The Syndicate

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 10:05 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 10:04 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:03 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:02 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:00 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:58 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:57 am

ebwop

Why Porscha?

TMI slipped on my alignment

Do you have any actual reason or you just feeling out?

this is a very good and actual reason

do you think Porscha should have a town read on me so strong that she straight up calls someone's scumread on me wrong the way that she did?

I do not... I am not someone who should be cleared and shielded this flippantly...

it's just TMI

Mac lock town im hard shielding him

Mac is lock town for pointing out the most obvious atrocity in the game and not voting for it?

Translation:
Are you really townreading him for bad reasons now? Cmon bro he almost got himself voted.

Juicy post for later maybe.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 10:29 am

Vivax wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 10:26 amYou are making it clear that you are not tryharding.
But that doesn't stop you from coming into the thread and just talking your mind out without fear of repercussions.
Can only hope it's not wolf but I prefer to think not.

Right, that's kind of what I thought you meant. I'm a little bit curious how this matches up with your previous experience for me, cause I was very active in that game. But I'm getting into the territory where I have expectations for how you should take things, and that is often not a great way to go about things. Was just curious anyway

Expectations are typically the problem when others learn more about you, it makes them alter their usual behaviour so they don't provoke reactions that would cause them discomfort.
I can only hope that the expectation of my play isn't influencing you in that way. To me it helps to focus on my own writing.

It sometimes puts me in situations where I'm expected to pull a rabbit out of a hat sometimes without cues to bounce off.

@ Rondo

Doctor is not Mac, it's DrWilgy

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 10:22 am

Vivax wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:50 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:39 am Nice to see you again, @Vivax

Hey there, feeling's mutual. So far in the two games we played together you were one of the rare types I would only hesitantly want to call mafia. Was a nice surprise to see you in the playerlist.
Leaning town here cause you manage to confidently use a fraction of your possible effort while conversing.

Maybe you can help me out with the Rondo, Nook slots and chime in on the current hot potato named DrWilgy making its rounds (which would be my vote if I laid it down currently).

Interested in what you mean by the orange actually.

I don't think anyone can help you with Rondo. There is no cure for Rondo. In short, I have not been successful in reading him so far in the games I've had with him. I really don't know and I also haven't read his posts lol

You are making it clear that you are not tryharding.
But that doesn't stop you from coming into the thread and just talking your mind out without fear of repercussions.
Can only hope it's not wolf but I prefer to think not.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 10:10 am

Vivax wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 10:06 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 10:00 am

Vivax wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:58 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:49 am

Vivax wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:46 am Wolves don't need to pocket other wolves is a conspiracy theory tbh
But if Porscha W will be an interesting controversial angle to check for spew.

[VOTE: Vivax ] aubergine

Disagreeing is one thing, wolfreading me for valid logic another.
Ironically these are the most effective posts to avoid a backlash
from a player who was propagated to be a combatant

Its not the logic I dislike its the timing and the insinuation behind it

Insinuation? It looks like Porscha is taunting Tommy's ignorance of who you are in forum mafia.
Though I can see an angle where Tommy feigned that because it comes across as Cheeky.

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 12:07 am

Tommy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 03, 2022 11:30 pm Ohhh rondo is a player

how much FM have you played

And I assume there could be a motivation for Porscha to get on your good side while making this post, or looking like that's the intention.
The mockery of lack of information is not a townie thing to do in my books.

Then I guess I was assigning malice when there was none

Happens to the best.
Don't recall who exactly, but some game theory genius pleaded for MAD on his death bed decades ago. Seeing more possibilities can make you naturally paranoid, and pure rationality was the wrong solution.
Don't consider myself one, but I can intuitively pull out a wtf moment or more from time to time.

Are Porscha/Doctor valid elims to you right now? Axe just looks entrenched at this point.(apologies if you don't recognize yourself in my perception)

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 10:00 am

Vivax wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:58 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:49 am

Vivax wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:46 am Wolves don't need to pocket other wolves is a conspiracy theory tbh
But if Porscha W will be an interesting controversial angle to check for spew.

[VOTE: Vivax ] aubergine

Disagreeing is one thing, wolfreading me for valid logic another.
Ironically these are the most effective posts to avoid a backlash
from a player who was propagated to be a combatant

Its not the logic I dislike its the timing and the insinuation behind it

Insinuation? It looks like Porscha is taunting Tommy's ignorance of who you are in forum mafia.
Though I can see an angle where Tommy feigned that because it comes across as Cheeky.

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 12:07 am

Tommy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 03, 2022 11:30 pm Ohhh rondo is a player

how much FM have you played

And I assume there could be a motivation for Porscha to get on your good side while making this post, or looking like that's the intention.
The mockery of lack of information is not a townie thing to do in my books.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:49 am

Vivax wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:46 am Wolves don't need to pocket other wolves is a conspiracy theory tbh
But if Porscha W will be an interesting controversial angle to check for spew.

[VOTE: Vivax ] aubergine

Disagreeing is one thing, wolfreading me for valid logic another.
Ironically these are the most effective posts to avoid a backlash
from a player who was propagated to be a combatant

Wolves don't need to pocket other wolves is a conspiracy theory tbh
But if Porscha W will be an interesting controversial angle to check for spew.

Achromatic wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:41 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:38 am

Achromatic wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:29 am FWIW I don't feel good about Porscha/Tommy being a team just based off the almost mocking way Porscha asked Tommy for their FM experience after Tommy was like 'oh Rondo is a player'

can you pull quotes

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 12:07 am

Tommy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 03, 2022 11:30 pm Ohhh rondo is a player

how much FM have you played

I just found something so sincere in this question that my mind immediately went 'not aligned' tbh

Seems like a neutral question to me.
With a concealed payload of rondo pocketing.

Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 1:26 am Rondo and Seanzie on Mac eh. That looks fun

Vote Mac

Don't have history on this.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:56 am

Vivax wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:55 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:50 am

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:22 am So I have wolfreads on Achro, Axe, Flanders, Tommy, Vivax.

How many wolves are in this game?

Great reads but Vivax isn't mafia they are just an awkward human lol.

I don't see why you're treating the two as mutually exclusive.
And my mood today is no indicator for a future one. Every time I log back on, the mental wheel is spun anew.

Because I am pretty sure he's just scumreading you cuz ur weird and he needs to know that's NAI for you lol.

And beyond that I just think you're town.

Imagine carrying so much weirdness around but not on the outside in serious contexts. Of course I let it flow freely in a virtual space, it's a playful side of the same coin wherein the other is a very composed appearance.
I'm not sure if I should believe you are scumreading Achro or if it's just bait, but in the latter case it's probably expired.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:50 am

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:22 am So I have wolfreads on Achro, Axe, Flanders, Tommy, Vivax.

How many wolves are in this game?

Great reads but Vivax isn't mafia they are just an awkward human lol.

I don't see why you're treating the two as mutually exclusive.
And my mood today is no indicator for a future one. Every time I log back on, the mental wheel is spun anew.

Achromatic wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:40 am

Vivax wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:38 am Hey Kuti!
You can feel alarmed by the TR on you if you wish. I don't see a point in changing it in this gamestate.

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:31 am

Vivax wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:32 am You found the same post by Wilgie as scum but just went on a wild safari, sort of.
I don't know what that makes you yet, but I can assume you'd vote Wilgie at some point hopefully.

I had a feeling I shouldn't carelessly slap an alignment on you.

@Vivax can you explain this

Based on this post Rondo should have slapped a vote on Wilgy but decided to do a bit of stampeding elsewhere instead.
I couldn't help but imagine a chainspew of Lucy<-Wilgy<-Rondo at that point in the game.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Aug 03, 2022 11:03 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 03, 2022 10:35 pm Neat, Mac is town

Achro town

Lucy W

Sabi W

Sabi I am likely to flippy floppy on.

so you are wolf?

Why would Rondo do that?

Getting triggered by obviwolf post from teammate maybe? Then proceed to be an elephant in a China store to do a dance for MacDougall and you.
Or if he's wolf independently from Doc, leave behind a bad trace to them?
He's probably a better recipient for that question. I can just show you the imaginary extensions of my guesses.

Hey Kuti!
You can feel alarmed by the TR on you if you wish. I don't see a point in changing it in this gamestate.

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:31 am

Vivax wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:32 am You found the same post by Wilgie as scum but just went on a wild safari, sort of.
I don't know what that makes you yet, but I can assume you'd vote Wilgie at some point hopefully.

I had a feeling I shouldn't carelessly slap an alignment on you.

@Vivax can you explain this

Based on this post Rondo should have slapped a vote on Wilgy but decided to do a bit of stampeding elsewhere instead.
I couldn't help but imagine a chainspew of Lucy<-Wilgy<-Rondo at that point in the game.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Aug 03, 2022 11:03 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 03, 2022 10:35 pm Neat, Mac is town

Achro town

Lucy W

Sabi W

Sabi I am likely to flippy floppy on.

so you are wolf?

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:08 am

Vivax wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:05 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:02 am Lowkey prepared to lock town wilgy

Are you TMIing me town cause I scumread them?

What

Sorry. I just have the funny experience that I either nail reads at once or do the exact opposite and wolf side, until I decide to invert my view of the game after pestering towns to the point you could cook an egg on their head.
I thought maybe you were aware of that and since I was scumreading Wilgy you were pre-emptively inverting my read for that and the jab was directed at me. Seems just like an egocentrism issue on my part though.

Haven't looked at axe and flanders too intensely, but it looked like they were overwhelmingly paying attention to each other last I checked iirc. Very informative.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:02 am Lowkey prepared to lock town wilgy

Are you TMIing me town cause I scumread them?

I'm conflicted whether I should indulge Dougall in voting him while thinking he's town. No hammers anyway, so why bother. But maybe a halo will pop out above his head after a certain amount.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:51 am

Vivax wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:50 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:39 am Nice to see you again, @Vivax

Hey there, feeling's mutual. So far in the two games we played together you were one of the rare types I would only hesitantly want to call mafia. Was a nice surprise to see you in the playerlist.
Leaning town here cause you manage to confidently use a fraction of your possible effort while conversing.

Maybe you can help me out with the Rondo, Nook slots and chime in on the current hot potato named DrWilgy making its rounds (which would be my vote if I laid it down currently).

Why not lay down your vote already?

Because I'm a tad tired and burnt out and posting + voting around here makes me feel like I should hold the game to a higher standard, it's taking me a longer time to decide how to wrap up a post.
For no particularly discernible reason except maybe an abundance of interesting players. Or the old-school design of the site having something like a special touch.
I'm posting closer to my mafia meta for that reason. Self conscious something something.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:39 am Nice to see you again, @Vivax

Hey there, feeling's mutual. So far in the two games we played together you were one of the rare types I would only hesitantly want to call mafia. Was a nice surprise to see you in the playerlist.
Leaning town here cause you manage to confidently use a fraction of your possible effort while conversing.

Maybe you can help me out with the Rondo, Nook slots and chime in on the current hot potato named DrWilgy making its rounds (which would be my vote if I laid it down currently).

You found the same post by Wilgie as scum but just went on a wild safari, sort of.
I don't know what that makes you yet, but I can assume you'd vote Wilgie at some point hopefully.

I had a feeling I shouldn't carelessly slap an alignment on you.

Lucy, DrWilgie, Porscha currently where I'd look at the most for mafia. Preference for DrWilgie.

Wilgie's townread on Mac-Achro felt a bit like TMI snap reaction to seeing vote on Lucy and the later explanation that they were going to do it but didn't because achro did it first...is feh.
Lucy cause the tone seems a bit electrified, very keen on being generally helpful, and some association bias from reading Wilgie's reaction.
Porscha cause of post saying they didn't really have an opinion on Sean. Acceptable, but also comes across as lazy to me and embracing the convenience of early days to withhold information as mafia is legitimate. Not going to charge here for now.
Nook, Rondo worth a look into. Openwolfy perhaps?

Don't know why but Rondo makes me think of a floodgate struggling to keep itself shut. But I tend to imagine things sometimes.

Sean on a null with emphasis. Some posts would impress me if wolf. I know I said it already but I'll say it again after an ISO.

Thanks a lot. ISOs accessible like back on my homesite then.

On a reread, Seanzie and Achro stick out to me.
Achro more in their own category compared to lucy-kuti exchanges. Self-conscious early posts.
The vote on Lucy by Achro after being pinged my Mac reads really like a nervous snap reaction. Got a caveat for intentionality here, it's an elegant way to force a null read on it.
Feels like town-town though. Both sides seem to attempt an entrapment of the other.

At the bottom of P3 I spot this which gives me somewhat wolfy vibes. Mostly cause of the wolfreads which come across as a hasty mini-PoE, and cause I'm secretly hoping that the T-T interpretation is TMI and aligns with mine.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 03, 2022 10:35 pm Neat, Mac is town

Achro town

Lucy W

Sabi W

Sabi I am likely to flippy floppy on.

Seanzie stuck out cause he gave me the impression overall of being a head periodically emerging from the ground to drop off the spiciest and most impetuous take of the moment with little regard for its validity. I don't know how I should classify that strategy yet.
Tommy feeling a bit overwhelmed? I'd guess, not really a lot of oomph in the posts but I suppose that could be townie.

This game vibes very differently from other experiences so far. Almost higher pitch, but maybe it's just the different site.
If you've got tips on how to compact the posts, I'll gladly take them.
Bit fried right now, but am more or less caught up on a first read and still far from having any idea how to approach the game.

Find the roster fairly hard to read, would probably throw a townread on kuti in for starters.
MacDougall quite the apparition, as usual. I'll keep him at a cautious null instead of voting him I think. Though he has already caused a good cleave in the thread based on his alignment, so on the townier side. Will decide later if I sheep.
Dyslexicon went into subduction after game start and someone instacalled them mafia.

After reviewing my first reaction upon checking in briefly, I won't really go Flanders but vibes from Dr.Wilgy felt alright at first glance.

This post is controlled and certified for my mafia meta TM

Beautiful being town, I always get to blame others if I die before LYLO.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 03, 2022 7:08 pm Alas. It is time to work out.

I hate the gym.

If not everyone has checked in by the time I've finished my work out though, we are hammering Flanders, no exceptions.

I feel like just blindly listening to this post. Intuition.
Avatar later.