The Syndicate

And guess what? I'm going to lay low tomorrow.

I am in charge of an entire church service. Music, announcements, sermon! I'm doing it all. So you probably won't see me much tomorrow either.

I'm laying low. I volunteered to do all this to keep my bad role a secret.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2017 11:55 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2017 11:51 pm Hey Epi, is LC your baddie teammate?
I wish!
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2017 11:48 pm I am done interacting with LC. If people think he's got me pegged, they're fools. Other shit to do besides engage with someone who has never gotten me right a single time in the history of mafia.
The Epi doth protest too much, methinks!

And I got you exactly right in Mass Effect. We can debate the various alignments that we both could have been considered as, but that does not change the fact that you did exactly what I said you were going to do all along. I'll drop the mic on that shit right here.

Nope. I will fight you forever.

I was a guy who could pick his alignment.

You didn't get me exactly anything because I hadn't chosen a side, and I didn't do exactly what you said I would do. You said I would side with the Reapers and pretend to be a civilian. In fact, I sided with the Reapers and blatantly told everyone I sided with the Reapers.

You are so full of yourself thinking you got one over on me when you didn't.

But you say whatever you need to say to make people think you have my number.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2017 11:54 pm Personally I think one or two of my posts in this game have been the funniest on the site period.

Nobody cares.

Quin wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2017 11:51 pm Hey Epi, is LC your baddie teammate?

Kiss my ass.

I am done interacting with LC. If people think he's got me pegged, they're fools. Other shit to do besides engage with someone who has never gotten me right a single time in the history of mafia.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2017 11:32 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2017 11:27 pm So far, every single time Long Con has come against me, he was evil.
Like when?

Every single time.

So far, every single time Long Con has come against me, he was evil.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2017 10:43 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2017 10:27 pm Long Con- Can you think of one instance in which you were good and you called me out for being bad?
Mass Effect. Since I was playing with a genuine desire to hunt baddies, there was literally no difference between that, and my Civvie game.

I asked for a time when you were good. You weren't good in Mass Effect. I don't care what your genuine desire was.

Long Con- Can you think of one instance in which you were good and you called me out for being bad?

I fail to see how this is a Mafia game. I don't know what I'm going or what I'm looking for. Thanks INH.

It solidifies my suspicion of LC. If I don't know what I'm looking for, he sure as hell doesn't.

I see no reason.

Why did Dyslexicon vote G-Man?

timmer wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2017 4:10 pm Some questions...

@Epig, I just iso'd your posts for the word nutella, and read through them. Am I correct that your stance on nutella essentially boils down to the use of the word pushing? Have the more recent posts bolstered this in your eyes, or are things roughly the same?

That's right. I look for little things. My problem is that she gets away with little things frequently, and she cruises to endgame when evil because nobody calls her out on them.

timmer wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2017 4:10 pm Have the more recent posts bolstered this in your eyes, or are things roughly the same?

I voted nutella mostly because I was dissatisfied that someone could read the pulp fiction Long Con wrote and call it "fascinating" and then vote for me. I voted out of frustration, realized this, and moved my vote.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2017 3:24 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2017 3:23 pm I'm going to play Mega Man 3.
Original NES? You know the second-controller superjump trick?

On the Wii. I promised my kids I would play through the Mega Man series this summer. They think I'm a master. The problem is those Wii controllers kill my hands.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2017 4:48 pm Anyway, I'm going to work. An Epignosis vote is one of the best votes you can do, it sucks to see self-voters and careless voters ruling the roost. Good luck!

Comma splice.

I'm going to play Mega Man 3.

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2017 3:06 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2017 3:03 pm I moved my vote to Dyslexicon.
Why?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2017 2:00 pm I already suspected Dyslexicon and nothing has changed. Removing that role saves INH from having to find a replacement too, so bonus.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2017 3:03 pm
Epignosis wrote:Your treatment of me reminds me of Mass Effect when a) you weren't a civilian

Epignosis wrote:That's very compelling evidence against me.

Except I was not bad in Mass Effect. I was a neutral independent
A neutral independent is also not a civilian.

I had the option to align with the civilians. I was neutral at the time. Regardless, no one ever needed me dead to win.

I moved my vote to Dyslexicon.

nutella thinks she shouldn't have any attention on her.

Lynch me then. It's not like I've had time to devote to this anyway.

Either way, it's all amusing to me. If I get lynched, then one of two things will happen. Either people wise up and lynch Long Con, or Long Con (if he is good) will discover he never knows what he's talking about when it comes to me.

Although what is more likely to happen is that next time LC will congratulate himself for calling me out in Blue Velvet as bad and nervous.

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2017 2:37 pm I'm not "falling" for any "bullshit." I recognize that he was incorrect about a couple things from Mass Effect here, but even when discrediting the flawed parts of his argument I found myself agreeing with many of the points he was making against you.

And I already explained the pushing thing. I did not mean to imply that much agency, but you are in a way partially responsible for my decision not to vote for him because a post that you made affected my thought process.

1. He says I was bad when he called me out for being bad.

2. He says I was nervous Day 2.

3. He says I was "phoning it in."

4. He says rolling eyes are indicative of being evil.

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2017 2:28 pm You have not once given a single reason for suspecting me. I don't ever want to play with you again if you continue to do this. It's insulting.

I can't believe that you would fall for Long Con's bullshit. He made up stuff in Mass Effect about me and he's making it up now. That's why.

"Pushing" is a word that makes it look like I'm responsible for your actions regarding Ricochet. I'm not. That's another reason why.

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2017 2:27 pm Care to explain your vote?

No.

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2017 2:19 pm Ooo LC's case on Epi is fascinating. I'm a little hesitant to buy into the "tells" from Mass Effect as he was indeed an independent rather than a mafia, but his response has been largely inadequate imo, especially with regards to the "phoning it in"/narrow focus accusation. I don't understand how that one tiny inconsequential response/request for clarification to me, which I didn't even feel merited a response let alone constituted any expression of suspicion, counts as an original contribution. It seems to be just some confusion on my wording, which for what it's worth I'll answer now since he does appear to be taking it rather seriously: I merely meant, Epi, that your post (about considering whether Rico's behavior actually indicated alignment) caused me to take a step back and reconsider that point/whether I should actually vote for him or not. I suppose "pushing" was not really the best word; I didn't really mean to imply heavy agency on your part (though no doubt there was some intent in your post to have the effect it successfully had on me) or that you were putting pressure on me specifically. I just meant to convey my thought process regarding the Rico situation and how you affected it, but I didn't use the most precise language.

Anyway, putting a vote on Epi for now. Really not getting good vibes from his responses to LC or from all the eye-rolling.

"Fascinating."

People amaze me.

nutella

I just read through Long Con's posts. Unless I missed one, I am the only person LC has named as a suspect. Nice job criticizing me for only accusing one person.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2017 1:12 pm Epi, whom do you suspect as the day draws closer to ending? A couple of cases have been floated around, so I'd like to get a sense of where you stand on at least some of them. Or, if you have some insight on a different suspicion that would be cool too.

At this stage, I would be comfortable with lynching nutella, LC, or Dyslexicon.

I want to hear from nutella first.

I won't vote for LC, mind you, because I told him I would not, and unlike him, I'm going to go back on what we agreed just because he thinks the agreement was invalid. But if other people want to lynch him, knock yourselves out. He's doing the same stuff he did when he was an evil independent in Mass Effect.

I already suspected Dyslexicon and nothing has changed. Removing that role saves INH from having to find a replacement too, so bonus.

I am less enthusiastic about lynching Ricochet. If he's bad, and you lynch him, that's great, but it's more of a good guess. For example, I appreciated his point about S~V~S doing what she did to solidify credibility. The same notion crossed my mind, but it's not a notion I agree with. Still, I like that he wasn't afraid to express the thought when, if he were bad, the simplest thing to do would be to kill S~V~S and be done with it.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2017 1:50 pm
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Long Con wrote:Epignosis. You have pretty much only focused on Dyslexicon as a suspicion. How does Dizzy's imminent replacement affect your opinion, and who else do you think is bad?

Epi wrote:False

Long Con wrote: And now, instead of giving some player opinions like I asked, you're trying to steer the conversation away from that.

Epi, shortly before quoting the post when LC initially asked him for his thoughts on players wrote: I'm sorry- where did you ask me to give "some player opinions" until just now?

Maybe this post is accusing Dyslexicon and defending Ricochet. LINK

Long Con wrote:Come on, man, that's your proof that you've done other things this game? Like I said. Phoning it in.

Epignosis wrote:Where did I say this was proof that I've been busy? Jesus dude.

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I've placed the above quotes/snippets in spoiler tags in case this post gets too long as a result.

Blue Points: Long Con suggests Epi's only contributions to the game so far have been to focus on Dyslexicon, which Epi refutes ("False.") As proof, Epi offers up a post of his where he asks Nutella to clarify what she meant by "pushing" in regards to the Ricochet/PopTart thing. Long Con doesn't think this is sufficient proof that Epi has done more than accuse Dyslexicon in the game so far. Epi Conflates this (intentionally?) with the idea that, in real life, he's been busy.

Orange Points: LC asks Epi who else he thinks is bad. After he gets no response to this question, he accuses LC of steering away from that particular discussion to avoid having to answer. Epi responds by saying that was the first time LC ever asked him for his thoughts on players, and then quotes a post which contains the original question ("and who else do you think is bad?")

Nah, I was posting in a hurry and misread it.

As of Day 2, Long Con, you were wrong about me. You are making stuff up. I chose to join the bad team after Day 3. By Day 2, when you kept calling me nervous, I hadn't made up my mind, and had no reason to be nervous. I would have joined the civilians had one more Reaper been lynched by Day 3. It is inaccurate to say you were right about me on Day 2, because I hadn't yet chosen a side.

I don't see how I phoned in Mass Effect unless you mean after Day 3 when I had chosen the Reapers and had fun channeling my inner SHODAN. If that's the parallel you are drawing, then I don't know what to tell you. During Day 2, I was playing my ass off.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2017 11:46 am Also, this is so WEEEEEEEAAAK that you should be ashamed to even try it.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2017 10:06 am
Maybe this post is accusing Dyslexicon and defending Ricochet.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Jun 16, 2017 9:09 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Fri Jun 16, 2017 8:31 pm @Dys hope everything's ok

I'm sorta tempted to vote for Rico because I'm pretty damn sick of the annoyingness, but Epi's pushing me to reconsider since I don't really think Rico necessarily looks like/is behaving like a baddie. Like, he could be "hiding behind" the singsong bullshit and the no-u pattern, but I don't have a particularly strong reason to think that. But the more he's getting pushed on it and remaining stubborn, the more I'm doubting his innocence... idk. WIFOM and all that jazz. If I can't make up my mind on Rico I might join DH in voting for G-Man -- the points there don't feel like much but it's more than I have on anyone else.
I'm "pushing" you?

Come on, man, that's your proof that you've done other things this game? Like I said. Phoning it in.

Where did I say this was proof that I've been busy? Jesus dude.

It was a question I asked nutella, one in which I am still awaiting a response, because she used a much stronger verb than I would have expected given I only ask a question about why people were voting Ricochet. I wasn't "pushing" anybody to do anything. I want to know why she said I was.

But spin things how you want. Apparently my questioning of nutella is supposed to prove I've been busy.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2017 11:42 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2017 8:22 amI don't think you think I'm bad. You're nibbling. You're not making any real effort of pursuit. You're not voting for me today. You're not trying to get other people to vote for me today. Your treatment of me reminds me of Mass Effect when a) you weren't a civilian, and b) you nibbled ("You got nervous").
Thanks for bringing up Mass Effect. It's cute the way you want to try and angle what happened there, but let me clarify... in Mass Effect: a) I was genuinely hunting baddies, and b) you were a baddie.

Let's compare.
Mass Effect Epignosis:
Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2017 10:42 am Long Con believes in killing his own teammates.
Blue Velvet Epignosis:
Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:29 pmLong Con had his own team kill him once.
Obvious parallels. Attempt to discredit your accuser as a method of avoiding suspicion. This is a proven Epignosis baddie tactic. How else can you discredit your accusers? Maybe rolling your eyes at them?

Mass Effect Epignosis:
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Apr 05, 2017 11:03 pmLong Con's reaction to my initial Vega claim (and being nervous ) makes me most suspicious of him.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Apr 05, 2017 2:44 pm In Turf Wars I had to keep reminding my team that their job was to get civilians lynched, not each other.
Blue Velvet Epignosis:
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2017 10:06 am
Then you asked me a question about Dyslexicon.

Then you ask me a question about Ricochet.

Maybe this post is accusing Dyslexicon and defending Ricochet.
Just like in Mass Effect, you are getting nervous because I am questioning you. You try to hide it behind condescending bluster and bravado, but your tells give you away (" "), and your meta seals the point.

You are bad, you're phoning it in, and you got caught. I understand that's not something you're wired to accept, but it's happening. I couldn't close the deal in Mass Effect, and you ended up winning as a baddie just like I was screaming you would the whole time. I don't have a lot of faith that the other players will see it this time, because you're historically really good at the manipulative talk to avoid your own lynch. But I saw through it then, and I see through it now.

You need a new shtick. Vote Epignosis

That's very compelling evidence against me.

Except I was not bad in Mass Effect. I was a neutral independent at the time you said I was nervous. I was never nervous, and I certainly wasn't nervous because of you. I was the one holding the cards Day 2. I used my fake claim brilliantly to draw accusations from someone who tried to kill me and assumed I was the bulletproof guy on the other team. It worked. I regard my Day 2 Mass Effect play to be one of the best things I ever accomplished. I was not nervous then, and I'm not nervous now. You are making things up.

I'm not bad here either.

Nor am I phoning it in. I am participating as I am able. Again, you're making shit up about me because you have nothing on me. Just like you did in Mass Effect.

To prove how delusional you are, and that you believe bullshit, let's examine an easily verifiable claim you just made.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri May 19, 2017 4:31 pm Since the latter portion of this game was lost in the madness, the winners were Cerberus-aligned:

gfishfunk, Jackofhearts2005, and nutella.

Huh. I don't see the name "Epignosis" there in the host's recap among the winners.

And I didn't ignore LC's final question. See the third eye roll.

I just said the AC is working now.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2017 9:49 am Stop trying to control the conversation. I addressed you because I looked at your ISO and found it lacking in player opinions. And now, instead of giving some player opinions like I asked, you're trying to steer the conversation away from that. I'm not interested in discussing times in the past when you might have laid low. You're doing it now, that's the concern.

Control the conversation? My my my. How over the top of you.

I'm sorry- where did you ask me to give "some player opinions" until just now?

The irony is that you said this, which I gather is a criticism:

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2017 12:29 am Epignosis. You have pretty much only focused on Dyslexicon as a suspicion. How does Dizzy's imminent replacement affect your opinion, and who else do you think is bad?

The criticism here is that I've "pretty much only focused on Dyslexicon as a suspicion."

Then you asked me a question about Dyslexicon.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2017 1:12 am No, I'm asking you questions because all you're doing is accusing Dizzy and defending Rico, and laying low.

Now your complaint is that, in addition to accusing Dyslexicon, all I'm doing is defending Ricochet (I'm not, but that's how you're choosing to frame it). Then guess what?

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2017 9:49 am Looks like Rico is going to be lynched. You think he's Civ? 'Cause your efforts to save him have been pretty lacklustre - who should we lynch instead? Dyslexicon? Long Con?

Then you ask me a question about Ricochet.

And I'm not laying low. I addressed this. I have had other shit to do. If you can't fathom that, oh well. speedchuck can tell you I've been busy writing and editing. nijuukyugou can tell you she was visiting us Thursday evening and Friday morning and that, when I have company, I don't sit on my computer playing Mafia. Elohcin can tell you the A/C downstairs crapped out and my dad and I were in the attic working on the damn thing; we were unsuccessful last night, but for some reason it's working this morning like nothing ever happened.

So no, not laying low, Mr. Manipulator.

Maybe this post is accusing Dyslexicon and defending Ricochet.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Jun 16, 2017 9:09 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Fri Jun 16, 2017 8:31 pm @Dys hope everything's ok

I'm sorta tempted to vote for Rico because I'm pretty damn sick of the annoyingness, but Epi's pushing me to reconsider since I don't really think Rico necessarily looks like/is behaving like a baddie. Like, he could be "hiding behind" the singsong bullshit and the no-u pattern, but I don't have a particularly strong reason to think that. But the more he's getting pushed on it and remaining stubborn, the more I'm doubting his innocence... idk. WIFOM and all that jazz. If I can't make up my mind on Rico I might join DH in voting for G-Man -- the points there don't feel like much but it's more than I have on anyone else.
I'm "pushing" you?

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2017 1:12 am No, I'm asking you questions because all you're doing is accusing Dizzy and defending Rico, and laying low.

I'm not laying low. I've had other stuff to do, like finish a book for speedchuck and have nijuukyugou over and fix a friggin $10,000 air conditioning. It isn't like anything compelling is going on in here anyway.

Your question to me implies that someone's role changes when he or she gets replaced. It doesn't. Because it doesn't, my opinion of Dyslexicon (or anyone) won't change because of a pending replacement.

I don't think you think I'm bad. You're nibbling. You're not making any real effort of pursuit. You're not voting for me today. You're not trying to get other people to vote for me today. Your treatment of me reminds me of Mass Effect when a) you weren't a civilian, and b) you nibbled ("You got nervous"). You are manufacturing little things to come at me with. Civilians have no reason to do this. Mafia do. This time, I'm laying low.

Okay, let's say I am. I'm laying low.

When was the last time you saw me lay low when I was bad?

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2017 12:29 am Epignosis. You have pretty much only focused on Dyslexicon as a suspicion.

False.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2017 12:29 amHow does Dizzy's imminent replacement affect your opinion, and who else do you think is bad?

You are asking me questions to ask me questions.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri Jun 16, 2017 11:44 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Jun 16, 2017 10:35 pm Does anybody honestly believe Ricochet is "hiding" behind his gimmick?

Every time someone suggests that, I roll my eyes.

I think he's doing what the hell he wants to do. It says nothing of his alignment to me. If you're lynching him because he's not playing the way you want him to, fine, but be honest about it. Don't act like he's bad because you don't like what he's doing.
Assuming Rico keeps this thing up: What could he do that would make you scumread him?

You're acting like Ricochet is failing to provide commentary in his posts. Commentary is there. I have agreed with some of the things he has said. So, to answer your question, he would have to do or say something I find suspicious. That hasn't occurred.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Fri Jun 16, 2017 10:51 pm Oh also I meant to add that it is becoming a distraction and at some point you have to weigh how distracted you want to be versus how much you give a shit and stuff.

That was supposed to be my final point

He's only a distraction if people choose to be distracted by him.

He's not standing next to anybody blowing an air horn.

Does anybody honestly believe Ricochet is "hiding" behind his gimmick?

Every time someone suggests that, I roll my eyes.

I think he's doing what the hell he wants to do. It says nothing of his alignment to me. If you're lynching him because he's not playing the way you want him to, fine, but be honest about it. Don't act like he's bad because you don't like what he's doing.

Please stop spamming my inbox about Ricochet. Say what you want to say about him in the thread.

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Jun 16, 2017 8:31 pm @Dys hope everything's ok

I'm sorta tempted to vote for Rico because I'm pretty damn sick of the annoyingness, but Epi's pushing me to reconsider since I don't really think Rico necessarily looks like/is behaving like a baddie. Like, he could be "hiding behind" the singsong bullshit and the no-u pattern, but I don't have a particularly strong reason to think that. But the more he's getting pushed on it and remaining stubborn, the more I'm doubting his innocence... idk. WIFOM and all that jazz. If I can't make up my mind on Rico I might join DH in voting for G-Man -- the points there don't feel like much but it's more than I have on anyone else.

I'm "pushing" you?

Are you lynching Ricochet because you believe he's bad and you need him dead to win, or are you lynching Ricochet because he is being annoying?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Jun 16, 2017 12:04 pm
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Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Jun 16, 2017 10:14 am
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2017 8:27 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2017 8:26 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2017 8:23 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2017 12:14 am I'm interested in the public vote as a scum hunting mechanism.
Did you ever make something of this, Sloonei?
No.
Could you?

So... what does it mean to vote someone for protection? You think they're Civ? You just want them to make it further?

DharmaHelper and speedchuck voted for nutella to be protected last night. Contrast that to Sloonei's instant vote on nutella today. I'd like to hear you gentlemen talk that out a little.

G-Man and Long Con both voted DH for protection. I gave my reason, but I haven't looked back to remind myself of G-Man's. I want vote-order to be part of our polls again as well. I'd like to easily be able to see who voted for someone when it was clear S~V~S was winning, if that happened. You know, that kind of thing.

Sprityo self-voted. Kind of tragic.

Timmer, Spacedaisy, and Epignosis voted S~V~S, and Epi cast the "deciding" vote. Given that I think Epi is bad, I would say that makes S~V~S look a little better, because I don't see why a baddie would vote to protect a teammate in this situation. The situation being that baddies don't need protecting because they're the ones killing.

S~V~S, nutella, Llama, Rico, Sloonei all voted one-offs.

Ok, Sloonei, I have tried to set the stage for using this as a scum-hunting mechanism. Perhaps some of your ideas on that front will be easier to process no?
@Long Con, why do you think a baddie would be unlikely to vote for a teammate in the protection poll? If they're the ones performing the kill, it does not matter one way or the other who they vote to protect. They could theoretically choose to protect a teammate. There is very little risk with the potential for a reward (a town vigilante, perhaps, could attempt to fire on said teammate).

My thought process on this vote is that scum would generally be less careful with their votes. They know who they are killing, so it does not matter who they vote for. Players who gave no reason or frivolous reasons would be worth looking at. I know I gave no reason. I was away on sick person business for most of the night and realized about 15 minutes peior to the deadline that I had not cast a vote yet. Epi dies early in a lot of games and I had a slight inclination to town read him, so he was my first instinct. My vote didn't seem to matter much anyway.

I didn't think of this until now, but the optimal strategy for that poll would have been to tie it up. Assuming the protection would be randomly distributed, there would have been a slim chance that the mafia kill would have dudded.

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2017 12:10 am It sounds interesting, but mutiny is generally a negative kind of thing.

Depends on the master.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2017 11:29 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2017 11:15 pm
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2017 11:12 pm No I think it's unlikely you are correct that they are baddies together
I see.

Are you of the opinion that both are innocent?
I have no opinion on dyslexicon at this time. I only have the opinion that LC is likely civ.

Everybody is "likely" civilian.

Unless INH made up something where there are more mafia than civilians and they only have open BTSC like everybody else.

Which would be kind of neat.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2017 11:27 pm I need to go to bed.

Before I do, I need to get this off my chest: Epi, if you happen to care about what alignment I am - If you try to fit me in the form of what YOU think is logical to do as a player you will fail to understand how I play and therefore fail to read me. When I left the thread you had thsi accusation that I should've waited for Nut to respond (I'm assuming that's what you're picking at) because I said I wanted to see what happen. I DID want to see what happened (the reason I chose Nut was because then she would be the biggest wagon which might've been fun), and then I wanted to see what happened when I voted you instead. I have many many many town games where I'll change my vote within minutes (and probably seconds) because I just change my mind or have many ideas/directions I want to go. This may not be the way YOU think or approach the game, but if you're trying to find a straight line in my play on D1 you will fail. I'm actually way more "consistent" when I'm mafia, cause then I actually care about that stuff. I feel I've had this conversation before on this forum. If you happen to be town in this game, and we play in a later game and a similar situation appears, I will be sure to remind you of this time. Clearly we have very different approaches, cause I can't wrap my brain around how you would ever find that actually suspicious at all - much less call it a straight out lie. You're not inside my head. But you could try, and I'll try the opposite. So that's what I have to say about that.

If you are trying to claim your innocence by presenting me with a skeleton key regarding how you play when you're good and how you play when you're bad, as though you aren't capable of emulating the former in the latter situation, I'm sorry:

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2017 11:12 pm No I think it's unlikely you are correct that they are baddies together

I see.

Are you of the opinion that both are innocent?

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2017 9:09 pm Clearly Epi thinks or thought that dyslexicon and LC were teammates but I find it unlikely since I think LC is being truthful about the way things went down.

You find it unlikely that I think or thought they were teammates?

I voted for nothing and S~V~S.

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