The Syndicate

Unnecessary

GGs I love you all <3 tried our best

EoD in 20 minutes nobody here

As town

And just to make this abundantly clear

I THINK JJJ is a wolf

But I KNOW Moto is a wolf and that's why I'm gonna fight for them to die first with every last breath I have because there is a 100% chance moto is a wolf

There's at least a 50% chance JJJ decided to fps

Give me my viking funeral...

Well honestly I didn't play my role correctly

If I was not an idiot I would have confirmed a red n2 but I'm an idiot who was to upset d1 to play enough attention to the claim to realize tutuu was a self protect d1 so I fucked that up too

But I didn't fuck up today

Anyways logic dictates one and only one of me and JJJ is lying and you already know that JJJ killed a town

I'm not gonna kill a town because I'm actually the lookout and I actually caught a wolf killing Rondo

I'm not even trying to save JJJ I want to kill my mech red so that I can die tonight because I've done nothing useful all game and I hate myself. I hate my play this game. It fucking sucks. And I caught a scum and I'm happy about it and I come in to today and just get told I'm a wolf for playing my role correctly

The literal correct play is to kill Moto today prove me kill JJJ tomorrow since he's claiming my role

Instead we are just delaying this decision one day where you will all vote me so I get to be kept alive another night because wolfs can just miskill me even though I did something right

I wasn't allowed to talk yesterday so I couldn't CC JJJs bullshit but I'm allowed to talk today and I have mech

There's zero reason people should be unwilling to prove me today we just delay this till tomorrow when town throws anyways

Should've killed myself this game since town is gonna just fucking misexe their lookout in mylo tomorrow over some stupid tinfoil that the real lookout decided

Yes you know what the play is silence me so I can make the same play 2 days in a row

I kill myself because I'm a problem

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 6:59 pm Yeh you self hammer if its beneficial in the same way you snap vote in lylo when its beneficial

Snap voting in limlo wins games

I'm wrong way less than I'm right

But whatever

Literally throwing whatever

Vote JJJ

My claim is fucking real this is so fucking infuriating

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 6:23 pm
Zenon wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 5:20 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 1:03 pm Especially when you're always doing self voting and hammering
Harmful
If objectively stating what you do is harmful then stop doing it to yourself

I don't self hammer unless it's beneficial

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 6:23 pm
Zenon wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 5:20 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 1:02 pm
Zenon wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 5:20 am
Ricochet wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 4:46 am
Zenon wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 4:43 am You don't risk the game on a maybe when you have a gurantee
You call it a guarantee, even though your read could be just as corrupt as Jay’s has proven to be. Or the killer cannot be tracked. Or various other mech difficulties.

There is no objective guarantee with this.
Well I mean I know I'm the role I claim with the results I claim so like yes it's a guarantee fmpov

But like are you willing to risk the game on trying to play "is Zenon lying?"
That's every game we play that you're also in lol
True. Wanna risk mylo on it though? I don't.
Then why are you offering to do it? Unless flipping you wouldnt end the game cuz you're wolfing and just using the tactic to wifom scare off anyone from your wagon lol...

I already explained I didn't know it was mylo

Gambling on jjj in mylo over a mech red is suicide

This is an awful performance and is frustrating to me because I actually finally did something

Do you know how fucking annoying it is to spend day 1 upset and do nothing

Spend day 2 trying to get your footing and do nothing

Spend day 3 silenced and do nothing

And than you fucking finally get a result and you have info and even though you have been useless you finally have value and nobody will fucking listen

I legit can't believe town is gonna throw this

Cool chill awesome dope so glad we are asleep at the wheel killing a fucking maybe when I have a gurantee

Fire play guys

Belzy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 3:59 pm
Zenon wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 4:36 am
Ricochet wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 12:25 am It's not necessarily the motivation tanking, it's the mech claim making players park a vote and bail on play for a second phase running.

Though the JJJ voters are the ones active and talking.

Zenon now wants to be flipped, but that's game-losing if she is indeed town, so what's the point of this request, if town?

motobot parked a vote, didn't even post.

Porscha is among the talkers, but seems to hold on to voting.

Falcon is bail on activity, either that's wolf leisure or, as I've said, I need a manual on how he can decide to play like this as town.
It's not game losing it guarantees my info which proves 2 things

Moto is guaranteed wolf

JJJ is >rand wolf because no host is giving two identical roles to town
You are wolf with JJJ. I bet my life on it.

Holy fucking shit we are gonna lose the game on this nonsense lol... kill the fucking gurantee omg

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 1:03 pm Especially when you're always doing self voting and hammering

Harmful

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 1:02 pm
Zenon wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 5:20 am
Ricochet wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 4:46 am
Zenon wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 4:43 am You don't risk the game on a maybe when you have a gurantee
You call it a guarantee, even though your read could be just as corrupt as Jay’s has proven to be. Or the killer cannot be tracked. Or various other mech difficulties.

There is no objective guarantee with this.
Well I mean I know I'm the role I claim with the results I claim so like yes it's a guarantee fmpov

But like are you willing to risk the game on trying to play "is Zenon lying?"
That's every game we play that you're also in lol

True. Wanna risk mylo on it though? I don't.

I know the mech is scary but I want to be useful this game has blown chunks for me like as in I'm playing poorly not as in I'm unhappy with the game design or not having fun I'm just playing bad. Last night I did something good and I want it to matter.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 6:26 am *checks game*

yep looks like we're still screwed

Wanna vote the mech outed scum pls

That's a question for all of town

Ricochet wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 4:46 am
Zenon wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 4:43 am You don't risk the game on a maybe when you have a gurantee
You call it a guarantee, even though your read could be just as corrupt as Jay’s has proven to be. Or the killer cannot be tracked. Or various other mech difficulties.

There is no objective guarantee with this.

Well I mean I know I'm the role I claim with the results I claim so like yes it's a guarantee fmpov

But like are you willing to risk the game on trying to play "is Zenon lying?"

Always vote the mech in mylo

Ricochet wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 4:43 am
Zenon wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 4:42 am
Ricochet wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 4:38 am It’s lylo if it’s 6 vs 4, moto flips town and mafia reaches parity with night kill.

Same if we flip you, just like you said, which is insane talk coming from town in this scenario.

It may also be gg if mafia has the mechanical votes.
Wait... it's 6 v 4

Well than we always flip the mech here wtf
I’m down.

Dunno why you asked to be flipped, then.

Didn't realize it was mylo obvs i have barely been paying attention

You don't risk the game on a maybe when you have a gurantee

Ricochet wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 4:38 am It’s lylo if it’s 6 vs 4, moto flips town and mafia reaches parity with night kill.

Same if we flip you, just like you said, which is insane talk coming from town in this scenario.

It may also be gg if mafia has the mechanical votes.

Wait... it's 6 v 4

Well than we always flip the mech here wtf

Look. I fucking hate mech. I wouldn't be bringing it up unless I'm telling the truth or making a wolf gambit. And I am willing to die to prove that it's the truth

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 3:05 am
Ricochet wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 12:29 am I say we flip the moto read. That's my Occam take. If we lose, gg, congrats wolfs.

Zenon being town and asking to be flipped is a self-destructive town move or a wolf flaunt. Welcome to WIFOMville.
Can we please elim this?

No because killing moto is the correct play

Ricochet wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 12:25 am It's not necessarily the motivation tanking, it's the mech claim making players park a vote and bail on play for a second phase running.

Though the JJJ voters are the ones active and talking.

Zenon now wants to be flipped, but that's game-losing if she is indeed town, so what's the point of this request, if town?

motobot parked a vote, didn't even post.

Porscha is among the talkers, but seems to hold on to voting.

Falcon is bail on activity, either that's wolf leisure or, as I've said, I need a manual on how he can decide to play like this as town.

It's not game losing it guarantees my info which proves 2 things

Moto is guaranteed wolf

JJJ is >rand wolf because no host is giving two identical roles to town

Pleaseeeee

Kill me.

Kill me into moto and than Jay

There's no shot there's 2 identical roles on town so kill me see my flip confirm me and than fucking listen to me

Ricochet wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 5:31 am Please compare

Zenon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 11:09 pm
I see every one who visits a target

I watched Rondo

Moto visited

Moto killed

Moto is scum

GGs

Zenon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 11:24 pm
I'm quite literally a lookout yes lol my flavor is a pirate and I use my spyglass to see everyone who targeted the player the night I watch them

I fucked up thinking Tutuu would get killed N1 because I didn't understand how her claimed role worked so I watched her n1 there's no double targeting so I tried to watch her n2 but couldn't do I watched JJJ n2 no visits wish I had flipped those but oh well

Watched Rondo last night 1 visit moto

Rondo dead

GGs caught wolf
Deduction:

100% result that moto is bad
If this flips false, 100% certainty that Zenon wolf bullshiter.

VS

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Jul 17, 2023 12:18 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jul 16, 2023 8:06 pm Probably a good look for meatbaby too, even if they clearly had frustrations with tutuu
I lied.

I have a 1-shot watcher ability, and I watched tutuu last night. meatbaby visited her.

[VOTE: die_meatbaby] aubergine
Deduction:

No clear result that meatbaby was the sole visitor (aka killer).
No clear result (or clarification) that JJJ could track every visit.
Meatbaby flipped town: no 100% certainy JJJ was bullshitter (and not blunderer).

Yes correct pls kill the guarantee pls dear God

Ricochet wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 5:04 am If we lynch JJJ and he is town, we’re left in lylo with flipping moto. If that also flips town, gg zenon.

Should honestly flip me or the confirmed red first for this reason but nobody wants to trust mech over a potentially flawed social read

Ricochet wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 4:34 am The most tinfoil detail about Zenon’s claim could be that it’s overpowered. Contrary to JJJ’s ability claim, Zenon would track every visit. And confirmation that there was only one visit, moto’s.

If not for this difference, Zenon’s claim would be identical to JJJ’s.

Except it's not that op

I can't double target. I have to correctly guess who in the pl is going to be night killed in order to have a useful inspect.

Yeah I see kills but the likelihood of that happening its so extremely low

I'm not an asset to this game beyond my pr I'm extremely disconnected

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 4:26 am Like I don't know how to take the Zenon claim at all at this rate after what happened Day 3.

Legit could be seeing it as the maf team just flat out deciding "Let's just continue to claim red checks on towns now that the numbers are on our side."

But also could be them accidentally causing the best form of WIFOM and Zenon's check is actually real, but the JJJ's fake ends up making us have second thoughts on the matter and we end up misyeeting Zenon on accident because we end up assuming it's another attempt at tricking the town and wolves win anyways.

"Now, Brad, which one do you think it is?"

Dude I don't fucking know.

I'll take the 1 for 1 me for Moto honestly

Kill me first if you need proof

So I can't really respond to like most things

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 3:38 am okay cool my most important thoughts were not responded to. cool cool

Well frankly I dunno what even happened I just know I caught a scum

I know I've got a scum and I'd prefer to kill that

Moto*

I'm actually just gonna stay on motu

*screams*

Bleh I hate hammerless xD

Feels too on the nose to be a scum play from JJJ but like I literally won't try to save him lol

JJJ and Moto need to die

We should be killing the conf wolf first but I'm not opposed to waiting on Moto

I don't care the order as long as you always kill Moto

Belzy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 11:17 pm
Zenon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 11:09 pm
Ricochet wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 11:07 pm
Zenon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 10:17 pm Motobaby is wolf I'm Lookout I watched Rondo last night bet bet
Can you be more specific about this role or info (within rule 3's limits, of course)?

We've been through "I tracked this = outed gg gg" already.
I see every one who visits a target

I watched Rondo

Moto visited

Moto killed

Moto is scum

GGs
Is this an attempt to save JJJ?

No I literally caught a wolf lom

Ricochet wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 11:13 pm
Zenon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 11:09 pm
Ricochet wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 11:07 pm
Zenon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 10:17 pm Motobaby is wolf I'm Lookout I watched Rondo last night bet bet
Can you be more specific about this role or info (within rule 3's limits, of course)?

We've been through "I tracked this = outed gg gg" already.
I see every one who visits a target

I watched Rondo

Moto visited

Moto killed

Moto is scum

GGs
Can you describe with certainty your role tracks "every single player" who visits?

Can you state with certainty that motobot was the only visitor? (i.e. you would have received info of several visits, if that would have been the case)

Is your role basically the same as JJJ's (or the type JJJ, at the very least, claimed to be), except for the "every one" detail?

I'm quite literally a lookout yes lol my flavor is a pirate and I use my spyglass to see everyone who targeted the player the night I watch them

I fucked up thinking Tutuu would get killed N1 because I didn't understand how her claimed role worked so I watched her n1 there's no double targeting so I tried to watch her n2 but couldn't do I watched JJJ n2 no visits wish I had flipped those but oh well

Watched Rondo last night 1 visit moto

Rondo dead

GGs caught wolf

Ricochet wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 11:07 pm
Zenon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 10:17 pm Motobaby is wolf I'm Lookout I watched Rondo last night bet bet
Can you be more specific about this role or info (within rule 3's limits, of course)?

We've been through "I tracked this = outed gg gg" already.

I see every one who visits a target

I watched Rondo

Moto visited

Moto killed

Moto is scum

GGs

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