The Syndicate

Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 9:38 am

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sun Jul 30, 2023 11:29 pm Just end this game pls

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sun Jul 30, 2023 11:29 pm I would like to forget it's existence

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sun Jul 30, 2023 11:35 pm This is the worst game I've had in so long

how sad for a host to know this, I am so sorry you had a bad time in my game. I hope you will give it another chance. Maybe only join games where you like more than 3 people <3

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 29, 2023 10:14 am

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Jul 29, 2023 2:39 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 29, 2023 12:32 am

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Jul 28, 2023 11:21 pm It's literally word for word what town Wilgy said in Champs

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Jul 28, 2023 11:21 pm Maybe not really I'm exaggerating but it's damn close

1.) Can you provide a link so I don't need to search for hours on MU again?

2.) This is scum indicative, rather than town indicative IMO. Scum likes to recycle previous town thoughts. I literally go out of my way to commonly play extremely similarly to certain people game after game, and ask them similar questions in order to see this exact tell to good effect.

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... ionship%29


Should be near the end of his iso

I'm guessing you mean this post: https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... ost6902624

If so, this is not similar enough that I'd think it was recycled (but I'm not sure), so retract my previous statement. I still think Wilgy is a fine elim though.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Jul 29, 2023 9:54 am

S~V~S wrote: ↑Sat Jul 29, 2023 9:34 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Jul 29, 2023 9:22 am

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 28, 2023 11:16 pm

Zenon wrote: ↑Fri Jul 28, 2023 10:43 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 28, 2023 9:39 am I'm down to go over at this point. We're in a good position and if it prevents an uncertainty at endgame that's cool with me. I do not expect myself to be an informed player for at least this cycle anyhow.

Wilgy is town

This did give me pause for a bit but I’ve seen enough wolves do it that it doesn’t mean a lot. I think the evidence against Wilgy is stronger than for him.

Yeah for me it's NAI.

Most meta is really NAI for you. The only consistent thing I've seen is that one thing I mentioned. I got a unique perspective on your game when I played Meta and HDF against you at the same time. You played so differently, your bad game was so much more social (I've never been pocketed so firmly and comfortably lol), but then in another game I watched, didn't play, I don't recall which, you played a very social bad game.

A lot more of my thoughts here are based on associative Belzy reads, especially since I think she was comfortably settled in for the long haul, and expecting her shield to hold. Also your EOD votes the day of the Robyn/Thunal yeet.

If you're bad, not knowing who your partner is, I really don't want to see bad Wilgy in endgame. He's scary.

Linki x2, LMAO. And what's a Meow Wolf?

Yeah yeah, that makes sense. As W, if I'm being a goober, Belzy pushing for the bus while not really committing is exactly what Wolves would need to do in this situation.

Robyn/Thunal really didn't have much thought put into it. Thunal vote was a sheep and Robyn vote was when I saw a bunch of sketchy movement prior to EoD. I don't remember who exactly it was, but it was at least Belzy that jumped around.

Yup! And I approve of this yeet. Again, my advice though is to trust the process going forward. There'll be one fish in a deep barrel and that often leads to town infighting.

It's an immersive art exhibit. Hard to describe, but they put real effort into taking you elsewhere as soon as you step into the building. I've been to the one in Denver and I think it was one of the coolest things I've seen. There's one in Vegas and Santa Fe as well I think. This one in Texas just opened and I think we get one in Houston too soon

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Jul 29, 2023 9:20 am

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Jul 28, 2023 10:43 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 28, 2023 9:39 am I'm down to go over at this point. We're in a good position and if it prevents an uncertainty at endgame that's cool with me. I do not expect myself to be an informed player for at least this cycle anyhow.

Wilgy is town

No, I'm wolf and have been in anti spew for a cycle.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Jul 29, 2023 8:30 am

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Jul 29, 2023 6:02 am

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Jul 29, 2023 4:54 am Wouldn't it be funny if I say 'eh not sure on Belzy' and she flips mafia, then I say 'eh, I don't think wilgy' and he flips mafia.

Wouldn't it be funny if I did the same except I straight up just called them totem

You're pretty totem yourself.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Jul 29, 2023 4:54 am Wouldn't it be funny if I say 'eh not sure on Belzy' and she flips mafia, then I say 'eh, I don't think wilgy' and he flips mafia.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 29, 2023 1:21 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Jul 29, 2023 1:13 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 29, 2023 12:32 am

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Jul 28, 2023 11:21 pm It's literally word for word what town Wilgy said in Champs

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Jul 28, 2023 11:21 pm Maybe not really I'm exaggerating but it's damn close

1.) Can you provide a link so I don't need to search for hours on MU again?

2.) This is scum indicative, rather than town indicative IMO. Scum likes to recycle previous town thoughts. I literally go out of my way to commonly play extremely similarly to certain people game after game, and ask them similar questions in order to see this exact tell to good effect.

Funny enough this post breaks the Ladd Tell.

You'll have to enlighten me on what Ladd means, and what the Ladd Tell is.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 29, 2023 12:32 am

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Jul 28, 2023 11:21 pm It's literally word for word what town Wilgy said in Champs

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Jul 28, 2023 11:21 pm Maybe not really I'm exaggerating but it's damn close

1.) Can you provide a link so I don't need to search for hours on MU again?

2.) This is scum indicative, rather than town indicative IMO. Scum likes to recycle previous town thoughts. I literally go out of my way to commonly play extremely similarly to certain people game after game, and ask them similar questions in order to see this exact tell to good effect.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 28, 2023 9:39 am I'm down to go over at this point. We're in a good position and if it prevents an uncertainty at endgame that's cool with me. I do not expect myself to be an informed player for at least this cycle anyhow.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 10:25 pm

Belzy wrote: ↑Sat Jul 22, 2023 4:34 am

Zenon wrote: ↑Sat Jul 22, 2023 4:32 am

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat Jul 22, 2023 3:42 am

Belzy wrote: ↑Sat Jul 22, 2023 2:59 am Is not being in the poll NAI... at random?

probably, tho i imagine someone is bound to be pissed if one of them turns out to be an obvwolf and we can’t lunch them

myself included

I'd bet a million dollars one is a wolf and the other is town

Why would it work that way?

Indignant.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 4:40 pm

Zenon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 4:28 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 4:21 pm

Zenon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 4:12 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 4:09 pm

Spoiler: show

Zenon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 3:58 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 3:56 pm

Belzy was also at 4 earlier before I voted. I think people's minds aren't made up, and what people say matters.

Okay then, I'll try to choose my words carefully. I feel that my perception of the situation is much more positive than yours. I feel like many people are giving Belzy's alignment a fair shake, and enough people are interested in hearing out arguments on both sides to make the day not a waste. Also, some people are willing to work on reads outside of Belzy/SVS, and I think that is productive. As such, I am slightly wary of your motives here. I did appreciate your explanations on your Belzy read earlier (and wouldn't mind hearing from you re:my response to those explanations), but I don't understand how what you're doing at this point is pushing the game forward in a positive direction (and I personally feel like it is more likely to push the game in a negative direction by giving people an excuse to do nothing today, and in general decrease WIM).

*shrugs* keeping town alive seems positive to me

Okay, well if at some point you want to discuss Belzy and/or others, let me know.

I'll be honest I haven't retained any info recently what do you want to talk about

Earlier you posted this:

Spoiler: show

Zenon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 4:22 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 4:14 pm

Zenon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 3:34 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 12:08 pm

Why the sassy attitude?

Cause town never wins on this site and it's happening again lol

Okay, but are you helping to change that? Or are you just going to spend the game complaining?

Cmon now, you're pretty widely townread by this point. Give us some words about why Belzy is town or anything you want to say.

I have given the words

Their treatment of me. Which people read as pockety but like really wasn't especially when the easy play was to keep me on the table.

How they tried to work with me early was towny.

Their explanation and genuine frustration over a push that is pretty overall weak was towny. I could be wrong or could be caught for the wrong reasons but when I read it I see genuine frustration

Their vibes their play their emotion their style its entirely devoid of wolfy motivation

I'd like to understand your points better. I reviewed a few past games from Belzy, and I did not see what you are seeing with their treatment of you, and I did not see what you are seeing with their explanation/frustration over the push. Details here:

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 10:58 am Okay, I reviewed some past games from Belzy to try to check on some of the points Zenon made in their favor from earlier. I skimmed their ISO from TS's anniversary game III where they were wolf, and skimmed both turtle games where they were town. The anniversary game might not be the absolute best meta since it was their first game back in a while, but I don't know of any more recent wolf games of theirs.

Here and in AGIII, Belzy comes off as very aggressive, reactionary and OMGUSy to suspicion (both my early sus of her D1, and today's push from SVS), whereas in both turtles games, Belzy feels very... exasperated when sussed. I don't see them OMGUS at all, and feels like they just don't want to be bothered.

Also of note, in Turtles, Belzy early on "mason"ed with Zenon, but then quickly showed a lot of paranoia about it (I don't think she full-on flipped on townreading Zenon, but she definitely showed that she was wary of Zenon at points), whereas here, Belzy seems steadfast in lock!towning Zenon without looking back.

I know these are few datapoints, but after review, Belzy looks a lot more like scum!Belzy to me than town!Belzy based off this.

[VOTE: Belzy] aubergine

Can you take a look and let me know what you think? In particular, I think Belzy's treatment of you, and their reaction to suspicion in Turtles (town!Belzy) is very different than here, whereas some of the ways they dealt with suspicion in AGIII (scum!Belzy) did seem similar to them this game.

Can you let me know if you agree with what I'm saying here, or if not, can you try to further explain what you're seeing that I'm missing?

I mean okay yes but I've never seen Belzy try to mason with me as scum right there's no comparison

There is however a way to read into how they approached me during the push being made on me why does scum do what they did?

No, but you can contrast from how town!Belzy acted. Personally I think it is very very different, they haven't faltered on their read of you in the least this game thus far.

Can you elaborate more on this? I am really having a hard time coming to a conclusion as strong as you are based on this, so I'd like to see what you're seeing. from my POV, Belzy defended you, but not in any particularly strong, special or AI way. Am I missing something? If so, could you point me to what I should be looking at?

I'd like to wait to answer this until I am sure of exactly what you're reading into re:their approach to you during the push on you

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 4:21 pm

Zenon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 4:12 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 4:09 pm

Spoiler: show

Zenon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 3:58 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 3:56 pm

Zenon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 3:37 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 3:16 pm

I feel like you are deliberately overblowing the situation.

With 12 people alive, hammer would be at 7, Belzy's wagon is at 5 right now.

I don't think people are tunneled, and I personally have been specifically doing my due diligence to make sure I feel okay with a Belzy wagon. Others have specifically called Belzy/SVS t/t.

Best yet, many people are ALSO looking into people who aren't SVS and Belzy, or using the situation to cause others to create content.

Belzy was at 6 earlier and I would have just hammered it

I'm not fucking over blowing shit and I'm sick of being told i am

Belzy was also at 4 earlier before I voted. I think people's minds aren't made up, and what people say matters.

Okay then, I'll try to choose my words carefully. I feel that my perception of the situation is much more positive than yours. I feel like many people are giving Belzy's alignment a fair shake, and enough people are interested in hearing out arguments on both sides to make the day not a waste. Also, some people are willing to work on reads outside of Belzy/SVS, and I think that is productive. As such, I am slightly wary of your motives here. I did appreciate your explanations on your Belzy read earlier (and wouldn't mind hearing from you re:my response to those explanations), but I don't understand how what you're doing at this point is pushing the game forward in a positive direction (and I personally feel like it is more likely to push the game in a negative direction by giving people an excuse to do nothing today, and in general decrease WIM).

*shrugs* keeping town alive seems positive to me

Okay, well if at some point you want to discuss Belzy and/or others, let me know.

I'll be honest I haven't retained any info recently what do you want to talk about

Earlier you posted this:

Spoiler: show

Zenon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 4:22 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 4:14 pm

Zenon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 3:34 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 12:08 pm

Zenon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 11:53 amGGs town

Why the sassy attitude?

Cause town never wins on this site and it's happening again lol

Okay, but are you helping to change that? Or are you just going to spend the game complaining?

Cmon now, you're pretty widely townread by this point. Give us some words about why Belzy is town or anything you want to say.

I have given the words

Their treatment of me. Which people read as pockety but like really wasn't especially when the easy play was to keep me on the table.

How they tried to work with me early was towny.

Their explanation and genuine frustration over a push that is pretty overall weak was towny. I could be wrong or could be caught for the wrong reasons but when I read it I see genuine frustration

Their vibes their play their emotion their style its entirely devoid of wolfy motivation

I'd like to understand your points better. I reviewed a few past games from Belzy, and I did not see what you are seeing with their treatment of you, and I did not see what you are seeing with their explanation/frustration over the push. Details here:

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 10:58 am Okay, I reviewed some past games from Belzy to try to check on some of the points Zenon made in their favor from earlier. I skimmed their ISO from TS's anniversary game III where they were wolf, and skimmed both turtle games where they were town. The anniversary game might not be the absolute best meta since it was their first game back in a while, but I don't know of any more recent wolf games of theirs.

Here and in AGIII, Belzy comes off as very aggressive, reactionary and OMGUSy to suspicion (both my early sus of her D1, and today's push from SVS), whereas in both turtles games, Belzy feels very... exasperated when sussed. I don't see them OMGUS at all, and feels like they just don't want to be bothered.

Also of note, in Turtles, Belzy early on "mason"ed with Zenon, but then quickly showed a lot of paranoia about it (I don't think she full-on flipped on townreading Zenon, but she definitely showed that she was wary of Zenon at points), whereas here, Belzy seems steadfast in lock!towning Zenon without looking back.

I know these are few datapoints, but after review, Belzy looks a lot more like scum!Belzy to me than town!Belzy based off this.

[VOTE: Belzy] aubergine

Can you take a look and let me know what you think? In particular, I think Belzy's treatment of you, and their reaction to suspicion in Turtles (town!Belzy) is very different than here, whereas some of the ways they dealt with suspicion in AGIII (scum!Belzy) did seem similar to them this game.

Can you let me know if you agree with what I'm saying here, or if not, can you try to further explain what you're seeing that I'm missing?

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 4:09 pm

Zenon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 3:58 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 3:56 pm

Zenon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 3:37 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 3:16 pm

Zenon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 2:48 pm

fingersplints wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 2:35 pm

I disagree

That's fine but games are slow and shitty without one

You have all decided to kill Belzy

You are all tunneled and have made up your mind nothing anyone says matters

This day should be over

I feel like you are deliberately overblowing the situation.

With 12 people alive, hammer would be at 7, Belzy's wagon is at 5 right now.

I don't think people are tunneled, and I personally have been specifically doing my due diligence to make sure I feel okay with a Belzy wagon. Others have specifically called Belzy/SVS t/t.

Best yet, many people are ALSO looking into people who aren't SVS and Belzy, or using the situation to cause others to create content.

Belzy was at 6 earlier and I would have just hammered it

I'm not fucking over blowing shit and I'm sick of being told i am

Belzy was also at 4 earlier before I voted. I think people's minds aren't made up, and what people say matters.

Okay then, I'll try to choose my words carefully. I feel that my perception of the situation is much more positive than yours. I feel like many people are giving Belzy's alignment a fair shake, and enough people are interested in hearing out arguments on both sides to make the day not a waste. Also, some people are willing to work on reads outside of Belzy/SVS, and I think that is productive. As such, I am slightly wary of your motives here. I did appreciate your explanations on your Belzy read earlier (and wouldn't mind hearing from you re:my response to those explanations), but I don't understand how what you're doing at this point is pushing the game forward in a positive direction (and I personally feel like it is more likely to push the game in a negative direction by giving people an excuse to do nothing today, and in general decrease WIM).

*shrugs* keeping town alive seems positive to me

Okay, well if at some point you want to discuss Belzy and/or others, let me know.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 3:56 pm

Zenon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 3:37 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 3:16 pm

Zenon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 2:48 pm

fingersplints wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 2:35 pm

Zenon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 2:16 pm Every game should have a hammer

I disagree

That's fine but games are slow and shitty without one

You have all decided to kill Belzy

You are all tunneled and have made up your mind nothing anyone says matters

This day should be over

I feel like you are deliberately overblowing the situation.

With 12 people alive, hammer would be at 7, Belzy's wagon is at 5 right now.

I don't think people are tunneled, and I personally have been specifically doing my due diligence to make sure I feel okay with a Belzy wagon. Others have specifically called Belzy/SVS t/t.

Best yet, many people are ALSO looking into people who aren't SVS and Belzy, or using the situation to cause others to create content.

Belzy was at 6 earlier and I would have just hammered it

I'm not fucking over blowing shit and I'm sick of being told i am

Belzy was also at 4 earlier before I voted. I think people's minds aren't made up, and what people say matters.

Okay then, I'll try to choose my words carefully. I feel that my perception of the situation is much more positive than yours. I feel like many people are giving Belzy's alignment a fair shake, and enough people are interested in hearing out arguments on both sides to make the day not a waste. Also, some people are willing to work on reads outside of Belzy/SVS, and I think that is productive. As such, I am slightly wary of your motives here. I did appreciate your explanations on your Belzy read earlier (and wouldn't mind hearing from you re:my response to those explanations), but I don't understand how what you're doing at this point is pushing the game forward in a positive direction (and I personally feel like it is more likely to push the game in a negative direction by giving people an excuse to do nothing today, and in general decrease WIM).

fingersplints wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 3:52 pm Yes, but belzy being eliminated isn’t game over

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 3:16 pm

Zenon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 2:48 pm

fingersplints wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 2:35 pm

Zenon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 2:16 pm Every game should have a hammer

I disagree

That's fine but games are slow and shitty without one

You have all decided to kill Belzy

You are all tunneled and have made up your mind nothing anyone says matters

This day should be over

I feel like you are deliberately overblowing the situation.

With 12 people alive, hammer would be at 7, Belzy's wagon is at 5 right now.

I don't think people are tunneled, and I personally have been specifically doing my due diligence to make sure I feel okay with a Belzy wagon. Others have specifically called Belzy/SVS t/t.

Best yet, many people are ALSO looking into people who aren't SVS and Belzy, or using the situation to cause others to create content.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 2:55 pm in the world where belzy is villa, who do you think wolves are?

fingersplints wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 2:35 pm

Zenon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 2:16 pm Every game should have a hammer

I disagree

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 1:41 am

Zenon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 1:19 am If someone wants to find the first wagon to 3 votes and tell me who was on it D1 I'd be so grateful

I don't understand this site at all I can't find votes in this thread

If not I'll ignore this

Hello Zenon.

Just letting you know that when the vote tag is used, the word "aubergine" is attached to it, so that when you search a thread for votes that are made visible in posts, you can find them much easier.

Signed,
BradLand

PS,
I'm done with the bullshit and the politics that are happening here on Sesame Street, and after that bald son of a bitch Big Bird decided to use his creative control, he will not be seen on Sesame Street television again.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 11:33 pm

Zenon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 1:07 am

S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 9:57 pm

Zenon wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 9:45 pmBelzy is town

I wouldn’t expect you to say otherwise.

And no, she isn’t.

Yeah she is

How do you know?

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 6:24 pm I'd like to propose a wolf MR world.

Discuss.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 4:45 pm

Zenon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 4:43 pm

tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 4:41 pm

Zenon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 4:31 pmAm I wrong?

not really, just the part where belzy said svs was lying about the vote thing seems to be the most worrisome part to me

but then again, like i said, it seems like villagers lying about easy facts for whatever reason can't be ruled out lol

Is it possible that Belzy believes what they are saying?

i think if they're a wolf, they definitely didn't intend to vote thunal while defending her with posts in broad daylight

most likely it was a misclick

but i think their reaction isn't too great. honestly the only bad thing i can imagine pursuing a wagon on them is that 2 people in a row that were read as caught for the wrong reasons ~~were likely villagers lmfao

tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 4:41 pm

Zenon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 4:31 pmAm I wrong?

not really, just the part where belzy said svs was lying about the vote thing seems to be the most worrisome part to me

but then again, like i said, it seems like villagers lying about easy facts for whatever reason can't be ruled out lol

S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 4:30 pm

tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 4:25 pm

Zenon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 4:22 pm Their explanation and genuine frustration over a push that is pretty overall weak

i don't disagree here. i think that there is a lack of motivation / agenda for why they'd do it as a wolf

like if i were a wolf and making a lot of posts on why thunal was a villager / nothing about people's cases on them was good, and my great wolf plan would be to sneak a vote in to get her killed when it'll be obvious from the poll...

that doesn't really sound like a wolf plan to me

If you’re a wolf youd rather yeet the active player than the inactive one who asked to be replaced. if they’re tied.

Then you spend the next day being all civvie like arguing to save the slot in case they’re civ, maintain balance yada yada. Given the tie we had wolves want to lynch the active player every time.