The Syndicate

S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 12:27 pm My top 3 would be Creature, Scotty and Sean. In this game mech talk is beneficial, and they’re trying to figure out the most beneficial way to use the extra layer the breaths mechanic provides to the towns best advantage.

I also think Neon is on her town game.

Mid tier is Falcon, nutella and sig. screenplay, too.

Pyxxy only posted OT afaik. Gira hasn’t showed up.

As of now, I think Omega and/or Lucy are bad.

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 12:27 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 12:23 pm

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 12:13 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 12:12 pm

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 12:03 pm im up now

what’s up sog

My mental is tilted now, so I might afk this thread in protest

Nice. Let's all go on strike

Lets

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 12:24 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 12:23 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 12:12 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 8:36 am @lucy to answer your plea honestly, the tl;dr of my mech post is this:

If you look like you’re about to be chopped, it’s best to give away your breath early in the game. If multiple town have been mischopped already, unless someone claims to have ~3 breaths and seems townread, I would just let your breath die with you.

Maybe.

I'll never give away my breath. Unless I did already.

PS I did. I have given it to the player who is a mechanical God and will understand how to utilize it mechanically better than I ever could

Thanks for the breath.

(note: this is a joke)

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 12:23 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 12:22 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 12:04 pm 3 people in a row town reading sig and it’s weirding me out

If it helps I disagree lol

Now we're getting somewhere

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 12:21 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 12:18 pm [VOTE: Neon] aubergine

hate when my partner starts lolcatting

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 12:20 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 12:15 pm Also exactly one in DoO Sig Me Lucy.

This is real. But don't ask why. Or do.

why

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 12:13 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 12:12 pm

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 12:03 pm im up now

what’s up sog

My mental is tilted now, so I might afk this thread in protest

Neon wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 12:12 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 8:36 am @lucy to answer your plea honestly, the tl;dr of my mech post is this:

If you look like you’re about to be chopped, it’s best to give away your breath early in the game. If multiple town have been mischopped already, unless someone claims to have ~3 breaths and seems townread, I would just let your breath die with you.

Maybe.

I'll never give away my breath. Unless I did already.

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 12:04 pm 3 people in a row town reading sig and it’s weirding me out

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 11:45 am 3 votes on lucy huh.

I grouped her with creature and neon up there but tbh she is more null than them. I don't know her wolf game or what to look for really

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 10:34 am I vote

Sig
Screenplay
Falcon

for people to give breaths to.

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 8:36 am @lucy to answer your plea honestly, the tl;dr of my mech post is this:

If you look like you’re about to be chopped, it’s best to give away your breath early in the game. If multiple town have been mischopped already, unless someone claims to have ~3 breaths and seems townread, I would just let your breath die with you.

Maybe.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 8:20 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 7:31 amNeon/Nutella?

Nutella has not made an impression on me either way, she’s been mostly NAI. I was leaning town on Neon.

What are you seeing that I’m not?

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 7:31 amNeon/Nutella?

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2023 10:22 pm Has anyone here ever worked at KFC before?





I need that recipe plz

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2023 9:50 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2023 9:47 pm

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2023 9:43 pm Anyone want to write an essay on the different beliefs/regimes that exist in china, france, and germany?

China, France, and Germany have different political systems and beliefs.

In China, the government is led by the Chinese Communist Party (CCP), which advocates for socialism with Chinese characteristics. The CCP is a single-party system, meaning that only one political party is allowed to hold power. The Chinese government exercises strict control over the media, the internet, and public opinion, and there are limited freedoms of speech, assembly, and religion. The CCP also emphasizes economic development and growth, which has led to China becoming the world's second-largest economy.

In France, the political system is a semi-presidential representative democratic republic. The French government is led by the President, who is elected for a five-year term, and the Prime Minister, who is appointed by the President. France has a multi-party system, with parties from both the left and the right. French politics is characterized by a strong tradition of secularism and a commitment to civil liberties, such as freedom of speech, religion, and assembly.

In Germany, the political system is a federal parliamentary republic. The German government is led by the Chancellor, who is elected by the Bundestag (the federal parliament), and the President, who is the head of state. Germany has a multi-party system, with parties from the left, center, and right. Germany is known for its strong social welfare system and a commitment to environmental protection. The country also places a strong emphasis on cultural and historical preservation.

In conclusion, China, France, and Germany have different political systems and beliefs. China is a single-party system that emphasizes economic growth, France is a semi-presidential representative democratic republic that values civil liberties, and Germany is a federal parliamentary republic that places a strong emphasis on social welfare and cultural preservation.

Creature did not write this.

lucy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2023 9:40 pm i could've fucking 500 posted d1 and neon wouldn't have vigged me in goc ugh

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2023 9:38 pm Ah yes because I can't 500 post I must be mafia. Sloonei moment

lucy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2023 9:37 pmare u even real

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2023 9:34 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2023 9:14 pm where's the 1-2 sentence tldr

The writer of this passage is discussing the concept of "Breaths" in a game, which can be given to other players and increase their abilities. They discuss the likelihood of giving breaths to others, the benefits of reaching certain levels of breath, and the potential implications of Vasher's abilities. The writer believes that Vasher's abilities could be detrimental to the town's win condition and discusses their prediction for Vasher's role in the game.

lucy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2023 9:31 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2023 9:28 pm Bruh this game is so slow

yeah, idk why lol

people don't get emails for syndicate so that might contribute

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2023 9:32 pm I bet no one read Scotty's post.

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2023 9:09 pm ok mech talk. (If you don’t like mech talk, put your fingers in your ears and make ambulance sounds)

I dunno if anyone else has read the book, but I have some ideas on a few things. It’s hard to talk about em without spoiling the book but in general I’m going to talk around certain mech that doesn’t spoil too much.


So hypothetically, if every person gave me their breath today, and I was then elim’d at end of day, all breaths in the game (save for secrets we don’t know from Vasher) would be gone. Kablooey. No respawn.

Breaths don’t seem to be something that can grow in trees. I find it likely that we lose more breaths from people NK’d than we end up giving to others. Which means reaching multiple heightenings is going to be few and far between. Only mafia can coordinate best in that regard.

So benefits of giving breaths is something I see most efficiently utilized if you know are you about to be eliminated and don’t want to waste your breath. Giving it to your one or two top town reads is probably just the move.

Currently if I gave my breath to someone at random, I have a 66% chance to hit a town. Which are meh odds, but not terrible. If we miselim today, it turns into probably a 50% chance if we were to do the same tomorrow. If we yeet mafia today, it turns into 70% chance tomorrow which isn’t bad, but not that different from today. I guess 66% is fine, but not a bet I’m always ready to make. Definitely not at 50%.

The human aspect of this is that I think people are far less likely to just..give their breath away. So this is probably all moot. And the heightenings are probably not a thing to count on this game.

Anyone else can weigh in on this, but if we miselim today, the odds get worse of successfully randomly giving our breath to a town for the rest of the game unless mafia are systematically voted out, but I don’t like the risk of giving away breaths on a day with no info.

So. I’m probably not gonna give my breath away for that reason.

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“The second heightening: MAFIA (4 breaths)
Mafia who achieve the second heightening may choose at night to janitor next yeet as long as they have voted for the person yeeted.”

This is a questionable ability because it’s expensive and potentially outing for mafia to do so if we can see vote totals. I wouldn’t hinge on mafia using this unless, like, everyone voted for one player the day before.

“The second heightening: TOWN (4 breaths)
Town who achieve the second heightening now have the capacity to protect themselves or others from a night kill. Attempting to do so will reduce the submitter's total breaths by one.”

This is a great ability and is probably the bread and butter of town’s utility. I don’t see anywhere that says claiming is not allowed, but claiming to have 4 breaths is probably something we should consider in our arsenal.

If someone came into day saying “I have 3 breaths” it may be in a 1-breath town’s best interest to volunteer their breath to that player to bolster the group.
Could the 3 breather be mafia? Sure? Could the person offering to gift the breath be lying? Sure. But I think it’s something to consider down the line.

“The third heightening (6 breaths)
Players who achieve the third heightening will now resist a nightkill or negative action taken against the player who has achieved the third heightening. If this ability is used, the player will return to having a single breath. Further, if they submit to use this power and a protection does not occur the power will not qualify as being used.”

This one confounds me. Because how I’m reading this is whoever reaches 6 breaths can just protect themself as infinitum, every night. So as long as they don’t get yeeted or POISONED, they’re invincible, since they just get to do it again the next night if they were protected. Until they get NK’d, and lose 5 breaths. But it sounds worth it.

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The other thing is Vasher. I’m not going to spoil it, but he’s got some interesting stuff going on, and even though the syntax says that he gives his sword away to poison someone, but the power will ‘not qualify as being used’ if the target isn’t yeeted end of day. We know from the role list that mafia can’t be poisoned until the leader is killed, and light song can’t be poisoned.


What we don’t know:
-what constitutes a successful poison?
-will the poisoned player be announced publically?

So what we can infer:
-poisoning will most likely kill at end of day unless that player can’t be poisoned
-both factions have at least 1 player that can’t be poisoned, which means VT town could just be poisoned and killed off as a regular target. This means that Vasher is tried and true 3p that doesn’t serve town wincon. Because then he would just be a town.

Austere this is so hard to talk about with spoilering the book. I have reason to believe the sword, however, will mostly function as a means for Vasher to fulfill his win con in searching for mafia. But if he can only do it once per game? Something doesn’t add up if it also kills town. Unless he gets it back.

Here’s my prediction with mech and theme:
-Vasher starts with 6 breaths. He can’t give them. They’re probably used for a role ability.
-VT can probably be poisoned, but it probably doesn’t fulfill vasher’s wincon. But because he can secondhand kill town, he’s not on town’s side per se. But I would wager he’s more of a town-siding 3P than we can usually expect.
-So he probably has to spend breath or something to get the sword back and try again.

ps I am not Vasher, but if Vasher revealed himself I wouldn’t be immediately on the train to kill him


Thanks for coming to mech talk.

lucy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2023 7:24 pm

sig wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2023 7:21 pm

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2023 7:05 pm I think Lucy could be evil

Agreed sensing a wolffish vibe

any tips on how to be towny when you enter a thread? i've forgotten how to do that

lucy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2023 7:01 pm @Neon don't vote me mf

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2023 6:54 pm

sig wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2023 6:52 pm

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2023 6:49 pm I'm sitting here trying to understand mafia mechanics, while also trying to break MU's ban evading rules, and I haven't even began writing an essay due for my comparative governments class

we need more hours in the day

lol what did you do to get banned on MU

The answer to the question why I was banned, and the answer to why I'm still banned are completely different

since you want the reason from 5 years ago, post# 101 in the MU ban log.

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2023 6:36 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2023 5:20 pm Neon here to 500 post every day

oh colours no

lucy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2023 6:11 pm @Neon why are u voting me

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2023 5:36 pm Three of the non-Creature players who have posted so far are mafia and one of them is independent. Can the independent stand up so I can lynch the other three?

S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2023 5:31 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2023 5:25 pm By the colors! what have we here?

A game where thirteen players are gonna put up a 85 page day one, apparently.

lucy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2023 5:23 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2023 5:20 pm [VOTE: Lucy] aubergine

1984