The Syndicate

Which one of you was the maf jailkeeper btw?

Damnit I had the solve last night

Sorry for screaming at town in dead chat lol, you tried your best!

Gg and well played, wolves

[VOTE: Sabi] aubergine

idc if someone wants to hammer

I think Pyxxy could be scum with or without Sabi which is why my vote has been sitting on him for a while
But clearly my reads are bad and wrong so whatever, let's flip Sabi because I'm tired of arguing. I feel like the entire handling of Sabi reads today has been "no, you're wrong because your reasons are bad" so what's the point of reading them at all? Maybe they'll flip scum anyway but I just don't like how stagnant the thread has been. The thread sat on falcon yesterday and he flipped town. The thread is sitting on Sabi today and I don't know why I'd expect a different result, but I'll admit that my reasons for TRing Sabi are shit because they only matter if other people believe in them.

You know what, regardless of whether I'm right or you're right on Sabi, the game is obviously not going to move whatsoever until we flip them

So have it your way, flip Sabi, surprised Pikachu face, and continue solving.

pyxxy wrote: ↑Sat Apr 01, 2023 10:14 am

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Apr 01, 2023 5:16 am 1. Porscha asked so I'll tell you, I jailed Nook last night. No idea if that went through or not.

on this specific part since lily was accidentally flipped as goon when we should have only known alignment, we do know that mafia JK is alive so totally possible that you were jailed if nook is scum

I guess also it's possible scum might jail you anyway on the off chance that _you_ might jail outside your POE for some reason, given how the mech works and with doc dead

also possible they used their shot earlier for some reason, also possible they haven't used it yet, since

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 12:12 am Players will not be informed that they were jailkept.

both of these situations would semi-clear nook (could be scum but not carrying the nk) so ofc I reject them entirely

heading out for the day but maybe I find some time to read during lunch or something

Yeah I know, that's why I said earlier that it absolutely doesn't matter who I jailed. If a kill had gone missing, then yeah, it mightve mattered then. I was answering this specifically because Porscha wanted to know. And no, I don't scumread Nook and I didn't when I jailed him

Sabi hasn't posted at all today yet
Not trying to throw shade at them, just wondering what they're gonna have to say whenever they come back
There's not much point in speculating about it since who knows if and when they're gonna talk, but I have a feeling they mightve just assumed they're getting yeeted today

Neon wrote: ↑Sat Apr 01, 2023 5:42 am

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Apr 01, 2023 5:16 am Ok uhh what do I have to answer here

1. Porscha asked so I'll tell you, I jailed Nook last night. No idea if that went through or not.

2. Why is Sabi town? Definitely not from their pushes lol, and also not from their self-vote and AtE. But I felt that the indignation they had when pushing their reads was genuine, that they believed what they were saying and believed their reads were correct.

Hmmm

You don't think they believed what they were saying? Or you just think it was an agenda push?

I guess I will

[VOTE: pyxxy] aubergine

for now, and come back later to reevaluate the game state.

Idk I still don't think it's Dennis because I'm stubborn
I do acknowledge that those of you suspecting him have ~believable reasons but I can't help but feel icky about the Dennis push like there's at least one wolf on it

Ok uhh what do I have to answer here

1. Porscha asked so I'll tell you, I jailed Nook last night. No idea if that went through or not.

2. Why is Sabi town? Definitely not from their pushes lol, and also not from their self-vote and AtE. But I felt that the indignation they had when pushing their reads was genuine, that they believed what they were saying and believed their reads were correct.

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Fri Mar 31, 2023 11:29 am

Dennis wrote: ↑Fri Mar 31, 2023 11:16 am Just remembered that wwa said something about falcon flip

I know pyxxy and Sabi were pushing falcon, but so was I and that makes up the 3 people he said he would vote. I think seanzie was pushing him too but well ya know

I think it's actually pretty likely least one in sabi or pyxxy is bad and my gut tells me sabi but whichever it is (if there is one) has completely tricked me

OK yeah that sounds like it matched my extended PoE
I'll focus there first and see what i find

I mean the PoE I made where I included all the people who were below lily in my legacy reads on d2
Pyxxy, Sabi, Nook and falcon

Dennis wrote: ↑Fri Mar 31, 2023 11:16 am Just remembered that wwa said something about falcon flip

I know pyxxy and Sabi were pushing falcon, but so was I and that makes up the 3 people he said he would vote. I think seanzie was pushing him too but well ya know

I think it's actually pretty likely least one in sabi or pyxxy is bad and my gut tells me sabi but whichever it is (if there is one) has completely tricked me

OK yeah that sounds like it matched my extended PoE
I'll focus there first and see what i find

I haven't caught up but does anyone remember where Seanzie posted his towncore cause I'm gonna sheep it, pretty sure it was similar to mine

Dennis wrote: ↑Fri Mar 31, 2023 7:19 am I am struggling to really solve. Like there was a lot of talk about me but I literally don't know what to say

Nook looked like he was at least thinking about the game with that big post and I don't even know where to look anymore

OK well, now that we have a green flip on falcon how does it change your reads? Surely that must influence something?

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Mar 31, 2023 3:44 am

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 1:12 pm For post game cred the team is aro/nanook/tutuu

Nook surely you arent her partner in this rule of 3 right

Yeah see that was a weird mention of nook
Especially since lily was putting way more energy into pushing Sabi and Sabi didn't even make it into that fake PoE
And we know aro and tutuu were both town

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Mar 31, 2023 3:03 am

Dennis wrote: ↑Fri Mar 31, 2023 12:01 am Mk so the fact that they didn't kill the uncc'd PR is actually terrifying

So what does this mean? I'm thinking Seanzie might've started catching on and maybe had the solve so I think I'm watching sabi bcuz I remember he started eyebrowing them

I'm actually not reading into that *too* much rn for mechanical reasons but I think killing Sean to push someone he was shielding is perhaps more likely, but I may be biased knowing half his solve was wrong so

Yeah this is also a valid point

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Mar 31, 2023 3:01 am I wrote most of this yesterday, a lot of jt is shorthand and I'm not prettying it up but I'm happy to elaborate where requested

Some of it may not be relevant any more lol



Compared to treatment of lucy:

Porscha looks similar, tracks with/reinforces assumption that porscha is polarized town

Seems like she has similar approach to sabi as porscha lucy and pyxxy, except scum reads sabi instead--possible tmi?

Way she tmis me town makes me think most if not all of her town reads are accurate, reasonably confident she scum reads at LEAST one partner

https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic ... 7#p1031677

https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic ... 2#p1032372

Flip flopping read on lucy, similar to how she does with her read on me and sabi, maybe this makes sabi town after all lol


https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic ... 3#p1032373

https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic ... 4#p1032374

Fairly partnered with neon maybe?

Not great for tutu but I think probably not paired with both of lily and neon just cause most mafia don't think to make reads like this with two partners involved, so maybe one between them, idk


https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic ... 6#p1032816

By far the tr she's talked about the least afaict, very ???

https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic ... 6#p1032826

Someone find out who the other wagon at the time was

https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic ... 0#p1033510

I lowkey forgot tutu was dead for parts of this lol I think I deleted the stuff referencing her but if not oh well, anyways I ended up with her as moderately unpaired largely for the cheap shots taken towards her so I feel unreservedly confident the rest will be accurate too

https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic ... 9#p1034519

Feel like this might just be tmi lol

The block on sean claim pretty much clears him imo not gonna bother reading anything else she posted that day again

OK nvm nook wrote a thing
I assume this was an overnight post or something written after hammer and before SoD

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Mar 31, 2023 2:59 am

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 7:18 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 7:13 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 7:05 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 6:40 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 6:32 pm Why did neon not let a quick hammer happen falcon when he was L-1 and instead unvoted him?

Why did lily defend falcon and made sure no one voted him eod2?

I know you're likely not going to hear this, but I owe it to the thread to do my due diligence and explore situations.

Neon not quickhammering is NAI.

Lily I don't think really defended Falcon. In fact, I'm starting to think perhaps instead Lily was just pushing more for a Tutuu elim. If I'm right about this, why do you think Lily might have wanted Tutuu elimmed?

That's definitely not true. Read her iso and she says she wants tutuu/Sabi wagons because she doesn't think falcon is a hit, but if he has to be a wagon then she prefers tutuu. She didn't outright push tutuu but she was happy to jump on her wagon, and tutuu flipped town.

She did say that, but it was close to EoD, and I think it was pretty much locked between Falcon and Tutuu at that point, offering Sabi then did not actually put Sabi in danger, and when you are a wolf with t/t wagons, one of them AFK Falcon, one bouncy Tutuu, it's not unreasonable to push for Tutuu over Falcon to leave Falcon for a later day.

Look at lily's posts again from d1and d2
Look at which players she mentions having reads on, how many times she mentions them, whether those "reads" ever change, and whether she ever interacts with or how she interacts with the players she is talking about.

I think you'll find some interesting answers.

Mom please elaborate on this

I need to look through again to tell you exactly what she said but iirc she had some weird handling on falcon and Nook. Falcon we now know flipped town, and we don't know what Nook is.

pyxxy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 31, 2023 2:48 am falcon tr nook too but idk I feel like falcon felt like he was only a wagon for low activity and so he might be too willing to give a tr to a fellow low poster

Yeah
As much as i have my own reasons for thinking nook can still be town, i also got the impression falcon was just giving him an activity pass, more like "this doesn't mean Nook is scum" rather than "Nook is town for doing this".
Ill continue to evaluate Nook independently of falcon's read on him, and I'd reeeeaaaally like for Nook to do something more than pop in and disappear. Like, at least marginally more. Because at this rate, even if he is town, he's not exactly making himself a valuable asset for solving because he's not helping people to find him in that case. And that's a huge liability in LyLo.

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Mar 31, 2023 2:37 am However the acceptable comments are just dennis sheeping. What does everyone make of that

Tbh I did notice that his reads seemed to lack creativity or deeper insight but I wasn't sure if that was just a play style thing

The reasons I felt made Dennis town were unrelated to his reads; it was more his reactions to things said and done in the thread. Idk, maybe he's good at faking reactions? I was reading them as fairly genuine, even if his reads felt sheepy.

pyxxy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 31, 2023 2:24 am although I do feel stupid for not realizing that I put him on E-1

I mean at least we had a 47.5 out of 48 hours

hammer is 4 today, I won't forget it

I think that was my fault, I voted falcon but I don't think I actually wrote my vote in the thread lol, I thought i had but then I saw hammer and wondered what the hell happened my bad

I'm not gonna ask why tf I'm alive, I get it, I was wrong blah blah blah.
I was pretty sure Seanzie would be the next one in line to die after me, so that's why I didn't entertain any paranoia on him.
Gonna have to think for a bit but I don't believe Seanzie's death directly incriminates Sabi because it could just be a frame. I want to think this out this time before voting since clearly the solve isn't as straightforward as I thought it was yesterday.
I don't think it matters if I say who I jailed, since I couldve been jailed back.

pyxxy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 31, 2023 2:22 am also I don't understand why falcon hammered himself

Oh is that why the day suddenly ended?

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 7:25 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 7:23 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 3:01 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 2:57 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 2:55 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 2:51 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 2:38 pm


This was 6 days ago, and Sabi's reads really haven't changed much at all. I think you've recently expressed a micro tinfoil on Porscha, but that's about it.

Really?

I dropped neon to scum and pyxxy to null

But go off. Tell me how I haven't changed my reads at all

So, hasn't changed much at all does mean there's been some change...you understand that, no?




Dropping your lowest TR slot to SR (after of course Wilgy & tutuu both flip green) and moving 60% pyxxy by 10% to null is not much movement at all.

What exactly am I supposed to. Move?

Seanzie and wwa and Dennis and Porscha are locked town.

That leaves you Nook pyxxy and neon.

You've had 4 lock town for like a week...so, town move their reads all the time, cuz' they don't know. This is much harder to do for Maf.





It's not that I think you have to move to player X or whatever...it's the fact that your reads just haven't moved a lot in a week...with just 1 Maf flip, I'd think you'd be much more sus, but you're still stuck in your static SRs and Lock TRs

I'm curious why people think Sabi is sus for not moving 4 players out of their locktown when i have the exact same 4 players as locktown, I'm basically an IC, and no one has been giving me shit for it.

Because they want to feed Sean paranoia on me and he fuck g ate it all up even tho falcon said infactual things about me it's fine. Because Sean can never find me as town in any town game I have had with him.

Unfortunately this is the result of you being widely scumread since the beginning of the game

I am perfectly aware that people started reconsidering their stances on you after yesterday when you kept insisting that we chop lily despite her (imo) completely obvious fake claim (and yes, Neon, roleblocker was a setup that possibly existed, but the way lily claimed is nothing like I've ever seen a town PR play). And now that falcon has pushed back on you, everyone else is back to pushing on you, too.

If you're actually a wolf then I'll eat shit for it after this game, I know you aren't hard cleared as town, but I don't think you're playing with an agenda.

For posterity after falcon said his stuff, vote count was falcon and me on Pyxxy, Seanzie on falcon, and Sabi and neon on Sabi

It's currently Seanzie, Sabi and me on falcon, falcon on Pyxxy, and neon on Sabi

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 7:23 pm I think perhaps killing Falcon today is still the best plan - this is a world that we need to discover.

It is 7v2 right now, so if we miss on Falcon, we go to 5v2. I am strongly leaning towards town!Falcon->chop Sabi tomorrow. I just hope that saying this will be remembered tomorrow, in particular by @WindwardAway @Porscha

I'm actually fine with moving back to falcon for today
That does not necessarily mean Pyxxy is off the hook
And it does not necessarily mean that I would want Sabi to flip tomorrow
But I acknowledge your post

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 3:01 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 2:57 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 2:55 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 2:51 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 2:38 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 8:44 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 8:26 pm

I'm sorry you're getting that feeling, but if it is based off my comment, I don't think this is a fair assessment. I'm allowed to have some suspicion on you, and I'm still willing to work with you, but I do need to express thoughts about you.

Play the game, try to solve, let's work together. Can you remind me of who is in your towncore and who you suspect currently?

This was geared towards Wilgz and Neon who have just resorted to omg sabi wolfy for pushing their scumreads how dare they.

Anyway

I already mentioned it.

Town - 100% confidence:
Wwa
Porscha
You
Dennis

Town lead - 75% confidence:
Lily

Town side of null - 60% confidence:
Pyxxy
Neon
Wilgz

Everyone else scummy pile:
Nook
Falcon
Tutuu

This was 6 days ago, and Sabi's reads really haven't changed much at all. I think you've recently expressed a micro tinfoil on Porscha, but that's about it.

Really?

I dropped neon to scum and pyxxy to null

But go off. Tell me how I haven't changed my reads at all

So, hasn't changed much at all does mean there's been some change...you understand that, no?




Dropping your lowest TR slot to SR (after of course Wilgy & tutuu both flip green) and moving 60% pyxxy by 10% to null is not much movement at all.

What exactly am I supposed to. Move?

Seanzie and wwa and Dennis and Porscha are locked town.

That leaves you Nook pyxxy and neon.

You've had 4 lock town for like a week...so, town move their reads all the time, cuz' they don't know. This is much harder to do for Maf.





It's not that I think you have to move to player X or whatever...it's the fact that your reads just haven't moved a lot in a week...with just 1 Maf flip, I'd think you'd be much more sus, but you're still stuck in your static SRs and Lock TRs

I'm curious why people think Sabi is sus for not moving 4 players out of their locktown when i have the exact same 4 players as locktown, I'm basically an IC, and no one has been giving me shit for it.

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 7:20 pm Whatever I'm voting falcon and closing out of this tab. I really should have kept to my retirement

Big mood

pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 7:20 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 7:13 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 7:11 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 5:59 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 3:07 pm @WindwardAway where are you

The game is losing focus

This game is stupid, you guys are going to yeet town.
I'm not actually sure what to think of falcon putting in the effort now but whatever alignment he is, he's doing something.
Im willing to flip Pyxxy first, actually, but if it's wrong I'm probably just going back to falcon.

[VOTE: Pyxxy] aubergine

oh well this is weaker reasoning than I hoped, seeing WWA's vote on me

feels like I just got voted for being absent while falcon was active

I've been lowkey pushing you for days because I can't make up my mind. I think one of you has to flip today and I don't know which one is a hit.

we're good I saw your reasoning like three posts later in my catchup and responded to it

(it's the one where I disagree with how you're analyzing Dennis _but_ I need to read your paragraph about Dennis that's right above this)

Thank you for trying to shake everyone out of the bad vibes zone.

I actually feel like I'm just contributing to it at this point

I get that he plays the game how he wants to, when he wants to, but that was an empty promise unless he's coming back super late.

So much for Nook saying he'd give reads today, huh

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 7:13 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 7:05 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 6:40 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 6:32 pm Why did neon not let a quick hammer happen falcon when he was L-1 and instead unvoted him?

Why did lily defend falcon and made sure no one voted him eod2?

I know you're likely not going to hear this, but I owe it to the thread to do my due diligence and explore situations.

Neon not quickhammering is NAI.

Lily I don't think really defended Falcon. In fact, I'm starting to think perhaps instead Lily was just pushing more for a Tutuu elim. If I'm right about this, why do you think Lily might have wanted Tutuu elimmed?

That's definitely not true. Read her iso and she says she wants tutuu/Sabi wagons because she doesn't think falcon is a hit, but if he has to be a wagon then she prefers tutuu. She didn't outright push tutuu but she was happy to jump on her wagon, and tutuu flipped town.

She did say that, but it was close to EoD, and I think it was pretty much locked between Falcon and Tutuu at that point, offering Sabi then did not actually put Sabi in danger, and when you are a wolf with t/t wagons, one of them AFK Falcon, one bouncy Tutuu, it's not unreasonable to push for Tutuu over Falcon to leave Falcon for a later day.

Look at lily's posts again from d1and d2
Look at which players she mentions having reads on, how many times she mentions them, whether those "reads" ever change, and whether she ever interacts with or how she interacts with the players she is talking about.

I think you'll find some interesting answers.

I swear everyone in this game is wolfy, including me
I only get a pass because I blocked a kill lmao

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 6:49 pm I'm sorry, but I think I'm back to wolf!Sabi. I know, it sucks not having her in the towncore, but this explains a lot of why WWA hasn't died, why Rondo died, why Wilgy died, and can explain a lot of Lily's actions.

And you're sure it isn't a frame?
I know exactly why I haven't died, and the reason I know is because I've already confirmed that I predicted their strategy correctly, since I blocked lily's kill.
It has nothing to do with my read on Sabi.

pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 7:11 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 5:59 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 3:07 pm @WindwardAway where are you

The game is losing focus

This game is stupid, you guys are going to yeet town.
I'm not actually sure what to think of falcon putting in the effort now but whatever alignment he is, he's doing something.
Im willing to flip Pyxxy first, actually, but if it's wrong I'm probably just going back to falcon.

[VOTE: Pyxxy] aubergine

oh well this is weaker reasoning than I hoped, seeing WWA's vote on me

feels like I just got voted for being absent while falcon was active

I've been lowkey pushing you for days because I can't make up my mind. I think one of you has to flip today and I don't know which one is a hit.

Also I'm sorry for snapping at you, @Neon, it wasn't nice of me. I'm not trying to blame you for anything, I'm just pissed off for various reasons and most of it has nothing to do with this game so I think I should just stay out of the thread.

Good luck, guys.

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 7:05 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 6:40 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 6:32 pm Why did neon not let a quick hammer happen falcon when he was L-1 and instead unvoted him?

Why did lily defend falcon and made sure no one voted him eod2?

I know you're likely not going to hear this, but I owe it to the thread to do my due diligence and explore situations.

Neon not quickhammering is NAI.

Lily I don't think really defended Falcon. In fact, I'm starting to think perhaps instead Lily was just pushing more for a Tutuu elim. If I'm right about this, why do you think Lily might have wanted Tutuu elimmed?

That's definitely not true. Read her iso and she says she wants tutuu/Sabi wagons because she doesn't think falcon is a hit, but if he has to be a wagon then she prefers tutuu. She didn't outright push tutuu but she was happy to jump on her wagon, and tutuu flipped town.

Additionally, tutuu was not hard pushing for falcon but had some suspicion on him and also wanted to self-pres. I don't know if lily wanted tutuu dead for that or not. Tutuu's last words came across as lolcatting because she started ranting about Dennis being a good wolf when she'd given nothing to indicate she suspected him before. This is probably the only reason I'm agreeing with falcon, that if Pyxxy is scum then Dennis should be reevaluated. But that doesn't mean falcon is off the hook, either. Tutuu was town, and as such, she wasn't pushing an agenda but she wasn't guaranteed to have a perfect legacy, and for all I know the Dennis thing couldve been wifom just to make wolves take the bait and start pushing him. That's initially what I thought, and why I've firmly insisted on keeping him in the towncore. If falcon is a wolf, that is exactly what he's trying to do now. But I don't know that for sure, and I think one of falcon/Pyxxy needs to flip, and depending on their flip we can take it from there and reconsider where we stand.

I don't want town to destroy the towncore out of paranoia and wifom. We have two wolves left to bag, and they will probably be in coordination to tear us apart until we push each other off the cliff. But that's why I've been trying for most of two days to lie about how confident I am in my reads. I'm probably dying tonight, so I think I should admit it now, but I'm not 100% sure of anything. I just want to push a narrative to keep us grounded, but I'm tired, I don't have the energy, and I feel like after I die you guys are going to point fingers and lose the game, so I don't really know if I should care anymore. I'm sorry this isn't a pep talk, but this is what I'm afraid of.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 6:40 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 6:32 pm Why did neon not let a quick hammer happen falcon when he was L-1 and instead unvoted him?

Why did lily defend falcon and made sure no one voted him eod2?

I know you're likely not going to hear this, but I owe it to the thread to do my due diligence and explore situations.

Neon not quickhammering is NAI.

Lily I don't think really defended Falcon. In fact, I'm starting to think perhaps instead Lily was just pushing more for a Tutuu elim. If I'm right about this, why do you think Lily might have wanted Tutuu elimmed?

That's definitely not true. Read her iso and she says she wants tutuu/Sabi wagons because she doesn't think falcon is a hit, but if he has to be a wagon then she prefers tutuu. She didn't outright push tutuu but she was happy to jump on her wagon, and tutuu flipped town.

Neon wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 6:19 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 6:03 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 6:01 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 5:59 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 3:07 pm @WindwardAway where are you

The game is losing focus

This game is stupid, you guys are going to yeet town.
I'm not actually sure what to think of falcon putting in the effort now but whatever alignment he is, he's doing something.
Im willing to flip Pyxxy first, actually, but if it's wrong I'm probably just going back to falcon.

[VOTE: Pyxxy] aubergine

Lmao...

I'm sure you're gonna say I'm alive because my reads are wildly wrong, just like you said yesterday when I loudly declared I had a redcheck on lily.

No I'm gonna say your shade on me for not wanting falcon while deciding to not go falcon is pretty hilarious.

My thoughts yesterday were valid. Nobody even stopped to think for 1 seconds that maybe lily wasn't lying I was the only one who brought it up at all.

I was wrong yes but that should throw alarms that lily was bussed because nobody even tried to help her narrative. Wolfs were fine killing lily and who looks the best off it with the worst progression and wolfy behavior overall?

Sabi...

I already gave my fucking explanation. I gave it thought, I considered we might be in a roleblocker setup, and I pushed a narrative because I wanted everyone else to believe it. I did it on purpose, and I lied, perfectly willingly, as town.

I said I had you as town for believing lily was roleblocker, I have not once said today that I want to yeet you, but I did say for the purposes of fallback that you might be in my PoE. I never said I would jail you, and I never said that I would vote you.

So if you can't fucking read my posts then I don't need to read yours, either.

So yeah, congrats I'll die with a legacy that's wrong but whatever, just don't follow it.

If Falcon flips mafia I'm jailing Pyxxy.
If Pyxxy flips mafia I'm jailing falcon.
If you flip anyone other than these two, you can deal with the consequences yourself.

Good night.

Neon wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 6:01 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 5:59 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 3:07 pm @WindwardAway where are you

The game is losing focus

This game is stupid, you guys are going to yeet town.
I'm not actually sure what to think of falcon putting in the effort now but whatever alignment he is, he's doing something.
Im willing to flip Pyxxy first, actually, but if it's wrong I'm probably just going back to falcon.

[VOTE: Pyxxy] aubergine

Lmao...

I'm sure you're gonna say I'm alive because my reads are wildly wrong, just like you said yesterday when I loudly declared I had a redcheck on lily.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 3:47 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 3:15 pm @Seanzie why are you so confident falcon isn't a hit anymore?

It is disingenuous to say that I am confident Falcon isn't a hit. Instead I am not confident that Falcon is a hit.

Town!Falcon can be lazy Falcon, and their play today gth is more reminicnent of town!Falcon than scum!Falcon. I don't think this completely outweighs their full-game play, but it does make me worry.

I don't think I've played with falcon before, or actually maybe I did only once, and so I don't have meta on him but I'm at "we yeet falcon if we have no better options" but I'm starting to feel like I'd rather yeet pyxxy. I don't want to yeet Sabi, but I might conditionally reconsider Dennis if pyxxy flips scum because I think falcon mightve had a point. It doesn't fit perfectly with my worldview, but if I'm wrong then I'm not gonna exclude that possibility.

I don't, however, want to tear the towncore apart. If Pyxxy is town, no more pushing Dennis. I'd go back to falcon or maybe even nook if I have to.

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 3:07 pm @WindwardAway where are you

The game is losing focus

This game is stupid, you guys are going to yeet town.
I'm not actually sure what to think of falcon putting in the effort now but whatever alignment he is, he's doing something.
Im willing to flip Pyxxy first, actually, but if it's wrong I'm probably just going back to falcon.

[VOTE: Pyxxy] aubergine

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 2:00 pm I don't think I have seen neon this wrong about game state before if she's town.

She was wrong like this during welcome back and she was wolf.

How about in setups with power roles? Does she ever speculate an incorrect setup?

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 12:19 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:22 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:20 am

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:07 am holy fuck why is everyone scumreading me

Possibly because it feels like your more concerned with ripping people down and creating divides rather than solving, which is your wolf modus operandi.

Stop agreeing with me...

OK, I paused during Neon's ISO, cuz' something caught my eye...






Why are we TRing Sean? His post here to lucy....that reads like a wolf who's baiting town w/ their wolfy play.

I still think Seanzie is town
I think lily just wifomed him to try to increase paranoia on his slot yesterday
If both wolves aren't in my current PoE and I was wrong on someone in my towncore, I'd consider Dennis before I'd consider Sean, but that depends on some flips.

Neon wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 12:00 pm Falcon is town

I'm going to bed well try to make EoD or be here today but I got bipolar and sometimes I just sleep all day like I did yesterday

No offense but I don't trust your reads. I'll make my own decsiison.

@pyxxy If falcon flips town, how would that influence your reads?

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Mar 28, 2023 8:55 pm Sorry, I'm not like...trying to not participate...I've just got a lot on my plate, and this game moved by quite quickly and I have no idea what's going on really.

Yeah I'm not blaming you for being busy, it's just hard to find you if you're town and you're too quiet. Especially after we already got a wolf yesterday.

Oh well, I can't wait to die