq/nook
jack/wigly/pyxxy/marmot (null)
lily/long con

bereft/long con/porscha/ender/wwa (town)
boq/nook
svs
jack/wigly/pyxxy/marmot (null)
abbie/brad

Why did I get moved from a pool of players with 1 wolf to "town"?

i’m just remaking my readslist and it’s useful for me to compare with my previous readslist

also i moved you because i think you’ve been very towny, you’re one of my top towns right now. mainly because i can follow your thought process very well and i think you’re town/genuinely solving due to having my exact same thoughts on either this page or the last

(i am commuting to class so i can’t type on laptop or look up posts easily)

robyn wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 11:22 pm bereft/brad/porscha/ender (0)
cape/abbie/wwa (1 max)
svs
boq/nook
jack/wigly/pyxxy/marmot (null)
lily/long con

bereft/long con/porscha/ender/wwa (town)
boq/nook
svs
jack/wigly/pyxxy/marmot (null)
abbie/brad

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 3:44 pm

robyn wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 3:16 pm also i currently have a fairly strong read that long con is town right now

Didnt you always

no, this read isn’t micro either, his suspicion of me is genuine and there’s an amount of critical thinking involved which is indicative of him being town

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 1:37 pm Never mind about what I said about robyn.

robyn wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 10:57 pm so stupid

@Scotty don't kill lily

robyn wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 11:11 pm i would very much like to kill lily, her play is bottom barrel and fucking nonsensical, truly atrocious. but the question of porscha's that i've ignored, i don't find her scummy. she's an intelligent person and can snap out of this nonsense. i would very much like to kill her for everything that she's done, it would be very gratifying. and scotty would probably follow me. but in the killing wolves department i can't see her as a wolf for all this terrible terrible play. she should live for now and i will chop her myself if she continues to play so fucking awfully.

The scenario played out in my head: robyn called for the shot as part of a distancing act, but in the wolf chat they're like "dude he'll do it, that's too much!" and later she called on Scotty to rescind.

The whole thing between robyn and lily was theatrical, a distancing act. They are wolves together.

oh i missed this post, hmmmmm, my argument still holds though

also i currently have a fairly strong read that long con is town right now

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 2:46 pm

robyn wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 2:41 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 1:50 pm Boq, am I going to crazyland to say robyn is now my top suspect? That stuff about robyn and lily being theatrics?

you’re not, lily just won an mu game after we distanced by theatre. in this case however i am town, and you’ve had a clever idea which probably would catch a wolf in a lot of scenarios. but you’re missing the forest for the trees. 1) read my iso and play independent of lily 2) notice that there’s a solid chance that she can be town 3) notice that i made many posts saying that i didn’t scumread lily and most importantly i made a post telling scotty that she should live 4) i’ve made no attempt to benefit off her death and give myself towncred

I did discuss the reasoning for wolf-you to call off the hit from Scotty. The information that you are experienced in the craft, specifically with Lily, doesn't make me less suspicious, you know? Like, ok, you guys are really good at it. You obviously know what +town points you expect me to hit, since you just stated them unbidden, so what's stopping wolf-you from setting it all up 'just so'?

nothing, the issue isn't so much the read, the reason i'm using logic here is because unlike n0 you have reasoning here which would catch wolves. everything beforehand was nonsense. but here the issue is that your read relies upon many things which don't apply. sure wolf theatre is good and can catapult people to towniness. but that's not what i've done or how i've handled lily at all

i've made no attempt to benefit off her death and i told scotty to let her live. this game is flipless. both of these points are extremely relevant because they give reasoning that theatre isn't necessary and shouldn't be done. imagine if your partner dies and the thread townreads them but scumreads a town.

in this case you've convinced yourself that lily was scum which is a logical leap in and of itself. and by extension have called me and her argument theatre, which is another logical leap. you must know that i haven't tried to benefit off her death and as a wolf i'd have sr her and would've aggressively taken credit, that's distancing and theatre. what happened in this game was not that

and as i've said you've begun ignoring everything else that i've done in this game in favor of my treatment and potential distancing from lily. which simply doesn't hold under scrutiny. i can explain more but i go to class ~now and no more access to latop. the issue is literally just that you've confirmation biased yourself into a world where i uniquely benefit from that's opposite to how i've played before and after her death

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 1:50 pm Boq, am I going to crazyland to say robyn is now my top suspect? That stuff about robyn and lily being theatrics?

you’re not, lily just won an mu game after we distanced by theatre. in this case however i am town, and you’ve had a clever idea which probably would catch a wolf in a lot of scenarios. but you’re missing the forest for the trees. 1) read my iso and play independent of lily 2) notice that there’s a solid chance that she can be town 3) notice that i made many posts saying that i didn’t scumread lily and most importantly i made a post telling scotty that she should live 4) i’ve made no attempt to benefit off her death and give myself towncred

i'm well within wolf range, and i'm gonna hold a 100% townread on schweppes/bereft, can you elaborate on boq and svs

i'm also fairly confident in ender being town

cape is a reasonable kill, i will completely ignore cape's legacy now, and note that brad has dropped off

wwa, ignoring everything relating to lily, why aren't you gonna vote me?

i'd also like a full readslist from u

@Boquise full readslist thanks

i'll play more later, i'm on tilt still and something something it's not worth it to play

long con has been active and has had difficulty getting into this game

lily is a bag of worms

i'm fairly convinced ender is just town, other 3 are lock town

abbie has good vibes and is playing towny but i've not played against scum abbie in ages

wwa feels less like a vulture and i believe they're trying to solve the game, same with cape. i just have particular issues with their play. it could be how they're reading me. which is something i will have to think about

svs hasn't left wolf range at all but has had fakeable towny moments

boq/nook have been playing under the radar but i can't say anything about them really, they've been posting and have had some good moments @Boquise post a full readslist ty

rest i can't say anything about

bereft/brad/porscha/ender (0)
cape/abbie/wwa (1 max)
svs
boq/nook
jack/wigly/pyxxy/marmot (null)
lily/long con

i would very much like to kill lily, her play is bottom barrel and fucking nonsensical, truly atrocious. but the question of porscha's that i've ignored, i don't find her scummy. she's an intelligent person and can snap out of this nonsense. i would very much like to kill her for everything that she's done, it would be very gratifying. and scotty would probably follow me. but in the killing wolves department i can't see her as a wolf for all this terrible terrible play. she should live for now and i will chop her myself if she continues to play so fucking awfully.

so stupid

@Scotty don't kill lily

Cape90 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 9:37 pm well it's not like i am being towny
btw welcome pyxxy

uh
i have no idea anymore but i townread boq/wwa/porscha/LimeCoke out of the night and scumread robyn a lil less and lily maybe a tad more (still think lily town)

can you do what i desire the most; post a full reads list?

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:25 pm

robyn wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:20 pm

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:16 pm

robyn wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:12 pm

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:09 pm

robyn wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:07 pm

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:04 pm

@Porscha

why is v!robyn so terrified to wolfread me xd

i don't have reason to, and i pulled up a meta example of us suspecting one another incorrectly the entire game, your posts continue to not make any sense. i don't think i've ever been described as terrified to do anything as any alignment? like you know me very well and continue to play in bad faith and weirdly not understand me

don't care

your posts towards me are weird and not in good faith either, just stop talking about me and if you're town ill find u eventually but the more you pointlessly say my name the more im going to want to kill you

i ought to ask the simple question; how have i treated you in bad faith? i'm explicitly not scumreading you for what i find to be very bad play that's unlike what i usually see from lily, is that not good faith?

i will stop talking to you though, i'm going to nap, get some sleep and produce some half decent content

mindlessly saying ive made shit content/shit takes the whole game and it's just like bruh my content is literally fine get off lmao

it’s not good content, half the things you say are simply wrong. then when i refuted pretty much your entire sus of me you just called me cringe and didn’t read it. marmot and porscha who are people besides me have just called you out for saying blatantly wrong things. furthermore i’m literally the top poster besides abbie and if anyone bothers to iso me they’ll see that i’ve been solving this entire time and that i’ve taken stances and opinions on nearly everything that’s happened this game, so calling my play mindless is another reason why you aren’t reading my posts or treating me in good faith

Your read on me sucks. That's the mindless part. Idc about whatever else you've posted because I'm not talking about it.

Your inability to point to specific posts or things I believe makes me not able to work with you. You just repeatedly say vague statements like "it's not good content"

"half the things you are are wrong"

like bruh WHAT THINGS WHAT CONTENT IS BAD

but yeah this is pointless you won't change and I won't tr you as you are rn so go find a wolf and stop talking to me thx

the funny part is that i’ve outlined and responded to numerous posts, including this one where you moved the goalpost for mindlessness. i’m gonna sleep, i really do hope u improve because i do want to play with you

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:17 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:15 pm @Lilypetal I've only read the exchange in the above post from robyn, but how have they been treating you in bad faith. I don't see it in that exchange.

Just because robyn isn't "scumreading" me doesn't mean they're not actively campaigning for me to be vig'd lol

its prolly worse that they're saying i should be shot despite refusing to call me a wolf

there’s a nice refutation to this is someone reads my iso closely enough.

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:16 pm

robyn wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:12 pm

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:09 pm

robyn wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:07 pm

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:04 pm

robyn wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 4:51 pm

robyn wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 4:48 pm if lily does not improve, i will tell scotty to off her, if she does improve i will tell scotty to let her live. i believe i said this, but i'll say it again more explicitly

to better respond to this and the above porscha post. me and lily have hard disagreed and been t/t before. adapt 6 on mu is a prime example where we were both slinging nonsense. so yes she's in town range, there's nothing i can reasonably read her off. i will advocate to off her. but i'm not gonna call her a wolf necessarily cause i don't have any proof and i don't sr her as i've said before

@Porscha

why is v!robyn so terrified to wolfread me xd

i don't have reason to, and i pulled up a meta example of us suspecting one another incorrectly the entire game, your posts continue to not make any sense. i don't think i've ever been described as terrified to do anything as any alignment? like you know me very well and continue to play in bad faith and weirdly not understand me

don't care

your posts towards me are weird and not in good faith either, just stop talking about me and if you're town ill find u eventually but the more you pointlessly say my name the more im going to want to kill you

i ought to ask the simple question; how have i treated you in bad faith? i'm explicitly not scumreading you for what i find to be very bad play that's unlike what i usually see from lily, is that not good faith?

i will stop talking to you though, i'm going to nap, get some sleep and produce some half decent content

mindlessly saying ive made shit content/shit takes the whole game and it's just like bruh my content is literally fine get off lmao

it’s not good content, half the things you say are simply wrong. then when i refuted pretty much your entire sus of me you just called me cringe and didn’t read it. marmot and porscha who are people besides me have just called you out for saying blatantly wrong things. furthermore i’m literally the top poster besides abbie and if anyone bothers to iso me they’ll see that i’ve been solving this entire time and that i’ve taken stances and opinions on nearly everything that’s happened this game, so calling my play mindless is another reason why you aren’t reading my posts or treating me in good faith

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:09 pm

robyn wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:07 pm

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:04 pm

robyn wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 4:51 pm

robyn wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 4:48 pm if lily does not improve, i will tell scotty to off her, if she does improve i will tell scotty to let her live. i believe i said this, but i'll say it again more explicitly

to better respond to this and the above porscha post. me and lily have hard disagreed and been t/t before. adapt 6 on mu is a prime example where we were both slinging nonsense. so yes she's in town range, there's nothing i can reasonably read her off. i will advocate to off her. but i'm not gonna call her a wolf necessarily cause i don't have any proof and i don't sr her as i've said before

@Porscha

why is v!robyn so terrified to wolfread me xd

i don't have reason to, and i pulled up a meta example of us suspecting one another incorrectly the entire game, your posts continue to not make any sense. i don't think i've ever been described as terrified to do anything as any alignment? like you know me very well and continue to play in bad faith and weirdly not understand me

don't care

your posts towards me are weird and not in good faith either, just stop talking about me and if you're town ill find u eventually but the more you pointlessly say my name the more im going to want to kill you

i ought to ask the simple question; how have i treated you in bad faith? i'm explicitly not scumreading you for what i find to be very bad play that's unlike what i usually see from lily, is that not good faith?

i will stop talking to you though, i'm going to nap, get some sleep and produce some half decent content

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:04 pm

robyn wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 4:51 pm

robyn wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 4:48 pm if lily does not improve, i will tell scotty to off her, if she does improve i will tell scotty to let her live. i believe i said this, but i'll say it again more explicitly

to better respond to this and the above porscha post. me and lily have hard disagreed and been t/t before. adapt 6 on mu is a prime example where we were both slinging nonsense. so yes she's in town range, there's nothing i can reasonably read her off. i will advocate to off her. but i'm not gonna call her a wolf necessarily cause i don't have any proof and i don't sr her as i've said before

@Porscha

why is v!robyn so terrified to wolfread me xd

i don't have reason to, and i pulled up a meta example of us suspecting one another incorrectly the entire game, your posts continue to not make any sense. i don't think i've ever been described as terrified to do anything as any alignment? like you know me very well and continue to play in bad faith and weirdly not understand me

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 4:55 pm

robyn wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 4:51 pm

robyn wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 4:48 pm if lily does not improve, i will tell scotty to off her, if she does improve i will tell scotty to let her live. i believe i said this, but i'll say it again more explicitly

to better respond to this and the above porscha post. me and lily have hard disagreed and been t/t before. adapt 6 on mu is a prime example where we were both slinging nonsense. so yes she's in town range, there's nothing i can reasonably read her off. i will advocate to off her. but i'm not gonna call her a wolf necessarily cause i don't have any proof and i don't sr her as i've said before

Couple questions, then. Do you expect scotty to listen to you? Since presumably you would just be talking to him in open thread and hoping he reads it, and then also agrees with you, and townreads you enough to trust you, and most certainly was town himself, and would therefore try to town side ... it is a lot of factors to consider.

Second... how would you ever scumread lily based on what you have just said? What takes her out of town range for you?

i believe that i'm his top, or one of his top tr's, and i've played well enough in multiple games (one where i was scooby doo or something and caught 3/4 of the mafia by myself on d1-2 (where he hosted)) i believe scotty would read the thread because he has an ability that will be used tonight

i also believe in any scenario where scotty is lying or anything like the ability doesn't go off or whatever isn't worth thinking about, i will assume what's optimal to me and play to it. it just doesn't matter whether it's false but it does matter if it's true and i'll play to that. it either is a world where scotty has a kill or doesn't and i'm gonna play like he does cause that's strictly optimal

under these assumptions. yes he has a kill. yes he trusts me. yes i can essentially have a nontrivial say in the kill

(me not answering the last 2 questions for reasons)

robyn wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 4:48 pm if lily does not improve, i will tell scotty to off her, if she does improve i will tell scotty to let her live. i believe i said this, but i'll say it again more explicitly

to better respond to this and the above porscha post. me and lily have hard disagreed and been t/t before. adapt 6 on mu is a prime example where we were both slinging nonsense. so yes she's in town range, there's nothing i can reasonably read her off. i will advocate to off her. but i'm not gonna call her a wolf necessarily cause i don't have any proof and i don't sr her as i've said before

if lily does not improve, i will tell scotty to off her, if she does improve i will tell scotty to let her live. i believe i said this, but i'll say it again more explicitly

anyway i'm on tilt, i'm gonna post less today because well, no reason to

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 2:10 pm

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 12:32 pm

robyn wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 11:29 am lily i also know you’re not reading any of my posts and another example is post 730 because post 677 exists, you’re painting me as a wolf without an earnest attempt to even read my posts

yeah theyre cringe

Might I suggest a Robyn cringe tell m'lady

lily literally has one, and it's indicative of town me

lily i also know you’re not reading any of my posts and another example is post 730 because post 677 exists, you’re painting me as a wolf without an earnest attempt to even read my posts

okay, lily i apologize for being so aggressive towards you. and i’ve thought about this a lot but i’m simply enraged by your play this game. your read on me is wrong and for the wrong reasons. you aren’t making sense to me and everything you’re saying is something that i disagree with. for example you accuse me of going through the motions by probing/being inquisitive towards nooks alignment. i don’t understand this read one bit because i pushed him without making a read on him and i’m going to be curious about the alignments of other players and i don’t understand why you’re criticizing me and calling me wolfy for that, it’s blatantly in bad faith. furthermore had you read the thread in the first place you would understand that two voters who would be online (brad because of bad sleep schedule and ender because he’s from australia) both townread me and would come to vote, because of boq’s vote and nook’s vote there was still a fucking chance porscha would go over instead of nook, which she did. because both of these players townread me and because i ended up getting 2 votes plus myself on nook in the first place spending a considerable amount of effort on who was going to get voted out i can’t fucking see any scenario where i’m the one who is going through the motions. i expect town lily to find me without much difficulty, i don’t expect town lily to misread me and this gamestate so badly. i would very much like to change your worldview because it sucks, i can say that it sucks for demonstrable and quantifiable reasons. such as blatantly misreading events to read me and others. you not being able to find me is very concerning

(i’d have responded with a lot more thoughts to ur last post wwa but i have to leave unfortunately, cause i see a few things i can dissect)

Boquise wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 8:36 am

robyn wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 8:04 am

Boquise wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 6:15 am @robyn you said in the midst of Porscha talking with me that she is town. What made you come to that conclusion?

read her posts, she was combative and wasn't limp, helps that lily is fucking bonkers this game and wwa is being an opportunistic vulture with 0 understanding of what has happened and randomly agreed with lily when she literally should not have, who has previously townread me before

"read her posts" I have done that already, which you know.
I think you are putting way too much stock in "combative", as if scum cannot be that tbh.

scum can be, mac taught me how to read polarized porscha

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 8:31 am

robyn wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 8:19 am i know you agreed with lily on me, i know that it was for bad reasons because lily is not playing well, being convinced that there is a wolf in us three helps the shotty and opportunistic reads fmpov. i know that porscha has towntold and i have no reasons to suspect boq. that leaves me and lily. i do not suspect lily explicitly but what and how she's playing the game is not good. i don't need much to know that every post of hers has been backwards. i do know that porscha has towntold, that lily has a good porscha read normally (which i have said in my original porscha read) so lily getting porscha wrong is pinging me. lily getting me wrong is pinging me. but i don't want myself or lily to die right now because holy fuck that's terrible. you still look extremely fucking opportunistic to me and "DEAD CONVINCED" based off that logic and not gut is bad. can you explain reasons to tr me and to sr me, cause i don't know what your independent read on me is?

Ok, I think I get what you're saying now, thanks for explaining. My independent reasons for TRing or SRing you are that I thought your posts during N0 were decent but wasn't ready to lock in a townread at that point. During D1 I thought your posts improved and you felt like you were genuine in some of your reads (I don't remember which posts they were exactly but that's the impression I got). I still haven't read like 2 pages of D1 but I'll get to it after work probably.

For scumcasing, I actually thought people saying they thought you were wolfy on D1 were being opportunistic because I remember seeing you get easily wolfread even when you were town before, but I don't remember who other than lily seemed to think you were wolfing. I haven't had much of a strong opinion on lily but that one post she made where she quoted your posts kind of brought them to my attention again. I was not actively scumreading you earlier, as I said, but I did very openly say that I was considering reevaluating my read on you before I decided to agree with lily, the reason behind it being that I didn't like the way you were pushing on lily and porscha for a while there. Not because I disagreed (I did agree on the porscha take at that point at least, before she continued the debacle with boquise), but because of the way you were insistently and consistently pushing that they were scum and it didn't feel like you were adding to the discussion so much as fanning the flames in the background of the boq vs porscha thing.

i am convinced that if you iso thoroughly me you'll either death tunnel me or find me town (you aren't the death tunneling type)

so do that.

i have to go to work for the next 4ish hours

your read on me is too memory based and other stuff that isn't intimacy with my actual posts

i believe i've done enough for you to get a read on me even if you ignore my valiant attempt at saving scotty

i know you agreed with lily on me, i know that it was for bad reasons because lily is not playing well, being convinced that there is a wolf in us three helps the shotty and opportunistic reads fmpov. i know that porscha has towntold and i have no reasons to suspect boq. that leaves me and lily. i do not suspect lily explicitly but what and how she's playing the game is not good. i don't need much to know that every post of hers has been backwards. i do know that porscha has towntold, that lily has a good porscha read normally (which i have said in my original porscha read) so lily getting porscha wrong is pinging me. lily getting me wrong is pinging me. but i don't want myself or lily to die right now because holy fuck that's terrible. you still look extremely fucking opportunistic to me and "DEAD CONVINCED" based off that logic and not gut is bad. can you explain reasons to tr me and to sr me, cause i don't know what your independent read on me is?

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 8:06 am

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 8:05 am

robyn wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 8:02 am

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 6:12 am Oh yeah, wolf!Robyn would definitely want Scotty to die over Nook based on that
Yikes

what the fuck have you even read the game? i literally pushed nook and got every vote on him so that scotty doesn't die??????

Yeah, that's exactly my point, as a wolf you'd know someone on your team could manipulate votes so that you could look like you were trying to save Scotty when he was doomed anyway. I've been reading the game, go be rude to someone else.

Actually maybe I should reword this. I'm not saying that it makes you a wolf. I'm saying that if you ARE a wolf, you're well aware that town!Scotty is more of an asset to town than town!Nook because of their activity levels and contributions.

now see if what i've said d1 was fake or not, choose a side and read my posts closely. i hate that you've been doing nothing but pushing dichotomies between me and lily and me and porscha. it's pinging me like mad and is gross

Boquise wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 6:15 am @robyn you said in the midst of Porscha talking with me that she is town. What made you come to that conclusion?

read her posts, she was combative and wasn't limp, helps that lily is fucking bonkers this game and wwa is being an opportunistic vulture with 0 understanding of what has happened and randomly agreed with lily when she literally should not have, who has previously townread me before

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 6:12 am Oh yeah, wolf!Robyn would definitely want Scotty to die over Nook based on that
Yikes

what the fuck have you even read the game? i literally pushed nook and got every vote on him so that scotty doesn't die??????

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 6:11 am

robyn wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 12:09 am [VOTE: Nook] aubergine

robyn wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 2:45 am i would strongly prefer nook to die over scotty for sake of content

also nook, given your content what do you think about lily’s tr on you?

robyn wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 2:50 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 2:49 am

robyn wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 2:45 am i would strongly prefer nook to die over scotty for sake of content

also nook, given your content what do you think about lily’s tr on you?

Idk if she trs me or not but atp it's entirely reasonable if she does imo

what have you done for someone to get a town gutread on you

robyn wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 2:53 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 2:51 am Either Nook or Porscha to me I don't feel like voting Scotty.

go porscha imo

(this is my implicit response to u nook)

this shit makes 0 sense if robyn is town

like

idk

in a setup where ur vote is final how can u possibly vote nook then ask nook probing questions to discern alignment? it just seems entirely fake

and the last post is just awful lol

gives me the vibe of a wolf who is going through the motions

what the fuck are you even saying

in a setup where porscha and nook are still viable why wouldn't i ask nook probing questions

also the last post isn't bad, AND ALL YOUR POSTS CONTINUE TO SUCK

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:49 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:48 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:46 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:44 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:42 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:41 am

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:37 am

i don't rly see u as not afraid of confrontation or specifically confident

Porscha may not be afraid of confrontation.

But I am.

Please help me.

do you want me to confront you brad

I would love that.

Brad, you are being a very bad boy. We both know that you are wasting posts and clogging the thread with nonsense and emojis because you are choosing to act out for attention. That is not how good boys act. I will ask politely the first time: Please correct your behavior. Be the good boy I know you can be. <3

My reads are basically the same but add you and Lily to townreads I'm vibing anyways.

no but my posts are SO BAD and awful and u should be angry that im SO wolfy!!

they’re awful opinion wise not alignment wise, to clarify, you’ve not been scummy but again everything you’ve produced has been bad

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:35 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:32 am

robyn wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:31 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:27 am

robyn wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:26 am

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:11 am @Porscha if ur town robyn is prolly a wolf cuz they're lazily POEing us and trying to get me murdered for bad reasons

atm im unsure because you don't rly seem too towny

so idk whats ur opinion

this is such an awful post, everything you’re producing is bad, go read the thread in full and stop whatever this is, because it sucks

Robyn you seem very very agitated, did you get caught again?

lily’s play has been tilting me regardless of her read on me

have you considered that it might be alignment indicative and would you like to share your thoughts on that

Yes Robyn, tell us how that makes you feel and what you think you can do about it.

makes me think nothing, i expect her to find me as town, furthermore i expect her to have a similar worldview. albeit i haven’t clarified my current worldview

also porscha town

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:27 am

robyn wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:26 am

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:11 am @Porscha if ur town robyn is prolly a wolf cuz they're lazily POEing us and trying to get me murdered for bad reasons

atm im unsure because you don't rly seem too towny

so idk whats ur opinion

this is such an awful post, everything you’re producing is bad, go read the thread in full and stop whatever this is, because it sucks

Robyn you seem very very agitated, did you get caught again?

lily’s play has been tilting me regardless of her read on me

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:11 am @Porscha if ur town robyn is prolly a wolf cuz they're lazily POEing us and trying to get me murdered for bad reasons

atm im unsure because you don't rly seem too towny

so idk whats ur opinion

this is such an awful post, everything you’re producing is bad, go read the thread in full and stop whatever this is, because it sucks

can’t, have to sleep, work in 3h

go read the thread and make posts and get a world view, there’s enough content to read

i just think everything except the porscha read that you’ve done has been awful, i think you can improve, but rn i’d have you

take this as encouragement even though i’m being serious, i didn’t like your post calling me bad for suspecting you either