The Syndicate

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 5:48 am Anyone think that its worth noting that only a handful of people participated in the Prog thing and that mafia would be more incentivized to do that

I wouldn't use it to base my reads on tbh. Maybe keep it in mind for posterity.

Also forgot to add Llama to towncore. When I look at their rainbow list I find myself coinciding with the bottom mostly reads-wise (if I take my slot out since that's a wrong read).
I know it's from Day 1 but even for D2 it coincides mostly with mine. I don't find myself capable of ranking the bottom like that at the moment, so I don't necessarily agree with the order of reads in the bottom pool (just that it's where I'd look).

thellama73 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 4:42 pm Is it too early for a classic rainbow list?
Michelle's participation today (apart from asking for sensitive personal information like my time zone) has me feeling better about her. My vote is unlikely to stay on her.

Scotty
fingersplints
DrWilgy
Golden
Michelle
DharmaHelper
DFaraday
G-Man
sig
Vivian
bea
Kate
Sloonei
Elohcin
Lora
Quin
NotAnAxehole

Hiii I'm back to annoy more people, well not as much, I had a license to do it previously.
I spent all day reading yesterday, it's kinda awkward to just reappear in the game after dying.

Spoiler: show

This is some Dwight Schrute tier reasoning.
Not meant as criticism because I had the same thought shortly after I placed a vote on Wilgy and then switched back to Sloonei. Just a funny way to talk to Scotty imo.

Vivax wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 6:28 pm
Anyone else thinking that all the baddies are among the off wagon voters, currently ?

If I remember the VC correctly at the time of above post, there were I think three nonvoters (Bea, LoraB, DFara)

Eloh: Michelle, Kate (?)
Sloonei: FP, llama, Viv, NAA

As for anyone not on Eloh or Sloonei:
Golden was on Quin.
Wilgy, G-Man on Golden.
Sloonei, Eloh on Viv.
Sig, DH were on ?
Scotty on bea.

Either way, it's like half the game not being on Sloonei or Eloh. So saying mafia was off wagons doesn't really restrict the lynch pool enough.

Here's a list from least suspicious to most suspicious, very memory-based:

Scotty (Very un-agendad way of being in the thread, relaxed attitude, lots of poking around)
Michelle (The thoughts on the game and various players appear believable and posts spontaneously)
Sig (Relaxed way of giving his views on his own. They seem rather original and I'd expect scum to be more adaptive to pre-existent reads)
DH (Very solvey streaks of posts, like the attempts to decipher roles, bit less invested on alignments !)

G-Man (Seemed to show genuine interest into the game. Writing style looked interesting. Hoping for more.)
Wilgy (Hard to explain. There's something townie in all that flying around and licking random people)

I'll stop here, actually.
Would rather try to suggest this as town core for now before trying to figure out who the mafia are (and I'd rather read more first). For which I think it would make sense to start out with feasible pairings.

I get to do this first

LoRab wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:47 pm I am not going to, but tempted to vote axehole, because he doesn’t seem to honor at all the way other people play, and not adapting to the way many of us are used to. Which is frustrating, and I’m trying not to let me suspect him because I’m annoyed. Similar with VIVA.

That seems like an odd description. Do you have pointers on how to honour how other people's play, maybe?

I'm unlikely to vote Quin.

Quin's move on DH looks townie to me. Too unique for scum, maybe?

Spoiler: show

Scotty and Golden, do you want to hold on to that scumread ?
I might be backing off Sloonei solely for reaching the same conclusion. Don't know where to go yet.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 6:29 pm
thellama73 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 6:23 pm Lots of vote switching going on without people posting about it. Very suspicious.
Tastes like crime

Sounds better than pasta water.

I'm ok with these wagons save that I don't fully understand the Golden one.

I'm not sure if I should love or hate the work DH has put into his spoilered summaries. It's the sort of stuff you want to be AI in one way or the other but then it would be a duck move.
But a lot of it is mostly...summaries, with links. Maybe I'm too judgmental ?

Would be kinda funny if he got D1d after writing all that though.

I moved back to Sloonei.

[VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine

Anyone else thinking that all the baddies are among the off wagon voters, currently ?

G-Man wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 5:14 pm Voting for Golden the Coward for poopooing on my attempts to sort out game mechanics to the civvies’ advantage. He’s also high post-count, which gives us lots to chew on, right or wrong. His tone is pretty level, but that (along with his posting volume) could be a ploy to place him right at radar level. He’s present, posting, and engaged. At this early stage it’s easy enough to give someone like him a pass for a few days just on those qualities alone.

[VOTE: Golden the Coward] aubergine

I have a meeting tonight that may push right up to eod. I’ll hang around up to the start of the meeting, but I can’t promise that I’ll make it back before the flip.

I don't really understand this reason to vote Golden. Rest of this post seems more to aim at expressing that Golden can do this as mafia. But G-Man comes off townie to me, at glance.

Someone remind me why they are voting Quin and G-Man please

What if I solve the game just by omgusing everyone who called me mafia

Elohcin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 4:54 pm
Vivax wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 4:45 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 4:43 pm
Vivax wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 4:39 pm [VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine
I think it would be really helpful if there were points given as to why you are voting someone when you do so.
Don't like the game state, would like Wilgy to do stuff as he's sort of just there for a majority of players.
Looking over your posts in reference to Wilgy, you first townread him and then you didn't have much of anything of substance on him. You had stronger cases for others. This vote seems to come out of nowhere. Your gameplay so far looks like trying to fly under the radar so far Day 1.

To everyone, this whole debacle with Scotty has taken my focus away from what's important. I've been focused on defending myself so much because no one seems to understand my words!! It's taken all my energy and I haven't been able to see players for what they are doing.

Vivax is on my radar.

Do you still believe that Sig placing a risky vote is more likely to come from mafia ?

Elohcin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 4:43 pm
Vivax wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 4:39 pm [VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine
I think it would be really helpful if there were points given as to why you are voting someone when you do so.

Don't like the game state, would like Wilgy to do stuff as he's sort of just there for a majority of players.

[VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine

I have a separate mental compartment for Scotty + Sig tinfoil at the moment, but I'd like to see if Sloonei gets some more original thought going.

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 3:39 pm
Vivax wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 3:29 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 3:24 pm Sorry, what does [x]binned mean?
Every time I make a new read I write it down and throw it into a coloured bin.
When it's scumreads they go onto the dartboard
Oh cool,

Like a rainbow list?

I don't think the average D1 accuracy warrants a rainbow list.
But yes, just a mental concept anyways to x-bin people. The expression must have been invented from someone at HR.

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 3:24 pm Sorry, what does [x]binned mean?

Every time I make a new read I write it down and throw it into a coloured bin.
When it's scumreads they go onto the dartboard

Golden wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 3:04 pm
Vivax wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 3:02 pm
Golden wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 2:59 pm
Vivax wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 2:58 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 2:56 pm @Vivax why were those three names (bea, eloh, golden) important to you?
I find them harder to get a read on and they're sitting in a pool with you.
Not including DFaraday and LoraB who just get nullbinned for D1.
Are you really nullbinning LoRab?
No, I'm the mafia you are voting making it up
I assume that's sarcasm.

I ask because you voted her, and that vote came across as a genuine read to me. I'd like to know if it was a read, or just a 'pressure vote'.

You assumed well.

Sometimes I don't like questions that lead me to repeat myself.
LoRab vote was a whiff for the question to Scotty, suppose that's gotten back in my priority list while rereading and changing my perspective. A whiff from someone who was posting very little, so the vote wasn't undeserved.

LoRab wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 10:45 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 8:07 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 7:36 pm You guys will get there eventuallt.
oh thank Cthulhu I can finally role check you tonite
Did you just role claim a mafia role?

This post reads 'mildly accusing' in a rather timid way.

Do you think that should be scumbinned, Sloonei?

Golden wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 2:59 pm
Vivax wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 2:58 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 2:56 pm @Vivax why were those three names (bea, eloh, golden) important to you?
I find them harder to get a read on and they're sitting in a pool with you.
Not including DFaraday and LoraB who just get nullbinned for D1.
Are you really nullbinning LoRab?

No, I'm the mafia you are voting making it up

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 2:56 pm @Vivax why were those three names (bea, eloh, golden) important to you?

I find them harder to get a read on and they're sitting in a pool with you.
Not including DFaraday and LoraB who just get nullbinned for D1.

Sorry. Page 5.

On a bea reread, 'The Doctor' cat appears almost professionally casual.
Guess that's one way of putting on a pokerface.

If you want to be taken seriously, now's the time.

Mostly interested into your takes on Bea, Eloh, Golden. The latter had a period of regular relaxed posting that briefly flashed town to me, but again something felt off on P5 on my latest reread.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 2:22 pm
Vivax wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 2:15 pm [VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine

Consider this a delayed Omgus if you will
Oh, this is interesting.

Didn’t you call me town when we last interacted. What has changed?

Llama summed it up well in my opinion, and his own reasons.

I'd add that you considered it townie when Fingersplints voted you on page 5 ? Or at least that's the timing of your townread.
You're quick to jump when mentioned, or so it appears. Reactive.

Some more:

To me it looks like you ask questions and comment on things in a detached way around P5-6.
The question to Elohcin about what a town player acts like had a token question note to it.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 4:26 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 4:24 pm We're not killing mafia today.
Is this a comment on the state of the game or a strategic suggestion?

This is just a troll question. Funny if you and axe were a team.

[VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine

Consider this a delayed Omgus if you will

LoRab gets Botd for busy claims. But there's a bunch of those about.

Kate goes to town after an ISO, but I'm not a fan of limming Scotty today. Think he's town now.

Golden and Sloonei on P5 stick out to me somewhat. Golden for townread on Fingersplints after dropping a vote on Sloonei. Sloonei for quickly dropping a few posts after Finger did that.
Mostly though I get associative vibes around there, maybe cause they didn't interact with each other much.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 11:54 am
G-Man wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 9:43 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 10:31 am Bea: *Lick*
G-Man: *Lick*
Vagrant doctor, why for art hast thou lickest me? Dost thy tongue perceive me in a particular manner?
Hunger.

You taste like caramel!

Kate wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 12:07 pm I"m not in love with this seasoning.

Antispew is stopping to post when it looks like you're going to the block.
Your question wasn't dodged. I didn't work with the assumption that mafia can pocket another mafia like you did. I think you're the first I saw do that.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:45 am What about bea buddying G-Man is assuming that G-Man is town, given that there are two mafia teams?

Is that so ?
Do you think Eloh went into antispew ?

LoRab wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:52 am
Vivax wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 5:25 am [VOTE: LoRab] aubergine

For snipey pop-in
If pointing out a strange post makes me seem suspish to you, I’m ok with that.

Do you sus Scotty for that ?

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 6:46 am At the time I'm writing/reading all this:

bea - 21 posts

Spoiler: show
After some early game fun posts, downplays her ability as a mafia then the rest of Night 0 is more reminiscing.

As Day 1 begins, here to a vote from Scotty that seems a bit wonky, is "confused" by NotAnAxhole's post, defends her cheery attitude and is disheartened that she has gotten some votes. Agrees with G-Man RE: Day 1 needing to be more substantive and RE: laying out some adverbs. Has some interesting exchanges RE: DF's activity level. Particularly interested in the defense of DF by way of saying that Golden's defense of DF itself "vibes better" for Golden.Defends herself from Sig/Llama's criticism of low posters by saying she's getting back in the swing of things. Refuses to give a solid read/opinion on the current state of the game, instead saying she "generally sees the good in everyone".

Here she again downplays her ability to lie/be mafia

Here She offers 3 "reads". I say "reads" because they're "This person hasn't done anything noteworthy yet, this person is quiet, and this person is confusing" which mean nothing to me and could be taken any number of ways.

Has a bit of an exchange with Golden that doesn't seem to be amounting to much

Then forgets when the poll ends.

Overall Read - I don't like the "teehee I'm bad at being bad" stuff generally speaking. I don't think the reads she's offered up have any meat to them, and I think her G-Man post is buddying. Nothing I'm reading from her is quite worth a vote just yet but Bea is not comfortably outside of my radar by any means.
DFaraday - 1 post

Nothing here worth looking into or posting about, moving on!

Dr Wilgy - 15 posts

Spoiler: show
Here an early vote for Scotty that does not appear very serious. Which is then "revoked" here and replaced with a vote for Sig that doesn't appear very serious. Lots of licking summarized here

Overall Read - Doc is a strange guy and (intentionally) hard to nail down early. If later contributions are at this level I'm worried, but for now, nothing to make hay over.
Eloh - 12 Posts
Spoiler: show
Here is the Post Heard Round The World, Eloh attaches onto Sloonei's "suspicion" of sig, pointing out that she is not a fan of changing votes and would r ather take the day to consider things. Says that the only way sig would know votes were changeable would be after he'd voted (making his hasty vote suspect). Defends herself here by saying that Rule #5 says votes are "maybe" changeable. Says she'd read the ROLES, including "Moveable Votes", but didn't understand it. Claims she'd confused it for a RULE, but after sleeping on it sees the error she made. Retracts her sig suspicion.

Here and Here defends herself from mine and Scotty's comments by saying we ought to "know" to give her "leeway" and that she "wasn't lying". I confess to having intentionally responded only with a to see what shook loose (if either she would respond defensively, or if someone would take the crumb and run with it, both of which happened).

Here is an exchange with Scotty. Scotty is saying Eloh "presented her suspicion in so many words" and dropped it "without offering any other reads for other players". Eloh's response is that "day one reads are a shot in the dark" and "there was a lot going on" at the time of her post. My two cents being that Eloh made a gut read oon sig based on faulty/misunderstood info, retracted it when she was found to have been misinformed, end of. I don't agree with the assertion by Scotty that she was obligated to offer another read or that she is suspicious for not having done so. Then Eloh makes some pretty generic statements about how mafia would act, and uses that to cast suspicion onto Scotty by saying he is being "kind of silly/off topic and distracting from gameplay". How that holds up will have to wait until I read Scotty's posts.

Here responds more in detail by offering commentary on my questions to Scotty, calling Scottys response "very bad". Says she's not voting for people she doesn't know.

Criticizes NotAnAxehole [url=https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic.php?p=966070#p966070]Here For being pessimistic about the lynch prospects.

Here Sees Scotty's response as him "edging off" his suspicion of her. Refuses to offer a baddie read when asked, but offers a tame, relatively safe "bea is a civ because she would have had teammates to tell her when the poll ends" read.

Overall Read - Indie probably.
Fingersplints - 13 Posts

Spoiler: show
After some N0 Fluff Defends NotAnAxhole's behavior as "NAI" when Llama starts sniffing around, but also says that llama's line of questioning is good. So a net 0.

[url=https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic.php?p=966005#p966005]Here Doesn't like the Eloh/Scotty discourse. Says Eloh was "quick to jump on" the sig stuff, but defends her and offers that it would've been "easier for mafia Eloh to leave the suspicion on sig", which I disagree with because it was such an easily disprovable suspicion. Says Scotty was "quick to jump on Eloh" which I agree with. Turns out Splints does want to jump into the Eloh/Scotty discourse, but may not want to look like she did.

Votes for Sloonei because she has "high expectations" and wants to see where they're at.

Sniffs out that Llama left out DFaraday as a low poster (when Llama was saying that mafia are laying low/low posting).

Overall Read - I wanna see where the llama stuff goes. I'm leaning civ for Splints atm.
G-Man - 13 posts [spoiler] [url=http ... 65904]Here After some Night 0 fluff and catching up and whatnot, offers some mechanical insight into the game (specifically the adverb mechanics).

Here Says he's "useless" on Day 1.

Here Defends NotAnAxehole's behavior as "NAI" and suggests that we "ignore some of his punchier tendencies".

Here says that Llama being "loose" is a good sign

Here Says he doesn't want to lynch anyone with a low post count (LoRab, DF, Kate). Says he thinks Llama is good and that Eloh is "Bait". Doesn't want to lynch Vivax because they're new to each other. Thinks that "chopping from the top half of the post count" will yield the most content. (Scotty, Sloonei, Golden, Me, Bea, Michelle, and NAA)

Hesitates based on the Rez Mechanic.

Overall Read - Saying that you want a more productive Day 1 and then giving people who are being the least productive on Day 1 a lynch pass, while singling out the people who are giving you what you asked for as worth lynching is a bad look. Offering little "meat" yourself while requesting it from others is another bad look. My man is not a civ. [/spoiler]

Taking a break from my reads for now.

Somehow doesn't compute much you'd accuse Bea of buddying in your first spoiler and conclude the post by calling G-Man mafia for plain hypocrisy. Town are hypocrites all the time.
But in this case you built a G-Man town assumption into your Bea read and then invalidated your initial assumption.
Shouldn't you have more focused reads after this summary ? Doesn't really feel like it, unless you could just voice them more concretely. While I appreciate the effort, summarizing but not acting is a more mafia thing to do.

[VOTE: LoRab] aubergine

For snipey pop-in

Golden wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 5:01 am
Vivax wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 4:49 am
Golden wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 7:22 pm
Golden wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 4:40 pm
Vivax wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 4:14 pm
Golden wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 4:08 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 4:05 pm
Hopefully they posts and we can make a read because lynching a low poster at random is a coin flip.
I would say ‘at random’ excludes meta reads. Lynching a low posting DF on day 1 feels like worse odds than a coin flip to me.
Pointing out that Finger showed inquisitiveness towards Llama (iirc) not mentioning DF while Golden is less concerned with putting the screws on DF.

Makes Golden look slightly too complacent maybe.
Fingersplints townier unless DF is mafia.

Maybe useful to go back to for pairings later.
What screws?
@Vivax i do actually want an answer to this.
It means pressuring someone. Since it's meta for DF to not post, that argument doesn't carry its old weight.
Sorry, didn't explain myself well. I understand the expression, what I was getting at is... what are the screws that I'm not concerned with putting in?

Does pressure come on DF is people point out he isn't posting?
Do you think that pressure likely to help create a read?
Did it seem to you like fingersplints was 'putting the screws' on DF by pointing out llama forgot him from a list?

I think voting mafia creates pressure for mafia to post, yes. Even just talking about them. Michelle was a vote on DF at the time. Getting a triple vote could be an incentive ? Hard to say in hindsight, which is why this doesn't feel productive.
FP pointing out the absence from a list is a good catch, but I was rather suggesting that it's a catch that could suggest a FP/DF pairing later in the game (you'd be more aware of a teammate skirting by).

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Oct 23, 2022 10:27 pm That being said, I actually think sig coming out and throwing caution to the wind with regards to his spelling and grammar is townie, if not reckless. Could be WIFOM, but that role is incredibly restrictive to my *vibe* which comes with autocorrect errors and incomplete sentences. So I get it.

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 2:38 pm
thellama73 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 2:22 pm I will also state for the record that I don't buy the suspicion on Sig. Feels too easy.
Sig is known miselimination fodder.

It is known, Khaleesi.

Though I’m seeing more support for sig as town than suspicion at this current juncture..

Bit too much whiteknighting on sig from Scottys part for my taste. I don't like that the initial argument became a secondary one in his reply to Llama. Scotty may be a bit too eager to parade the start of day role shenannies around that he based his sig townread on.

LoRab wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 10:45 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 8:07 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 7:36 pm You guys will get there eventuallt.
oh thank Cthulhu I can finally role check you tonite
Did you just role claim a mafia role?

This pop-in tho

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 7:22 pm
Golden wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 4:40 pm
Vivax wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 4:14 pm
Golden wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 4:08 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 4:05 pm
Golden wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 3:54 pm There would be nothing more ‘classic mafia’ than DF being D1 lynched for low posting.
Hopefully they posts and we can make a read because lynching a low poster at random is a coin flip.
I would say ‘at random’ excludes meta reads. Lynching a low posting DF on day 1 feels like worse odds than a coin flip to me.
Pointing out that Finger showed inquisitiveness towards Llama (iirc) not mentioning DF while Golden is less concerned with putting the screws on DF.

Makes Golden look slightly too complacent maybe.
Fingersplints townier unless DF is mafia.

Maybe useful to go back to for pairings later.
What screws?
@Vivax i do actually want an answer to this.

It means pressuring someone. Since it's meta for DF to not post, that argument doesn't carry its old weight.

* Would like to see some more Wilgy input. The licks suggest townreads of sorts, vote was on Golden. Peculiar entrance bought Wilgy some leeway but if it's just that without updating, that alone in a room suggests that performance is the only priority.

*Eloh made a good point about Bea with the EoD awareness, but being right as scum is the easy part.

*I agree with I think G-Man that Bea's demeanor makes her a tougher lim, so no TR there.

*Quin trying to make an associative of Scotty/Eloh recently reads meh. But I suppose I tend to TR hot takes.

T: Llama, Scotty, Axe, Sloonei, Golden
Weak T: Quin

This post bothers me a bit cause there's been a few reasons to sus Eloh but I don't recall them being 'questioning and then flip flopping'. Seems like a misrep of the arguments. Role fishing looks superficial as a reason too, gut mafia read is a low poster. Sentence about Scotty/Golden is a thought more likely to come from mafia.

sig wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 5:03 pm I don’t find Elon questioning and then flip flopping as that scummy. It actually seems more likely to fit within her D1

Not a fan of Axe (I believe) role fishing about mason earlier.

DH is my gut mafia read since he’s around and posting but not really contributing yet.

Scotty/Golden are pinging me a bit for the heavy defense of me against Eloh claim it would be an easy move for mafia to make especially older mafia players who are used to me being Mislynched to get some civ points

Could use more input here too.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 6:33 pm
Vivax wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 6:31 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 6:24 pm
Vivax wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 6:23 pm Bea‘s avi looks like a croupier kitty. Tone worries me a bit.

May move Sloonei to town for that certain ballsiness, but I suspect theirs is some lazy meta read from being used to seeing me post more energetically.
Have we met before this game?
I‘m not sure how you‘d conclude I was posting too safely, otherwise. Because it‘s an accurate way to read me sometimes.

If not, it won‘t matter after a while depending on which facet of insanity helps me make my posts at a given moment.
Interesting.

The safety read was just a general sense I came up with when looking at your posts. What makes you say it’s accurate?

I drop off as scum activity-wise over the course of games.
I‘d agree that in this game I put in more effort to act diplomatically since most are new to me but I also assume them to be experienced.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 6:24 pm
Vivax wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 6:23 pm Bea‘s avi looks like a croupier kitty. Tone worries me a bit.

May move Sloonei to town for that certain ballsiness, but I suspect theirs is some lazy meta read from being used to seeing me post more energetically.
Have we met before this game?

I‘m not sure how you‘d conclude I was posting too safely, otherwise. Because it‘s an accurate way to read me sometimes.

If not, it won‘t matter after a while depending on which facet of insanity helps me make my posts at a given moment.

Bea‘s avi looks like a croupier kitty. Tone worries me a bit.

May move Sloonei to town for that certain ballsiness, but I suspect theirs is some lazy meta read from being used to seeing me post more energetically.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 5:30 pm Vivax is mafia.

That‘s offtopic

sig wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 5:03 pm I don’t find Elon questioning and then flip flopping as that scummy. It actually seems more likely to fit within her D1

Not a fan of Axe (I believe) role fishing about mason earlier.

DH is my gut mafia read since he’s around and posting but not really contributing yet.

Scotty/Golden are pinging me a bit for the heavy defense of me against Eloh claim it would be an easy move for mafia to make especially older mafia players who are used to me being Mislynched to get some civ points

Don‘t recall you getting heavily defended against Eloh.
Seems like an odd representation of two players TRing you

Dharma, llama I think are town
weaker TR on Wilgy

Could be tempted to townbin scotty + axe, but will decide later. More chaotic and less calculated suggests town)

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 4:08 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 4:05 pm
Golden wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 3:54 pm There would be nothing more ‘classic mafia’ than DF being D1 lynched for low posting.
Hopefully they posts and we can make a read because lynching a low poster at random is a coin flip.
I would say ‘at random’ excludes meta reads. Lynching a low posting DF on day 1 feels like worse odds than a coin flip to me.

Pointing out that Finger showed inquisitiveness towards Llama (iirc) not mentioning DF while Golden is less concerned with putting the screws on DF.

Makes Golden look slightly too complacent maybe.
Fingersplints townier unless DF is mafia.

Maybe useful to go back to for pairings later.

To better answer to Michelle‘s previous question: I don‘t think it‘s that relevant what kind of read on Scotty and Golden Eloh had. I don‘t really see the validity in your argument that I‘d only care to challenge reads of my TRa.

But my priority is finding town for now until everyone has done a bit more.

I assume that players that seem to withhold info are either mafia or conscious about their role, generally speaking.

21:xx here
Just realized we can change the subject of posts.

22 is quite close to the war lol

@ Michelle

Judging from my perspective I don't consider others' reads except they are my town reads. Had Eloh said they town read Scotty and Golden? Because if not, why do you think they should post more and reconsider?

It left a bad impression that Eloh claimed to have found a reason to be sus on sig but went off when a few dropped opposite conclusions. Maybe I'm expecting too much from early pages but that would have made for a fine topic to ruffle some heads early on if I were them.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 10:39 am
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sun Oct 23, 2022 8:22 pm Put a Finger Down - Mafia Edition

Put a finger down if you already have a suspect
*Places tongue down*

Who‘s the suspect tho ?

You open your door, see this

Spoiler: show

having to act quickly, you weigh your options

Spoiler: show

Townreads on Wilgy and Llama.
Don‘t hate the vote on DFaraday. Last post 1 h before n0 deadline.

Wilgy, did you see Scottys copycat post before or after you posted your copyrighted intro ?
Your posts sort of seemed to be in catch-up mode of progression but the order of your reactions wouldn't make much sense.

We got two TRs on sig from Scotty, then Golden. I'd agree with them I think.

I wonder why Eloh didn't post more when confronted with two townreads that went against his considerations that sig could be mafia.
Eloh's explanation for sig sus reads a bit stretched too. Would be my early whiff for a start.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 5:02 am I swear to God I'm going to ascend to Modhood just to modkill myself if another mothertrucker says aubergine one more time.

Are you flamboyantly declaring your intent to dastardly sacrifice yourself spectacularly ?

What happened to the last person that tried to feed you vegetable soup ?

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Oct 23, 2022 10:09 pm History would dictate that I should vote a no-poster here, but history also says you shouldn’t march on Russia in the winter. I think that’s crock, see? You just have to wear thicker outer layers and bring more rations. I have it all figured out! While other poindexters might put their head down and wait until summer to make an offensive push on the oppressive czar of the day, I confidently proclaim “naw,” get on my bike and ride forth, baby. Instead of following the narrative “learn from the past’s mistakes,” I choose to “make mistakes in the future.” I choose to never make new beginnings by always postponing the endings.

Life is a haiku made up of an infinite spew of lines.

Anyway, [VOTE: Bea] aubergine

Interesting that I had a similar thought during one of my latest games a month ago or so.

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Kinda inspired from this, or at least it comes closest:

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NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Oct 23, 2022 10:46 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Oct 23, 2022 10:45 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Sun Oct 23, 2022 10:40 pm I'm voting Scotty. Justice for dog.
>reads this
>looks at my profile picture
>rereads this

ok, this only ever comes from mafia.

Could you elaborate on the why ?

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