The Syndicate

@Jackofhearts2005

What about other slots like me/Roxy/Scotty?

How are we not wolves?

This is kind of why I wished Zenon would have peeked someone else as peeking you was basically a waste being that vocal slots tend to resolve themselves, tbh.

With the game-state as-is I feel like the ideal peek would've been Pyxxy or Scotty.

tutuu wrote: ↑Mon May 29, 2023 4:45 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Mon May 29, 2023 4:12 pm Camilla has been really agreeable with most of my reads all game and is firmly wedged in the consensus town thots and it’s actually weirding me out

Should I be weirded out?
scotty is a cornered wolf trying to expand the poe

first he tried with alison now with camilla

Why expand the PoE with me and Alison since both of us still have Pyxxy/Falcon/Jack/Wilgy who are far more ML'able?

I don't get the wolf motivation behind these actions as going after both of us doesn't really feel optimal for a wolf in his position to make.

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon May 29, 2023 4:36 pm Day 2
How did we go from here:
Camilla wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 1:03 am -----------------
Camilla
Alison
Zenon
Scotty
tutuu

Rondo
Wilgy
J

falcon
Pyxxy

Roxy
-----------------

Roughly where I'm at, I think?

Don't necessarily think that the game's just as easy as Roxy/Pyxxy.

Pyxxy's lack of town entitlement was meh but the way Porscha/Pyxxy handled each other kind of doesn't feel W/W-ish at all.

Gonna head to bed and think about this when I wake up.
To here:
Camilla wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 11:40 am [VOTE: Prince J] aubergine
Your progression went:
-Roxy bad
-(me presenting argument that Roxy might be town with her meta)
-oh, you should have mentioned that earlier
-vote prince

why did you breeze straight past falcon/pyxxy, who were supposedly in the next tier?

Because J wasn't doing anything while at least Pyxxy/Falcon had presence in the thread.

Roxy's response to me voting her felt towny so I pretty much decided to focus on other people on my PoE.

J already phoned in d1 so I wanted the slot to do something rather than just slank until endgame.

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon May 29, 2023 4:12 pm Camilla has been really agreeable with most of my reads all game and is firmly wedged in the consensus town thots and it’s actually weirding me out

Should I be weirded out?

I mean, I've been making a high amount of reads this game since I started playing d2, so it's no real surprise that many of them seem agreeable.

Alison wrote: ↑Mon May 29, 2023 3:35 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon May 29, 2023 3:13 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Mon May 29, 2023 3:01 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon May 29, 2023 10:05 am
Alison wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 7:04 pm Do we have to consider camilla scum worlds if falcon is maf
falcon is town, what do your worlds look like then?

[VOTE: pyxxy] aubergine
If I had a greencheck on you right now I'd probably just accept that tutuu has a better read on the game than I do and hash out a solve with her.

So let's say you do, what would be your contribution to the hash solve? Who have ya got?
I'd probably sheep the read on Scotty and start there. Jack raises in suspicion by quite a bit due to a combination of the POE narrowing and the fact that he's been backing the push on you without taking the lead on it. Camilla is probably clear, the only reason to suspect her is if you were scum and she sided with you against Rondo. Wilgy stock probably goes down too since I think he has some partner equity with Scotty

I don't feel like there's anything else Jack could do gamestate-wise if he's V while wolfreading Pyxxy, though.

He basically subbed in a slot that had no pulse until D3 and only started playing right when falcon became the consensus elimination.

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon May 29, 2023 12:22 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon May 29, 2023 10:52 am Jack subs in and agrees with consensus scumreads how exciting.
It’s valuable information, so thank you for looking into the reads.

I am leaning towards town for your slot fwiw

Kind of agree and his perspective makes sense in a world where he's V and Pyxxy/Falcon are the last wolves, tbh.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon May 29, 2023 10:18 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon May 29, 2023 10:13 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon May 29, 2023 10:00 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon May 29, 2023 9:13 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2023 4:50 pm
Camilla wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2023 4:46 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2023 4:44 pm

I've already said I feel there's a wolf in the 3 of Neon/tutuu/Alison

Who's a wolf when I flip green? Book it, I'm town
2 of Rondo/J/Wilgy/Pyxxy.

I don't get how you think there's a wolf in those three?

A combination of gut feels & things I've read from them. One of em' is wolf, I'd bet my lunch
After isoing Falcon, this post is the crux of it all.

Falcon’s main contribution, possibly only contribution outside of AC/DC songs and declaring himself town, is to continually plop down an assurance there is scum in my two biggest townreads (granted, I just entered the game) and the dead cop. Falcon never really goes into if that’s a scumteam together or just they can’t all be town because X or attempts to evaluate within that group. Just continued 100% certainty of this very weird and wrong and vague read.

Then when asked why he’s like “gut and their posts.”

Whomp whomp.

I’m not going into my Falcon shininess meta because it’s unreliable. From a base level of “is this player hunting for wolves” and “are this player’s thoughts believable from a town perspective” I find Falcon to be very likely a wolf.

So lemme ask you, what is your scum team given that I am town?
I surely do not know.

Talk to me about Pyxxy and Alison.
Alison is being town read by some loud town voices, yet she's still aloive. Always sus when towny Alison is alive past D2, and her push on me again is with 0 interactions whatsoever.

Pyxxy I don't feel has done....much of anything. Seems to be playing the game rather tacitly

I don't think this is sus in this game since a doctor is still alive.

We also have a mech-clear in Tutu so I'd really only re-read Alison if we're both alive in XyLo or something to that effect.

Jack has been fairly uninspiring, tbh.

[VOTE: falcon45ca] aubergine

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 8:36 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 8:32 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 5:20 pm but alison and camilla wont like scotty vote

but idk it just feels like he's the deep wolf to me

[VOTE: falcon] aubergine
Can you make a bullet point list of why Alison? I can't make the move to add her to towncore even though I have liked what she's posted. Is it the Porscha vote?
-porscha vote, specifically sheeping me on it after townreading her before that
-just general obvtown since d1 via daytalk, cant rly explain it with words, if i couldnt it wouldnt be alignment indicative as she would emulate it as wolf

To add on the bolded there's also her progression on Porscha that felt roughly complex enough alongside Porscha's reaction to Alison's vote.

Like, Alison's the player alive rn that's most clear from Porscha's flip and I wouldn't re-read her until XyLo.

Alison wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 8:33 pm I think it's a valid point to say that pyxxy has coasted after being shielded D2

I mean, I feel like that can go to more than just pyxxy.

Shrug.

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 6:57 pm i dont think scotty + falcon team makes sense

scotty just ends up on the cw of a wolf - again - thats a suicidal strat. its not a thing

wilgy and roxy make sense as wolves only with pyxxy imo. otherwise its an unnecessary bus that they don't even capitalize too much. and they feel alone, as alison likes to say. i e they're doing their own thing by themselves

obviously i have to be wrong at least on 1 townread (2 if im wrong that scotty is wolf)

scotty + pyxxy and scotty + jack team feels cozy to me, sensible

honestly pyxxy + jack team also makes sense and feels cozy

scotty + pyxxy
scotty + jack
pyxxy + jack
pyxxy + wilgy

these teams feel cozy to me

When it comes to Pyxxy I feel like the team would depend if he's the RB'er or not.

If he is then I don't think Scotty would pile on him over Porscha but if not then yeah. If the team's exactly Scotty/Porscha/Pyxxy then Scotty is always the RB'er.

If Pyxxy's the RB'er then Wilgy's equity raises but I don't think he's likely to be the RB'er since Porscha parked her vote on him d1.

If Pyxxy's V then I feel like Wilgy's just a villa and the team's something like 2 out of Jack/Falcon/Scott

Falcon/Scott makes sense if Scott's play is to hard-wolfside here since then he'd be in the CW to two wolf elims.

Only wildcard that it's in your team is Jack since his slot hasn't really done much for the game, but with Wilgy/Scott trying to push him then I feel like if he's a wolf then he's likely with Falcon or Pyxxy as it's kind of dumb for W!Wilgy/W!Scott to push them when they could get chopped when we had two easy MLs being the lead-wagon.

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 6:28 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 6:10 pm Do you have any concrete reasons for suspecting Scotty beyond "too townie to be town"?
his voting record is wolfsided especially if pyxxy is town

he potentially had tmi that syn not revealing the roles was due to lazyness rather than a flipless game (i said that i thought its that itt, while camilla theorized we're flipless, and scotty said he thought the same as me) - which is another reason to tr camilla due to her lack of tmi (i am gonna assume that syn told the wolves what kind of game we're playing at) - and while i did, as town, have the thought that ended up being real (that im framing as tmi) - its also possible scotty came to that conclusion due to being mafia so he knew

scotty's pushes and reads seem to align with the consensus of the town at all times

scotty's whole playstyle seems to align with the consensus of what's considered likeable and expected from a good samaritan villager. thats not inherently scummy but it might be for scotty. because i find this uncharacteristic of scotty, a lot. you dont seem to put merit in "too townie to be town" but to me it has some merit depending on the player its being applied to. for instance in that 1 game ive seen falcon wolf, a few months ago - he was polar opposite from this one. he hyper posted, alison, genuinely hyperposted, explained his reads, did everything properly. in every single town game ive seen from falcon he's acting the same way he's acting this game. its just consistent

i dont have any particular damning ammo to shoot at scotty, but im putting more merit in my reasons to townread other people than him

i also had the early game townread on scotty due to this tone. but. right now, im putting more merit in the townread on prince j that he wouldnt dip the game as w/w with porscha. the reasons i outlined for townreading falcon earlier - im liking them more. if pyxxy is town, there's a lot pointing to wilgy town too. so to me scotty just ends up likely mafia due to poe (the original meaning of the term poe - process of elimination)

How would the role thing work?

Would they have asked in wolfchat if Seanzie flipped VT just because Syn didn't clarify it?

The argument that they'd already know that Porscha was never the roleblocker is there but I don't follow this argument.

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 6:04 pm im gonna make the educated assumption that mafia figured out zenon was cop before day 2 ended

because to me she was very obviously the cop. and i wasn't even looking to pr hunt. all info i had was knowing im town, and reading her posts

the mafia, also knowing im town, and also reading her posts, and having a much stronger desire to pr hunt - thats likely gonna lead to them figuring out shes cop somewhere around d2. and therefore they'd figure out im her n1 peek

so im gonna give roxy more town points for ending up voting for me. scum just doesnt do that. not likely to

i also wanna give falcon town points for that. for scumreading me towards the end

I still feel like we're assuming too much with this mindset.

There's a fair chance that it was a doc dodge being that you/Alison/Me were the likely doctor targets for last night while Zenon wasn't as while she was wolfread by multiple people both of us were still hard-shielding her.

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 5:58 pm can i ask you to go over why do you townread scotty again? @Camilla @Alison

The answer to this is that frankly I don't exactly know.

I kind of just gutread him as V d1 and I don't think that anything that he's done this game strongly moves the needle towards either direction.

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 5:46 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 5:39 pm falcon and Wilgy/Jack is my solve probably.
do falcon and wilgy/prince j identify zenon as the cop?

i think that points to at least 1 of the mafia paying attention

J's basically not playing.

So in this world then Falcon would always perform the nightkill unless Jack read the entire game before subbing in.

Alison wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 5:39 pm [VOTE: falcon] aubergine

falcon and Wilgy/Jack is my solve probably. Would fit everything that's happened this game.

Don't really think last EOD was V/V, the sudden shift onto Rondo was weird (he was in POE so not a total flash wagon but it was odd that there was a sudden push there when most people were content to sit on falcon before)

Would kill Jack over Wigly with Falcon W, tbh.

It just feels weird for Wilgy to bus Porscha in such a non-credit grabbing manner then for some reason make a level 0 move of avoiding their team-mate like this, tbh.

Looking back a Zenon kill kind of doesn't really make any sense for Falcon to do unless the wolves read her as PR, tbh.

Frankly I kind of just want my PoE to post rn.

Falcon's worldview should have undergone a massive shift with Rondo/You/Zenon V and Jack's slot will start playing the game rn.

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 5:18 pm pyxxy + roxy
pyxxy + wilgy
scotty + prince j

i just feel it in my gut its one of these. cant rly explain it

I feel like Pyxxy's alignment is ideal to know here.

If he's a roleblocker then I'd just kill Wilgy as that should be GG but if he's V then I'm probably putting Wilgy as just town as it'd make no sense to bus d1 like he did.

If he's V then the wolves are very likely just 2 of Jack/Falcon/Maybe Scotty.

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 5:10 pm i think scotty might be too towny to be town he's never this towny, no?

Err, could you explain why?

Camilla
Tutu
Alison

Scotty
Roxy

Wilgy
Jack
Pyxxy
Falcon

Pretty sure both wolves are in the bottom 4.

Plus, now at least we know that this game roles flip and that the doc and RB'er are still alive.

It's a bit irking that the cop and their check were on a player that I already had strongly TR'd but at least it shows that despite Rondo being a miss that we're probably in the right direction.

Zenon wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 2:46 pm
pyxxy wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 2:44 pm
Roxy wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 2:34 pm
Zenon wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 2:27 pm
Roxy wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 2:21 pm
Zenon wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 1:30 pm
Roxy wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 12:42 pm

why would I reset my world view? I know my alignment and I helped elim a townie that others wanted to keep.

how can anyone sit here and try and push me in good faith?
Because you are wrong Roxy. You are trying to kill fucking townies Roxy. That's why m
you were wrong D 1 imo. Trying to actively save a baddie. You were wrong I am sorry but maybe take a reread of Day 1 would help your world view.
I do not know if you are Town or if TuTuu is town but you played against the town yesterday.
I didn't play against the fucking town. I played for my reads like I'm doing here. Don't tell me to go reread the game when you don't even have the right reads and are clogging this thread attacking townies and trying to push them.
but I do not think you are town bc of your play yesterday actively trying to save a teammate. So Imma gonna push you, I am sorry.
.......consider.......tutuu.......instead?

..............I'm..............hesitant..............to............................pocket.......you..............again..............so soon............................but.....................

.......zenon..............often..............has..............strong reads..............no surprise..............if..............occasionally wrong..............

..............no.......surprise..............if..............she gets..............targeted..............by..............knowledgeable.......mafia..............looking for..............a pocket.......
So like maybe DON'T kill Tutuu.

In fact if you want to kill Tutuu I wanna die first. Kay.

Yh, I thought that it was you since she came into the thread TR'ing you but this comment just locks you in.

I'm just turbo'ing J tomorrow if he doesn't play tomorrow as he's basically been cruising this game over Porscha's ping.

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2023 4:57 pm
Camilla wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2023 4:56 pm Really hoping this shit's right.
There's always a high probability that both wagons are straight town.

But eh. We got lucky D1.

Hopefully this sorts out some POEs straight

That's kind of what I fear the most.

Really hoping this shit's right.

[VOTE: Rondo] aubergine

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2023 4:48 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2023 4:45 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2023 4:43 pm With Prince J MIA we can at least hope he'll either show up tomorrow or get replaced

We can hope
waat he 1-posted on day 1 but he posted a lot more on day 2, did you forget about his posts lolol
yes

and that's not a good thing

Ultimately I kind of just want him to either start playing or claim if he's a PR or not tomorrow as the way that he's playing the game is making him an extremely risky elimination as he's only been posting at the SoD and ghosting for the rest of the day.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2023 4:44 pm
Camilla wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2023 4:42 pm @falcon45ca

If Rondo's W then who's his last partner?

If he's a miss then who are the two wolves?
I've already said I feel there's a wolf in the 3 of Neon/tutuu/Alison

Who's a wolf when I flip green? Book it, I'm town

2 of Rondo/J/Wilgy/Pyxxy.

I don't get how you think there's a wolf in those three?

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2023 4:42 pm How we feeling with Rondo/falcon wagons? I feel pretty good that at least one of these is wolf

Maybe?

I'm still fairly certain on Alison/Zenon, a bit less on you/Tutu. Roxy is probably just a villa.

Atp Wilgy/J feel like reading tea leaves and are also in my PoE as Pyxxy so I'm not 100% certain that these wagons have at least 1 wolf in them.

@falcon45ca

If Rondo's W then who's his last partner?

If he's a miss then who are the two wolves?

So EoD's in 19 minutes and there's just us here.

=_=

Concern that I have with Rondo is that he's kind of just going with the flow which is kind of where I'd expect a wolf to do in this game-state while Falcon's at least trying to chase his own wolfreads in Tutuu, tbh.

[v]Falcon45[v]

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2023 4:04 pm oh i get to choose between making rondo or falcon the 4 vote wagon damn

last time i chose wrong

@Camilla who are u voting for? in case prince j stays at 0 non-you voters

@falcon45ca u might wanna self pres

Realistically I’d prefer Falcon to an extent. I still think Rondo’s obnoxiousness earlier on felt towny while Falcon felt more like bland oatmeal.

Idt J’s going to post for the rest of today, sadly.

I still want to kill him except I’m concerned that he may potentially be a PR. I’d just leave him for tomorrow, tbh.

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2023 12:13 am

me and camilla (she isnt that enthusiastic about it but she's tolerating me)

I'm frankly just tired.

My dog had diarrhea and I had to clean up my entire house because the idiot decided that it'd be fun to splash in his own shit and then run around the house during an online meeting I had as I'm currently working on a team project.

I should be in bed rn, tbh.

@~Prince J~ WAKE THE HELL UP AND COME POST YOU LITTLE FISH NUGGET OR ELSE I'LL DUNK ON YOU SO HARD THAT EVEN YOUR GREAT-GRANDCHILDREN WON'T BE ABLE TO PLAY BASKETBALL FROM THE PTSD I'LL GIVE YOU!

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 11:57 pm Maybe if we all say Prince J three times while holding a candle and looking into a bathroom mirror in the dark, he’ll come out to play

Prince J

Prince J

Prince J

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 11:32 pm if prince j is mafia he ditched the game despite randing mafia with the friend that invited him here as she was getting chopped d1. they'd have discord server where she could ping him. odd

if alison is mafia she started off townreading her teammate, then sheeped me and changed her read and voteparked her and killed her. she wasn't under pressure herself, noone scumread her. odd

if camilla is mafia she sat by d1 and watched her teammate die. yes she was sick but. she came in guns blazing d2, solved a fuck ton, started pushing for a player that was on the wolf wagon, most likely town if camilla is mafia (roxy). odd

if wilgy is mafia he sheeped on getting his teammate killed and then went back to being afk, not getting any cred. odd

if falcon is mafia he's emulating his town meta of low posting despite knowing how that gets him chopped every game. last wolf game he showed a preference to hyper post. although he did get vigged still so it didn't save him. i dunno. odd

if pyxxy is mafia ... i dunno. i dont think it would be odd as i find pyxxy's wolf range big, but a lot of my townreads that i trust the accuracy of are townreading pyxxy

if rondo is mafia -

im tired, i couldnt finish pyxxy, let alone other players. dont even wanna continue. ill just post it

I think the worse reasons are with J and Falcon here, tbh.

Falcon finished a wolfgame recently where he kind of did roughly the same thing where he only had one wolfread as in PSV and then OMGUS'd when he got pushed. Thing is I'm less certain of him as I feel like tonally he's less dry and I see a less rigidity in his read on you than I saw when it came to his read on PSV where he seems to be taking more of what's happening in the thread into account.

I don't think J's absence was done out of lack of interest as he tends to disappear for extended periods of time due to his schedule. I kind of wish he'd be in the thread more often but yeah.

I really doubt Alison hardbusses a partner early like this, especially after initially townreading her when Porscha wasn't getting any heat.

Wilgy is an eh, but the way he's been treating this game feels kind of like how Dennis did it in summer where he felt lazy-ish but honest.

Rondo is... I just feel like today he's been too in-your-face to be a wolf, tbh.

Pyxxy could be, but eh.

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 10:51 pm i dont know who to vote. i really dont feel like its falcon

[VOTE: unvote] aubergine

I think rather than wolfhunting the ideal way to approach this game is to townhunt and then kill the people who are the least towny, tbh.

Most of my PoE are kind of just phoning the game in so I'm not really getting much wolfpings from anyone.

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 4:42 pm
Roxy wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 4:22 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 3:46 pm
Roxy wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 2:26 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 2:10 pm [VOTE: falcon] aubergine

i dont feel it in my gut that he will flip wolf but i suppose i'll vote with alison and zenon
why would you vote someone you do not feel is wolf?
Didn’t you vote someone you didn’t feel was wolf?
When?
Oh I just backchecked- my bad, you didn’t vote for Camilla, but were willing to, even though you didn’t think she was wolf.

In any case, reading through your iso- unless my calculations were correct- you voted for Porscha as the tying vote and tried to get a bunch of people to vote on wagons which is a real +town move. The ONLY reason you’d be bad in this capacity is if your partner pyxxy is the role blocker, which others have also deduced.

You should not be voted today.

If Pyxxy is the RB'er then I'd nuke Wilgy/Roxy.

Thing is I kinda don't think this theory is likely since Porscha tried to shift the wagon onto him and he was fairly reluctant in pushing Porscha where if he were the RB'er then he'd have bussing privileges as having your roleblocker die d1 in a setup with a cop and a doctor is pretty much GG.

Also Idt Zenon's defense of Mac in Holes is equivalent to her defense of Porscha in this game.

"

uwu.

But seriously I don't think I've ever seen wolf Mac play like this. He was disjointed in his reads in Mafia Misplay but he was aggressive and loud and trying to get Sabi deep.

Here he feels lost confused and disjointed. He feels low WiM but not wolfy.

I want to help Mac get his WiM back because I was kind of following along with his wagon structure posts and I know how stronk he can be and I think misexeing low WiM Mac d2 is game losing."

Her defense of Mac there felt extremely wishy-washy like she didn't want to commit to the defense but still say that he's just null rather than wolfy, which is a huge partner tell FMPoV as wolves trying to defend each other tend to soft-defense their partners while in this game she was basically screaming that Porscha was town which showed more conviction.

I still think that she's more likely than not an incorrect villager being that it feels like she actually believes in her reads this game.

The fact that the competing wagon to the LL is a 3-man wagon on the player who was one of the primary pushers behind Porscha and who made her shutdown in pressure is a huge kekw moment.

pyxxy wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 2:12 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 11:54 am Had to get my Morse code translator set up to read pyxxy’s iso
pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 4:33 pm
pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 4:30 pm [VOTE: Zenon] aubergine

..............find me
.......sorry..............lost..............the plot..............for a second..............

.......so..............Zenon..............find me..............or don't..............I'll..............be fine..............I guess.......or not..............shrug

..............but..............you're..............acting............................weird..............

.......no townreads..............except..............Holes..............mafia..............esque.....................defense..............of Porscha..............

.....................hard..............defending.....................afk.......townies..............is.......my brand..............thank you.....................eh..............well.....................the more..............the merrier
Critical of zenon for emulating behavior exhibited in Holes Mafia where bad zenon defended a town. In this case, Porscha is not town.
pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 4:43 pm .......honestly..............zenon..............tutuu..............+1..............shrug

..............if I'm right..............you all..............owe me..............snacks.......

..............the way.......tutuu..............brought up..............my gimmick..............specifically..............to Zenon.....................mega pinged.......

.......especially..............when..............that game..............was.....................gimmick city..............and enforced..............not chosen..............

.......the.......real.......answer..............is..............first game..............here.......on TS..............I gimmicked.......

but..............ah..............you..............didn't know that..............did you..............tutuu..............

.......but..............I'll..............stop here..............and wait..............for anyone..............to respond.......

if..............I die..............I die..............and..............that's okay.......
15 min before eod
Tinfoiling tutuu and zenon are partners, while ignoring the Porscha wagon, and apathetically ‘ok’ dying

pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 4:50 pm ..............hm..............okay..............yes.......sorry..............you're catching up..............

I..............just..............want..............what..............anyone.......wants

..............why..............you haven't..............provided..............a wagon..............suggestion..............at all

..............why..............I'm scummy..............at all

.......your.......posts..............are just..............Porscha town!..............don't kill..............never.......pyxxy scum

.....................surely..............I.......cannot..............be..............your biggest..............scumread

.......surely........................................................
10 min left, still trying to peddle zenon

pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 4:53 pm .......okay..............I'll..............let it..............rand..............then.......
Noted

pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 4:54 pm ..............dear.......doc..............if..............porscha..............flips.......scum..............please..............save me T.T
Not clear why mafia would ever shoot here since pyxxy hasn’t expressed a suspicion of Porscha- if only for D1 wagonomics??

pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 4:55 pm
pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 4:54 pm ..............dear.......doc..............if..............porscha..............flips.......scum..............please..............save me T.T
.......for.......legal.......reasons..............vice versa..............either rand..............is..............a town clear..............unless..............SvS..............which..............I.......have..............this bridge..............to..............sell you.......
ah, ok. Don’t know why this would be a town clear. Sounds…………..to…………..me like………..scum setting up……….sigh…….the……………eventual flip.
pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 4:59 pm ..........................................sigh

.......y'all suck..............wagon zenon and tutuu.....................thx

[VOTE: Porscha] aubergine
Noted. Did not let it rand.

[VOTE: pyxxy] aubergine

Nothing pyxxy has done in this game exudes town. Energy wise? Meh, gimmicky, AI. That end of day was pretty lackluster, but also comprises a good chunk of his posts it feels like, trying to latch onto zenon/tutuu. It didn’t seem like pyxxy really wanted Porscha to go over, but it also felt like he didn’t want to go over, as witnessed by his admittance that he would let it rand, then self pres. I think he’s probably the role blocker
"Critical of zenon for emulating behavior exhibited in Holes Mafia where bad zenon defended a town. In this case, Porscha is not town."

.......Wrong.

.......Zenon.......defended..............scummate.......Mac.............................sir

.......for your..............reading..............pleasure.......
Zenon wrote: ↑Wed Jan 18, 2023 6:14 pm I... honestly don't think Mac is a hit here.

I think Dennis and FS are always better options.

I think that I can't personally view FS for a myriad of reasons chief amongst them not being allowed to move lol

Zenon wrote: ↑Wed Jan 18, 2023 6:40 pm uwu.

But seriously I don't think I've ever seen wolf Mac play like this. He was disjointed in his reads in Mafia Misplay but he was aggressive and loud and trying to get Sabi deep.

Here he feels lost confused and disjointed. He feels low WiM but not wolfy.

I want to help Mac get his WiM back because I was kind of following along with his wagon structure posts and I know how stronk he can be and I think misexeing low WiM Mac d2 is game losing.
"Tinfoiling tutuu and zenon are partners, while ignoring the Porscha wagon, and apathetically ‘ok’ dying"

.......I.......apologize..............for..............voting scum.......my bad..............won't..............happen..............again.......

[VOTE: pyxxy] aubergine

Can I have the link to Holes Mafia?

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 12:09 pm
Camilla wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 12:07 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 12:05 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 12:00 pm Who 3rd?
Haven’t done my DD but I’m thinking within
Prince/Alison/falcon
I think J has a chance of being a wolf going UTR as I don't think Porscha's ping to him is that significant.

He kind of just dipped the moment we brought up Porscha's ping and that's kind of unlike him as he's more enthusiastic than this.

He tends to have a hectic schedule so he usually just posts in bursts rather than threadcamp but it was kind of odd for his energy to suddenly dissipate that quickly.
Yeah Porscha’s ping is the only mention of him, and as I said in the Porscha iso, she listed 3 low posters, but didn’t mention prince. Why?

I think we're reading too hard into Porscha complaining about lowposters.

I'd say it's Rule of Three but Rule of Three has become such a popular tell that a lot of wolves don't do it anymore.

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 12:05 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 12:00 pm Who 3rd?
Haven’t done my DD but I’m thinking within
Prince/Alison/falcon

I think J has a chance of being a wolf going UTR as I don't think Porscha's ping to him is that significant.

He kind of just dipped the moment we brought up Porscha's ping and that's kind of unlike him as he's more enthusiastic than this.

He tends to have a hectic schedule so he usually just posts in bursts rather than threadcamp but it was kind of odd for his energy to suddenly dissipate that quickly.

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