The Syndicate

That's what it was. Delta and I were teammates together and I vaguely recalled something that made me suspicious early on. Couldn't find the chat or remember what game, but I recall now. It was about turtles.

No idea what sparked my suspicion initially, but glad to know I'm not crazy.

Or at least not for that reason.

[VOTE: Unvote] aubergine

I am not the moderator on duty, but strictly in the capacity of an admin, I will ask that folks step away, take a breather, and stop responding to one another with a lack of cordiality. If you are upset, the moderator on duty I believe is fingersplints. Please speak to her with any grievances.

^ @fingersplints

I do think leetic is mafia.

My response would not be some bullshit counter claim if I were leetic. Mine would be utter rage along the lines of how-dare-you-lie-about-me-etc.

Comfortable with my vote.

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 11:12 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 11:03 pm If leetic is bad, LC is the teammate:

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 12, 2023 5:03 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Thu Oct 12, 2023 5:00 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 12, 2023 4:51 pm I'm going to [VOTE: pyxxy] aubergine. Still feel like the psypsypsythe thing was "busy work", as Thunal(?) put it, and... did that 'research' actually happen? Third-highest poster, but there's a lot of fluff involved, I don't even know what the geese thing is, this is Beans Mafia, not Geese Mafia. Is leetic Canadian, is that what that's about?
My problem here is that you're entirely focused on pyxxy's older posts when their newer ones are much more substantive. Then again you probably haven't read the whole thread but still
I have read the new posts, and I do not find them substantive at all. More fluff and waffles.
Raise your hand if leetic gave you that kind of leeway.
I was hypothetically offended at that post, since you bring it up. I don't know why leetic would assume that of me.

My meaning here is that leetic won't give me twelve seconds to read the thread before asking me a question about a person but here gives you a convenient out.

leetic wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 11:11 pm Well, I know I'm probably dead already. But I implore you that we at least focus on other stuff today. Y'all do realize that this day'll be a complete waste if I flip town (which I will)

If you are a civilian, I know exactly what I'll do.

leetic wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 11:05 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 11:03 pm If leetic is bad, LC is the teammate:

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 12, 2023 5:03 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Thu Oct 12, 2023 5:00 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 12, 2023 4:51 pm I'm going to [VOTE: pyxxy] aubergine. Still feel like the psypsypsythe thing was "busy work", as Thunal(?) put it, and... did that 'research' actually happen? Third-highest poster, but there's a lot of fluff involved, I don't even know what the geese thing is, this is Beans Mafia, not Geese Mafia. Is leetic Canadian, is that what that's about?
My problem here is that you're entirely focused on pyxxy's older posts when their newer ones are much more substantive. Then again you probably haven't read the whole thread but still
I have read the new posts, and I do not find them substantive at all. More fluff and waffles.
Raise your hand if leetic gave you that kind of leeway.
When I flip town, what will you think of Abigail?

If leetic is bad, LC is the teammate:

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 12, 2023 5:03 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Thu Oct 12, 2023 5:00 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 12, 2023 4:51 pm I'm going to [VOTE: pyxxy] aubergine. Still feel like the psypsypsythe thing was "busy work", as Thunal(?) put it, and... did that 'research' actually happen? Third-highest poster, but there's a lot of fluff involved, I don't even know what the geese thing is, this is Beans Mafia, not Geese Mafia. Is leetic Canadian, is that what that's about?
My problem here is that you're entirely focused on pyxxy's older posts when their newer ones are much more substantive. Then again you probably haven't read the whole thread but still
I have read the new posts, and I do not find them substantive at all. More fluff and waffles.

Raise your hand if leetic gave you that kind of leeway.

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 10:55 pm I'm actually excited now lol. I love reading into spew and I want to start working on 300 posts of it.

And I just want to go to bed because I have 22 hours of work ahead of me but now won't.

leetic wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 10:50 pm
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 10:49 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 10:47 pm I give PA ten minutes to rescind the claim.

I'll fast forward the Clock for you

It ain't gonna go away. soz for your rand.
I know you're wrong, because I'm the cop. I have a green on Scotty.

Where's Blackmon?

He's here somewhere.

Charlie?

Charlie?

Oh Charlie thank God there you are.

Spoiler: show

leetic wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 10:46 pm If PA is mafia, then claiming cop when they are well aware of a potential CC is a very bad idea unless they want to get rid of the town cop that much. Maybe they're a jester, but are those really common in this day and age? Town gambit is most likely, but keep in mind that this is a very very bad idea and there are a million ways that this can go wrong.

I don't know.

I'm kind of having fun again all of a sudden.

[VOTE: leetic] aubergine unless I care again.

leetic wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 10:37 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 10:37 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 10:36 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 10:35 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 10:32 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 10:29 pm
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 10:28 pm

Sure but I don't need to read for town to win. I've already solved the game.
Excellent. I can go to bed now that I'm done with work.
Didn't you vote for Dyslexicon? Why would you go with their replacement's "solve"?
I have a terrific scholarly article I'd like you to read.
So, what do you think of PA so far?
I'm going to bed.
Nice read

Pro Tip: You're never going to get me in a "gotcha moment," which is all you seem to be trying to do.

You're also never going to get an opinion out of me on a person I saw just came into the game.

I sign up for Mafia to have fun.

I'm not having fun.

I'm tired. I work a lot.

Ergo, I'm going to bed.

leetic wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 10:36 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 10:35 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 10:32 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 10:29 pm
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 10:28 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 10:26 pm
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 10:23 pm

Mmmm I don't really like homework especially 3 pages of it
But do you like town winning?
Sure but I don't need to read for town to win. I've already solved the game.
Excellent. I can go to bed now that I'm done with work.
Didn't you vote for Dyslexicon? Why would you go with their replacement's "solve"?
I have a terrific scholarly article I'd like you to read.
So, what do you think of PA so far?

I'm going to bed.

leetic wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 10:32 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 10:29 pm
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 10:28 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 10:26 pm
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 10:23 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 6:34 pm
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 6:16 pm It is unlikely I will read anything
At least read the last 2-3 pages of EoD. Since you didn't participate and can come in with the preknowledge that LP and Scotty were town, maybe you'll be able to glean something we can't
Mmmm I don't really like homework especially 3 pages of it
But do you like town winning?
Sure but I don't need to read for town to win. I've already solved the game.
Excellent. I can go to bed now that I'm done with work.
Didn't you vote for Dyslexicon? Why would you go with their replacement's "solve"?

I have a terrific scholarly article I'd like you to read.

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 10:28 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 10:26 pm
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 10:23 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 6:34 pm
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 6:16 pm It is unlikely I will read anything
At least read the last 2-3 pages of EoD. Since you didn't participate and can come in with the preknowledge that LP and Scotty were town, maybe you'll be able to glean something we can't
Mmmm I don't really like homework especially 3 pages of it
But do you like town winning?
Sure but I don't need to read for town to win. I've already solved the game.

Excellent. I can go to bed now that I'm done with work.

I'm busy for about twenty more minutes I think.

Unfortunate result.

leetic wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2023 11:32 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2023 11:31 pm There's one post.
But what a post it is.

Yep.

There's one post.

leetic wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2023 11:29 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2023 11:26 pm Having one more beer before I crap out. If you want me to look at any one particular person, I'll do so.
If you can look at one person, look at LP

All right.

As of right now:

leetic, S~V~S, Seanzie = good
Thunal, Dyslexicon = bad

Having one more beer before I crap out. If you want me to look at any one particular person, I'll do so.

Once I go to bed tonight, you won't see me until before the deadline. I will be out of town (and probably lost, as we will be in a massive corn maze).

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2023 7:26 pm [VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

Slight suspicion here. He seemed too concerned with making sure people didn't think he got the info that he was last from wolfchat and responding to leetic without doing much else.

Do you really believe that?

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2023 7:05 pm So far I townlean leetic, SVS, Seanzie, and Dizzy. Dizzy's whole approach of playing to test his accuracy and then getting sucked into the game anyway is towny imo.

I'm intrigued by the list followed by the outlier explanation here.

Thunal and Dys are teammates.

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2023 11:05 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2023 10:11 pmThat you're just intentionally being obtuse?
leetic, I'd like you to meet my friend, Epignosis.

leetic wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2023 6:46 pm Epignosis: Another "nothing" player, a bit worrying since he usually does much more as town. GTH scum

Just a point about me that I've been emphasizing for ages now:

I work a different schedule. I only play mafia at night (EST). You will now see me do absolutely nothing any other time unless there's a deadline.

I'm far from a "nothing" player. I'm just old.

Yeah, Thunal is mafia to me right now.

I have a brutally hard time seeing leetic as mafia.

leetic wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2023 10:46 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2023 10:43 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2023 10:37 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2023 10:36 pm Thunal is in this? I didn't know. That's concerning.
Do you lean wolf on them?
You're amazing. I just pointed out my surprise that Thunal is in this.

Do you expect me to have an opinion?

Me: "I didn't know I ordered a burger!"

Leetic: "Well how is it?"
So is your surprise "I'm surprised Thunal is in this, none of their posts stood out to me", "I'm surprised Thunal is in this, I thought they wouldn't show up", "I'm surprised Thunal is in this, I thought they were dead", etc.? What was even the point of pointing that out?

You're right- I apologize for interpreting your question the way I did. Update is upstairs. ^

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2023 10:43 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2023 10:37 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2023 10:36 pm Thunal is in this? I didn't know. That's concerning.
Do you lean wolf on them?
You're amazing. I just pointed out my surprise that Thunal is in this.

Do you expect me to have an opinion?

Me: "I didn't know I ordered a burger!"

Leetic: "Well how is it?"

To clarify, since I realize your question could go another way:

It is concerning to me that Thunal is participating and I wasn't aware of that until this point in the sense that Thunal is a very vocal and obvious civilian participant when civilian.

I do not suspect Thunal on that basis alone.

leetic wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2023 10:37 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2023 10:36 pm Thunal is in this? I didn't know. That's concerning.
Do you lean wolf on them?

You're amazing. I just pointed out my surprise that Thunal is in this.

Do you expect me to have an opinion?

Me: "I didn't know I ordered a burger!"

Leetic: "Well how is it?"

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2023 5:34 pm
Delta wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2023 5:26 pm ?_? I'm a little spooked by the whole "I wont vote Delta because I've never played with him"

I'd much rather be voted if you think I'm mafia than get a D1 pass because you dont know me because I cant work with just being told 'you're new, you can live' & I dont really want to hear down the line 'I found Delta weird D1 but I gave him a pass :3' since I dont really want to have me being relatively new to the Syndicate being treated as a cop out for giving a read on me

Does that make sense? Idk I'm tired T_T
Why are you spooked by it? If you're town, take the freebee.

In addition, I believe Scotty has already told you that he does suspect you, even if he won't vote for you. So it's already proven that this custom isn't really being used as a cop out for giving reads.

The way you're rolling on the floor with your stomach exposed doesn't match your triangular shaped wolf nose, my darling.

Shit take.

Delta has every right to be spooked since mafia know who civilians are. This is a surprising response by Dyslexicon.

Thunal is in this? I didn't know. That's concerning.

Roxy's not mafia.

Delta wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2023 5:26 pm ?_? I'm a little spooked by the whole "I wont vote Delta because I've never played with him"

I'd much rather be voted if you think I'm mafia than get a D1 pass because you dont know me because I cant work with just being told 'you're new, you can live' & I dont really want to hear down the line 'I found Delta weird D1 but I gave him a pass :3' since I dont really want to have me being relatively new to the Syndicate being treated as a cop out for giving a read on me

Does that make sense? Idk I'm tired T_T

All right. I appreciate this post from Delta in response to Roxy. Delta moves out of the shit bin of mystery.

leetic wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2023 10:27 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2023 10:26 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2023 10:26 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2023 10:24 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2023 10:23 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2023 10:22 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2023 10:19 pm

GTH town or mafia?
Then I get shot.

I don't work like that. I said I have no take yet. That means I have... you know...

No take yet.
Have you not read (at least some of) LC's posts? You know the guy much better than I do, how do you have no take yet?
I'm here in real time but have not read a few pages if that makes any sense.
Almost all of LC's posts are from the time when you reentered the thread.
Then you have the answer to your question, don't you?
That you're just intentionally being obtuse?

If that's how you'd prefer to frame it.

leetic wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2023 10:26 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2023 10:24 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2023 10:23 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2023 10:22 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2023 10:19 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2023 10:18 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2023 10:15 pm

What's your read on Long Con?
No take yet. Good guy. Probably excellent sandwiches.
GTH town or mafia?
Then I get shot.

I don't work like that. I said I have no take yet. That means I have... you know...

No take yet.
Have you not read (at least some of) LC's posts? You know the guy much better than I do, how do you have no take yet?
I'm here in real time but have not read a few pages if that makes any sense.
Almost all of LC's posts are from the time when you reentered the thread.

Then you have the answer to your question, don't you?

leetic wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2023 10:23 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2023 10:22 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2023 10:19 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2023 10:18 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2023 10:15 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2023 10:15 pm Anyway, in case you don't know, I only really play at night anymore.

Tomorrow I'm not even going to be home.

I'll be available a few hours before the deadline.

My current biggest suspect is Dyslexicon.
What's your read on Long Con?
No take yet. Good guy. Probably excellent sandwiches.
GTH town or mafia?
Then I get shot.

I don't work like that. I said I have no take yet. That means I have... you know...

No take yet.
Have you not read (at least some of) LC's posts? You know the guy much better than I do, how do you have no take yet?

I'm here in real time but have not read a few pages if that makes any sense.

If I'm calling out a two-person mafia team right now, it's Dyslexicon for what I already said and Delta for shit I can't find but know is somewhere around here.

leetic wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2023 10:19 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2023 10:18 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2023 10:15 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2023 10:15 pm Anyway, in case you don't know, I only really play at night anymore.

Tomorrow I'm not even going to be home.

I'll be available a few hours before the deadline.

My current biggest suspect is Dyslexicon.
What's your read on Long Con?
No take yet. Good guy. Probably excellent sandwiches.
GTH town or mafia?

Then I get shot.

I don't work like that. I said I have no take yet. That means I have... you know...

No take yet.

Still want to find why I suspected Delta. There was something.

leetic wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2023 10:15 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2023 10:15 pm Anyway, in case you don't know, I only really play at night anymore.

Tomorrow I'm not even going to be home.

I'll be available a few hours before the deadline.

My current biggest suspect is Dyslexicon.
What's your read on Long Con?

No take yet. Good guy. Probably excellent sandwiches.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2023 10:16 pm What up Epi?

Shit in the middle east.

Oh, other current opinions:

S~V~S is fine.
Seanzie is fine.

Anyway, in case you don't know, I only really play at night anymore.

Tomorrow I'm not even going to be home.

I'll be available a few hours before the deadline.

My current biggest suspect is Dyslexicon.

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2023 10:09 pm How's it going, brother? Just like old times!

I wish! I stay busy but work weekends and evenings now. No longer a teacher (I think I told you that already). I'm a professional writer!

Do miss the old days of double fisting The Syndicate AND Mafia Revolution. Those were good times.

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2023 10:06 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2023 10:05 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2023 10:00 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2023 9:56 pm My take on Delta was real, but I can't find the evidence to back it up.
Do you have any actual thoughts?
Bourbon > Canadians
[VOTE: epignosis] aubergine

leetic wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2023 10:07 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2023 10:04 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2023 4:44 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2023 4:38 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2023 4:35 pm Which means

[VOTE: Epignosis] aubergine
Hell of a lot better than a self-vote, but any reasons?
I have seen Epig lean forward and try as town. I have seen Epig lean backwards and not do anything as mafia.

I think it's too early to make any judgement about him here, really. But I might as well move my vote there.
This is a big fat nothing burger (which is what bean burgers are).
[VOTE: Epignosis] aubergine

Your play this game has been a big fat nothing burger.

Fun.

[VOTE: Dyslexicon] aubergine

There's the "I'm going to be different this time around" coupled with "I'm going to say nothing about Epignosis, vote him, not vote him, etc."

Dyslexicon isn't a civilian this time around I'm sorry to say.

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