The Syndicate

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 7:27 pm [VOTE: SixStrings] aubergine, whom I don't even suspect.

fingersplints wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 6:09 pm

SixStrings wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 6:05 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 5:26 pm

SixStrings wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 5:23 pm I guess i should vote epi in order to save myself, on the off chance i am wrong about seanzie. At least i am certain that i am town

Do you actually have any takes on me and/or Fingersplints? You've thrown our names around as scum a lot, but never really said why you think this for either of us.

Splintz voted me which sparked reciprocity. It seemed to me that Seanzie pushed narrative against my likely town prospects, first dennis and then epi. My vote on epi at the moment is only to save myself . If I can convince dennis and splitz to change we can shift the tide.

I voted for you today after you voted for me and ignored when I asked why.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 5:26 pm

SixStrings wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 5:23 pm I guess i should vote epi in order to save myself, on the off chance i am wrong about seanzie. At least i am certain that i am town

Do you actually have any takes on me and/or Fingersplints? You've thrown our names around as scum a lot, but never really said why you think this for either of us.

fingersplints wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 4:28 pm Idk someone change my mind if they have better ideas

Dennis wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 4:56 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 4:38 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 4:17 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 4:13 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 4:09 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 4:03 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 3:56 pm

I'm tryin

Epi is confusing the hell out of me with his little popins. At the time I was the top wagon ergo wolves are content with it ergo wolves not really paying attention to the game and think it's pretty much over and I think it's possible that's what's happening there

Falcon does actually look townier the more I think about it because in a w!Falcon world, him talking to me back at start of day where I was convinced I was gonna get chopped just kinda gave me more fighting power and being quieter would benefit him more

Seanzie (woah that's you) has not said much today until like a few hours ago, unless I'm being self centered again. But I kinda just realized your suspicion on me was kinda unexplained save for that one post. Or, maybe it's less a suspicion and more some nerd stuff like "mathematically, Dennis has the most connection and is ergo bad" or whatever and it went over my head. I should have asked you why you suspect me sooner so uh.. what's up with that

I haven't gotten the feeling that you're genuinely solving. Today your effort has given me some pause, but I am wary that this is just because you feel like you need to or you'd be flipped. Prior to today, the vast majority of your takes have been things like "blah isn't playing like they did in blah", which is easily fakable since you don't really need to be considering someone's alignment to notice differences in their play from one game to the next. Couple that with the fact that you're in pretty much any reasonable team I can put together, makes you IMO the best elim today.

Even this - you said you were going to look into us earlier, but I think if I wouldn't have said anything, you would have never made this post. What is your read of Epi. He is confusing you and wolves are content - does that mean you suspect him?

The last time I was wolf in a situation like this I said nothing literally all day cuz it was hopeless I wouldn't bother risking putting my teammates at risk with connections for the chance I lived

I probably wouldn't have said anything but I was focusing on you in my lil brain. Probably not today, at least cause I'm not certain on like any of these

Yah I'm suspecting epi, people always have this problem of failing to see what I'm suggesting unless I outright say it but that's neither here nor there

What game was that?

If you're town, you should be playing like today is the only day of the game.

It is less that I didn't see what you were suggesting, more that it is good play to get people to commit to specific things. Now if you all the sudden start townreading Epi in a weird way later in the day because they're in thread and you need a vote from them, that would just be outing, but if you didn't actually commit to a read, it is harder to verify/convince others of this since you can claim that you didn't really suspect him and it becomes more subjective.

Scooby-Doo, day 3. I started arguing to protect Kate and them everyone's like "Dennis is an obvious wolf" and then I did not say anything and thread and died with like 9 people on my wagon

(Insert thinking emoji here) i see i see, I guess that makes sense

Maybe I'm just hedgy like in the way I talk and I imply things more than I outright say them

I looked at Scooby Doo, and I don't think the situation is comparable. There you had well-positioned teammates and it wasn't ELO, so going into anti-spew was the right move there. If today is do-or-die for your team, then your behavior here makes a lot of sense.

Why didn't you follow me onto Epi?

Splints joined me on six and I'm still more convinced six is bad

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 3:43 pm

SixStrings wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 3:42 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 2:11 pm

SixStrings wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 1:22 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 9:09 am Keep in mind we are in ELO everyone, which means that if even one townie votes wrong or the townies split between two wolves, wolves can stack and win. As such, we really need to coordinate our votes and it is especially important to be around near EoD so we can make sure there aren't any vanity votes. We have a little under 24 hours.

I understand that we need to coordinate. I don't understand ELO, but more importantly your post has flipped my vote as most likely to be wolf from you to splintz. Sadly my game is not all that multi faceted yet. Either you are genuine in your desire to bring town cohesion OR it was a great sales pitch.

ELO means "elim or lose", i.e. we are in a gamestate in which we absolutely MUST flip a wolf today or we insta-lose at EoD (sleep or miselim loses).

thanks for that

I don't think FS is the vote today.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 2:11 pm

SixStrings wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 1:22 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 9:09 am Keep in mind we are in ELO everyone, which means that if even one townie votes wrong or the townies split between two wolves, wolves can stack and win. As such, we really need to coordinate our votes and it is especially important to be around near EoD so we can make sure there aren't any vanity votes. We have a little under 24 hours.

I understand that we need to coordinate. I don't understand ELO, but more importantly your post has flipped my vote as most likely to be wolf from you to splintz. Sadly my game is not all that multi faceted yet. Either you are genuine in your desire to bring town cohesion OR it was a great sales pitch.

ELO means "elim or lose", i.e. we are in a gamestate in which we absolutely MUST flip a wolf today or we insta-lose at EoD (sleep or miselim loses).

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 9:09 am Keep in mind we are in ELO everyone, which means that if even one townie votes wrong or the townies split between two wolves, wolves can stack and win. As such, we really need to coordinate our votes and it is especially important to be around near EoD so we can make sure there aren't any vanity votes. We have a little under 24 hours.

Dennis wrote: ↑Sat Apr 15, 2023 8:24 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Apr 15, 2023 8:23 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Sat Apr 15, 2023 8:19 pm I need more time to solve within falcon, epi and seanzie I think

You've got the same amount of time as the rest of us pal.

Yes but I need to put more time focusing on you three

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Apr 15, 2023 7:14 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Sat Apr 15, 2023 7:13 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Apr 15, 2023 7:11 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Sat Apr 15, 2023 7:08 pm

SixStrings wrote: ↑Sat Apr 15, 2023 7:07 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Apr 15, 2023 6:52 pm @DrWilgy Where's your head at?


@Epignosis What was your question you had for me? What are your reads now?


@SixStrings Do you have any thoughts on anything? How are you reading Dennis today?

My suspicion of Dennis remains, however if I understand correctly, a miss this time equals a loss. That said, Dennis does NOT get the next lynch vote from me.

If you could kill one person right now, with the game on the line, who would it be and why?

(what does that mean)

It means I agree with your question

Dennis wrote: ↑Sat Apr 15, 2023 7:27 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Sat Apr 15, 2023 7:25 pm

SixStrings wrote: ↑Sat Apr 15, 2023 7:12 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Sat Apr 15, 2023 3:40 pm [VOTE: sixstrings] aubergine

Curious as to why?

I think you have kind of been coasting with the advice of your teammates in baddie chat. Your jump onto me was pretty unexplained and felt like you were following either your teammates advice to try and get me over

And now that I've fought back, wolves have started moving, chat is being picked up and it would be harder to push me with no explanation

(adding onto the last sentence that I just realized I did not finish)

and that's why you just backed off with the "still suspicious, but I don't want to lynch him)

Dennis wrote: ↑Sat Apr 15, 2023 3:40 pm [VOTE: sixstrings] aubergine

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Apr 15, 2023 6:52 pm @DrWilgy Where's your head at?


@Epignosis What was your question you had for me? What are your reads now?


@SixStrings Do you have any thoughts on anything? How are you reading Dennis today?

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Apr 13, 2023 6:59 pm

SixStrings wrote: ↑Thu Apr 13, 2023 6:57 pm [VOTE: Dennis] aubergine

Would you share your reasons with the group please?

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Apr 13, 2023 6:07 pm

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 4:29 pm

SixStrings wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 2:26 pm [VOTE: Lemonfairy] aubergine
Based primarily on the last day of comments from Dr Wilgy and Epi, I feel their interactions with Lemonfairy cast enough suspicion for my vote.

yo what
can you quote them and explain which parts you found suspicious?

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 4:29 pm

SixStrings wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 2:30 pm

SixStrings wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 2:26 pm [VOTE: Lemonfairy] aubergine
Based primarily on the last day of comments from Dr Wilgy and Epi, I feel their interactions with Lemonfairy cast enough suspicion for my vote.

This of course is subject to change, and I realize that it also does not help with any consensus as we have all voted for different people so far.

who else do you suspect aside from me then?

I don't think 6String ever address this?

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Apr 13, 2023 7:55 am

SixStrings wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 5:37 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 1:04 pm I don't really like how everyone is suddenly jumping on the low posters, but honestly I don't want to move to FX with multiple slots with very little content since that just forces us to roll dice. As such, I'd like to offer up Falcon here here, but I also think we should be very critical of who is pushing where and how.

I know a lot of people are talking about Matahari, but out of the low posters, Matahari definitely has done the most, and I kind of liked how when they were pushed about their D1 reads, they were just like "meh, I was GTH, I don't really have much to go on", which is the sort of laidback attitude that isn't unfakable, but that I more associate with town (rather than scum wo feel more pressure to have an explanation).

SixString is at best full on rand, even though I do have a question: @SixStrings you cited Wilgy and Epi as reasons to vote for Lemonfairy, but you had Epi on your scumlist, were you worried about listening to one of your scumreads on another?

Falcon is technically the most active of the 3 low posters, but honestly there really... just isn't anything there. Falcon can be lazy as town, but also definitely can town it up and there are times where I feel confident calling Falcon town, but this is not one of those times. On the other hand, scum!Falcon really doesn't town it up.

[VOTE: Falcon] aubergine

@falcon45ca get in here and do things if you're town.

Sadly my game approach is not that sophisticated yet. Not very multi layered as I am still learning the lingo.

I don't feel like this answers my question. Did you think about Epi's alignment when you decided to listen to them on Lemonfairy?

Roxy wrote: ↑Thu Apr 13, 2023 7:36 am @Dennis- You've been trying to play the same but it's off a bit. You made only (1) rainbow list is that bc you wanted to be able to claim later in the game you find it pointless? I mean really a rainbow list is in fact a baddies/teamie list. I am not sure I under stand *what* point you are making. Rainbows good, reads good but GTH baddie team lists are bad uh-ok.

@DrWilgy do I bother with you? For two games with you all I have done is defend my town play. Did you even remember our past games? Nope. It's *easier* to just continue on with this one post I can point to and be able to say "eww". Sorry my POE was shit. I am done trying to constantly trying to convince you of my townie-ness. It's tiresome and boring. So you can call be bad and mis-elim me from here to eternity and I will be ok with that <3

@Epignosis - you have been mentioned and talked about. But all you have done this game is pounce on Lemon, chat with Seanzie and vote for falcon. It's boring and quite ho-hum from what I can remember from playing with you previously. Not your style at all. Literally trying to shut convo down. You are not even hunting yourself since Lemon so why are you trying to tell players you cannot see a reason in their style of hunting? Look for one at a time? Well who is your one at a time? WHY?????

@falcon45ca It's like Seanzie has a button on his phone/computer that he presses when he posts about you and you pop right up like a trained puppy and post. I find it so funny tbh. It also however has me giving you and Seanzie the side eye. I am not agreeing with as much as normal and it has me worried. I did like your appeasment post about Mata bc I felt that way too. I still feel townie from you but now I am iffy on everyone.

@fingersplints - I hope I am not wrong about you. <3 Who do you think will be the best choice for a baddie elim? Maybe put them in some sort of order.

@Matahari - I am loving that we are all back and playing together again. I feel like you are having an hard time finding your footing in this game which in turn reminds me of L,G &M when we were bad together. Your posts had the same "lost" vibe and you never really put any roots down that game just like this one. It's why I find you suspicious. This post right here is what I am talking about. No roots. No solid takes.

@Seanzie - Even if your teams are all low posters, who cares at this point? Let's all try to get at least one name in common that we all find suspicious and elim them and go from there? At least it would be a start and something we all tried together. I am looking forward to your after work meeting but pre-elim thoughts today.

@SixStrings - I really, really hate that I think you are bad this game. I have asked you questions, asked you for GTH reads and you completely ignored my posts. You said you are unsure how to defend but can you learn by not trying? I find it difficult to learn that way in order to learn it one must try it first. So get your ass in here and tell me why I should not just vote you out. What makes you more town than other players? Do a rainbow. Make a list. Idc but try Six!

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 2:50 pm

SixStrings wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 9:55 pm

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 9:41 pm pls explain me first lol

and add Mata if you have time

The main reason for my listing you as 'wolf leaning" is that I started with likely town and worked down from there. The town slots are obviously limited so people tricked down into the other categories.

Mata is on the list as leaning toward wolf.

SixStrings wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 2:26 pm [VOTE: Lemonfairy] aubergine
Based primarily on the last day of comments from Dr Wilgy and Epi, I feel their interactions with Lemonfairy cast enough suspicion for my vote.

[VOTE: 6Strings] aubergine

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 1:04 pm I don't really like how everyone is suddenly jumping on the low posters, but honestly I don't want to move to FX with multiple slots with very little content since that just forces us to roll dice. As such, I'd like to offer up Falcon here here, but I also think we should be very critical of who is pushing where and how.

I know a lot of people are talking about Matahari, but out of the low posters, Matahari definitely has done the most, and I kind of liked how when they were pushed about their D1 reads, they were just like "meh, I was GTH, I don't really have much to go on", which is the sort of laidback attitude that isn't unfakable, but that I more associate with town (rather than scum wo feel more pressure to have an explanation).

SixString is at best full on rand, even though I do have a question: @SixStrings you cited Wilgy and Epi as reasons to vote for Lemonfairy, but you had Epi on your scumlist, were you worried about listening to one of your scumreads on another?

Falcon is technically the most active of the 3 low posters, but honestly there really... just isn't anything there. Falcon can be lazy as town, but also definitely can town it up and there are times where I feel confident calling Falcon town, but this is not one of those times. On the other hand, scum!Falcon really doesn't town it up.

[VOTE: Falcon] aubergine

@falcon45ca get in here and do things if you're town.

SixStrings wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 2:26 pm [VOTE: Lemonfairy] aubergine
Based primarily on the last day of comments from Dr Wilgy and Epi, I feel their interactions with Lemonfairy cast enough suspicion for my vote.

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 9:41 pm pls explain me first lol

and add Mata if you have time

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 9:38 pm

SixStrings wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 9:26 pm

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 9:13 pm not saying falcon is LHF (was just part of the question)
I hate getting called LHF

What does LHF mean?

low hanging fruit
someone who is easily persuaded

and easy to push as a misexe

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 9:13 pm not saying falcon is LHF (was just part of the question)
I hate getting called LHF

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 8:30 pm

SixStrings wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 6:23 pm Ok, as I have established, I am still very new and as such have offered very little dialogue. Though my silence might bring on some suspicion, I have chosen to observe more than comment. I will readily admit I have been wrong more than right so far on my guesses between this game and last.
Here is my question, "what would be the main benefit of commenting on my own suspicions ? It seems if I were correct it would get me killed.

Oi, but if you are town, and the rest of the town also thought this, what discussion would ever be had?

S~V~S wrote: ↑Thu Apr 06, 2023 6:01 am

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 05, 2023 9:29 pm also this is irrelevant but people who are more resistant to being voted actually makes me want to push them more

so um
yeah

Maybe we just have a different approach, becasue I am always resistant to being voted

My very good friend is hosting her first game on this site, and i hope to be here for all of it, not be miselimmed on day one for a vague reason. Also, I was not 100% sure you really believed I was bad based on what *I think* was my reaction to a host post. I am a person who over thinks things and I am trying to be more spontaneous in Mafia games, but I'm not sure that's working out for me,

*Your* name is a good role, I'm not sure I'll ever get used to my name being a bad role, so expect more "um what?" from me in the future.

SixStrings wrote: ↑Wed Apr 05, 2023 10:01 pm OK, still pretty new at all this but I will chime in. Seems too early to decide on a vote for wolf, however so far I am convinced S -V- S is town.

This is rather astute of you; may I ask why you think so? The other game we played, Muppets, I was in Crusader Rabbit mode, rather than defense mode, as I am here. And even though i do it myself, being defensive is pretty much generally viewed as kinda scummy. So not sure why you would have this thought.