The Syndicate

ts account wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2023 10:22 pm Can someone please match and diffuse Rondo's negative energy? They're kind of bullyish and I don't really want them having a town leader voice, which it seems they're trying to wrest out of ego based on some recent comments

rondo is much nicer than me lol, and i’m the alternative

@Bereft @RondoDimBuckle @DrWilgy @Cape90

shall we go svs?

also reads on scotty?

ngl i’m down with a svs chop and a shot into ts account/lorab

i know and have played with both cape and illario for them to literally tell me in the thread

me and bereft also have been communicating wordlessly this entire game, and he's just town

okay so basically

i sr illario and cape there

i uh, thought i was gonna tunnel some random town illario and cape start signaling that they're mafia to me because they think i'm mafia (people started suspecting i was playing by agenda) and tutuu just pummels them

but i had a panic attack bc of the game and subbed out before my plan could come to fruition and didn't really care either way

i'm right 100% of the time

bereft town here 1000000%

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2023 2:49 pm
robyn wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2023 2:42 pm i am 100% certain he is town, willing to stake the game on it, if we were in lylo i snap the other person instantly
I’m not looking to vote there today anyway, but robyn, you must understand that all it takes is one time to be wrong to invalidate yourself every time you make a binary read like this.

I cannot state enough how your godread on Ilario in severance was utterly wrong. Your apple basket has holes, and you can’t catch them all.

*WHY* is bereft town, if you can explain it in more words than ‘he’s town’ please?

wasn't wrong on illario there

not wrong on bereft here

i am 100% certain he is town, willing to stake the game on it, if we were in lylo i snap the other person instantly

bereft is town.

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2023 11:17 am
robyn wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 10:16 pm @Scotty what are your reads, and welcome back
I was never gone, I was just still playing Severance apparently

Town:
Robyn/caps

Everyone else I’ll dive into today:

First impressions?
Rondo is top of my list- the ‘will he or won’t he’ playstyle has revolved around EoD- it feels like he’s been most active then, to bounce around between very odd candidates, and I’m not even sure why he ends where he does. Did he ultimately end on Michelle? Yep. But rewarding him cred for that is like giving the Medal of Honor to a cat for finally catching a laser pointer. Scum

Abbi is a tinfoil as well based on weird declarative statements at end of day and how she settled on Michelle like we should understand what the Ouiji board told her to do. Is this how a wolf Abbi operates? I dunno, never seen it. But it’s weird. Light scum.

Thunal had some bizarre stuff going on around the mich flip in hindsight. Ngl when I got on and thunal specifically told me to vote Lorab over Michelle was an influence for sure. Add on that she has had a tinfoil I’ve been acting silly on purpose just reeks of agenda with a Mich flip. Scumlean

Bereft is the most likely deepwolf candidate and I still suspect him for association with the big talkers without content I remember. Light scum

Wilgy looks good based on how adamant he was to voting a cogent player on D1 and looks great with a Mich wolf flip. He could be aggressively bussing, which I remember someone (Abbi?) recently said he did in a game as wolf, but I just kinda don’t see it, especially in the context of how everyone else voted. Townread

Lorab feels town based on wagon comp.

SVS is still just in the background and I don’t even remember what she posted yesterday. She’s still firmly in my POE and I have faith I’ll figure her out from her ISO today. Light scum

So current POE to be trimmed: rondo/abbi/thunal/bereft/SVS

I think JJJ’s reads are pretty solid, but not infallible. Using those as a blueprint is probably a good idea, but ima work today to come to my own conclusions independently.

holy crap you’re all turned around and idk if this makes u town or wolf

oh svs, i do want ur abbie read

S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2023 6:48 am
robyn wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2023 6:38 am
S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2023 6:35 am
robyn wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 9:51 pm
S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 9:50 pm In Darlings favor I said repeatedly in thread that LoRab was a rabbi, it’s Channukah, I follow her socials and she’s been very busy. Darling could easily have picked it up from the thread.
so, what reads do you have missy?
Aw you called me missy

I'm gonna be honest; I got totally derailed Day One for the somewhat (from my POV) overreaction to my thoughts on Scotty. Who popped up doing a Tasmanian Devil whirling dervish imitation around me every time I mentioned his name. In the post that I said I didn't want to talk about it, he popped up and called my post 'garbage' (I saw what Jay said about how it prolly was just the insanifier, but come on. Lots of words in that post, and all his posts, were clear and game related). I have never seen so much over reaction to a day one observation that wasn't even a suspicion.

I agree that we are unpaired, lol.

I am having problems getting out of the OMGUS thing, so I'm happy to look into jays POE, and the LoRab voters. I think voting for her at all was kinda icky, and wagoning her was double icky., especially when most of Michelles posts her last day were pretty sketch.
now tell me something i don’t know
Well, I seem to recall you telling me at some point that you know everything, or aspire to, so no bet. I'll try harder.

i already know enough for my musings to induce suffering for others and/or be enlightening (which makes 0 sense at all)

tell me, have you ever known anyone personally who became/was an addict?

S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2023 6:35 am
robyn wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 9:51 pm
S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 9:50 pm In Darlings favor I said repeatedly in thread that LoRab was a rabbi, it’s Channukah, I follow her socials and she’s been very busy. Darling could easily have picked it up from the thread.
so, what reads do you have missy?
Aw you called me missy

I'm gonna be honest; I got totally derailed Day One for the somewhat (from my POV) overreaction to my thoughts on Scotty. Who popped up doing a Tasmanian Devil whirling dervish imitation around me every time I mentioned his name. In the post that I said I didn't want to talk about it, he popped up and called my post 'garbage' (I saw what Jay said about how it prolly was just the insanifier, but come on. Lots of words in that post, and all his posts, were clear and game related). I have never seen so much over reaction to a day one observation that wasn't even a suspicion.

I agree that we are unpaired, lol.

I am having problems getting out of the OMGUS thing, so I'm happy to look into jays POE, and the LoRab voters. I think voting for her at all was kinda icky, and wagoning her was double icky., especially when most of Michelles posts her last day were pretty sketch.

now tell me something i don’t know

i need a strong man to tell me what to do uwu

rondo, you wanna be in charge?

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2023 12:18 am I think @DrWilgy should be in charge like jjj said

if wigly doesn't hit inside me/you/bereft/cape i'd probably follow him

especially if it was inside jay's poe

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 11:13 pm I came into today thinking Lorax is basically cleared. Is she not? If not, why?

i don't think she is tbh, but also not inclined to chop her, i think the town shot should be on her

means a private discord chat, or a private chat in general, where the info isn’t in the thread

Bereft wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 10:46 pm I though someone said on reliable authority that ts account was a ladd alt lolololololol.

But yeah I may or may not have played with NSM Mikey eons ago.

i was trolling and was spectating a ladd game from almost 2 years ago, literally hit me after the fact that ladd was hydra’ing with michelle. and i was sorta baiting a nk

ts account wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 10:44 pm
robyn wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 10:43 pm
ts account wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 10:39 pm iirc, the iso meta here is big, so if you wanted to know who I am for the sake of that, here's a link to my profile https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/me ... -NSM-Mikey

this is old, of course, and my meta as of late has shifted a bit toward tryharding as wolf and skimming as town
ah, i’ve seen you play before

anyway ur p much consensus scum
that's pretty silly considering I haven't even been here

towncore is just that good

ts account wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 10:39 pm iirc, the iso meta here is big, so if you wanted to know who I am for the sake of that, here's a link to my profile https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/me ... -NSM-Mikey

this is old, of course, and my meta as of late has shifted a bit toward tryharding as wolf and skimming as town

ah, i’ve seen you play before

anyway ur p much consensus scum

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 10:31 pm
robyn wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 10:21 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 10:19 pm
robyn wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 10:15 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 10:14 pm Shit it cut me off

I was gonna say it’s a beautiful day in the neighborhood

I’m not around much until a bit later tomorrow but I just wanna say- good job on Michelle. I have a lot to say in regards to the end of D1 now that we know Michelle’s alignment. D2 is helpful too, in that I think we had some absolute bus drivers

But for now:
Rondo and Thunal didn’t think I had a stroke, and that in and of itself is suspect
rondo did, thunal played eod weirdly and her general play around michelle was strange
1 out of 4 is redeeming right?
yeah, i'd tinfoil in your position too, it's just i was having the good game

thunal doesn't die today either though
why not?

thunal is either cop with a green on michelle or scum

ts account wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 10:34 pm
robyn wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 10:30 pm lol, hello ts account, do you have an MU account?
yeah I'm Mikey

mikey who

ts account wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 10:33 pm there are 4 whole pages of posts with "ts account" in them
yall wild

someone fill me in, I see JJJ got nkd and one of their most recent posts has a POE in it. Are we following that, generally?

we are

lol, hello ts account, do you have an MU account?

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 10:19 pm
robyn wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 10:15 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 10:14 pm Shit it cut me off

I was gonna say it’s a beautiful day in the neighborhood

I’m not around much until a bit later tomorrow but I just wanna say- good job on Michelle. I have a lot to say in regards to the end of D1 now that we know Michelle’s alignment. D2 is helpful too, in that I think we had some absolute bus drivers

But for now:
Rondo and Thunal didn’t think I had a stroke, and that in and of itself is suspect
rondo did, thunal played eod weirdly and her general play around michelle was strange
1 out of 4 is redeeming right?

yeah, i'd tinfoil in your position too, it's just i was having the good game

thunal doesn't die today either though

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 10:16 pm
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 9:56 pm
robyn wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 9:55 pm
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 9:54 pm
robyn wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 9:42 pm town (unordered)
wigly
dm
bereft
cape
rondo

rest
How the fuck am I not town lol
how'd you arrive at michelle towny asf to michelle wolf in like 10 minutes
That should be pretty easy to figure out with some critical thinking and me saying I'm confused about 300 times
Robyn, I trust Cape and Bereft are town because of you. Trust neon is town because of me. I have two strong reasons and will say neither

i didn't come into the thread with a chop abbie quota, i just have no clue about her alignment, etc etc you and cape and i think bereft all think she's town and i've never been able to read her. so yeah, i trust

@Scotty what are your reads, and welcome back

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 10:14 pm Shit it cut me off

I was gonna say it’s a beautiful day in the neighborhood

I’m not around much until a bit later tomorrow but I just wanna say- good job on Michelle. I have a lot to say in regards to the end of D1 now that we know Michelle’s alignment. D2 is helpful too, in that I think we had some absolute bus drivers

But for now:
Rondo and Thunal didn’t think I had a stroke, and that in and of itself is suspect

rondo did, thunal played eod weirdly and her general play around michelle was strange

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2023 12:21 am GTH reads on my POE pool:

Abigail - mafia
LoRab - mafia
Michelle - mafia
Scotty - town
S~V~S - mafia
Thunal - town
ts account - mafia

One mafia too many, but that's okay with me. Also I am probably far too biased by my own analytic workload to be able to achieve proper "GTH reads" at this point, but whatever I AM bored.

Spoiler: show

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 11:36 pm I have laid out reasons why these six players are town:

robyn, Bereft, DrWilgy, DarlingMonroe, RondoDimBuckle, and Cape90

If I am wrong about any of those, my entire process tumbles. I'd be grateful to hear of any disagreement from anyone. If those town reads are correct, then it leaves the POE of seven names I mentioned earlier. That's one more than a game-winning POE pool would allow for (six players). On that basis, I'd also love to hear everyone's top town read in this pile:

ts account, Scotty, S~V~S, LoRab, Michelle, Thunal, Abigail

full disclosure i'm outright sheeping jjj today

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 9:56 pm
robyn wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 9:55 pm
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 9:54 pm
robyn wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 9:42 pm town (unordered)
wigly
dm
bereft
cape
rondo

rest
How the fuck am I not town lol
how'd you arrive at michelle towny asf to michelle wolf in like 10 minutes
That should be pretty easy to figure out with some critical thinking and me saying I'm confused about 300 times

it's not, besides bereft what townreads and scumreads do you have

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 9:55 pm BTW I think Bereft is mafia but I refuse to push anyone this game so

he's town

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 9:54 pm
robyn wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 9:42 pm town (unordered)
wigly
dm
bereft
cape
rondo

rest
How the fuck am I not town lol

how'd you arrive at michelle towny asf to michelle wolf in like 10 minutes

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2023 2:07 am

Highly doubt they're teamed | Unlikely to be teamed | Maybe compatible even if I don't feel it | Compatible

I need to sort my teams out better. Here are the combinations including any group of four from {Michelle, LoRab, ts account, S~V~S, Abigail, Scotty} with any instance of {Scotty, S~V~S} together removed. I have not included any combinations with Thunal in them. I may try to tackle that if my team of combinatorics gurus can help me out.

[Michelle, LoRab, ts account, S~V~S] - all mutually yellow

[Michelle, LoRab, ts account, Abigail] - all mutually yellow

[Michelle, Abigail, ts account, Scotty] - all mutually yellow except for Michelle/Scotty

[LoRab, ts account, Scotty, Abigail] - all mutually yellow except for LoRab/Scotty

[Michelle, LoRab, ts account, Scotty] - all mutually yellow except for Michelle/Scotty and LoRab/Scotty

[Michelle, LoRab, Scotty, Abigail] - all mutually yellow except for Michelle/Scotty and LoRab/Scotty

[LoRab, ts account, S~V~S, Abigail] - all mutually yellow except for S~V~S/Abigail

[Michelle, LoRab, S~V~S, Abigail] - all mutually yellow except for S~V~S/Abigail

[Michelle, ts account, Abigail, S~V~S] - all mutually yellow except for S~V~S/Abigail

Loosely ranked by "color viability", though differentiating is controversial after the full yellow teams.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 9:50 pm In Darlings favor I said repeatedly in thread that LoRab was a rabbi, it’s Channukah, I follow her socials and she’s been very busy. Darling could easily have picked it up from the thread.

so, what reads do you have missy?

town (unordered)
wigly
dm
bereft
cape
rondo

rest

i played like a baboon eod1, apologies

voted michelle

Spoiler: show

8/4 lorab

Bereft wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2023 10:23 pm No you dont. You don't even know why you should be blindsheeping me over J³ every single time here.

Like yeah, obviously I could've done more posting about it,l sorry but holy I should not have put myself in this position, trying to explain with 10 minutes on the clock.

you don't have to give me a dissertation, c'mon 1-2 sentences and the full solve

#2495 is a good post

Bereft wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2023 10:20 pm
robyn wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2023 10:18 pm
Bereft wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2023 10:18 pm
robyn wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2023 10:17 pm scotty probs a wolf, does it mean bad news for lorab?
Yes it $%#!ing does holy $%#!.
give me a sentence why
Holy $%#! man, I'm the only $%#!ing entire person in this entire playerlist whos $%#!ing a constructed a coherent worldview and you've straight up igbored because Ive already mentioned Scotty/LoRab interactions more than once.

i've been blindsheeping jjj

i know you're town etc etc

bring up the posts so i can read quickly, thank you

@RondoDimBuckle why are you voting lorab

Bereft wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2023 10:18 pm
robyn wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2023 10:17 pm scotty probs a wolf, does it mean bad news for lorab?
Yes it $%#!ing does holy $%#!.

give me a sentence why

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2023 10:17 pm
robyn wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2023 10:15 pm i think there are 4 town on both wagons
who bad lets get them instead?

svs/abbie/michelle are the 3 i'm not tr'ing

scotty probs a wolf, does it mean bad news for lorab?

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