The Syndicate

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 6:40 pm I jumped to TSP at EoD because, ultimately, there was no reason for me not to. The jump may have looked "opportunistic", but in that case it benefited me as I self resolve anyway and this made it less likely for me to be wolfkilled. I didn't take into account the possibility of a wolf blocker or Windward being pissed at me, though

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 6:39 pm The Truth is I'm just not gonna say who I scum read tbqh

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 4:40 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 4:31 pm "which would be odd as there'd be seemingly little incentive to bus in that situation"
Could you talk more about this point? Is this reflecting on the fact that the TSP wagon ended up running away?

Dizzy and pyxxy were both viable at certain points at EoD, I don't see why a wolf would be so quick to rush to bus when they could collaborate to take one of these out. I think it's indicative of wolves being stuck in a poor situation at EoD, TSP didn't even really push another wagon other than his own, he hedged on both you and Dizzy.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 7:30 pm

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☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 4:59 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 4:45 pm

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 4:43 pm Oh hot I'm getting votes now despite being the most obvious town in mafia history

Speak for yourself. Why were you voting with your biggest wolfread at EoD?

I wasn't

I was voting for my biggest wolf read at EoD who was viable when I checked out for the day

That would be my lord and Savior Pyxus Christ

Wolfy be thy name.

Porscha thinks Pyxxy is mildly towny though so meh

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 4:29 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 4:27 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 12:15 am

pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 12:12 am

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 12:07 am

pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 12:04 am scum team gets into the thick of EOD and seems to have lost control of the thread

all three are being voted up

why do TSP and I not both just consolidate on Dizzy, WIFOM aside, and score town points for it

especially after I just played a game I should have lost for _not burying the slanker teammate_

that's my point

you played that game with me, you understand my perspective better than anyone else can here

Anyway, if you aren't a wolf, do you agree there is at least one wolf in Dizzy/Abby?

I had to write out names to see if this is just a math test

pyxxy - town

bereft - town
gira - town
leetic - town
Rondo - town
ranmilia - scum

that leaves

dizzy
abigail
ted

I think my answer is yes

You/Dizzy/Abby all being town would mean both remaining wolves were on TSP, which would be odd as there'd be seemingly little incentive to bus in that situation

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 12:18 am Even then, I think there must be at least one in pyxxy/Dizzy unless the team is exactly Abby/ted, otherwise there's no incentive for a hypothetical wolf Ranmilia or Bereft to bus. And even then, at a glance Abby/ted does not seem to have wolf equity.

@leetic these two posts?

Yes, what other two posts?

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 12:15 am

pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 12:12 am

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 12:07 am

pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 12:04 am scum team gets into the thick of EOD and seems to have lost control of the thread

all three are being voted up

why do TSP and I not both just consolidate on Dizzy, WIFOM aside, and score town points for it

especially after I just played a game I should have lost for _not burying the slanker teammate_

that's my point

you played that game with me, you understand my perspective better than anyone else can here

Anyway, if you aren't a wolf, do you agree there is at least one wolf in Dizzy/Abby?

I had to write out names to see if this is just a math test

pyxxy - town

bereft - town
gira - town
leetic - town
Rondo - town
ranmilia - scum

that leaves

dizzy
abigail
ted

I think my answer is yes

You/Dizzy/Abby all being town would mean both remaining wolves were on TSP, which would be odd as there'd be seemingly little incentive to bus in that situation

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 12:18 am Even then, I think there must be at least one in pyxxy/Dizzy unless the team is exactly Abby/ted, otherwise there's no incentive for a hypothetical wolf Ranmilia or Bereft to bus. And even then, at a glance Abby/ted does not seem to have wolf equity.

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 4:22 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 4:19 pm leetic can you remind me why you're voting me

Outing my soft was anti-town, you look bad from last EoD (though Dizzy/Made doesn't look much better)

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 3:04 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 2:58 pm

tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 2:55 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 2:54 pm have you considered that interacting with leetic can be a taxing enterprise

i doubt a villa cares for that, if you are genuinely wanting to read him

but maybe im wrong /shrug

idk friend like even just look at my conversations with leetic during this day phase and I think it's clear why I was happy to use the soft as an excuse to give us both a break

But you were basically ignoring me D1, were you not? I think I even called you out on it a few times.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 2:55 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 2:54 pm have you considered that interacting with leetic can be a taxing enterprise

i doubt a villa cares for that, if you are genuinely wanting to read him

but maybe im wrong /shrug

tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 2:40 pm i have 0 meta on you

tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 2:33 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 2:31 pm and I'm off Ran _btw_

see, here's my problem

fypov, if it's not ran, then who is it?

bereft? abi, i guess? but you villa read both, rite?

pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 5:50 am anyway to summarize and validate anyone wanting to skip my posts today

Bereft
Dubz / RondoDimBuckle
Dyslexicon / Made
Gira
leetic
☆Princess Abigail☆
pyxxy
Ranmilia
tedxtr

--------

abi+rondubz+ran stone carving club
leetic+ted PR safety zone

Bereft, DysMade, Gira, pyxxy

I tr Bereft and Gira for how they voted for me yesterday

so I'm stuck but need at least an idea of where I can solve past dizzy in this world, because I think this world is good for town

tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 2:36 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 2:31 pm You're doing the leetic thing where me having a different worldview than you disqualifies my solving.

wat

where am i doing that, lol

tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 1:03 pm so, my top problems with pyxxy are the following poasts

pyxxy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 3:52 pm if dizzy flip scum

am I smoking major weed to think that gives ran wolf equity?

not even sure I'm using that phrase right :/

i think this is 2 villas and it's an easy way to keep the heat on dizzy, engage in more "dizzy wolf" talk but by way of a weird association rather than their poasting

pyxxy wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 9:59 pm my legacy is chop leetic

I believed it was town leetic at the start bc the energy was the same

but now the _direction_ is gone

they're sheeping the rondo scumread and sheeping scumreading me in a way that I don't find omgus

I think it's scum letting town do the dirty work

pce

and this, because it looks like a post a wolf would make with v/v lhf standard d1 wagons. push on some spicy target to have reason to not comment on the obvious lunch targets

and after this, they just limply dropped on any heavy pushes. they took leetic's soft as law and went on to do some vca to land on dizzy and only now is tunneling ran. which is incredibly easy to do given ran has a goldmine of posts that look bad given tsp's flip

tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 10:58 am

Gira wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 10:56 am

tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 3:57 am so we still lunching pyxxy?

i was about to ask where your head was at honestly

bad person to ask

maybe there’s a 5% chance i actually try hard

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 5:48 am

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 5:42 am

tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 5:40 am the wolves have no reason to kill me this game

yeah this.

Also he's openly admitted to having used both his charges no?

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 5:42 am

tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 5:40 am the wolves have no reason to kill me this game

yeah this.

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 5:27 am

pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 5:19 am

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 5:16 am Dizzy/ted is... kind of gross with d1. When TSP makes his "get off bereft" post, bereft is obviously top wagon but dizzy/ted are the two counterwagons, with bereft voting ted, ted voting dizzy and dizzy voting robyn.

... not that those are where TSP is directing wagons though, looks like he was directing mainly towards robyn. but still... mm.

and ted theoretically self-resolves, before or after leetic, depending on if we can psych out the scum team about which we suspect and which we believe*

*this is irrelevant if they're actually both PRs and ftr I believe leetic

Why does ted self resolve now?

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:59 pm [VOTE: tsp ] aubergine

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:41 pm @pyxxy why didnt you answer me?

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 5:20 am

pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 5:03 am

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 4:28 am

pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 12:12 am

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 12:07 am

pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 12:04 am scum team gets into the thick of EOD and seems to have lost control of the thread

all three are being voted up

why do TSP and I not both just consolidate on Dizzy, WIFOM aside, and score town points for it

especially after I just played a game I should have lost for _not burying the slanker teammate_

that's my point

you played that game with me, you understand my perspective better than anyone else can here

Anyway, if you aren't a wolf, do you agree there is at least one wolf in Dizzy/Abby?

I had to write out names to see if this is just a math test

pyxxy - town

bereft - town
gira - town
leetic - town
Rondo - town
ranmilia - scum

that leaves

dizzy
abigail
ted

I think my answer is yes

This is Ricky

what if I told you that I think I'm looking at dizzy/ted

I'd tell you if Ted is a wolf I demand apologies from him and Leetic post game tbh

pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 5:19 am

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 5:16 am Dizzy/ted is... kind of gross with d1. When TSP makes his "get off bereft" post, bereft is obviously top wagon but dizzy/ted are the two counterwagons, with bereft voting ted, ted voting dizzy and dizzy voting robyn.

... not that those are where TSP is directing wagons though, looks like he was directing mainly towards robyn. but still... mm.

and ted theoretically self-resolves, before or after leetic, depending on if we can psych out the scum team about which we suspect and which we believe*

*this is irrelevant if they're actually both PRs and ftr I believe leetic

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 5:16 am Dizzy/ted is... kind of gross with d1. When TSP makes his "get off bereft" post, bereft is obviously top wagon but dizzy/ted are the two counterwagons, with bereft voting ted, ted voting dizzy and dizzy voting robyn.

... not that those are where TSP is directing wagons though, looks like he was directing mainly towards robyn. but still... mm.

pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 5:13 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 7:30 pm

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(testing, testing)

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 7:30 pm

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☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 4:28 am

pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 12:12 am

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 12:07 am

pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 12:04 am scum team gets into the thick of EOD and seems to have lost control of the thread

all three are being voted up

why do TSP and I not both just consolidate on Dizzy, WIFOM aside, and score town points for it

especially after I just played a game I should have lost for _not burying the slanker teammate_

that's my point

you played that game with me, you understand my perspective better than anyone else can here

Anyway, if you aren't a wolf, do you agree there is at least one wolf in Dizzy/Abby?

I had to write out names to see if this is just a math test

pyxxy - town

bereft - town
gira - town
leetic - town
Rondo - town
ranmilia - scum

that leaves

dizzy
abigail
ted

I think my answer is yes

This is Ricky

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 4:31 am

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 12:18 am Even then, I think there must be at least one in pyxxy/Dizzy unless the team is exactly Abby/ted, otherwise there's no incentive for a hypothetical wolf Ranmilia or Bereft to bus. And even then, at a glance Abby/ted does not seem to have wolf equity.

Tbh I loooooooooove bussing

But tbh tbh I would actually finish the job

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 4:22 am

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 11:51 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 11:44 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 11:40 pm Rondo and others said that I play scum by bussing

(I disagree, I just keep getting paired with nook! but for the sake of being annoying....)

and I seem to have set up myself to bus TSP

and just......didn't?

sorry, sorry, it's all WIFOM, especially when it comes to pyxxy /s

This kinda goes away if you and Dizzy are w/w though

if I'm w/w with Dizzy, am I not the best chance at wolves winning? and wouldn't the plan be to let me do mech things, strongly guess from ~midday that Ilario and TSP are scum-tied-together, and then I get credit from the bus _while also not being good enough at actual solving to eat the nk_?*

*this got invalidated later with WWA claiming

Your not W/W with dizzy so

tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 3:26 am

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 3:23 am "Watcher but you can't track kills" seems a bit useless for town, at best you're going to catch a wolf blocker. Granted, Watcher is pretty overpowered without that restriction, but it seems wolves would have more use for this role as they could try to catch Doctors/etc. Why did you choose to target the likely NK targets knowing that you couldn't detect kills?

for the reason you seem to think wolves would do it

it’s a pretty rng role, i could either mash buttons and hope for aroleblocker or role cop or i could clear villas

i thought the same thing as you w/r/t usefulness and i just winged it like this, didn’t have a grand strat cuz there really isn’t one

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 2:37 am

pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 2:34 am

pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 2:33 am

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 2:33 am

pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 2:30 am s/flail/goes manic but otherwise agree with that version of events

yeah that was maybe harsh sorry

no no, as when we talked like last day or w/e, you're not being too harsh, it's your perspective

for legal reasons this post is NAI

even if you do turn out to be a wolf it is really a pleasure playing with you and I super respect you keeping it clean <3

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 2:35 am

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 2:32 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 2:29 am

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 2:28 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 2:23 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 10:00 pm WindwardAway has been bonked on to the Lumon hospital. She was:

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You’re a severed employee working at Lumon Industries (town).

Twice during the game during any separate Night phases, you may select a player. That player's role will not function that night.

Evening Three is underway. You have 48 hours to vote someone out.

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@Bereft
@Gira
@leetic
@Made
@☆Princess Abigail☆
@pyxxy
@Ranmilia
@RondoDimBuckle
@tedxtr

not surprised in the slightest. About to head into a Dark Heresy Ascension game that I DM and need to prep for it. Can someone recap SOD for me?

Me leetic gira all go on pyxxy. Pyxxy flails, says maybe it's me, then no longer thinks it's me. The poll breaks but this seems to have been a site break and not a game mechanic. I have the power of god, anime and JackofHearts2005 on my side and we now know a fair bit about the other thread, see above for that.

wat

If there is another phantom vote on you today Jack will go super saiyan and cross time and space to smite the unbelievers in [redacted] town in the other thread. (not really.) (maybe.)

Jack where?

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pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 2:33 am

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 2:33 am

pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 2:30 am s/flail/goes manic but otherwise agree with that version of events

yeah that was maybe harsh sorry

no no, as when we talked like last day or w/e, you're not being too harsh, it's your perspective

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 2:33 am

pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 2:31 am

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 2:30 am

pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 2:29 am I got caught up on 10 choose 3 and gave up because it felt like dependent events e.g. a w/w pair affects the odds of future w/w pairings

stats continues to be lies

It does, but it makes the equation much more complicated so I chose to just run the simpler equation. The exact probability doesn't matter here, just whether an event is plausible or not.

It's been a while since I had to work on anything more complex than a simple normal or Poisson distribution, so forgive me if my statistical skills are a little rusty

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 2:33 am

pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 2:30 am s/flail/goes manic but otherwise agree with that version of events

yeah that was maybe harsh sorry

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 2:30 am

pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 2:29 am I got caught up on 10 choose 3 and gave up because it felt like dependent events e.g. a w/w pair affects the odds of future w/w pairings

stats continues to be lies

It does, but it makes the equation much more complicated so I chose to just run the simpler equation. The exact probability doesn't matter here, just whether an event is plausible or not.