The Syndicate

Stick wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 7:17 pm

robyn wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 7:15 pm oh wtf it was actually "robyn goodfellowe" and he didn't name the flavor after me LOL

YEA my person was Scotty

Yeah I figured out this much x_x which is why I wasnt as worried about Scotty and more just lost

robyn wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 7:12 pm if anyone is wondering where the second nk went, we didn't use it lol

yeah that

makes more sense now ;_;

gg wolves & sorry to town ;_;

kicking myself that I moved off Porscha there

:notlikethis:

glgl

Wilgy's town off EOD I think

got there in the end ;_;

ignore this if we lose and he's just won

baker wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 6:56 pm any town around? what the hell is going on

I dont get your sudden changes & posts coming into EOD & I'm worried that leaving my vote on Porscha if wrong is just gamelosing

I've never been so thoroughly fuckin confused by a game though x_x

[VOTE: BAKER] aubergine

I dont know man ;_;

I dont get this fucking game man

unvoted idk how to show that on the poll except the little host thing

baker wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 6:48 pm ah well this is sad

[VOTE: martingg99] aubergine

huh?

robyn wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 6:47 pm delta what are you doing rn

my best ;_;

I dunno, skimming Baker again since their recent posts have been fuckin odd

robyn wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 6:44 pmstick

stick?

robyn wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 6:37 pm delta what's your baker read

Trending downwards, their move to join Porscha was a little jarring & later posts have been kinda ehh

Kinda spooked, had kinda been sheeping a prior read there but posts coming into EOD werent great

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 6:27 pm

Delta wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 6:24 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 6:18 pm

Delta wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 5:41 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 5:38 pm

Delta wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 4:58 pm Just want to ask though Scotty, why did you take a nightkill happening as WIFOM about me rather than there being a mechanical explanation?

I dont think wolves were particularly setting up to kill a lowposter by NKing in the long run, feels pretty illogical

Are you kidding? That’s the most obvious, lev 1 explanation coming into today.

If I were a wolf (and I hate if I were a wolf arguments) this situation works out perfectly to make you the scald goat. I’m seriously confused how you don’t see that

What I mean is that like

Wolves are obviously going to kill, I dont see a reason they dont even if I am a wolf here. I dont think that's really tied to my alignment at this point?

My point was why is it WIFOM specifically over something mech wise when wolves always benefit from killing, rather than only killing to frame?

If we could get to a mech reason why there weren’t any kills, that would be easier to wrestle with motivations. On the surface, all we *really* have is a WIFOMy reasoning of Garebear being inactive for 2 NKs, you replacing and suddenly there being a kill.

Also, “Wolves are obviously going to kill”

Are they? That’s a jump to assume

????

We're in LYLO with a 3p claim

Why would wolves not put themselves in that position?

I don’t know what we’re talking about. Truly.

Why would wolves not kill N1 and N2? They lost an ENTIRE CYCLE needlessly.

That's what I'm asking ;0; why is the no kill WIFOM over something to do with wolf mech

You assumed WIFOM but I think it's unlikely because if true then they wasted a cycle in doing so

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 6:18 pm

Delta wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 5:41 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 5:38 pm

Delta wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 4:58 pm Just want to ask though Scotty, why did you take a nightkill happening as WIFOM about me rather than there being a mechanical explanation?

I dont think wolves were particularly setting up to kill a lowposter by NKing in the long run, feels pretty illogical

Are you kidding? That’s the most obvious, lev 1 explanation coming into today.

If I were a wolf (and I hate if I were a wolf arguments) this situation works out perfectly to make you the scald goat. I’m seriously confused how you don’t see that

What I mean is that like

Wolves are obviously going to kill, I dont see a reason they dont even if I am a wolf here. I dont think that's really tied to my alignment at this point?

My point was why is it WIFOM specifically over something mech wise when wolves always benefit from killing, rather than only killing to frame?

If we could get to a mech reason why there weren’t any kills, that would be easier to wrestle with motivations. On the surface, all we *really* have is a WIFOMy reasoning of Garebear being inactive for 2 NKs, you replacing and suddenly there being a kill.

Also, “Wolves are obviously going to kill”

Are they? That’s a jump to assume

????

We're in LYLO with a 3p claim

Why would wolves not put themselves in that position?

baker wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 5:56 pm

Delta wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 5:54 pm We need some sort of consolidation of votes anyway considering the circumstances

Issue is we're missing a lot of people ;O;

I dunno. I'm spooked by how easily Baker went with the vote ;_;

i wanted to make things interesting idk what i am doing tbh

Is this not interesting enough for you? ;_;

We need some sort of consolidation of votes anyway considering the circumstances

Issue is we're missing a lot of people ;O;

I dunno. I'm spooked by how easily Baker went with the vote ;_;

@MartinGG99

Where would you rather vote?

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 5:40 pm In any case, I’m currently voting you because of the optics of the day and I don’t want to pick between baker/wilgy and be wrong

?_?

Ultimately a vote on me is still wrong, though?

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 5:38 pm

Delta wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 4:58 pm Just want to ask though Scotty, why did you take a nightkill happening as WIFOM about me rather than there being a mechanical explanation?

I dont think wolves were particularly setting up to kill a lowposter by NKing in the long run, feels pretty illogical

Are you kidding? That’s the most obvious, lev 1 explanation coming into today.

If I were a wolf (and I hate if I were a wolf arguments) this situation works out perfectly to make you the scald goat. I’m seriously confused how you don’t see that

What I mean is that like

Wolves are obviously going to kill, I dont see a reason they dont even if I am a wolf here. I dont think that's really tied to my alignment at this point?

My point was why is it WIFOM specifically over something mech wise when wolves always benefit from killing, rather than only killing to frame?

Stick wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 5:37 pmim not tho

Stick wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 5:35 pm imagine if i were mafia here ahahahahha

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 5:35 pm

Delta wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 5:33 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 5:31 pm

Delta wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 5:30 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 5:28 pm

Delta wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 5:27 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 5:09 pm

I need you to give wilgy onion for multiple reasons pls do that

I think he's been weird in a wolfy sense but I'm kinda just conflicted there & I dont think he works with other people I scumread; mainly Martin but I guess yourself to an extent too? But a much lesser extent.

My friend you've been saying this since you joined the game. I need some receipts.

My friend I havent been in this game long, and nothing has really hit me that make me think otherwise

Can pull up some specific posts but it's more of a general vibe

Nah, it's cool, I'm just your high posting 4th wolf, don't mind me.

;_;

Go forth and solve. If anyone can it's you. I believe in you.

I will do my best \o/

Outside of the assumed slip earlier, can you run me through your thoughts on Martin?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 5:31 pm

Delta wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 5:30 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 5:28 pm

Delta wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 5:27 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 5:09 pm

Delta wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 4:14 pm [VOTE: PORSCHA] aubergine

for now while I sort through things

Stick 3P, dont think I'd flip Scotty/Robyn/Baker here - can get into those

Of the remaining, I'd rather go Porscha, maybe Martin, not 100% on Wilgy still so ?_?

Still going through why I'm reading people a certain way but eh

I need you to give wilgy onion for multiple reasons pls do that

I think he's been weird in a wolfy sense but I'm kinda just conflicted there & I dont think he works with other people I scumread; mainly Martin but I guess yourself to an extent too? But a much lesser extent.

My friend you've been saying this since you joined the game. I need some receipts.

My friend I havent been in this game long, and nothing has really hit me that make me think otherwise

Can pull up some specific posts but it's more of a general vibe

Nah, it's cool, I'm just your high posting 4th wolf, don't mind me.

;_;

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 5:28 pm

Delta wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 5:27 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 5:09 pm

Delta wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 4:14 pm [VOTE: PORSCHA] aubergine

for now while I sort through things

Stick 3P, dont think I'd flip Scotty/Robyn/Baker here - can get into those

Of the remaining, I'd rather go Porscha, maybe Martin, not 100% on Wilgy still so ?_?

Still going through why I'm reading people a certain way but eh

I need you to give wilgy onion for multiple reasons pls do that

I think he's been weird in a wolfy sense but I'm kinda just conflicted there & I dont think he works with other people I scumread; mainly Martin but I guess yourself to an extent too? But a much lesser extent.

My friend you've been saying this since you joined the game. I need some receipts.

My friend I havent been in this game long, and nothing has really hit me that make me think otherwise

Can pull up some specific posts but it's more of a general vibe

Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 5:12 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 4:49 pm Baker and delta setting up Porscha…hmmmmm

The worst part is i dont scumread them for doing it but it feels almost impossible there isnt likely 2 among wilgy/baker/delta. Maybe 1 if im fucking it up

Why do you think it's impossible that there wouldn't be 2 there?

Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 5:09 pm

Delta wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 4:14 pm [VOTE: PORSCHA] aubergine

for now while I sort through things

Stick 3P, dont think I'd flip Scotty/Robyn/Baker here - can get into those

Of the remaining, I'd rather go Porscha, maybe Martin, not 100% on Wilgy still so ?_?

Still going through why I'm reading people a certain way but eh

I need you to give wilgy onion for multiple reasons pls do that

I think he's been weird in a wolfy sense but I'm kinda just conflicted there & I dont think he works with other people I scumread; mainly Martin but I guess yourself to an extent too? But a much lesser extent.

Just want to ask though Scotty, why did you take a nightkill happening as WIFOM about me rather than there being a mechanical explanation?

I dont think wolves were particularly setting up to kill a lowposter by NKing in the long run, feels pretty illogical

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 4:47 pm

Delta wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 3:53 pm I feel kinda lost here because I came into today with a POE of Porscha/Wilgy/Martin and then throughout today I feel like they work less and less?

And I get now is the time for wolves to distance because all they need is one kill to win so hard pairing can kinda throw that away but like
it feels natural? Rather than an unpairing thing

I dunno. It's weird & I dont really know what to make of it?

I feel like now is the time for wolves to just pick a non mafia target and consolidate there. I don’t think distancing is really on the radar

Depends

Stick's said that her target doesn't conflict with POE, so in turn there kinda has to be some truth to the general POE I think? So even if they do have a deepwolf candidate, they do need to try work to make sure that they dont go over and someone else does, so consolidation shouldnt really work in this situation? At least I think, I dont really know ;_;

Stick wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 4:26 pm

Delta wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 4:17 pm

Stick wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 4:16 pm guys fun fact i always lose as 3p T-T

I cant even say "I hope you lose again" because if your target is town I need you to not really lose here ;_;

this one game i played i was mafia n there was a SK who KNEW ALL THE MAFIA IDENTITIES and she tried yeeting me d1-d2 unsuccessfully, then tried vig'ing me N2 unsuccessfully, then got me yeeted D3 and i eventually lost the game so i despise 3ps and need to win here for justice

LMAO

My last game on this site was a 3p rand where I had to guess who would get voted out across two different threads ;_; tried wolfsiding, died on the spot, never again

baker wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 4:23 pm @Delta

do you have anyone tied to Porscha?

Not really? I'm hoping today we hit a wolf and then I can spiral from there, for now I'm looking at people individually

Probably not the best idea but I'd like to get one wolf and then look at partner interactions after, rather than seeking pairings

Delta wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 4:14 pm [VOTE: PORSCHA] aubergine

for now while I sort through things

Stick 3P, dont think I'd flip Scotty/Robyn/Baker here - can get into those

Of the remaining, I'd rather go Porscha, maybe Martin, not 100% on Wilgy still so ?_?

Still going through why I'm reading people a certain way but eh

Part of the Baker one I can just explain without going into too much but it comes down to Robyn's read there if anything; people that know each other can get the other wrong, but ultimately if Robyn's v they're likely to be right there since we're at a point where they would need to relook that read just in case, the fact there's no change in heart is probably a good sign? & If Robyn's a wolf, I find it unlikely they'd try push that their partner is town in this way because it's a far weaker read and looks a lot worse on them if Baker does flip

Hopefully that makes sense ;_; that's what I'm rocking with right now

Stick wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 4:16 pm guys fun fact i always lose as 3p T-T

I cant even say "I hope you lose again" because if your target is town I need you to not really lose here ;_;

[VOTE: PORSCHA] aubergine

for now while I sort through things

Stick 3P, dont think I'd flip Scotty/Robyn/Baker here - can get into those

Of the remaining, I'd rather go Porscha, maybe Martin, not 100% on Wilgy still so ?_?

Still going through why I'm reading people a certain way but eh

baker wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 4:05 pm i was trying pineapple pizza for the first time and it was so gross

how close are we to EoD?

3 hours off

pineapple is great on pizza wdym

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 4:00 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 4:41 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 2:37 am

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 02, 2024 8:52 pm but if you want the vague answer

I think Wilgy has been very direct at times on trying to advance and solve the game, his interactions with scotty d2 made me feel positive about both of them, and just progression in general

even now his gameplan here seems to be rather pragmatic on trying to achieve his wincon and that's something I sympathize a bit with

you mean 'our wincon?'

ew wilgy stop doing this lol martin's post already gave me the ick as it was

If it looks like a duck and sounds like a duck

quack

Going through my main POE and trying to get thoughts down into words;

Porscha; a lot of her play around me is odd where there's mentions of reading me well but making no move to do so. We got here around the same point and like. She greets me n shit but then focuses a lot of talking about myself and her despite having no real read on me? It feels less like "oh we're in this together :>" and more "oh there's this townie I can compare myself to" & the lack of read on me despite her acknowledging she can read me is weird. When backreading I generally didn't really vibe with Abi's posts? That's less coherent than the thoughts on Porscha but mainly Porscha's approach towards me feels weird. More of a general thing, she comes across more 'lots of words but little meaning' reading through posts like her walls n stuff

I can grab posts for that since I dont know if just doing p#number works or not ;O;

I feel kinda lost here because I came into today with a POE of Porscha/Wilgy/Martin and then throughout today I feel like they work less and less?

And I get now is the time for wolves to distance because all they need is one kill to win so hard pairing can kinda throw that away but like
it feels natural? Rather than an unpairing thing

I dunno. It's weird & I dont really know what to make of it?

HIHI

here until EOD, sorry ;O;

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Jan 02, 2024 4:55 pm

Delta wrote: ↑Tue Jan 02, 2024 4:22 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Jan 02, 2024 3:46 pm Just perusing delta again in a vacuum of just today;

Delta wrote: ↑Mon Jan 01, 2024 7:03 pm Fuck me I wish I'd died yesterday now that's

More than annoying LMAO

If anyone has any mech surrounding potential no kills now would be the time to out that

This first post of the day rubs me the wrong way. Basically tries to clear the air around how bad it looks for them. As I said earlier, pretty WIFOMy but also this is an easy woe-is-me post to make.

Delta wrote: ↑Mon Jan 01, 2024 10:08 pm

robyn wrote: ↑Mon Jan 01, 2024 10:04 pm out your person, @Stick

@Delta what are your reads as of right now?

[VOTE: wigly] aubergine

I think Porscha could be a wolf & if so, Wilgy could be as well for how he reacted to me EOD?. I do believe his SOD though & said I'd reread him if LC flipped v which happened so eh

I think Stick has to be 3p looking at numbers and the situation we're in

Outside of that I am v curious about Martin's EOD and Scotty in general since I didn't see much of him yesterday, same w Baker

Delta’s POE: Porscha/Wilgy/Martin/Scotty/baker/count chocula/the stench coming from the bathroom

I feel like I was pretty around yesterday. And martin’s eod was not unlike his behavior all game. Granted, you only had yesterday as live context, but my point stands that you seem pretty open to tinfoiling over half the player list.

I feel like your slight shade of Wilgy while also hedging looks wolf compatible

Doesn't really clear the air? Just me expressing my thoughts since coming into a kill today was not what I really expected

& yeah I dunno if you realised this but half the playerlist are wolves at this point :wowee: I have to be pretty open about things, especially since I wasnt here beforehand. My main POE are the first 3 & yourself/Baker are more "I'd like to check in with these people"

I get your point but my point was that the breadth of your Poe is too wide at this point, and it comes off as opportunistic

I get you, like I said theres a main 3 POE and then 2 people I'd like to check in with \o/ rather than a straight POE of 5 even though I'm not 100% on my given 3 right now anyway

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Jan 02, 2024 4:55 pm

Delta wrote: ↑Tue Jan 02, 2024 4:24 pm Voting Stick is autoloss unless someone else is 3p and would like to speak up because it's LYLO, she dies, wolves kill, wolves win.

Baker idling there isn't good if they're town because it means wolves can just chill and snipe Stick for the win. So I'm worried about them snapping there then disappearing when it's not the play based on numbers.

If baker never comes back, how do you view that slot?

If they never come back? Ehh

I want to assume they'll check in either way before EOD but if they just up and leave I almost want to assume town? I would like to think a partner would prod em to show up at that point. But I dont think it's something I could really say would be indicative either way.

I'm more interested in their reentrance if anything

@robyn

Did you ever case Wilgy? I cant find it if so ;O;

Voting Stick is autoloss unless someone else is 3p and would like to speak up because it's LYLO, she dies, wolves kill, wolves win.

Baker idling there isn't good if they're town because it means wolves can just chill and snipe Stick for the win. So I'm worried about them snapping there then disappearing when it's not the play based on numbers.

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Jan 02, 2024 3:46 pm Just perusing delta again in a vacuum of just today;

Delta wrote: ↑Mon Jan 01, 2024 7:03 pm Fuck me I wish I'd died yesterday now that's

More than annoying LMAO

If anyone has any mech surrounding potential no kills now would be the time to out that

This first post of the day rubs me the wrong way. Basically tries to clear the air around how bad it looks for them. As I said earlier, pretty WIFOMy but also this is an easy woe-is-me post to make.

Delta wrote: ↑Mon Jan 01, 2024 10:08 pm

robyn wrote: ↑Mon Jan 01, 2024 10:04 pm out your person, @Stick

@Delta what are your reads as of right now?

[VOTE: wigly] aubergine

I think Porscha could be a wolf & if so, Wilgy could be as well for how he reacted to me EOD?. I do believe his SOD though & said I'd reread him if LC flipped v which happened so eh

I think Stick has to be 3p looking at numbers and the situation we're in

Outside of that I am v curious about Martin's EOD and Scotty in general since I didn't see much of him yesterday, same w Baker

Delta’s POE: Porscha/Wilgy/Martin/Scotty/baker/count chocula/the stench coming from the bathroom

I feel like I was pretty around yesterday. And martin’s eod was not unlike his behavior all game. Granted, you only had yesterday as live context, but my point stands that you seem pretty open to tinfoiling over half the player list.

I feel like your slight shade of Wilgy while also hedging looks wolf compatible

Doesn't really clear the air? Just me expressing my thoughts since coming into a kill today was not what I really expected

& yeah I dunno if you realised this but half the playerlist are wolves at this point :wowee: I have to be pretty open about things, especially since I wasnt here beforehand. My main POE are the first 3 & yourself/Baker are more "I'd like to check in with these people"

Stick wrote: ↑Tue Jan 02, 2024 10:54 am LOL

some people said they’d re-eval baker if I flipped town and now that you basically have my flip as not-mafia, im interested to hear what those people have to say about baker and his push on me in light of that

(I’ve already forgotten who these people were but there were definitely a few who floated the dichotomy)


Also people focusing more on my slot this phase are objectively wolfy

I'll go reread those who were pushing that, give me a sec \o/

Stick wrote: ↑Tue Jan 02, 2024 10:45 am Wait acc i dun need to be doing this

No please help me out

Stick wrote: ↑Tue Jan 02, 2024 9:24 am oh and also could you go over the reasons you TL me yesterday (iirc you said there were some bad reasons for it but didn’t elaborate)

It didnt feel like you were overly conscious of how you were posting which I attribute to your wolf game a lot

I called it bad reasons because part of it was you miscounting the amount of people in one of Wilgy's posts which realistically it's NAI but gave some sortve indication that you werent too worried about any TMI in your posts

Stick wrote: ↑Tue Jan 02, 2024 8:02 am I personally don’t really see how that isn’t 100% surface level fakeable

What do you like about it?

Last line, I know it's fakeable but the whole 'theres only so much I can do' felt genuine to me I guess?

Stick wrote: ↑Tue Jan 02, 2024 7:44 am thoughts on wilgy?

Really conflicted, think he could be a wolf but at the same time I believe that he believes his SOD entrance

I need to double check if Robyn cased him while I was gone otherwise I'll try summarise my thoughts on everyone when I can

Stick wrote: ↑Tue Jan 02, 2024 5:07 am

Delta wrote: ↑Mon Jan 01, 2024 9:14 pm Partially why I asked about who her target was but I dont think it does too much thinking about it

wdym?

I thought about it and kinda figured you shouldn't out your target here, it's not overly useful here for reasons I dont really want to elaborate on ;;'