The Syndicate

nutella wrote: Part of me wants to follow Epi's request in case LC is in fact bad (and it would be nice if Epi actually does choose to side with town), but I'm too hesitant to rescind my town read of LC based on that. If Epi only thinks LC is bad because he caught the hole in the claim, that's bullshit, anyone as observant as LC could figure it out. Unless I missed something. I can be pretty dense with the complicated stuff. Maybe Epi can point me to why he thinks LC is bad?

What was the hole in the claim?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:

Long Con wrote:This is awesomely wack.

Is Epi's behavior consistent with neutral Epi? Or Epi trying to draw some scum voters into a trap?

This is a very poor question. I'm neutral right now. If I can draw Reapers into a trap, and it is successful, I have an incentive to side with the Alliance. Right now I have no reason to side with the Alliance, and if I draw the lynch, that's cool too, because you burn a lynch on me instead of a Reaper.

I fucking love this role.

You know that (supposedly). I don't know that.

If you're Geth, that's one thing. If you're the Illusive Man or the Thorian or Aria or Soverign, that's something entirely different. It's important to figure out which we're dealing with, here.

You know this, though. Sometimes, I feel like you dismissing legitimate lines of thinking as stupid because it would be easier for you if those lines of thinking were dismissed. Weakens your arguments, imo.

You know?

I know what I'm doing.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:

Long Con wrote:This is awesomely wack.

Is Epi's behavior consistent with neutral Epi? Or Epi trying to draw some scum voters into a trap?

This is a very poor question. I'm neutral right now. If I can draw Reapers into a trap, and it is successful, I have an incentive to side with the Alliance. Right now I have no reason to side with the Alliance, and if I draw the lynch, that's cool too, because you burn a lynch on me instead of a Reaper.

I fucking love this role.

Fredwood wrote:Fair enough...then you matter even less then.

Fredwood wrote:Lol actually no, you misread it.

You will become non-hostile to the side you choose...you still will be hostile to the alignments you don't choose. The underlined portion is saying that your existence won't determine the winner based on numbers. Basically you win with them but you don't have any affect on their win condition.

Please point to the wording of my role that says I will be hostile to alignments I don't choose. That makes no sense.

Fredwood wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Fredwood wrote:

Epignosis wrote:Here's a fun fact:

S~V~S tends to say I'm good when she's bad. She won't hesitate to go after me if she's good.

That's a trend. See Lost Again 3 that just finished up.

Frankly I really don't see the benefit of Civ going after you right now.

If you're telling the truth, Cerberus will eventually kill you. If you're lying or don't side with the other side, Reapers will know by the end of day 3 and will eventually kill you.

No they won't. Cerberus doesn't need me dead to win. My existence doesn't count against them. I am a Turf Wars Prisoner, a glorious thing to be: If they want me out because I am too uncomfortable, they will have to waste a Night kill on me.

Ditto the Reapers.

You would be a hostile independent...so yeah they would need you dead to win.

Hostile? Nope.

You will be able to win with the faction you choose and your win condition will align with theirs. You will not be counted among their numbers though for the purposes of deciding the game.

That makes me non-hostile. I simply choose which side I think is going to win.

Long Con wrote:

Fredwood wrote:

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:

Fredwood wrote:Though likely Jack just hasn't caught up to your plot twist yet.

I'm caught up but I admit, I kinda skimmed Epi's long thing where he explained that being immune to non lethal actions means you don't avoid kills.

What did I miss?

He's claiming Geth now. Who can side with Reaper or Civ after 3rd day. He's not immune to a NK he's saying that he thinks Mafia targeted him last night and failed their night kill, because supposedly they targeted him. Then tried to push to lynch him because they thought he was the don of the other mafia and are trying to get him lynched because it will buy them cred. He's then saying the mafia knows the Vega claim is BS because Vega doesn't avoid lethal actions.

In the end, I think he's saying lynch Long Con or I'll side with the Reapers. I am just an extra fragile human after all so I probably missed something.

Is that accurate, Epi?

You can read.

Fredwood wrote:

Epignosis wrote:Here's a fun fact:

S~V~S tends to say I'm good when she's bad. She won't hesitate to go after me if she's good.

That's a trend. See Lost Again 3 that just finished up.

Frankly I really don't see the benefit of Civ going after you right now.

If you're telling the truth, Cerberus will eventually kill you. If you're lying or don't side with the other side, Reapers will know by the end of day 3 and will eventually kill you.

No they won't. Cerberus doesn't need me dead to win. My existence doesn't count against them. I am a Turf Wars Prisoner, a glorious thing to be: If they want me out because I am too uncomfortable, they will have to waste a Night kill on me.

Ditto the Reapers.

Fredwood wrote:

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:

Fredwood wrote:Though likely Jack just hasn't caught up to your plot twist yet.

I'm caught up but I admit, I kinda skimmed Epi's long thing where he explained that being immune to non lethal actions means you don't avoid kills.

What did I miss?

He's claiming Geth now. Who can side with Reaper or Civ after 3rd day. He's not immune to a NK he's saying that he thinks Mafia targeted him last night and failed their night kill, because supposedly they targeted him. Then tried to push to lynch him because they thought he was the don of the other mafia and are trying to get him lynched because it will buy them cred. He's then saying the mafia knows the Vega claim is BS because Vega doesn't avoid lethal actions.

In the end, I think he's saying lynch Long Con or I'll side with the Reapers. I am just an extra fragile human after all so I probably missed something.

I'm not telling anybody what to do. I played my gambit, and now people can see the results. I don't think I would have gotten the mileage I got had someone not blocked me and no kill happened.

That is a perfect storm of circumstances for civilians to make a play. I want civilians to have that opportunity.

Here's a fun fact:

S~V~S tends to say I'm good when she's bad. She won't hesitate to go after me if she's good.

That's a trend. See Lost Again 3 that just finished up.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: I think Epi is good.

I'm a toaster.

DrWilgy wrote:There being role claiming and info dumping allowed means USE that mechanic to the best of it's ability.

You mean like this?

I am not James Vega. I lied.

I am the fucking Terminator.

I am Zodac, the Cosmic Enforcer.

I am the God of Cylons.

I have no allegiance to anybody...yet.

Tuck and roll bitches? Please. I am metal. I don't tuck or roll.

I am here to judge. And dissipate.

There was no second kill Night 1. So you say. I don't agree. It's likely I was the target and dissipated it. Ironically, instead of being worshiped like the mechanical god I am, people voted for me.

I like that.

Can you imagine why?

James Vega does not exist, for he is not in the database. I falsely claimed to be him, knowing that if someone tried to kill me, that team would know I was lying about "tuck and roll."

Tuck and roll - You will be immune to all non-lethal night actions this night.

That says non-lethal. I should be dead if a team tried to take me out.

But I'm not dead.

What a shame. You know what else is a shame?

Humans.

Humans exhibit qualities of anger and revenge. It's sad really, but I am using that to my advantage: If anyone from the team that tried to kill me knew I was lying, they probably suspected I was on the other team. They may have believed I am Soverign or the Illusive Man, for instance, who survives the first kill against him.

To put it in the simplest terms:

If someone tried to kill me, that team knows I lied when I said "Tuck and roll bitches." They know my "claim" was fake. Votes against me then, are attempts to gain credibility by lynching mafia, but I'm not mafia.

Long Con's reaction to my initial Vega claim (and being nervous ) makes me most suspicious of him. He didn't vote for me until after I claimed (I didn't claim ). He wants to lynch me so he can get credit for lynching mafia...only I'm not mafia.

I'm machine.

Tuck and roll bitches.

My initial plan was to withhold all this until exactly one hour before the end of the Day. Instead I think it's best that I'm giving the civilians a chance to actually do something right. If you don't, oh well, but it doesn't concern me. I don't care if I get lynched, because if I do, I can be aligned with the Reapers and that fucks you out of a lynch against them, thereby improving my own chance to win. I'm telling you this now so that you, Alliance people, get your heads out of your asses and make me want to align with you. The downside is that I probably kept one of you alive last Night by absorbing the Night kill target and now I cannot repeat the procedure because I will not be targeted. Oh well. I don't like the bad logic I've seen today. Do better.

Right now my projections currently predict the civilians getting positively hosed.

You have the opportunity to change that.

The question is

C:\WILLYOU>_

Immortal_Raven wrote:

S~V~S wrote:Who defines what constitutes the "main discussion"?

And we don't typically claim if we can avoid it.

I define it as to what I perceive. Feel free to disagree. Apparently, that's what mafia games are about.

And Epig, different strokes. You don't know my play preferences and I don't know yours. Not claiming under pressure is a trigger for me. It may not be for you and sprityo makes a good point about not claiming willy nilly. However, you were front and center with the votes on you. It was shit or get off the pot time in my mind.

People saying "trigger" is a trigger for me.

I am not worried about shitting or getting off the pot.

You see, new folk, I know exactly what I'm doing.

Add Dys to the people voting for me.

This will all make sense later.

Immortal_Raven wrote:2. I still don't like Epignosis but that's because I hate time-wasting. If you have pressure, best to claim and help the town move to a better lynch candidate.

Is that really what's best?

I hate time-wasting too. We have something in common.

Sometimes though...time really isn't wasted. Maybe doing nothing for a while is the best thing to do.

People who have voted for me so far.

gfishfunk
CaptainNifty
Adam
Long Con

Long Con wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:LC, even if Epi is playing off. When has he ever gone bus route by default?

Two things.

First, I'm surprised LC suggested that. In my opinion, throwing a teammate under the bus in a two-mafia setup has a negative expected value. I don't practice that.

Second, people somehow think I'm some eager, crafty bus guy, when in reality, in all the Mafia games I have played as evil, I have intentionally thrown a teammate under the bus one time, and it was only out of the novelty of having never done it before. In Turf Wars I had to keep reminding my team that their job was to get civilians lynched, not each other.

I didn't say Epignosis is bussing anyone. Epi is the one getting bussed.

Epignosis wrote:And I'm not nervous, so I don't know why you keep bringing that up. The only time I get nervous in Mafia is near endgame, and this ain't endgame. I don't care if I get lynched because I like it when people think they have me figured out when in reality they don't know jack.

I see - when you are Civ, you don't mind getting lynched because you enjoy people being wrong about you. I get that, completely.

But, if you enjoy smugly making your voters wrong by letting them mislynch you... then why did you roleclaim?

Vote Epignosis

I try to be polite and accommodating to our newer friends.

gfishfunk wrote:

Dom wrote:gfish when did you change your vote?


jack-- wh ywon't you play ball with me?

Some time after Lon Con posted a claim on Epi's behalf, but not right away. I said I was going to, then forgot and got caught up in other stuff. I moved it to jackofhearts. MOstly for lack of somewhere else to put it, but I really should have gone after Jack instead last night anyways instead of Epi.

@Adam/Nifty, Etc. -- Raven is active enough now to post on a forum from his computer. He managed to go an hour and a half in a D&D session online with me before needing a break. He might however be working slowly at work due to recovery, or might not have access to this site at work.

I am seeing a lot of our aggression this phase as a result of different styles. I am going to make a conscious effort to try and approach things from a syndicate perspective.....

.....so how does one do that?

Lynch llama Day 1.

So far so good.

Of my three voters, I regard fishfunk to be the most sincere and civilian. I'm giving him shit and he's giving it right back. I respect that. I think he's doing what he thinks is right (even if I don't agree with his methodology), but I value the effort and it looks genuine to me. I regarded him a civilian Day 1, and that hasn't changed here in Day 2.

Adam has a sense of equanimity about him that I ordinarily associate with mafia, but outside of that, I am not suspicious of him at this time.

CaptainNifty strikes me as the most disingenuous of my three voters. He hopped on board and went out of his way to remind me people were putting pressure on me (like I'm new at this or something and don't get what's going on), but he stated it in the form of a threat. "Maybe you need more votes to get you talking." That's a subtle invitation for people to park there votes on me and potentially leave them there (I've seen it happen many times). He called something I said "ridiculously weak," but what I said wasn't an argument. It was a fact, one LC basically confirmed, not an argument. Rather than investigate to see if what I said about myself was true, Nifty dismissed it.

Addendum: I see people are moving their votes, but I'm commenting anyway.

DrWilgy wrote:LC, even if Epi is playing off. When has he ever gone bus route by default?

Two things.

First, I'm surprised LC suggested that. In my opinion, throwing a teammate under the bus in a two-mafia setup has a negative expected value. I don't practice that.

Second, people somehow think I'm some eager, crafty bus guy, when in reality, in all the Mafia games I have played as evil, I have intentionally thrown a teammate under the bus one time, and it was only out of the novelty of having never done it before. In Turf Wars I had to keep reminding my team that their job was to get civilians lynched, not each other.

gfishfunk wrote:

gfishfunk wrote:

Epignosis wrote:You don't know what tends to happen because you've never before participated here. This is a brand new dynamic.

Are you forget we have TWO mods, one bringing the Realms style and one bringing the syndicate style?

If your argument is that I am too new to understand, I don't really care. If your argument is that you win tons and you mod all the time and you are the biggest dog in yard, I don't really care either.

Three questions:

1. What is your role from the list at the beginning?

2. What benefit does fake claiming bring the town?

3. What benefit does fake claiming bring you in particular?

4. How is my refusal to accommodate your playstyle worse than your refusal to accomidate my "playstyle"? (Don't worry, I remembered to include your quotes for you. I'm helpful.)

Questions 2 and 3 should be hint claiming. I guess I subconsciously switched those out on your behalf. New question list for you (tidied up):

Four questions:

1. What is your role from the list at the beginning of the thread?

2. What benefit does hint claiming bring the town?

3. What benefit does hint claiming bring you in particular?

4. How is my refusal to accommodate your playstyle worse than your refusal to accomidate my "playstyle"? (Don't worry, I remembered to include your quotes for you. I'm helpful.)

I didn't say anything about you being new. I said you don't have any data to claim what tends to happen. That's true of everyone.

1. No.

2. None, apparently, because you and your gang want to lynch me anyway. That's fine.

3. It amuses me. If you find it inherently suspicious, oh well. I don't think claiming at all is useful in this setup except to help the killers make more strategic kills.

4. I don't have a "playstyle." I do as I please.

Long Con wrote:

gfishfunk wrote:

Long Con wrote:This is getting too interesting.

How so?

And yes, I'm pretty dense at times.

Epi getting nervous and roleclaiming is not something I'd expect him to do as a Civ on his lonesome. I think his roleclaim was uncharacteristic and influenced by Realms members of his team. And then you Freudian Slip "fakeclaim" in there, and then deny that you know anything about a claim at all. It looks really awkward and I believe that's because the Freudian Slip was kind of a Mafia slip.

I never claimed anything.

And I'm not nervous, so I don't know why you keep bringing that up. The only time I get nervous in Mafia is near endgame, and this ain't endgame. I don't care if I get lynched because I like it when people think they have me figured out when in reality they don't know jack.

gfishfunk wrote:

Epignosis wrote:You guys act like I care about your little "pressure votes." It's cute. I have no intention to vote to save myself if it comes to that. If you want my lynch, you will have it, and you will have to deal with two poor lynches in a row.

You know what else is cute? That some think you can figure out who is bad by getting people to claim. That isn't going to work. Know how come?

There are eleven civilians. There are twenty-three civilian roles listed. There are six mafia and two independents.

Twenty-three minus eleven leaves twelve. That's twelve roles to spare, and I bet you they're not sitting there just for show. So if your game plan is to make people claim and then see who counterclaims, you're doing it wrong. There won't be any counterclaiming.

Spoken like scum without a fake claim.

If you hinted at it, and some people get it, why not just claim? Hint claims are terrible. Scum tends to get hint claims because they have more people between them. Even if two of four do not get it, the other two do. Whereas if a townie doesn't get it, the townie doesn't get it. By aggregate, town hint claims help the mafia rather than the town.

Furthermore, mafia hint claims allow flexibility. You can always just say you were hinting something else or that you didn't get your point across or whatever. The flexibility also helps scum.

You don't know what tends to happen because you've never before participated here. This is a brand new dynamic.

You guys act like I care about your little "pressure votes." It's cute. I have no intention to vote to save myself if it comes to that. If you want my lynch, you will have it, and you will have to deal with two poor lynches in a row.

You know what else is cute? That some think you can figure out who is bad by getting people to claim. That isn't going to work. Know how come?

There are eleven civilians. There are twenty-three civilian roles listed. There are six mafia and two independents.

Twenty-three minus eleven leaves twelve. That's twelve roles to spare, and I bet you they're not sitting there just for show. So if your game plan is to make people claim and then see who counterclaims, you're doing it wrong. There won't be any counterclaiming.

Long Con wrote:I know I know!

Only one winner?

I have to leave for forty minutes. See if you can work out my role.

Time starts...now.

gfishfunk wrote:

Epignosis wrote:If you decide your best course of action is to lynch me because you blocked me, oh well. I can't convince you or your gang otherwise if that's how you function. You should note that the only people voting me are people who have zero experience with me. So when I get lynched, and you learn that you didn't block a killer, do me the favor of doing some deeper thinking than what you're doing right now.

I would start with the people who missed the vote.

Its actually more indicative of the Realms than it is of you: in the Realms this is a good strategy to force someone to claim a role and powers. Failure to claim role and powers (which are the same here I guess) is a reason to lynch. These are all pressure votes.

It has zero to do with the fact that they haven't played with you and everything to do with how we respond to an info drop.

Care to claim role?

You're not real perceptive.

gfishfunk wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:Were you that confident in your read of Epi? That was the important one.

Confident enough to use it. I wanted to interact with someone outside the realms. His posts right around end phase struck me as someone happy with the lynch and happy to not have his name attached. You can disagree with the read or with my ability to analyze, but its what I did.

I seemed happy?

Holy shit.

gfishfunk wrote:

Epignosis wrote:There were eight mafia divided into two teams. Nineteen people missed the Day 1 vote. Eight people failed to send in a kill Night 1.

Eight damn people.

Y'all go on and marinate on that for a minute.

Thats actually pretty hilarious. And it boggles the mind.

Doesn't it?

I've hosted on this site more than anybody else, and I've seen some strange shit, but that right there I think takes the cake. And I've seen mafia teams forget to submit their kills more than once.

If you decide your best course of action is to lynch me because you blocked me, oh well. I can't convince you or your gang otherwise if that's how you function. You should note that the only people voting me are people who have zero experience with me. So when I get lynched, and you learn that you didn't block a killer, do me the favor of doing some deeper thinking than what you're doing right now.

I would start with the people who missed the vote.

gfishfunk wrote:

Epignosis wrote:Romance of the Three Kingdoms Day 1:

Epignosis wrote:Half of the field missed the vote. Nineteen people.

Romance of the Three Kingdoms Night 1:

Epignosis wrote:

Day 2: The Farmers of Hsiaop’ei are Troubled

雞和山羊

The death of Ahuinan, Meng Huo’s third ravine chief of Nanzhong, resulted in a series of misfortune for the farmers of Hsiaop’ei, because it was reported that Ahuinan was cut down in the vicinity of Hsiaop’ei. The misfortune happened all in one night. A band of distraught farmers sought the advice of one of the elders in that region, a learned man who had fathered seven sons and outlived all of them.

The first farmer approached holding a dead rooster. “Armed men came and slaughtered our chickens. They left behind feathers that do not belong to any of our animals.”

A second man came forward and produced the head of a goat. “Armed men came and slaughtered our goats. They left behind yellow cloth, which we do not wear.”

“This is a good omen,” observed the sage.

“How can you say this a good omen?” asked one of the men of Hsiaop’ei.

“Consider that both the barbarians of the south and the mystical rebels have visited your people in the span of the same night, and all of them are accounted for.”

No one has been killed. It is now Day 2. You have 48 hours and two votes each to decide who will be in the second duel.

What happened there?

My guess: Epignosis was just diligent enough to find the post, just lazy enough not to do the analysis, and just cokcy enough to refer to a game that at least half the players had not played and present it like damning evidence?

Just a hunch though. I have enough on my plate reading through this game without having to read through a dozen others or so. Make a point. Or don't.

There were eight mafia divided into two teams. Nineteen people missed the Day 1 vote. Eight people failed to send in a kill Night 1.

Eight damn people.

Y'all go on and marinate on that for a minute.

gfishfunk wrote:

Epignosis wrote:Here's something to chew on:

If I am bad and on a team, I'm usually not going to be the one carrying out the kill. Can you guess why?

But y'all go ahead with yay role blocks if you want to. Civilians are fucked if that's the operating procedure.

Not having played with you, I wouldn't know. At the same time, that is a great way to justify giving you the kill as a member of a mafia team: if everyone assumes you wouldn't be given the kill, give him the kill.

You demonstrated my point. It's not just you: Half the field wouldn't know about me or my tendencies. No way in hell I'm carrying out the kill if I'm bad.

Romance of the Three Kingdoms Day 1:

Epignosis wrote:Half of the field missed the vote. Nineteen people.

Romance of the Three Kingdoms Night 1:

Epignosis wrote:

Day 2: The Farmers of Hsiaop’ei are Troubled

雞和山羊

The death of Ahuinan, Meng Huo’s third ravine chief of Nanzhong, resulted in a series of misfortune for the farmers of Hsiaop’ei, because it was reported that Ahuinan was cut down in the vicinity of Hsiaop’ei. The misfortune happened all in one night. A band of distraught farmers sought the advice of one of the elders in that region, a learned man who had fathered seven sons and outlived all of them.

The first farmer approached holding a dead rooster. “Armed men came and slaughtered our chickens. They left behind feathers that do not belong to any of our animals.”

A second man came forward and produced the head of a goat. “Armed men came and slaughtered our goats. They left behind yellow cloth, which we do not wear.”

“This is a good omen,” observed the sage.

“How can you say this a good omen?” asked one of the men of Hsiaop’ei.

“Consider that both the barbarians of the south and the mystical rebels have visited your people in the span of the same night, and all of them are accounted for.”

No one has been killed. It is now Day 2. You have 48 hours and two votes each to decide who will be in the second duel.

What happened there?

Damn LC.

Here's something to chew on:

If I am bad and on a team, I'm usually not going to be the one carrying out the kill. Can you guess why?

But y'all go ahead with yay role blocks if you want to. Civilians are fucked if that's the operating procedure.

DrWilgy wrote: I'm confident that we are seeing his bullshit civ game. While it is bullshit, it's civ.

Thanks.

Long Con wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Long Con wrote:

Epignosis wrote:Tuck and roll bitches.

You worried?

About?

Falling from the second storey maybe? Getting thrown from a horse? Or that you'll be lynched over this roleblock thingy?

Worried? Not at all, but I will lose my shit if I'm lynched because someone role blocked me and the kill was missed.

That's elementary-level analysis. In a set-up that involves a dead protector, a living blocker, and a killer, and that's it, okay fine. You got me. Them's the breaks.

In this? Not straightforward at all. I don't fault fish for realizing he has a clue, but I do think it's lazy if he lynches me. I didn't try to kill anybody, so fish's block is irrelevant, and was sadly wasted.

For those who experienced it, does RotTK N1 mean anything?

Long Con wrote:

Epignosis wrote:Tuck and roll bitches.

You worried?

About?

Tuck and roll bitches.

gfishfunk wrote:

Epignosis wrote:So you immediately rely on circumstantial evidence. When a third of the population missed the vote.

Forgive me if I too do not think highly of your "playstyle."

Neat use of quotes.

You were posting actively up through the end of the phase so I targeted you. Its circumstantial -- like all other evidence in mafia. I blocked you, we are missing a kill. Is that really your response? Deflect and insult the person that revealed information and is trying to provoke discussion?

Hello. I'm Epignosis.

gfishfunk wrote:

S~V~S wrote:

gfishfunk wrote:Right now, my topic scum pick is Epignosis for a simple reason.

Epi was pinging some of the syndicate and did not vote. I targeted Epi with a role block. Only one kill occurred last night, and there should have been two (see the roles in he beginning). With no doctor and no bodyguard, the lack of a kill is indicative of a role block.

Quite the leap there. Alenko, Legion, either could have been at play, not to mention all the roles with once or twice powers.

That's even if the second killer or any of those roles are in the game.

It is just as possible that the killer did not send his/her PM if in the game. And Wrex is the actual bodyguard. Bob's role was a non lethal protection role.

It is certainly possible, but it is one possibility amongst many.

This is standard practice at the realms: expecting two kills and one doesn't go through? Especially if the doctor is known to be dead? You immediately go to the blocked targets.

Its cool if you don't jump to that same conclusion, but the outright dismissal of playstyles is frankly getting old.

So you immediately rely on circumstantial evidence. When a third of the population missed the vote.

Forgive me if I too do not think highly of your "playstyle."

Long Con wrote: Epi, did you get roleblocked last night? Did you try to target anyone?

If I was blocked, I was not informed. But it wouldn't have mattered.

I targeted myself, in a manner of speaking.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

gfishfunk wrote:Right now, my topic scum pick is Epignosis for a simple reason.

Epi was pinging some of the syndicate and did not vote. I targeted Epi with a role block. Only one kill occurred last night, and there should have been two (see the roles in he beginning). With no doctor and no bodyguard, the lack of a kill is indicative of a role block.

I did not vote?

I did not vote, yet I tried to kill someone.

This guy.

*puts on devil's advocate hat again*

So as long as one doesn't vote, they can't be scum, right?

You are obtuse.

My point was that I voted. Your fishy friend is unobservant. He implied he blocked me because I didn't vote. I did vote. That means he isn't paying attention.

What does a gfunkfish not paying attention mean?

Epignosis wrote:

gfishfunk wrote:Right now, my topic scum pick is Epignosis for a simple reason.

Epi was pinging some of the syndicate and did not vote. I targeted Epi with a role block. Only one kill occurred last night, and there should have been two (see the roles in he beginning). With no doctor and no bodyguard, the lack of a kill is indicative of a role block.

I did not vote?

I did not vote, yet I tried to kill someone.

This guy.

gfishfunk wrote:Right now, my topic scum pick is Epignosis for a simple reason.

Epi was pinging some of the syndicate and did not vote. I targeted Epi with a role block. Only one kill occurred last night, and there should have been two (see the roles in he beginning). With no doctor and no bodyguard, the lack of a kill is indicative of a role block.

I did not vote?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:
@Epi


Why you so quiet? Who is your top Realms suspect?

Does it bother you...that I'm quiet?

Does your question mean I have to...believe any of these "Realm" people are bad when it could be that all evildoers are Syndicate?

DrWilgy wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:Epi saying he wouldn't kill Eloh (his wife, who he thinks he can pocket)

I don't think.

Epi, who do you think is bad and one of thier teammates?

I don't think anyone is bad.

Nobody has teammates.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:Epi saying he wouldn't kill Eloh (his wife, who he thinks he can pocket)

I don't think.

nutella wrote: Epi is most definitely not his normal self this game and I don't know what to think of it. At least Dom is back and doing the Dom thing.

Fredwood wrote:

Silver Lantern wrote:BTW, April 4th is my B-day so if you're thinking of killing me or lynching me, at least wait till April 5...

Blocks and MDs are welcomed fwiw...

BTW My birthday is April 8th so if you're thinking of killing me or lynching me, at least wait til April 8th.

Mine is in August.

Dom wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Dom wrote:

gfishfunk wrote:Here is an idea. (I post them as I think of them)

Post ONE player you think is likely town. Very simple. If you say yourself, I vote for you.

mine: colonialbob.

Epignosis

You surprise me.

why

You need a reason why I am surprised you think I'm good?

Ooookay mate.

Dom wrote:

gfishfunk wrote:Here is an idea. (I post them as I think of them)

Post ONE player you think is likely town. Very simple. If you say yourself, I vote for you.

mine: colonialbob.

Epignosis

You surprise me.

Long Con wrote:

Epignosis wrote:There are two mafia teams- not one. Try again. El LC.

Is that your big "A-HA!" moment? I don't want to miss it if that was it.

No. My big aha moment will come later.