The Syndicate

So have a Win as Survivor/3rd Party & as Wolf/Mafia.

When will my town W come?

D:

hehe, i was the 3rd party xD

if the game's over, pyxxy was my fav town <3

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:14 am
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:11 am theres like 14 pages i need to catch up on, so can anyone please like whats happening? the mafia has revealed themselves? or were they outed? is the game over?
Tutuu Robyn porscha outed by Robyn and not contested by tutuu or porscha

Game is basically over waiting for Roxy to end it or we chop through wolves and find 3p if needed (leetic)

thank u, did leetic also out themselves as 3rd party or how was that discovered?

theres like 14 pages i need to catch up on, so can anyone please like whats happening? the mafia has revealed themselves? or were they outed? is the game over?

so rondo, you can green on players and also can break a tie, but only if its scum? what? crazy role

pyxxy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:33 am
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:31 am
pyxxy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:29 am
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:26 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:23 am The things you are saying you would do as mafia a good wolf wouldn't have done because it would have outed you.

A good wolf wouldn't just pivot to vote Mac after pocketing him just because he has votes on him. Miselim occurred anyway.

A good wolf wouldn't vote out Rondo after he's green checked.
yeah, but i am not a good wolf, im a great one;

i mean a great wolf would have stayed quiet and would have let lc and rondo take the train and get the votes to elim you

a great wolf would have just not bothered, especially if all the lynch candidates were town
my dear town Long Con won your last mafia game for you

Spoiler: show
jk

hahaha just saw the spoiler! :P i was gonna be upset if u discredited my wolf game just like that !
are u a wolf here be honest

so that Long Con can give me the pelt he owes me

nah, town here

honestly, wolves are probably mad chillin rn, all this focus on me another townie is just less attention from them being found

pyxxy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:29 am
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:26 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:23 am The things you are saying you would do as mafia a good wolf wouldn't have done because it would have outed you.

A good wolf wouldn't just pivot to vote Mac after pocketing him just because he has votes on him. Miselim occurred anyway.

A good wolf wouldn't vote out Rondo after he's green checked.
yeah, but i am not a good wolf, im a great one;

i mean a great wolf would have stayed quiet and would have let lc and rondo take the train and get the votes to elim you

a great wolf would have just not bothered, especially if all the lynch candidates were town
my dear town Long Con won your last mafia game for you

Spoiler: show
jk

hahaha just saw the spoiler! :P i was gonna be upset if u discredited my wolf game just like that !

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:03 am
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:01 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:00 am
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:55 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:52 am
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 2:07 am @RondoDimBuckle why are u pushing Mac when hes probably my strongest town read? If town, not helpful. If wolf, not helpful.
Oh Rondo. Yeah so you pushed a town who was pushing me for pushing me.

Good wolf play. You saw a townie being wrong pushing a townie you'd been pocketing and called them out. Go you.
yeah, because I knew Rondo was town? this was way before the green check; and also wouldnt have a wolf just encourage rondo and gone along with it instead of questioning it?
nah it looks too good when Mac flips because he was high chance of flipping that day
what looks too good?
mac flips because town is dumb and he was wrong and really fucked up with the sig push and flip so they raging bull push him over. You tell me off, the one who is scummiest town so when mac goes over to the dumb push by me I look even worse and become legit pushable the next day instead of wifoming town. Its a brilliant move to go deep

hmmm, okay, im not sure what to take from this

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:00 am
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:55 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:52 am
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 2:07 am @RondoDimBuckle why are u pushing Mac when hes probably my strongest town read? If town, not helpful. If wolf, not helpful.
Oh Rondo. Yeah so you pushed a town who was pushing me for pushing me.

Good wolf play. You saw a townie being wrong pushing a townie you'd been pocketing and called them out. Go you.
yeah, because I knew Rondo was town? this was way before the green check; and also wouldnt have a wolf just encourage rondo and gone along with it instead of questioning it?
nah it looks too good when Mac flips because he was high chance of flipping that day

what looks too good?

frankly, good luck finding the wolves, darlingmonroe signing off

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:55 am In fact you pushed two townies there.

Pushed Rondo then Serhal.

So yeah you shielded me, a town. That's cool of you and all but wolves shield me. In this game with the POE we have shielding me is mechanically confirmed to have been a wolf tactic because everyone who was pushing me is a clear lol.

this is after the fact, youre assuming that as a wolf i push for 2 town players like that? knowing they will flip town? yeah, no, thats not bright

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:52 am
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 2:07 am @RondoDimBuckle why are u pushing Mac when hes probably my strongest town read? If town, not helpful. If wolf, not helpful.
Oh Rondo. Yeah so you pushed a town who was pushing me for pushing me.

Good wolf play. You saw a townie being wrong pushing a townie you'd been pocketing and called them out. Go you.

yeah, because I knew Rondo was town? this was way before the green check; and also wouldnt have a wolf just encourage rondo and gone along with it instead of questioning it?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:50 am
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:49 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:48 am
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:47 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:43 am
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:40 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:37 am

You said a great wolf would sit back and let town do the dirty work.

You say back and let Rondo fall into a tie. That's quite literally what you did by voting Serhal over Pyxxy or Scotty.
Hmmm, if voting for someone i legit scum read incorrectly is taking a seat back, i think we have diff approaches to sitting back; again, great wolf would have just let town vote you out and not step in when i did
Show me how you prevented me getting voted out again.
i called out the lack of rhetoric involving your votes, @ people who had votes against you, and joined w/ a vote towards a player i felt was scummy which then lead them to have like 5/6 votes and you with like 1 and then 0
which player was that?
bruh
Which player did you push over that saved me? Was it a wolf?

did i say it was a wolf? im just trying my best with the info i have, same like you

so you, a town experienced player, that i have probably wrongly trusted bc of their experience, hasn't also voted a wolf as far as im concerned; the only difference is im open minded and aware enough to understand they might be town errors than assume youre a wolf mastermind who has systematically eliminated all townies

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:48 am
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:47 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:43 am
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:40 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:37 am
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:35 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:34 am How have I lost you.

Your defense for "I'm not mafia" is to describe what no mafia player would do as though it is what you'd actually have done.

And now in your latest post you're describing what you actually did do re. Rondo as though that's what you didn't do.

I need 6 beers. And headache pills. Someone take over I'm dying.
what? how?
You said a great wolf would sit back and let town do the dirty work.

You say back and let Rondo fall into a tie. That's quite literally what you did by voting Serhal over Pyxxy or Scotty.
Hmmm, if voting for someone i legit scum read incorrectly is taking a seat back, i think we have diff approaches to sitting back; again, great wolf would have just let town vote you out and not step in when i did
Show me how you prevented me getting voted out again.
i called out the lack of rhetoric involving your votes, @ people who had votes against you, and joined w/ a vote towards a player i felt was scummy which then lead them to have like 5/6 votes and you with like 1 and then 0
which player was that?

bruh

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:47 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:43 am
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:40 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:37 am
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:35 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:34 am How have I lost you.

Your defense for "I'm not mafia" is to describe what no mafia player would do as though it is what you'd actually have done.

And now in your latest post you're describing what you actually did do re. Rondo as though that's what you didn't do.

I need 6 beers. And headache pills. Someone take over I'm dying.
what? how?
You said a great wolf would sit back and let town do the dirty work.

You say back and let Rondo fall into a tie. That's quite literally what you did by voting Serhal over Pyxxy or Scotty.
Hmmm, if voting for someone i legit scum read incorrectly is taking a seat back, i think we have diff approaches to sitting back; again, great wolf would have just let town vote you out and not step in when i did
Show me how you prevented me getting voted out again.
i called out the lack of rhetoric involving your votes, @ people who had votes against you, and joined w/ a vote towards a player i felt was scummy which then lead them to have like 5/6 votes and you with like 1 and then 0

or what do you think happened? lmao

also townies are way more prone to make wrong lynches/reads than wolves who are way more cautious about revealing how much they know

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:43 am
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:40 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:37 am
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:35 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:34 am How have I lost you.

Your defense for "I'm not mafia" is to describe what no mafia player would do as though it is what you'd actually have done.

And now in your latest post you're describing what you actually did do re. Rondo as though that's what you didn't do.

I need 6 beers. And headache pills. Someone take over I'm dying.
what? how?
You said a great wolf would sit back and let town do the dirty work.

You say back and let Rondo fall into a tie. That's quite literally what you did by voting Serhal over Pyxxy or Scotty.
Hmmm, if voting for someone i legit scum read incorrectly is taking a seat back, i think we have diff approaches to sitting back; again, great wolf would have just let town vote you out and not step in when i did
Show me how you prevented me getting voted out again.

i called out the lack of rhetoric involving your votes, @ people who had votes against you, and joined w/ a vote towards a player i felt was scummy which then lead them to have like 5/6 votes and you with like 1 and then 0

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:43 am Also you just slipped that you know I'm town.

i mean, idk 100%

but i just dont think youre wolf;

usually top posters are always town and i like ive said, if youre wolf, awesome job

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:37 am
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:35 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:34 am How have I lost you.

Your defense for "I'm not mafia" is to describe what no mafia player would do as though it is what you'd actually have done.

And now in your latest post you're describing what you actually did do re. Rondo as though that's what you didn't do.

I need 6 beers. And headache pills. Someone take over I'm dying.
what? how?
You said a great wolf would sit back and let town do the dirty work.

You say back and let Rondo fall into a tie. That's quite literally what you did by voting Serhal over Pyxxy or Scotty.

see, i think a great wolf would have kept serhal around and not even bothered to vote serhal; would have stayed on rondo or scotty and logged out

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:37 am
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:35 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:34 am How have I lost you.

Your defense for "I'm not mafia" is to describe what no mafia player would do as though it is what you'd actually have done.

And now in your latest post you're describing what you actually did do re. Rondo as though that's what you didn't do.

I need 6 beers. And headache pills. Someone take over I'm dying.
what? how?
You said a great wolf would sit back and let town do the dirty work.

You say back and let Rondo fall into a tie. That's quite literally what you did by voting Serhal over Pyxxy or Scotty.

Hmmm, if voting for someone i legit scum read incorrectly is taking a seat back, i think we have diff approaches to sitting back; again, great wolf would have just let town vote you out and not step in when i did

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:36 am Anyway with great fortune two of the players out of the three appear to be mechanically town so DM just gave @Long Con and @Scotty the job of being right about them.

Over to you gents. I've tried lol.

you have just decided to not town read me bc i town read you, which is just strange

youre just finding any reason to wolf read me when truth is, im not wolf, so good luck with that

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:35 am
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:33 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:28 am
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:27 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:25 am
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:23 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:20 am omg who has the most experience with you
i think ive played the most games with robyn, lc, and scotty? so i guess if thats the measure they would have the most experience with me
Okay which of those two would you give the task of solving you if all three would die if they got it wrong lol.
none of them
Then you die anyway. So you have to pick. It's an experiment so humour me.
robyn and lc, but this is an odd set-up;
@Scotty, why doesn't DM prefer you to read them in a life or death?

i just never found scotty to provide any good reads re: me

while robyn and lc, they still read me wrong, but at least i feel more comfortable with them

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:34 am How have I lost you.

Your defense for "I'm not mafia" is to describe what no mafia player would do as though it is what you'd actually have done.

And now in your latest post you're describing what you actually did do re. Rondo as though that's what you didn't do.

I need 6 beers. And headache pills. Someone take over I'm dying.

what? how?

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:32 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:28 am What a good wolf would do. Pocket Mac. Steer Mac into comfort on his bad reads. Vote lhf Serhal but in a way that doesn't risk the Rondo tie turning into a tie with a teaamate like Pyxxy. Not vote a teammate into a threatening position.

What a not good wolf would do. Pocket Mac. Throw it away to vote him despite having great positioning and no wolves feeling threatened. Vote Rondo after being green checked and outing yourself.

You are essentially saying "I'm not mafia because f I was I'd have done worse things" but in a way that implies you think those would have been the correct things lmao.

And the bizarre thing is that it's the towniest thing about you.
you lot me here

lost*

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:28 am
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:27 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:25 am
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:23 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:20 am omg who has the most experience with you
i think ive played the most games with robyn, lc, and scotty? so i guess if thats the measure they would have the most experience with me
Okay which of those two would you give the task of solving you if all three would die if they got it wrong lol.
none of them
Then you die anyway. So you have to pick. It's an experiment so humour me.

robyn and lc, but this is an odd set-up;

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:28 am What a good wolf would do. Pocket Mac. Steer Mac into comfort on his bad reads. Vote lhf Serhal but in a way that doesn't risk the Rondo tie turning into a tie with a teaamate like Pyxxy. Not vote a teammate into a threatening position.

What a not good wolf would do. Pocket Mac. Throw it away to vote him despite having great positioning and no wolves feeling threatened. Vote Rondo after being green checked and outing yourself.

You are essentially saying "I'm not mafia because f I was I'd have done worse things" but in a way that implies you think those would have been the correct things lmao.

And the bizarre thing is that it's the towniest thing about you.

you lot me here

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:25 am
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:23 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:20 am omg who has the most experience with you
i think ive played the most games with robyn, lc, and scotty? so i guess if thats the measure they would have the most experience with me
Okay which of those two would you give the task of solving you if all three would die if they got it wrong lol.

none of them

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:23 am The things you are saying you would do as mafia a good wolf wouldn't have done because it would have outed you.

A good wolf wouldn't just pivot to vote Mac after pocketing him just because he has votes on him. Miselim occurred anyway.

A good wolf wouldn't vote out Rondo after he's green checked.

yeah, but i am not a good wolf, im a great one;

i mean a great wolf would have stayed quiet and would have let lc and rondo take the train and get the votes to elim you

a great wolf would have just not bothered, especially if all the lynch candidates were town

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:20 am omg who has the most experience with you

i think ive played the most games with robyn, lc, and scotty? so i guess if thats the measure they would have the most experience with me

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:05 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:00 am "I'd have just ridden along with a vote on you." - You'd been townreading me all game and didn't have to vote me cuz town died anyway.

"If I didn't want to save Rondo I'd have just voted him." - He was green checked and both counterwagons were townies anyway.

Like thats twice now you've defended yourself with "I'd have done this as mafia" wifom arguments when no competent social deduction player would do those things.

Which is partially why I'm curious about your skill level because if you were experienced you'd also know both those arguments are whack and not use them as a defense.

So it ultimately is a wash.

If I ask why you're towny I kind of think my only answer is "I'm not sure they would post this productively and be this dogged as mafia" which isn't a great argument so you should be solved by players who have more experience than you. Especially because you've been lock townreading me all game so my perspective would be manipulated to view you positively.
i could have casted a vote and left, i didnt have to be online and could have kept my vote on rondo and pretended i didnt see the green check

and thats rich coming from you, when your votes have all been for town blood, so its not like your playing any better

and im not your average competent social deduction player? like what does that even mean?

and okay if those are arguments are whack, even though they are truthful, idk what you want

a fabricated lie?

so next time i play with you, i should just scum read you because you think your town game play reads wolf?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:10 am I struggle to comprehend what you just said but I'm past the point of caring about getting into a back and forth with you. I've done my best to figure out your alignment but ultimately haven't been able to ergo the question of who should solve you.

I'm not sure which part of what I said was "rich coming from you" or how what I said just there has anything to do with the fact your explanations don't make sense cuz I don't feel you (being a competent social deduction player) would have done either of those things as mafia. It was a compliment.

Pretending not to see it so you could leave your vote on Rondo is a reasonable enough argument.

No I don't want a fabricated lie. Obviously. I just want patience while I try to figure out whether you're being deceptive or not.

* what things?

* would have done either of those things as mafia? explain please

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:15 am
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:14 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:11 am
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:07 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:01 am DM if you had to pick 2 players in this game to read you accurately like all 3 of your lives depended on it, which 2 would you pick. You have to provide an answer even if there aren't any good ones.
pyxxy and i guess tutuu, but idk if its bc theyre scum and they know im town, or they legit can spot/recognize my town play
As in there have been games where they correctly read you but it's happened when they've been both alignments?
well idk their alignments this time around, but previous games they both ended up w/ correct reads on me [pyxxy w/ me as mafia] & [tutuu eventually as town in severance, well this is murky bc jack vouched for me]

so this time around, they both townread me correctly from the bat

again, idk if its because they truly can recognize my town game or bc they are mafia and thus know who the townies are
Oh you're answering as though I'm asking you to tell me who is townreading you. I'm asking who should be able to based on past experience including this game.

well, idk how to answer that; who should be able to read me? i mean everyone should be able to develop a read on me; which players have read me correctly? are the ones i already mentioned

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:11 am
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:07 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:01 am DM if you had to pick 2 players in this game to read you accurately like all 3 of your lives depended on it, which 2 would you pick. You have to provide an answer even if there aren't any good ones.
pyxxy and i guess tutuu, but idk if its bc theyre scum and they know im town, or they legit can spot/recognize my town play
As in there have been games where they correctly read you but it's happened when they've been both alignments?

well idk their alignments this time around, but previous games they both ended up w/ correct reads on me [pyxxy w/ me as mafia] & [tutuu eventually as town in severance, well this is murky bc jack vouched for me]

so this time around, they both townread me correctly from the bat

again, idk if its because they truly can recognize my town game or bc they are mafia and thus know who the townies are

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:00 am "I'd have just ridden along with a vote on you." - You'd been townreading me all game and didn't have to vote me cuz town died anyway.

"If I didn't want to save Rondo I'd have just voted him." - He was green checked and both counterwagons were townies anyway.

Like thats twice now you've defended yourself with "I'd have done this as mafia" wifom arguments when no competent social deduction player would do those things.

Which is partially why I'm curious about your skill level because if you were experienced you'd also know both those arguments are whack and not use them as a defense.

So it ultimately is a wash.

If I ask why you're towny I kind of think my only answer is "I'm not sure they would post this productively and be this dogged as mafia" which isn't a great argument so you should be solved by players who have more experience than you. Especially because you've been lock townreading me all game so my perspective would be manipulated to view you positively.

well those players that have more experience than me, i seldomly see them deliver results so so much for 'experience'

maybe im just a natural, and a mafia prodigy

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:01 am DM if you had to pick 2 players in this game to read you accurately like all 3 of your lives depended on it, which 2 would you pick. You have to provide an answer even if there aren't any good ones.

pyxxy and i guess tutuu, but idk if its bc theyre scum and they know im town, or they legit can spot/recognize my town play

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:02 am @Scotty pls solve DM

if anyone has read me right at least 2/2 has been pyxxy

spotted me as wolf right away in timelines, and as town here early on

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:00 am "I'd have just ridden along with a vote on you." - You'd been townreading me all game and didn't have to vote me cuz town died anyway.

"If I didn't want to save Rondo I'd have just voted him." - He was green checked and both counterwagons were townies anyway.

Like thats twice now you've defended yourself with "I'd have done this as mafia" wifom arguments when no competent social deduction player would do those things.

Which is partially why I'm curious about your skill level because if you were experienced you'd also know both those arguments are whack and not use them as a defense.

So it ultimately is a wash.

If I ask why you're towny I kind of think my only answer is "I'm not sure they would post this productively and be this dogged as mafia" which isn't a great argument so you should be solved by players who have more experience than you. Especially because you've been lock townreading me all game so my perspective would be manipulated to view you positively.

i could have casted a vote and left, i didnt have to be online and could have kept my vote on rondo and pretended i didnt see the green check

and thats rich coming from you, when your votes have all been for town blood, so its not like your playing any better

and im not your average competent social deduction player? like what does that even mean?

and okay if those are arguments are whack, even though they are truthful, idk what you want

a fabricated lie?

so next time i play with you, i should just scum read you because you think your town game play reads wolf?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 12:42 am So inexperienced but intelligent enough and gamer enough to be deceptive in spite of it.

Sad, I was hopeful I could just clear you off your incredulousness lol.

well im 1/1 on mafia W here

but havent once as town and not strictly because of incorrect reads, but other players town reading wolves and then just sinking town bc of their resistance to consider they might be wrong

i mean, you can clear me bc ive extremely transparent with what ive done, and been wolf-hunting; as a wolf, i would have just taken a step back and let town self-destruct and just ridden along with a vote for you Mac when you lead the vote poll with like 3 votes

but then again my first town game here, I think i did pretty decent, same in ted lasso

whew

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 12:00 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 9:34 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 9:15 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 8:39 pm DM are you like a high quality wolf?
Ooh, like a five-star wolf?
I mean anyone can answer but it'd help my read if I knew where on the from Glorfindel to Golden rating scale I'm supposed to be approaching her.
DM just won as mafia with partner Wilgy in Timelines Mafia it you want to peruse that

Small sample size

yeah, final 5 w/ Epi, Long Con, Robyn & Dr. Wilgy and pulling out the Win for my first time being wolf and with my partner literally voting for me eveyday was chill

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 12:00 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 9:34 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 9:15 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 8:39 pm DM are you like a high quality wolf?
Ooh, like a five-star wolf?
I mean anyone can answer but it'd help my read if I knew where on the from Glorfindel to Golden rating scale I'm supposed to be approaching her.
DM just won as mafia with partner Wilgy in Timelines Mafia it you want to peruse that

Small sample size

I think i am better as town but being wolf is fun too

i just like mafia, its fun

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 9:15 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 8:39 pm DM are you like a high quality wolf?
Ooh, like a five-star wolf?

I am an all-around american bitch mafia player

town or wolf

what about you?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 8:25 pm
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 8:24 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 8:23 pm
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 12:05 pm I can live with a serhal/rondo tie

how did i know serhal was not civ? where exactly did he scream town? how can u be so obtuse
I am pointing out that you clearly didn't have the agenda to save Rondo. You didn't give a crap whether he died so trying to pass off your behaviour as having saved him is pretty wild.

if my agenda wasnt to save rondo, i would have voted them out. easy like 1+1 = 2

its so clear how if i wanted rondo gone, i wouldve done so

lmao anyone trying to spin it otherwise

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 8:25 pm
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 8:24 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 8:23 pm
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 12:05 pm I can live with a serhal/rondo tie

how did i know serhal was not civ? where exactly did he scream town? how can u be so obtuse
I am pointing out that you clearly didn't have the agenda to save Rondo. You didn't give a crap whether he died so trying to pass off your behaviour as having saved him is pretty wild.

rondo literally said he was fine with a tie, and if didnt give a crap, i would have voted rondo and gotten him eliminated so

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 8:24 pm
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 8:22 pm literally u said it yourself, i mistakenly encouraged all of your wrong reads, if i saw how that was turning out, why would i keep doing it
Okay so to be clear.

You didn't townread Pyxxy. You just thought Serhal was a better vote. You don't think Pyxxy is a guaranteed flip anyway and don't understand why I'm making such a fuss about it? That summarises your present thoughts?

yes

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 8:23 pm
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 8:19 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 8:17 pm
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 8:12 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 8:09 pm Yes, it might have been Rondo-trust that kept me on Serhal, now that he mentions it.
its fine for you to vote serhal over pyxxy, but I do it, and its like i was caught red-handed
mischaracterisation. LC was trying to save me and I asked for Serhal and was going to switch to just end the tie but it randed instead because we run out of time
and i wasnt trying to save you? hmm, if that were the case, i would have voted you
I didnt feel like you were trying to save me, there was no communication as such. Just movement.

movement is communication

?

if i wasnt trying to, i would have kept my vote on you; easy as that

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 8:23 pm
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 12:05 pm I can live with a serhal/rondo tie

how did i know serhal was not civ? where exactly did he scream town? how can u be so obtuse

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 8:21 pm
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 8:15 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 8:12 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 7:59 pm
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 7:48 pm confused why long con stayed w/ serhal vote and tying w/ rondo instead of switching to scotty?
It was kind of a frantic time, posting on my phone from the jobsite. I can't claim I was acting optimally at the time.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 7:55 pm
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 7:46 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 7:44 pm

why is Robyn on the outside looking in here?

and if Pyxxy is among your sharpest suspicions, why did you vote Serhal over them? Serhal being the definition of a shrug at best?
why would I list serhal when they already flipped town? obviously i felt serhal was wolfier then pyxxy, once i saw i was wrong, i changed my read... ?
Someone (not DM) explain to me how DM could have misunderstood my question in a way that results in them implying I asked them to list Serhal?
Perhaps they misread "vote" as "list"?
Is this the case DM?
i missed the post pre EoD were serhal was confirmed town and pyxxy the only other option who was apparently confirmed wolf

wheres the scrutinity for everyone else for not voting pyxxy
That's not my question. Did you misread my post?

sure

literally u said it yourself, i mistakenly encouraged all of your wrong reads, if i saw how that was turning out, why would i keep doing it

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