The Syndicate

tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 4:28 pm

Zenon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 4:26 pm

tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 4:23 pm the problem on my end is that i think there's plenty of villagery people that im sort of contempt in killing a few slots and not re-evaluating until i have reason to do so

im a bit lazy nowadays cuz im confident no matter how wrong i am early, i'll turn it around later, so im not as worried on getting it right early or trying too hard

I mean... same. But I'm willing to read why Belzy is wolf. The problem is...I just don't see the wolfy ness I've read the case I think it's weak

i think the case has become that their reaction to the case was bad, which i can't really disagree with

they're sussing 2 likely town (fmpov) as wolves and immediately went on to call svs a liar, despite there not being a lie, just a misunderstanding. the reaction isn't too great

Yeah but would you not be frustrated if you felt you were being unfairly represented and ganged up on?

Belzy was getting ganged up on. It was an echo chamber. There was one person willing to say this is not fair and it was me but I didn't get my hands that dirty to defend so it was Belzy against everyone the VC proves that. And when that's happened and you're getting emotional you snap read the people frustrating you upsetting you as wolf.

I've done it. My friends have done it. It's not a wolfy reaction. It can be but not always

Am I wrong?

tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 4:27 pm so, im down to kill wilgy

he's pretty much going fully with the threadflow when he's against it generally, and he swapped his vote on thunal. no matter her alignment, i think it looks bad (for him). not to mention he's just not villagery and maybe he'll start playing the game in this way

Wilgy is gimmicky but you can read into it. The question is, is what they are saying actually wolfy.

They just called LC a wolf for a post that reading it does kinda feel like it's a set up to multiple misexes that's pretty good

tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 4:25 pm

Zenon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 4:22 pm Their explanation and genuine frustration over a push that is pretty overall weak

i don't disagree here. i think that there is a lack of motivation / agenda for why they'd do it as a wolf

like if i were a wolf and making a lot of posts on why thunal was a villager / nothing about people's cases on them was good, and my great wolf plan would be to sneak a vote in to get her killed when it'll be obvious from the poll...

that doesn't really sound like a wolf plan to me

Correct. Thank you okay I was beginning to gaslight myself lol

And I trust myself. But I'm also part of the problem. Im aware of this lol

tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 4:23 pm the problem on my end is that i think there's plenty of villagery people that im sort of contempt in killing a few slots and not re-evaluating until i have reason to do so

im a bit lazy nowadays cuz im confident no matter how wrong i am early, i'll turn it around later, so im not as worried on getting it right early or trying too hard

I mean... same. But I'm willing to read why Belzy is wolf. The problem is...I just don't see the wolfy ness I've read the case I think it's weak

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 4:24 pm

Dunno who your clapping for but I am gonna assume it's me just for my own sanity lol

S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 4:19 pm

Zenon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 4:16 pm Nobody listens

They talk past each other they refuse to work together they push their pet reads without cooperation

I agree with you 100% here.

Yeah because it's true and it's been happening a lot and real talk syndicate is or was my favorite place to play mafia over the last year but over this last month I've been enjoying MU and FoL more town is losing every game I feel like I can't get anyone to hear me anymore and it's frustrating. I don't know how to fix it. I don't know how to get people to listen.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 4:15 pm

Zenon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 4:14 pm Because I don't have a foothold into it anymore

What can we do to find you a new foothold?

At this point I'm not sure. I'd need another town I trust as much as robyn and Belz and I don't have anyone even close to that

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 4:14 pm

Zenon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 3:34 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 12:08 pm

Zenon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 11:53 amGGs town

Why the sassy attitude?

Cause town never wins on this site and it's happening again lol

Okay, but are you helping to change that? Or are you just going to spend the game complaining?

Cmon now, you're pretty widely townread by this point. Give us some words about why Belzy is town or anything you want to say.

I have given the words

Their treatment of me. Which people read as pockety but like really wasn't especially when the easy play was to keep me on the table.

How they tried to work with me early was towny.

Their explanation and genuine frustration over a push that is pretty overall weak was towny. I could be wrong or could be caught for the wrong reasons but when I read it I see genuine frustration

Their vibes their play their emotion their style its entirely devoid of wolfy motivation

The end

And I don't know how to fix it I don't

I've fought for my town reads game in and game out and they've died game in and game out and they've flipped town game in and game out

So like I'm supposed to make a case and change this game and save my read and win the game but I'm so disillusioned with how play has been lately

Now I could be wrong but my read accuracy on town is greater than rand

And I can sit here and scream and make my case and tell you why you're wrong till I'm blue in the face but it's gonna accomplish nothing.

Because reevaluating is not what you want to do and the proof is there just look at how SVS has reacted to Belzy. To me.

Okay like SVS isn't trying to solve Belzy. SVS isn't trying to understand Belzy.

It didn't use to be like that but it is now

Nobody listens

They talk past each other they refuse to work together they push their pet reads without cooperation

But the problem here on syndicate for the past like 5 games on this site specifically is that doesn't happen

I may not find you scum

But I can lower the PoE correctly given the ability to connect to the game

And maybe I'm not that important

But

Maybe I am considering in my last 5 games across all sites I've been wrong on like 1 town core read total.

Because I don't have a foothold into it anymore

Because when I lose my town reads I lose my connection to the game

Once you've killed Belzy you've killed literally my only two town cores my only masons and my only connection to this game

Probably T v T

But I'm so annoyed

This entire case is weak and weird

tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 3:40 pm

Zenon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 3:37 pm A top wagon all day that's never been close and has 6 votes right now

This will surely flip wolf

not unheard of, if a wolf reacts badly then even wolves will notice it and get in on the ground early too

But... Belzy didn't react badly lol

So like my faith. Near zero. Especially with that awful robyn kill

tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 3:36 pm

Zenon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 3:34 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 12:08 pm

Zenon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 11:53 amGGs town

Why the sassy attitude?

Cause town never wins on this site and it's happening again lol

we won our last game, let's run it back to back!

You right. But I've lost 8 out of my last 9 on this site including a game where I had a fucking mech red

A top wagon all day that's never been close and has 6 votes right now

This will surely flip wolf

Belzy
6
38%
Voters: Epignosis, Thunal33, S~V~S, DrWilgy, fingersplints, Seanzie

This is so bad lol

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 12:08 pm

Zenon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 11:53 amGGs town

Why the sassy attitude?

Cause town never wins on this site and it's happening again lol

GGs town

S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 9:09 am

Zenon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 9:05 am

S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 6:47 am

Zenon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 6:11 am Kinda agree with everything Belzy is saying lol

As I said last night, I would expect nothing less.

I was right on robyn.

Perhaps you should listen to me.

Doesn’t make you right on this. We’re in that everything I say, you disagree with loop we always get in.

You do you, Zenon. I expect you to disagree with me. It’s NAI at this point.

Thing is...I am right

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 9:07 am

Zenon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 9:05 am

S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 6:47 am

Zenon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 6:11 am Kinda agree with everything Belzy is saying lol

As I said last night, I would expect nothing less.

I was right on robyn.

Perhaps you should listen to me.

I to love rufus

S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 6:47 am

Zenon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 6:11 am Kinda agree with everything Belzy is saying lol

As I said last night, I would expect nothing less.

I was right on robyn.

Perhaps you should listen to me.

Kinda agree with everything Belzy is saying lol

Belzy wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:17 am

fingersplints wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:13 am

Belzy wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 4:36 am Also, if SVS was here to see my misclick: why wait until today mentioning it? Could have asked me about it. Oh, that is right... I am being framed here.

Killed Kate, frames me for it, ...says I pocket Thunal, ...either SVS pockets Thunal, or are w together. Thunal's d2 is also fishy enouhg, so could be. And/or epi. Or...

Svs would not have killed kate

So SVS says Thunal would not kill Kate
And you now say that

You all know me less, so you cannot say it about me

Sucks to be an outstander

I town read you and think this entire thing is ridiculous if that helps at all... it probably doesn't

fingersplints wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:04 am Voting belzy for that nonsense

Lmfaooooo

I'll admit I'm in pretty low WiM tier right now

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 2:15 am If Belzy town then Thunal and SVS both maf.

This is the world we are living in thunal should be turbod

I've explained my Belzy town read. It remains.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 9:57 pm

Zenon wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 9:45 pmBelzy is town

I wouldn’t expect you to say otherwise.

And no, she isn’t.

Yeah she is

For fun I'll also say SVS is a wolf and vote them

But my wolf reads notoriously suck

Let's see if I'm 2 for 2

Belzy is town

Zenon wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 7:02 pmWooooo

It's like Zenon why even try you know

You have high as fuck read accuracy on town reads but you aren't good enough to explain them so nobody is gonna listen

Wooooo

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 5:04 pm

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 4:48 pm To literally anyone on my wagon: why? I haven't seen any reasons other than "acted weird" and "was on Robyn's wagon".

Acted weird.

Acted wolfy

S~V~S wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 5:04 pm @Zenon thanks for the explanation, I must have missed it when I read your posts.

Also agree re Robyn walking away before the situation plays out being NAI.

I don’t see her as towny though, so there’s that.

She's town bet

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 4:53 pm

Zenon wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 4:42 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 3:46 pm

Zenon wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 3:22 pm Voters: Master Radishes, S~V~S, tedxtr, Thunal33

There is a wolf on this wagon

Bet

I feel this post on a cellular level.

I bet a million dubloons the wolf stays with the Letter T

T

i find your stubbornness admirable

/still not home

Thank you Mac says it's what makes me special

Kate wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 3:46 pm

Zenon wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 3:22 pm Voters: Master Radishes, S~V~S, tedxtr, Thunal33

There is a wolf on this wagon

Bet

I feel this post on a cellular level.

I bet a million dubloons the wolf stays with the Letter T

T

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 3:41 pm

robyn wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 3:32 pm this was unnecessarily stressful
i stop looking at the thread and i don't really care about it
i could get the wagon off me but i just don't care
this is boring
i'm glad my mafia addiction is over

anyone who knows Robyn, is this towny for them? It is for a lot of people but I've seen them display a lot of emotion in a game as a wolf.

This is robyn not enjoying mafia anymore and presumably quitting the game. That's not towny or wolfy it's NAI but robyn was already towny so