The Syndicate

ggs

I'm gonna assume that scotty's post here explains how people just kept dropping like flies and I'll read it after I do dishes

LAST REMINDER


FUNLAND Take me by the hand lead me to the land where fun is had FUNLAND The road trip to the parking lot is a real hit FUNLAND The crust of a fun man imbibed with some fun plans Soaking up the thirst of the land

Vote Funland during Night 1!

(Explainer post for why Funland here: viewtopic.php?p=1025195&hilit=funland#p1025195)

CRichard wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 6:58 pm [VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine
Not interested in ties. Also this is still in my PoE.

Welcome to a world of CRIchard/Jack w/w, everyone!

Dennis, if you don't move to Jack, that's information as well.

Dennis wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 6:53 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 6:51 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 6:48 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 6:46 pm Seanzie has been getting the eyebrow from me but knowing him him tunneling is normal

I'm voting [VOTE: chihiro] aubergine off of mostly vibes

Jack is being extremely wolfy, voting anyone other than Neon or Jack more-or-less is a vote for me unfortunately.

*me doing my best Seanzie impression in order to impress Seanzie*

@Seanzie Vote Jack.

@Dennis you too buddy let's get a Jack wagon moving here at the end? Because why not, eh? If I'm wrong I'll let you out of my pocket?

My problem with voting jack right now is I don't remember any of his posts because I didn't get a chance to really read all of the previous page which is where I believe all of his posts are. I could vote there I guess but I don't want to be wrong and then get blamed for hiding behind you

I'll defend you. Give me a chance this one time. I know I'm playing very much outside my normal game here.

Vote count with ~8 minutes to go when I copied it:

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 6:48 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 6:46 pm Seanzie has been getting the eyebrow from me but knowing him him tunneling is normal

I'm voting [VOTE: chihiro] aubergine off of mostly vibes

Jack is being extremely wolfy, voting anyone other than Neon or Jack more-or-less is a vote for me unfortunately.

*me doing my best Seanzie impression in order to impress Seanzie*

@Seanzie Vote Jack.

@Dennis you too buddy let's get a Jack wagon moving here at the end? Because why not, eh? If I'm wrong I'll let you out of my pocket?

@Neon you can't respond bc post cap but if you have any interest in a Chihiro or Jack wagon? I will observe if you move to either or if you stick on CRichard.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 6:42 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 6:38 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 6:33 pm I would be unsurprised if CR and Seanzie are wolves together.

CR pushes Seanzie a bit early on with Creature (Creature way moreso) and Dunya gives him a single post of shit for it.

Fast forward half a day. Wagons are Jack and Neon. Reasoning for Seanzie being a wolf is still valid. CR says multiple players are shielding Seanzie. Maybe they're in the last few pages but it reads to me like "multiple players shielding Seanzie" is actually "Dunya made one post about not liking a push on Seanzie."

And now, after the Seanzie wagon has taken off in spite of CR's refusal to move there, now CR is sure Seanzie is a wolf.

Fucking reeks.

"I would be unsurprised if CR and Seanzie are wolves together."
I think you are big wrong about this, but only because you posted like 3 minutes too soon.

CRichard seems pretty willing to push Seanzie here and I don't see how a D1 bus of Seanzie makes any sense for the wolves, when leaving Seanzie alone would keep him in the POE, and if he went full town/proved himself town in a worrying way, scum could just NK him N2 or N3.

Seanzie wolf here only makes sense if we've really caught him and maybe none of the other wolves are voting him yet. I don't feel the numbers yet to indicate that this is a bus.

Like, I agree with 100% of your observations and we noticed the same thing around the same time here. But I disagree with your conclusion that this could somehow be CRichard/Seanzie w/w

Current Seanzie voters: Jackofhearts2005, Kate, sig, Chihiro

CR indirectly defended Seanzie in what looks like a dishonest way (assuming there aren't in fact multiple players shielding Seanzie in the posts I haven't read) when he was an alternative to Jack/Neon and then was on board with yeeting Seanzie after the Seanzie wagon had already overtaken the Jack and Neon wagons.

Hmmmmmm. I acknowledge your valid and sensical reasoning. Doesn't help that I find your hand in the Seanzie wagon to be sus, though.

This is your ~16 minutes until EOD reminder to vote Funland N1!!!

FUNLAND Take me by the hand lead me to the land where fun is had FUNLAND The road trip to the parking lot is a real hit FUNLAND The crust of a fun man imbibed with some fun plans Soaking up the thirst of the land

Vote Funland during Night 1!

(Explainer post for why Funland here: viewtopic.php?p=1025195&hilit=funland#p1025195)

CRichard wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 6:38 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 6:35 pm

CRichard wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 6:28 pm I honestly would be surprised if Seanzie flips town here. Sure there are meta shields on them, yet I don't find them a particular good reason to town lean/read someone and leave it alone.

Why aren't you voting Seanzie then?

I want a counterwagon to Seanzie that I believe in. Also, I feel that Seanzie being inactive because of real life is believable.

Let's set aside real life for now.

Do you think Roxy is a viable counterwagon with 20 minutes to do?

How about joining me on a Jack wagon?

CRichard wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 5:46 pm I'm not so sure Jack is a mafia now. Their lasts posts don't give off the vibe of mafia resigned to dying D1.

I think we agree that Jack does not sound like a mafia resigned to dying on D1. He's doing a pretty good job pushing Seanzie here as a miskill, and to prove that he (Jack) is trying, because that will get him townread (for now).

That's my read on the situation, at least.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 6:33 pm I would be unsurprised if CR and Seanzie are wolves together.

CR pushes Seanzie a bit early on with Creature (Creature way moreso) and Dunya gives him a single post of shit for it.

Fast forward half a day. Wagons are Jack and Neon. Reasoning for Seanzie being a wolf is still valid. CR says multiple players are shielding Seanzie. Maybe they're in the last few pages but it reads to me like "multiple players shielding Seanzie" is actually "Dunya made one post about not liking a push on Seanzie."

And now, after the Seanzie wagon has taken off in spite of CR's refusal to move there, now CR is sure Seanzie is a wolf.

Fucking reeks.

"I would be unsurprised if CR and Seanzie are wolves together."
I think you are big wrong about this, but only because you posted like 3 minutes too soon.

CRichard seems pretty willing to push Seanzie here and I don't see how a D1 bus of Seanzie makes any sense for the wolves, when leaving Seanzie alone would keep him in the POE, and if he went full town/proved himself town in a worrying way, scum could just NK him N2 or N3.

Seanzie wolf here only makes sense if we've really caught him and maybe none of the other wolves are voting him yet. I don't feel the numbers yet to indicate that this is a bus.

Like, I agree with 100% of your observations and we noticed the same thing around the same time here. But I disagree with your conclusion that this could somehow be CRichard/Seanzie w/w

Current Seanzie voters: Jackofhearts2005, Kate, sig, Chihiro

CRichard wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 6:28 pm I honestly would be surprised if Seanzie flips town here. Sure there are meta shields on them, yet I don't find them a particular good reason to town lean/read someone and leave it alone.

Why aren't you voting Seanzie then?

rip to the Jack wagon I guess

someone confirm this, did Creature and Chihiro move from Jack to Seanzie? and Jack thought he was voting Neon but wasn't and he's reasonably on Seanzie given his casing of Sean

CRichard on Roxy makes sense given CR seems to just be voting in their personal poe. However, given how many people townread Roxy, I'm wondering if it's just a safe spot for CR to park their vote

really CRichard kinda reminds me of my first impression of lucy, bit of arrogance and a strong belief in their own solving skills + how they view the game, mild distaste for any other playstyles

CRichard wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 5:47 pm [VOTE: Roxy] aubergine
I don't mind this slot as an option for today. They have been UTR quite a bit today.

What does UTR mean?

CRichard wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 6:16 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 6:12 pm

CRichard wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 5:09 pm

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 9:29 am

CRichard wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 9:06 am So yes Omega is town in my book. Sorry mafia, mislunching Omega suddenly became a lot harder.
Your move.

This post just bothers me. It comes off as TMI because nobody is even pushing me for death. If I had like 6 votes and you were actually worried wolves were trying to mislynch that’d make sense, but that never happened.

Idk it comes off as a white knight mafia

Ding ding ding, you win the prize for worst reason to accuse someone as mafia. TMI despite no flips on D1.
When do people learn TMI accusations on D! hold no water?

WHAT?? wolves have tmi from the moment they get their roles.

Good job missing the point so spectacularly. There are no flips, so it's impossible to say someone had TMI without any info pointing otherwise.

To me, it sounds like y'all are arguing about the difference between the words:

prove

and

postulate

CRichard seems focused on TMI involving some way to _prove_ that a mafia had the knowledge, or at least starting from a place of fact aka flips

while maybe TS players or at least DOOM and Kate here have a broader definition of TMI that includes speculating if someone _might_ know that someone else is town because the first someone might be mafia, and none of this involves flips

personally I think both methods are valid brave, I know

just don't see the need to fight about definitions

@JDizz10 are you gonna be around for EOD + have you played forum mafia before?

(condensing replies to save on post count)

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 8:04 am

pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 5:02 am I want off Chihiro.

Having played one game with fingersplints where I sussed her based on activity and vigged her and was very wrong, I'm not inclined to read into that low post count.

But I do have curiosities about DaughterOfOmega's need to post like 3 times D1 and then announce their departure.

[VOTE: DaughterOfOmega] aubergine

gn y'all

If you afk without showing up forever you can get replaced. I'd rather try to appear and read what I can than completely afk. But do you fam

I understand the rules, yes. I didn't say you were being afk without showing up forever. In fact, in the setup post it says the GM would reach out to you before replacement:

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 11:09 pm There is no post minimum, but if you haven’t been active in a cycle I might reach out to see if you need a replacement.

So I'm making a very specific point. You were barely active despite this game having a N0, made a note about how you were going to be active in the future, and dipped. That's slightly scummy imo.

@DaughterOfOmega do you have a POE that you are likely going to vote within today?

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 9:29 am

CRichard wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 9:06 am So yes Omega is town in my book. Sorry mafia, mislunching Omega suddenly became a lot harder.
Your move.

This post just bothers me. It comes off as TMI because nobody is even pushing me for death. If I had like 6 votes and you were actually worried wolves were trying to mislynch that’d make sense, but that never happened.

Idk it comes off as a white knight mafia

I read CRichard's iso to contextualize the tone of this post because I also didn't like this post. I think they just talk like this (in this game). But I agree it seems off.

Dennis wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 11:27 am @Kate and @pyxxy thoughts on Sean if you will

Town Seanzie requirements list:
- scum reads?
- slightly tunneled?
- being obnoxious/posting a lot about his reads?

Happy to keep Seanzie around for now.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 12:11 pm I have voted in clear effort to save my wolf teammate Jackoffhearts.

Well we can't have that now, can we?
[VOTE: Jackie boy] aubergine

Town Jack is not shining through for me.

Neon wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 5:03 am I'm booooooooored

baited and now I get to post this meme

> Neon in every mafia game

I want off Chihiro.

Having played one game with fingersplints where I sussed her based on activity and vigged her and was very wrong, I'm not inclined to read into that low post count.

But I do have curiosities about DaughterOfOmega's need to post like 3 times D1 and then announce their departure.

[VOTE: DaughterOfOmega] aubergine

gn y'all

In my opinion:

Town Neon maxes out her posts. Scum Neon saves them (and imo in general posts more carefully). I'm really getting town Neon vibes here. Really. I'm serious.

I understand this is effectively me claiming that D1 was TvTvT (since I'm town and so was Bereft, may B rest in P). It's past my bedtime so I don't have time to really analyze the implications of that world view, gonna focus on catching up so that the morning is less miserable.

Neon wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 4:34 am Does post cap raise before EoD? OP doesn't say as far as i noticed so I assume no?

I don't believe so.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 11:58 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 4:02 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 3:58 pm Without actually going back and watching the episode or using a wiki, my location does appear to be related to my character. Weird that Pxy would say it's random. #weird

I'm saying the exact opposite and I'm accusing Chihiro of being a wolf for seeming to not know that locations are linked to monsters, because reading a town role pm would make it obvious that they are.

Yeah, this whole thing is just me and Chihiro not understanding what Pyxxy is initially saying because he words it poorly (lol sorry, bud).

I think this is t/t from this interaction alone. More sure on Pyxxy. So semistrong townread on Pyxxy and kinda a lot of weak reasons to scumread and townread Chihiro. Probably because I don't really know Chihiro.

Super useful shit, me.

I take responsibility for my poor wording. I'll write more better in the future 🫡

lmao great minds

@Neon stopping my catch up to say hey, careful with your post count, you only get a total of "Neon - 111" today

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 9:54 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 10:57 am

CRichard wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:51 am As I've probably mentioned before, the mafia will probably want to keep discussion on Scraggy as much as possible. Providing it isn't one of their own behind the account.
I'm getting tired. Sleep time beckons.

Repeating the same points over, while still discussing Scraps...OK.





[VOTE: CR] aubergine

Semivalid. Probably comes from town Falcon but I’ve lately managed to be shit at reading Falcon. Of course, I blame Falcon for this.

As you should.

Neon wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 9:44 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 9:04 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 3:44 am

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 2:01 am

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 1:59 am

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 1:24 am neon scummy for policy voting even though idc about whether scrappy dies

I literally policy as town *sigh*

literally a bad habit and scummy usually, alison policies r disagreeable too

I can not possibly express how much I disagree with this take. Policies win games.

Policies aren’t even intended to win games. They’re intended to enforce good play. IE yeet claimed neutrals until players learn to stop claiming neutral. Yeet toxic players until they learn to stop being toxic.

It can’t be a GOOD strategy for finding and yeeting wolves when it isn’t a strategy for finding and yeeting wolves to begin with.

If you’re town, this shit will get you miselimed, probably after you get a townie or two miselimed in front of you. Just ask Alison.

Enforcing good play wins games.

But also I have built MY policies based on things I've seen people ignore that have constantly and consistently lost town games. So no. I policy to win games. I will continue to do it.

In voting me for policying you are policying me so...

"I know what you are but what am i!" the argument lmao

(it's true tho just thought this was funny)

Neon wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 8:48 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 1:30 pm kinda wanted to vote Dennis to help Seanzie get into his town mindset but also not sure how Dennis would feel about me scumleaning him uwu

giving Dennis another day, I don't mean this in a mean way Dennis! it's only been like 16 hours or w/e this is more "don't worry about more pressure and just do you town thing, friend"

Wilgy already explaining that he's playing a different style feels odd

where's Jack?

I don't care about Scrappy atm although reading Scrappy's ISO makes me continue to sideye Chihiro for claiming that Scrappy was ever townsiding

Scrappy opened by claiming they were town, then moving to "I'm town alignment", then "I can help town", then what I perceived as sarcasm about "if you vote for me I'll be forced to wolfside!!!1!"

Maybe Chihiro just overfocused on how people reacted to Scrappy instead of what Scrappy did to make people react that way

sticking on Chihiro

we do agree on this though, I'm not voting Scrappy D1, would rather hunt 100% scum than scum-lite

Chihiro wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:02 pm

sig wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 7:59 pm At what point will enough be enough with the sock where you’re willing to say they’re not town siding anymore

I would never vote the slot on d1, so doesn't matter.

It's cool that you are town this game

Just going to get started on this early

FUNLAND Take me by the hand lead me to the land where fun is had FUNLAND The road trip to the parking lot is a real hit FUNLAND The crust of a fun man imbibed with some fun plans Soaking up the thirst of the land

Vote Funland during Night 1!

(I recently explained why Funland here: viewtopic.php?p=1025195&hilit=funland#p1025195)

Dennis wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 7:09 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 1:30 pm kinda wanted to vote Dennis to help Seanzie get into his town mindset but also not sure how Dennis would feel about me scumleaning him uwu

giving Dennis another day, I don't mean this in a mean way Dennis! it's only been like 16 hours or w/e this is more "don't worry about more pressure and just do you town thing, friend"

Wdym "not sure how dennis would feel about me scumleaning him"? Does how I react affect your read, or? And I hope this doesn't come off as a sorta mocking and cold tone I genuinely love you for this post even if you are pocketing me (which I don't think you are)

you ---------------------------------------------> my pocket pls, ty

it's my soft opinion that once people start scumreading you, it distracts you from being able to focus on other things, and I would rather not distract you because I think you do a better job of helping people find you as town when you're not distracted

again, you ---------------------------------------------> my pocket pls

Kate wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 6:41 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 1:36 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 1:34 pm kate feels alright, falcon feels alright, creature feels like they're crea-tching but also idt I've lived long in a game with creature regardless of alignment so not much experience from me "reading that slot" as the kids say

DOOM seems to be DOA

should probably re-read sig at some point because this felt odd to me, seemingly down with my slip case

sig wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 7:13 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 7:07 pm Yay for town working together even if it was in the shadows

I still find you sus tho Chihiro, sorry
[VOTE: Chihiro] aubergine

I’ve got to reread the potential slip area. If you’re correct it’s a great D1 vote:

My biggest issue is they’re anti voting off Scrappy and want to go after mafia, but haven’t really gone after mafia just engaged on the Scrappy piece.

The same could be said for Richard

into eh shrug I don't actually care about a possible easy D1 kill???

sig wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 7:18 pm

Chihiro wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 7:16 pm

sig wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 7:13 pm My biggest issue is they’re anti voting off Scrappy and want to go after mafia, but haven’t really gone after mafia just engaged on the Scrappy piece.

More than likely that there is scum inside the group of people who were so adament on scrappy being the d1 elimination.

Also what slip? I explained that I hadn't fully read my role pm until someone mentioned their flavor match their location, which when i double checked realizing the same thing.

Pxxy seems to think it was a slip, frankly i skimmed then ignored the convo since that style of mechish talk bores me

it would be one thing if sig didn't care at all about my slip case, but expressing interest and then dismissing it without a real analysis feels like trying to sink the case?

Actually let me try being an interactive member of the thread

@Creature @Kate @Seanzie in your opinion, is this sig thing I've noted here actually odd or am I still new/bad at mafia?

I have some reading to do but I'm quoting this now so I remember to co.e back to this question. BTW, youre new?? I wouldn't have guessed that.

Sabi brought me here in like the fall, my first TS game was Hot Fuzz

lucy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 6:39 pm a random discord community

i asked him to play

hype

JDizz10 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 6:32 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 10:46 pm Alright Chihiro is a mixed bag to me. ISOing them it's also a lot of Scrappy Doo talk but she also has some reads (although I find them pretty weak). I'll prob consider her fine because posting a lot is pretty hard to do for a unskilled wolf.

Can you please elaborate on this for me? what is ISOing? And that last sentence, are you saying that Chihiro is a new player? Are you saying they have been an unskilled wolf in the past? New to the comm so trying to learn everyone's game. Thank you

ISO = Isolation, e.g. reading someone's posts in isolation from the thread

if you open this link and click the number under replies, you get a menu that will open an ISO for each person that's commented in the thread, including mods
viewforum.php?f=273

VC = vote count

@lucy you and JDizz seemed to know each other, what site is he from / how did you recruit him here to play on TS?

sig wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 6:30 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 6:20 pm

sig wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 5:56 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 5:54 pm

sig wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 5:48 pm

Chihiro wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 5:46 pm

sig wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 3:15 pm Okay so; the crux of the slip starts here.

But, I’m confused since I’m like pretty sure the locations are tied to Indy monsters from the episodes you’re trying to argue they’re not?

You’re second post about it also backs up the idea that she knew monsters were town and y’all are just debating whether or not the location is randomized.

Actually at the time I knew I was monster, but I hadnt given my location a thorough look at. When I did it was easy to tell locations werent randomized, before that I kinda just assumed they were randomized.

Okay, that makes sense.

I don’t really think either of you slipped for a few reason chiefly since it seems like 99% of the time “slips” aren’t real and just paranoid townies voting off other townies.

I’m tempted to say based off both your reactions it was t/t, but I’d like to see more from Pyxxy regarding my thoughts on the slip before going that far

I promised to drop it and I've dropped it, so I won't be responding directly to you. Sorry.. I'm lightening on Chihiro. I await a response to my latest q before possibly unvoting.

I don’t like this post at all especially since you threw shade my way for not talking about it.

Good. You shouldn't like this post.

Is this a sarcastic response or an honest one? I can’t tell.

Both. I wrote the og post knowing what it looked like. I care more about honoring the agreement to drop it. I'd like to drop it. You may sr me for it and for the previous response and this response as well, and I would not take offense to you doing so.

@JDizz10 A reasonable answer is "I have not read the thread". Feel free to admit that, we're not yet halfway into D1 after all. I wouldn't hold it against you.

And it would explain why you did not see this post, from me, TO JACK, THE PERSON YOU ARE QUESTIONING FOR TOWN READING ME

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 4:02 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 3:58 pm Without actually going back and watching the episode or using a wiki, my location does appear to be related to my character. Weird that Pxy would say it's random. #weird

I'm saying the exact opposite and I'm accusing Chihiro of being a wolf for seeming to not know that locations are linked to monsters, because reading a town role pm would make it obvious that they are.

JDizz10 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 5:58 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 4:35 pm

sig wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:18 pm also @Jackofhearts2005 im very unhappy you didn’t say hello to me

Also also I’m pretty sure you lead a misvote on me last game or vigged me so like IOU one death

JDizz10 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 5:27 am

Chihiro wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 7:30 pm If we let a wagon stagnate, espically one that isn't going to flip mafia essentially we let mafia just slide by for the day. So pressure should be applied to others during the day.

This is repeating N argument that others have said before them. This to me is mafia’s way of trying to seem town but actually adding very little to the conversation.

@lucy @Jackofhearts2005 thoughts on this logic and thoughts on chihiro and/or pyxxy as potential mafia?

I don't think Pyxxy is mafia. I'll get back to you on Chihiro.

Also....why are you pinging me specifically for this? We haven't played together before, have we?

We have not played together before, no. I just liked your take about pyxxy not realizing that the locations and our roles align. You called pyxxy weird, and I wanted to know how far your thoughts on him went. This is doubting my town read on you if i'm being perfectly honest. I agree with whoever mentioned that role PMs and win cons and things are a terrible kinda scummy way to play, but in this case it works and if they really didn't know that it seems pretty plausible that he is mafia. Now may I please ask you to explain why you don't think pyxxy is mafia?

Holy Christ Almighty how in the world do you read this thread and still think that I was the one confused about locations.

How. How how how.

sig wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 5:56 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 5:54 pm

sig wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 5:48 pm

Chihiro wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 5:46 pm

sig wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 3:15 pm Okay so; the crux of the slip starts here.

But, I’m confused since I’m like pretty sure the locations are tied to Indy monsters from the episodes you’re trying to argue they’re not?

You’re second post about it also backs up the idea that she knew monsters were town and y’all are just debating whether or not the location is randomized.

Actually at the time I knew I was monster, but I hadnt given my location a thorough look at. When I did it was easy to tell locations werent randomized, before that I kinda just assumed they were randomized.

Okay, that makes sense.

I don’t really think either of you slipped for a few reason chiefly since it seems like 99% of the time “slips” aren’t real and just paranoid townies voting off other townies.

I’m tempted to say based off both your reactions it was t/t, but I’d like to see more from Pyxxy regarding my thoughts on the slip before going that far

I promised to drop it and I've dropped it, so I won't be responding directly to you. Sorry.. I'm lightening on Chihiro. I await a response to my latest q before possibly unvoting.

I don’t like this post at all especially since you threw shade my way for not talking about it.

Good. You shouldn't like this post.

sig wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 5:48 pm

Chihiro wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 5:46 pm

sig wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 3:15 pm Okay so; the crux of the slip starts here.

But, I’m confused since I’m like pretty sure the locations are tied to Indy monsters from the episodes you’re trying to argue they’re not?

You’re second post about it also backs up the idea that she knew monsters were town and y’all are just debating whether or not the location is randomized.

Actually at the time I knew I was monster, but I hadnt given my location a thorough look at. When I did it was easy to tell locations werent randomized, before that I kinda just assumed they were randomized.

Okay, that makes sense.

I don’t really think either of you slipped for a few reason chiefly since it seems like 99% of the time “slips” aren’t real and just paranoid townies voting off other townies.

I’m tempted to say based off both your reactions it was t/t, but I’d like to see more from Pyxxy regarding my thoughts on the slip before going that far

I promised to drop it and I've dropped it, so I won't be responding directly to you. Sorry.. I'm lightening on Chihiro. I await a response to my latest q before possibly unvoting.

Chihiro wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 5:46 pm

sig wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 3:15 pm Okay so; the crux of the slip starts here.

But, I’m confused since I’m like pretty sure the locations are tied to Indy monsters from the episodes you’re trying to argue they’re not?

You’re second post about it also backs up the idea that she knew monsters were town and y’all are just debating whether or not the location is randomized.

Actually at the time I knew I was monster, but I hadnt given my location a thorough look at. When I did it was easy to tell locations werent randomized, before that I kinda just assumed they were randomized.

Would it be safe to assume that your location power up isn't that interesting?

Part of why I cared so much about locations is because mine _is_ quite interesting. So I think I just assumed that everybody's power up must be interesting.

And I love mech >.<

pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 1:34 pm kate feels alright, falcon feels alright, creature feels like they're crea-tching but also idt I've lived long in a game with creature regardless of alignment so not much experience from me "reading that slot" as the kids say

DOOM seems to be DOA

should probably re-read sig at some point because this felt odd to me, seemingly down with my slip case

sig wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 7:13 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 7:07 pm Yay for town working together even if it was in the shadows

I still find you sus tho Chihiro, sorry
[VOTE: Chihiro] aubergine

I’ve got to reread the potential slip area. If you’re correct it’s a great D1 vote:

My biggest issue is they’re anti voting off Scrappy and want to go after mafia, but haven’t really gone after mafia just engaged on the Scrappy piece.

The same could be said for Richard

into eh shrug I don't actually care about a possible easy D1 kill???

sig wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 7:18 pm

Chihiro wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 7:16 pm

sig wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 7:13 pm My biggest issue is they’re anti voting off Scrappy and want to go after mafia, but haven’t really gone after mafia just engaged on the Scrappy piece.

More than likely that there is scum inside the group of people who were so adament on scrappy being the d1 elimination.

Also what slip? I explained that I hadn't fully read my role pm until someone mentioned their flavor match their location, which when i double checked realizing the same thing.

Pxxy seems to think it was a slip, frankly i skimmed then ignored the convo since that style of mechish talk bores me

it would be one thing if sig didn't care at all about my slip case, but expressing interest and then dismissing it without a real analysis feels like trying to sink the case?

Actually let me try being an interactive member of the thread

@Creature @Kate @Seanzie in your opinion, is this sig thing I've noted here actually odd or am I still new/bad at mafia?

kate feels alright, falcon feels alright, creature feels like they're crea-tching but also idt I've lived long in a game with creature regardless of alignment so not much experience from me "reading that slot" as the kids say

DOOM seems to be DOA

should probably re-read sig at some point because this felt odd to me, seemingly down with my slip case

sig wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 7:13 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 7:07 pm Yay for town working together even if it was in the shadows

I still find you sus tho Chihiro, sorry
[VOTE: Chihiro] aubergine

I’ve got to reread the potential slip area. If you’re correct it’s a great D1 vote:

My biggest issue is they’re anti voting off Scrappy and want to go after mafia, but haven’t really gone after mafia just engaged on the Scrappy piece.

The same could be said for Richard

into eh shrug I don't actually care about a possible easy D1 kill???

sig wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 7:18 pm

Chihiro wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 7:16 pm

sig wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 7:13 pm My biggest issue is they’re anti voting off Scrappy and want to go after mafia, but haven’t really gone after mafia just engaged on the Scrappy piece.

More than likely that there is scum inside the group of people who were so adament on scrappy being the d1 elimination.

Also what slip? I explained that I hadn't fully read my role pm until someone mentioned their flavor match their location, which when i double checked realizing the same thing.

Pxxy seems to think it was a slip, frankly i skimmed then ignored the convo since that style of mechish talk bores me

it would be one thing if sig didn't care at all about my slip case, but expressing interest and then dismissing it without a real analysis feels like trying to sink the case?

kinda wanted to vote Dennis to help Seanzie get into his town mindset but also not sure how Dennis would feel about me scumleaning him uwu

giving Dennis another day, I don't mean this in a mean way Dennis! it's only been like 16 hours or w/e this is more "don't worry about more pressure and just do you town thing, friend"

Wilgy already explaining that he's playing a different style feels odd

where's Jack?

I don't care about Scrappy atm although reading Scrappy's ISO makes me continue to sideye Chihiro for claiming that Scrappy was ever townsiding

Scrappy opened by claiming they were town, then moving to "I'm town alignment", then "I can help town", then what I perceived as sarcasm about "if you vote for me I'll be forced to wolfside!!!1!"

Maybe Chihiro just overfocused on how people reacted to Scrappy instead of what Scrappy did to make people react that way

sticking on Chihiro

we do agree on this though, I'm not voting Scrappy D1, would rather hunt 100% scum than scum-lite

Chihiro wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:02 pm

sig wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 7:59 pm At what point will enough be enough with the sock where you’re willing to say they’re not town siding anymore

I would never vote the slot on d1, so doesn't matter.

Roxy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 11:53 am pyxxy - I read EVERYTHING in every game I play which is why I often bitch about people not using the OT button when they are posting off topic. Or like Seanzie make time wasting posts of one letter at a time which I am sure he finds cute but I find it time wasting, time that could be better spent looking for baddies. I do not find you particularly susp. I feel you are trying but the way you approached N 0 poll gave me pause. I am keeping that as a ping for now but my eyebrow will be waiting to be twitched again. I obv read your N 0 post about your short list and your reasons behind it as I responded to/talked about it. Not sure why you want to make it seem like I am not reading....

Because I got the impression that you were not fully reading my explanations. That's all.

I'm partially to blame because I wanted to withhold how I came to my conclusions for N0, under the assumption that mafia would be lazy and not bother with trying to push town towards a bad location, but rather just silently vote as a group.

My source for the locations:
https://scoobydoo.fandom.com/wiki/List_ ... !_episodes

In making this list, I also created a list of locations -> culprits -> likely roles, but for obviously Soup reasons I will not be posting that.

Hopefully me posting this helps explain how I got to my list in the first place.

My short list remains in effect for N1, btw, just now without Airfield:

- Bank
- County Museum
- Funland
- Oceanland
- Theater
- Tibetan Temple
- Tropical Village
- University Archeological Wing

For now, I plan to vote Funland N1, because 1) of the negative reaction to me pushing Oceanland and 2) because hey why not work through the list alphabetically? Definitely not suspicious on my part

In reality my confidence is this list is probably ordered more like this, starting with most confident to be a hit aka location that powers up one of town:
- Funland/Oceanland
- University Archeological Wing
- Tibetan Temple
- Tropical Village
- Bank/Theater/County Museum

Still like 95% confident that these are all hits though.

Scrappy Doo wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 10:02 am

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 9:58 am

Scrappy Doo wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 9:55 am

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 9:51 am

Scrappy Doo wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 9:43 am Dearest Dunya, I do implore thee to bestow upon me your most sincere and insightful appraisals of the townspeople. Pray tell, who dost thou deem to be the most cunning and astute amongst us? And who, perchance, dost thou suspect may be harbouring malevolent intentions? Your guidance would be most appreciated, fair lady.

top town as of now:
you
chihiro
creature
falcon
sig
pyxxy

top wolfy as of now:
crichard
dennis
doo
drwilgy

Why do you have a townread on Creature? Spill the tea, hun~

feels very natural, unhinged, transparent with his thoughts and reads--offering them without delay. spilling thoughts as they come without obvious ulterior motive. gut read says creature good.

These violent delights have violent ends.

This is your lamest post so far. Truly watching a decline from Scrappy N0. Can we petition for a new sock owner?

Neon wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 8:59 am

CRichard wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:16 am Neon/Sig probably not w/w voting on Scraggy. Again, it's too blatant for 2 mafia to vote on the same slot together. Yes I'm aware Scraggy is a 3p claim, yet why do 2 mafia vote on the same slot who isn't on their team together D1? Answer: They don't.

I won a game once as wolf 3 stacking our votes every single day.

We swept.

I know you pointed out right below this that's it's not certain either way still a good approach but for anyone who wants more evidence Neon and Co. lost doing this in Holes mafia

Neon wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 7:17 am

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 10:17 pm

Chihiro wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 7:08 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 7:07 pm Yay for town working together even if it was in the shadows

I still find you sus tho Chihiro, sorry
[VOTE: Chihiro] aubergine

Thats fine, I don't care to prove myself as town to you. My only goal is to find someone that will actually flip mafia so I can bury them.

I think Chihiro looks fine?

Chihiro is always town and I will brook no argument

lmao

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 11:58 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 10:43 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 10:41 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 10:32 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 7:30 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 7:27 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 7:22 pm

So what did this fine fellow do? Please explain.

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viewtopic.php?p=1024242#p1024242

Hmmm...

I like this. [VOTE: Chihiro] aubergine.

Also turns out votes are changeable, so that's nice.

DrWilgy might be a wolf.

Yeah I might also be town. Why wolf specifically?

Your vote on Chihiro struck as weak and opportunistic. It feels like you went like "hmm ill sheep this".

It was weak and I pretty much said verbatim 'hmm ill sheep this'

You aren't making any audience ooh or ah with this one my friend.

A firm yet loving touch from Wilgy this is why he's a professional *furious nodding* *scattered applause*

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 10:43 pm pyxxy seems alright postcount wise. I hope his wolfgame doesn't involve posting more than his towngames. But meh I can't push him because he's like one of the only players doing stuff and also he vibed town.

yeah I've been sitting here waiting for more people to show up

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 10:19 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 10:14 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 10:13 pm How did Chihiro get that many posts?

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 7:12 pm EX: I don't get to post 123 times during D1

I get to post up to 123 posts in total, because Scotty's number for me is my N0 post count + 80 new posts for D1

to help everyone keep track of their own post count

Scotty is being helpful and a good GM *pet pet*

I know how post limits work. I am just surprised Chihiro managed to spampost more than Scrappy Doo.

Sorry. I read it as "oh Chihiro earned more posts". And because someone else was similarly confused earlier, I was ready to reply.