The Syndicate

Matahari wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 9:51 am gg everyone! Dennis, you were a hero! Kate, your first hosting gig was great, so now you’re going to work on that 2 mafia team game with at least 24 players, right? Please say yes?

Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 5:57 am Excellent game wolf's! Never would have gotten Seanzie.

Sorry Neon.
Sorry Mata.
Sorry Dennis.

Dennis wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 8:19 pm I thought there was one in roxy/splints cause I see their relationship like me and kate--if one scumreads the other chances are one is bad

But Roxy lied and threw me completely off

I wanted to try something new to open up the game. Sorry you wanted UFC championship fight and I wanted to see who would nibble.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 9:28 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 9:04 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 9:03 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 8:25 pm Woah wait that argument between seanzie and epi was theater?? Yah no this game was lost then if I made it to like f3

In wolfchat

"Hey Epi, I'mma do the thing that wolves do to townies and go at you hard, and when you push back I'm going to back off like I'm trying to pocket you... only I'm going to do it to you, not a townie" (paraphrased, but the jist was said)

Man I never want to play against wolf you again

Just lynch his ass every time to be clear.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 9:02 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 8:20 pm Damn I suck at this game huh

That isn't how the game works. You were the hardest person to play against this last day, and I actually had to pivot away from pushing you and try to get Fingersplints to move somewhere else because your fighting made it difficult to predict how EoD was going to go if we were planning on stacking on you.

Dennis wrote: ↑Sat Apr 15, 2023 3:01 pm Splints/falcon/six final answer

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 9:03 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 8:25 pm Woah wait that argument between seanzie and epi was theater?? Yah no this game was lost then if I made it to like f3

In wolfchat

"Hey Epi, I'mma do the thing that wolves do to townies and go at you hard, and when you push back I'm going to back off like I'm trying to pocket you... only I'm going to do it to you, not a townie" (paraphrased, but the jist was said)

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 8:29 pm I'm pretty sure me suggesting a GTH with 6 min remaining before EoD is going to be a permanent mafia memory now. That was the most fun I've had with an EoD in a long time.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 8:21 pm Don't be so hard on yourself Dennis. You were doing well I think.

I may have had TMI, but I had a hard time saying you were W even though I had to.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 7:26 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 7:23 pm I would kill six today still but I swapped to epig to not be the townie off consensus and lose the game

That's admirable, but you would be on consensus and lose the game.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 7:00 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 3:56 pm Epi is confusing the hell out of me with his little popins. At the time I was the top wagon ergo wolves are content with it ergo wolves not really paying attention to the game and think it's pretty much over and I think it's possible that's what's happening there

Work schedule is a thing. If I wanted you dead I could have voted for you. In the end I chose to let it be. Didn't have a strong take either way.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 5:30 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 4:58 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 4:49 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 3:42 pm But on a more serious note, we actually have to come together here.

Yar.

Re my headspace: I think I need to stop tinfoiling Falcon and that's about it.

Not voting in Splints, Sean, or Falcon.

I should be around later, this weekend has been busy as all hell.

About that...



If there is even the least chance you won't be around for EoD, can you move your vote? A single wrong vote loses us the game if the wolves are around to snipe at EoD.

Yar

[VOTE: Dennis] aubergine I still think is the best route today. Literally the only variable that COULD have been W influence on that wagon last cycle was Six.

SixStrings wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 5:04 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 4:56 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 4:38 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 4:17 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 4:13 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 4:09 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 4:03 pm

I haven't gotten the feeling that you're genuinely solving. Today your effort has given me some pause, but I am wary that this is just because you feel like you need to or you'd be flipped. Prior to today, the vast majority of your takes have been things like "blah isn't playing like they did in blah", which is easily fakable since you don't really need to be considering someone's alignment to notice differences in their play from one game to the next. Couple that with the fact that you're in pretty much any reasonable team I can put together, makes you IMO the best elim today.

Even this - you said you were going to look into us earlier, but I think if I wouldn't have said anything, you would have never made this post. What is your read of Epi. He is confusing you and wolves are content - does that mean you suspect him?

The last time I was wolf in a situation like this I said nothing literally all day cuz it was hopeless I wouldn't bother risking putting my teammates at risk with connections for the chance I lived

I probably wouldn't have said anything but I was focusing on you in my lil brain. Probably not today, at least cause I'm not certain on like any of these

Yah I'm suspecting epi, people always have this problem of failing to see what I'm suggesting unless I outright say it but that's neither here nor there

What game was that?

If you're town, you should be playing like today is the only day of the game.

It is less that I didn't see what you were suggesting, more that it is good play to get people to commit to specific things. Now if you all the sudden start townreading Epi in a weird way later in the day because they're in thread and you need a vote from them, that would just be outing, but if you didn't actually commit to a read, it is harder to verify/convince others of this since you can claim that you didn't really suspect him and it becomes more subjective.

Scooby-Doo, day 3. I started arguing to protect Kate and them everyone's like "Dennis is an obvious wolf" and then I did not say anything and thread and died with like 9 people on my wagon

(Insert thinking emoji here) i see i see, I guess that makes sense

Maybe I'm just hedgy like in the way I talk and I imply things more than I outright say them

I looked at Scooby Doo, and I don't think the situation is comparable. There you had well-positioned teammates and it wasn't ELO, so going into anti-spew was the right move there. If today is do-or-die for your team, then your behavior here makes a lot of sense.

Why didn't you follow me onto Epi?

Splints joined me on six and I'm still more convinced six is bad

Really, convinced to a level that you will stake the game on it? I am town. Ask me anything.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 4:38 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 4:17 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 4:13 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 4:09 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 4:03 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 3:56 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 3:47 pm

You said you needed to spend more time solving in Seanzie/Falcon/Epi. Did you do that?

I'm tryin

Epi is confusing the hell out of me with his little popins. At the time I was the top wagon ergo wolves are content with it ergo wolves not really paying attention to the game and think it's pretty much over and I think it's possible that's what's happening there

Falcon does actually look townier the more I think about it because in a w!Falcon world, him talking to me back at start of day where I was convinced I was gonna get chopped just kinda gave me more fighting power and being quieter would benefit him more

Seanzie (woah that's you) has not said much today until like a few hours ago, unless I'm being self centered again. But I kinda just realized your suspicion on me was kinda unexplained save for that one post. Or, maybe it's less a suspicion and more some nerd stuff like "mathematically, Dennis has the most connection and is ergo bad" or whatever and it went over my head. I should have asked you why you suspect me sooner so uh.. what's up with that

I haven't gotten the feeling that you're genuinely solving. Today your effort has given me some pause, but I am wary that this is just because you feel like you need to or you'd be flipped. Prior to today, the vast majority of your takes have been things like "blah isn't playing like they did in blah", which is easily fakable since you don't really need to be considering someone's alignment to notice differences in their play from one game to the next. Couple that with the fact that you're in pretty much any reasonable team I can put together, makes you IMO the best elim today.

Even this - you said you were going to look into us earlier, but I think if I wouldn't have said anything, you would have never made this post. What is your read of Epi. He is confusing you and wolves are content - does that mean you suspect him?

The last time I was wolf in a situation like this I said nothing literally all day cuz it was hopeless I wouldn't bother risking putting my teammates at risk with connections for the chance I lived

I probably wouldn't have said anything but I was focusing on you in my lil brain. Probably not today, at least cause I'm not certain on like any of these

Yah I'm suspecting epi, people always have this problem of failing to see what I'm suggesting unless I outright say it but that's neither here nor there

What game was that?

If you're town, you should be playing like today is the only day of the game.

It is less that I didn't see what you were suggesting, more that it is good play to get people to commit to specific things. Now if you all the sudden start townreading Epi in a weird way later in the day because they're in thread and you need a vote from them, that would just be outing, but if you didn't actually commit to a read, it is harder to verify/convince others of this since you can claim that you didn't really suspect him and it becomes more subjective.

Scooby-Doo, day 3. I started arguing to protect Kate and them everyone's like "Dennis is an obvious wolf" and then I did not say anything and thread and died with like 9 people on my wagon

(Insert thinking emoji here) i see i see, I guess that makes sense

Maybe I'm just hedgy like in the way I talk and I imply things more than I outright say them

I looked at Scooby Doo, and I don't think the situation is comparable. There you had well-positioned teammates and it wasn't ELO, so going into anti-spew was the right move there. If today is do-or-die for your team, then your behavior here makes a lot of sense.

Why didn't you follow me onto Epi?

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 4:13 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 4:09 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 4:03 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 3:56 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 3:47 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 3:46 pm Oh well that's not a great vote either

You said you needed to spend more time solving in Seanzie/Falcon/Epi. Did you do that?

I'm tryin

Epi is confusing the hell out of me with his little popins. At the time I was the top wagon ergo wolves are content with it ergo wolves not really paying attention to the game and think it's pretty much over and I think it's possible that's what's happening there

Falcon does actually look townier the more I think about it because in a w!Falcon world, him talking to me back at start of day where I was convinced I was gonna get chopped just kinda gave me more fighting power and being quieter would benefit him more

Seanzie (woah that's you) has not said much today until like a few hours ago, unless I'm being self centered again. But I kinda just realized your suspicion on me was kinda unexplained save for that one post. Or, maybe it's less a suspicion and more some nerd stuff like "mathematically, Dennis has the most connection and is ergo bad" or whatever and it went over my head. I should have asked you why you suspect me sooner so uh.. what's up with that

I haven't gotten the feeling that you're genuinely solving. Today your effort has given me some pause, but I am wary that this is just because you feel like you need to or you'd be flipped. Prior to today, the vast majority of your takes have been things like "blah isn't playing like they did in blah", which is easily fakable since you don't really need to be considering someone's alignment to notice differences in their play from one game to the next. Couple that with the fact that you're in pretty much any reasonable team I can put together, makes you IMO the best elim today.

Even this - you said you were going to look into us earlier, but I think if I wouldn't have said anything, you would have never made this post. What is your read of Epi. He is confusing you and wolves are content - does that mean you suspect him?

The last time I was wolf in a situation like this I said nothing literally all day cuz it was hopeless I wouldn't bother risking putting my teammates at risk with connections for the chance I lived

I probably wouldn't have said anything but I was focusing on you in my lil brain. Probably not today, at least cause I'm not certain on like any of these

Yah I'm suspecting epi, people always have this problem of failing to see what I'm suggesting unless I outright say it but that's neither here nor there

What game was that?

If you're town, you should be playing like today is the only day of the game.

It is less that I didn't see what you were suggesting, more that it is good play to get people to commit to specific things. Now if you all the sudden start townreading Epi in a weird way later in the day because they're in thread and you need a vote from them, that would just be outing, but if you didn't actually commit to a read, it is harder to verify/convince others of this since you can claim that you didn't really suspect him and it becomes more subjective.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 4:06 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 3:57 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 3:54 pm @falcon45ca @Epignosis @SixStrings @DrWilgy @Dennis You're all voting single-vote wagons 4 hours before EoD in ELO.

This is not an okay thing.

Can you either get in here and make the case for your wagon, or can you coalesce? A single townie voting off-wagon today can lose it for us, so we really need to fix this.

I mean you weeere voting with me (insert rolling eyes emoji here)

If Six is mafia, who are their teammates?

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 4:03 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 3:56 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 3:47 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 3:46 pm Oh well that's not a great vote either

You said you needed to spend more time solving in Seanzie/Falcon/Epi. Did you do that?

I'm tryin

Epi is confusing the hell out of me with his little popins. At the time I was the top wagon ergo wolves are content with it ergo wolves not really paying attention to the game and think it's pretty much over and I think it's possible that's what's happening there

Falcon does actually look townier the more I think about it because in a w!Falcon world, him talking to me back at start of day where I was convinced I was gonna get chopped just kinda gave me more fighting power and being quieter would benefit him more

Seanzie (woah that's you) has not said much today until like a few hours ago, unless I'm being self centered again. But I kinda just realized your suspicion on me was kinda unexplained save for that one post. Or, maybe it's less a suspicion and more some nerd stuff like "mathematically, Dennis has the most connection and is ergo bad" or whatever and it went over my head. I should have asked you why you suspect me sooner so uh.. what's up with that

I haven't gotten the feeling that you're genuinely solving. Today your effort has given me some pause, but I am wary that this is just because you feel like you need to or you'd be flipped. Prior to today, the vast majority of your takes have been things like "blah isn't playing like they did in blah", which is easily fakable since you don't really need to be considering someone's alignment to notice differences in their play from one game to the next. Couple that with the fact that you're in pretty much any reasonable team I can put together, makes you IMO the best elim today.

Even this - you said you were going to look into us earlier, but I think if I wouldn't have said anything, you would have never made this post. What is your read of Epi. He is confusing you and wolves are content - does that mean you suspect him?

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 3:54 pm @falcon45ca @Epignosis @SixStrings @DrWilgy @Dennis You're all voting single-vote wagons 4 hours before EoD in ELO.

This is not an okay thing.

Can you either get in here and make the case for your wagon, or can you coalesce? A single townie voting off-wagon today can lose it for us, so we really need to fix this.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 3:47 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 3:46 pm Oh well that's not a great vote either

You said you needed to spend more time solving in Seanzie/Falcon/Epi. Did you do that?

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 3:45 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 3:42 pm Seanzie I was kidding wait

I just did it so I could take a screenshot for posterity.

SixStrings wrote: ↑Sat Apr 15, 2023 9:45 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Sat Apr 15, 2023 8:24 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Apr 15, 2023 8:23 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Sat Apr 15, 2023 8:19 pm I need more time to solve within falcon, epi and seanzie I think

You've got the same amount of time as the rest of us pal.

Yes but I need to put more time focusing on you three

since seanzie is on your list {as well as my own} lets discuss. I am leaning to vote seanzie tomorrow but we need to have some consensus. I am open to questions on me as well.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Apr 15, 2023 8:23 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Sat Apr 15, 2023 8:19 pm I need more time to solve within falcon, epi and seanzie I think

You've got the same amount of time as the rest of us pal.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Apr 15, 2023 8:12 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Apr 15, 2023 7:14 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Apr 15, 2023 7:04 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 11:11 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 10:23 pm If Falcon wins this game, I'm going to be pissed.

I'm town.




Why am I scum?

Seanzie defended you hardcore for no reason (as far as I can tell). Then there was a flip flop like I've never seen. I don't know what to make of it.

I'm a civilian and I've been annoyed that I haven't gotten my way and worse, it hasn't worked out.

I have to be open minded today I know.

Shouldn't that say more about Seanzie having TMI than anything to do w/ my alignment?




But also, I feel Sean has been very clear as to why he thinks I'm a bad lynch option D1, as well as how he approaches my slot as the game progresses.




I would like some reads from you on the remaining players plz

Why the hell do you leave so many spaces between lines?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Apr 15, 2023 7:57 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Sat Apr 15, 2023 2:41 pmGood lord

Are you sure?

SixStrings wrote: ↑Sat Apr 15, 2023 7:40 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Sat Apr 15, 2023 7:27 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Sat Apr 15, 2023 7:25 pm

SixStrings wrote: ↑Sat Apr 15, 2023 7:12 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Sat Apr 15, 2023 3:40 pm [VOTE: sixstrings] aubergine

Curious as to why?

I think you have kind of been coasting with the advice of your teammates in baddie chat. Your jump onto me was pretty unexplained and felt like you were following either your teammates advice to try and get me over

And now that I've fought back, wolves have started moving, chat is being picked up and it would be harder to push me with no explanation

(adding onto the last sentence that I just realized I did not finish)

and that's why you just backed off with the "still suspicious, but I don't want to lynch him)

You have voted me twice now. If I were bad and following advice from baddie chat, why not go after the leaders? Do you have a read as to who else might be bad ?