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by Epignosis
Fri Mar 13, 2020 9:24 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [GAME OVER]
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Re: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [Day 6]

Michelle wrote: Fri Mar 13, 2020 5:10 pm Like I said in the dream level, for me this game means very much emotion. Is hard to read without emotion.
When a player is emotionless, from various reasons, I cannot read him because words are just words and who can speak his mind easy and eloquent, that one can manipulate the game.
This is why this post makes me dislike Speed. Idk if it makes him mafia, but doesn't put him in a towny position.
I don't want to sway anyone one way or another with what I'm about to say, but I've met speedchuck in real life. He's very analytical, facts-oriented, and not as emotional as the rest of the nuts running this asylum. Take that for what you will.
by Epignosis
Fri Mar 13, 2020 9:21 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [GAME OVER]
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Re: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [Day 6]

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Fri Mar 13, 2020 5:07 pm
speedchuck wrote: Fri Mar 13, 2020 5:03 pm :shrug2: I'm probably not, come to think of it. Though I do get invested sometimes.

I recognize that you're looking for that investment, a genuine desire for hunting perhaps. You're not going to find that much from me this game. You can check my other town games in the past six months and see what you see there, on the flipside. When I don't have time, I don't have much at all.
I don't fault you for being short on time and having less overall to offer. That's the way it goes. What I do think is different for This Speedchuck over Those Speedchucks though is your handling of suspicion. In the recent past, I remember you falling into similar POE positions where you were kind of a default suspect merely for not having a lot of content. Then, when someone tried to lynch you, you showed fire in your resistance to that.

You did it to me in the MU Season 6 Scrimmage when I was trying to mislynch you. You didn't shrug and say whatever. You fought back against a JJJ that you viewed as nefarious trying to take advantage of you. You've said that you suspect me in this game too (still not clear on why), and here I am now driving a wagon that threatens to end you. In response, I get no fire. I get shrugs.
To be clear, were you bad that time JJJ?
by Epignosis
Fri Mar 13, 2020 8:22 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [GAME OVER]
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Views: 258386

Re: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [Day 6]

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Fri Mar 13, 2020 1:26 am
Epignosis wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 10:22 pm Observers: Commence to comment.
I'm keen to lynch Colin. On that front, sure. I agree with your conclusion. One question:

You noted Colin agreeing with Dyslexicon about a point against Tony. You said you sought follow-up. Later you observed Colin's Day 2 vote for Tony and said you didn't know why he placed it. And lastly you mentioned that the "Tony stuff you were looking for" was vague.

Please expand on all of that. It looks disjointed to me, and at times I struggled to follow what you were saying in general within that case.
Colin didn't bother to interact with his suspects. That's a red flag. A vote doesn't mean anything to me, especially with more than one mafia. I was looking for Colin to parse his suspicion of Tony.

This is where I am. I'll read the rest after this in about an hour. And get roaring drunk. Again. :beer:
by Epignosis
Fri Mar 13, 2020 12:05 am
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [GAME OVER]
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Re: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [Day 6]

I think about it tomorrow.

For today I'm fried.
by Epignosis
Fri Mar 13, 2020 12:00 am
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [GAME OVER]
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Views: 258386

Re: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [Day 6]

There is a second lynch today.

If we are allowed to talk about out picks, then EVERYONE needs to vote and EVERYONE needs to announce a secret pick.

There's no excuse for this. Unless I am misunderstanding things, this needs to happen.

If you vote otherwise than your spoken vote, you will be held accountable.
by Epignosis
Thu Mar 12, 2020 11:57 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [GAME OVER]
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Views: 258386

Re: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [Day 6]

But that's entirely based on what Colin has said, so it's in no way useful I don't think.
by Epignosis
Thu Mar 12, 2020 11:56 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [GAME OVER]
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Views: 258386

Re: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [Day 6]

I think Michelle and Colin are connected.
by Epignosis
Thu Mar 12, 2020 11:54 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [GAME OVER]
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Views: 258386

Re: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [Day 6]

With Michelle, the suspicion exists because of other people. Nothing direct. I can show you examples from what I've seen.
by Epignosis
Thu Mar 12, 2020 11:53 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [GAME OVER]
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Re: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [Day 6]

Nah, I'm done giving you shit Dom. Thanks for being a good sport.

I suspect Michelle.
by Epignosis
Thu Mar 12, 2020 11:51 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [GAME OVER]
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Views: 258386

Re: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [Day 6]

Dom wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 11:50 pm I'd truly love to have a real discussion this game. Who is interested?
Sorry I'm not woke enough.

Am I using the lingo right?
by Epignosis
Thu Mar 12, 2020 11:50 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [GAME OVER]
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Views: 258386

Re: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [Day 6]

I'm fine with my vote for Colin. I have to think of a...secret vote.

SECRET VOTE woooooo
by Epignosis
Thu Mar 12, 2020 11:49 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [GAME OVER]
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Re: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [Day 6]

And by "literally" I MEAN GODDAMN LITERALLY. Whiskey and a chaser.
by Epignosis
Thu Mar 12, 2020 11:48 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [GAME OVER]
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Views: 258386

Re: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [Day 6]

Christ almighty I'm old and should live in my house forever. I am literally about to have a shot and chaser.
by Epignosis
Thu Mar 12, 2020 11:46 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [GAME OVER]
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Views: 258386

Re: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [Day 6]

Dom wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 11:43 pm Shot
Turnip Head wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 11:19 am Meh I'll defend myself later. Sorry for playing like hot garbage this game :shrug2: whoops
Chaser
Turnip Head wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 11:41 pm
Dom wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 11:36 pm As predicted, Turnip didn't give a shit what I posted.
I have nothing new to say to you
I know what a shot and chaser is (believe me), but what does it mean here?
by Epignosis
Thu Mar 12, 2020 11:44 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [GAME OVER]
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Views: 258386

Re: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [Day 6]

Dom wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 11:42 pm
Epignosis wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 11:37 pm Come on, Dom. You have to at least laugh at my nonsense. I'm a funny guy.
I find you amusing, Rob.

I don't find Turnip or Colin amusing.
If I had put a Chris Matthews picture in that spoiler, it would have been perfect. But alas, I failed to think of it in time.
by Epignosis
Thu Mar 12, 2020 11:37 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [GAME OVER]
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Views: 258386

Re: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [Day 6]

Come on, Dom. You have to at least laugh at my nonsense. I'm a funny guy.
by Epignosis
Thu Mar 12, 2020 11:33 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [GAME OVER]
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Views: 258386

Re: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [Day 6]

There's a second vote too. Don't forget that shit. If you do that, you suck as a civilian. If you are mafia, disregard this message.
by Epignosis
Thu Mar 12, 2020 11:15 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [GAME OVER]
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Views: 258386

Re: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [Day 6]

Turnip Head wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 11:11 pm
Epignosis wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 11:08 pm
Turnip Head wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 11:06 pm
Epignosis wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 10:24 pm I'm sober and there's no sports to look at.

Bitches who kept me alive thinking I'm soft done FUCKED UP.
My man
Your who now?
I just engaged you
Fuck I'm coronaed.
by Epignosis
Thu Mar 12, 2020 11:08 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [GAME OVER]
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Views: 258386

Re: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [Day 6]

Turnip Head wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 11:06 pm
Epignosis wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 10:24 pm I'm sober and there's no sports to look at.

Bitches who kept me alive thinking I'm soft done FUCKED UP.
My man
Your who now?
by Epignosis
Thu Mar 12, 2020 10:58 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [GAME OVER]
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Views: 258386

Re: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [Day 6]

Epignosis wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 10:52 pm
Dom wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 10:49 pm ...uhh

why is everyone's default response to me "I don't want to engage with you"'

Y'all hate me that much?
Okay.

This is going to be tough to say.

There's a dialect in typing that makes everyone think what you're really asking for is their hand in marriage. That's problematic for many reasons. Some people are married. Some have children. Some are fourteen.

Perhaps you should try a different wording to get people to "engage with you."
Folks, this is what I have the time to do when coronavirus hysteria has canceled every major sporting in the USA.

Is that what you really want for our future? Think of the children!
Spoiler: show
Or in Dom's case, don't.
by Epignosis
Thu Mar 12, 2020 10:52 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [GAME OVER]
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Views: 258386

Re: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [Day 6]

Dom wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 10:49 pm ...uhh

why is everyone's default response to me "I don't want to engage with you"'

Y'all hate me that much?
Okay.

This is going to be tough to say.

There's a dialect in typing that makes everyone think what you're really asking for is their hand in marriage. That's problematic for many reasons. Some people are married. Some have children. Some are fourteen.

Perhaps you should try a different wording to get people to "engage with you."
by Epignosis
Thu Mar 12, 2020 10:47 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [GAME OVER]
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Re: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [Day 6]

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 10:47 pm Meh. [VOTE: Coliniscool] aubergine
Can you be more specific?

:meany:
by Epignosis
Thu Mar 12, 2020 10:44 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [GAME OVER]
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Views: 258386

Re: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [Day 6]

Thanks for fucking up my moment Jack GOD THE WHOLE WORLD IS GOING TO HELL
by Epignosis
Thu Mar 12, 2020 10:44 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [GAME OVER]
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Re: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [Day 6]

Well fuck you got everything capitalized anyway GOD THE WHOLE WORLD IS GOING TO HELL
by Epignosis
Thu Mar 12, 2020 10:44 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [GAME OVER]
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Re: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [Day 6]

And have a vote while you do it.

[VOTE: ColinisCool] aubergine

You don't even get the vowel in your verb capitalized until you perform.

#Shade
by Epignosis
Thu Mar 12, 2020 10:42 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [GAME OVER]
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Views: 258386

Re: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [Day 6]

If you have the opportunity, pick two or three of those "Would lynch" people and talk about reasons. I think the biggest issue I have with you is that you don't elaborate.
by Epignosis
Thu Mar 12, 2020 10:38 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [GAME OVER]
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Views: 258386

Re: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [Day 6]

ColinIsCool wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 10:33 pm Epi, I only see one part of that post I’m meant to respond to, so regarding the Michelle post, I found her reasoning to be very strange (“an independent can have ...”) as if awkwardly forcing a read.
I'm asking other people to respond to it. You can carry on.

I do appreciate the clarification. That does make more sense. Next time use your words. :meany:
by Epignosis
Thu Mar 12, 2020 10:29 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [GAME OVER]
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Views: 258386

Re: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [Day 6]

Now there's this secret vote deal. I'm assuming we're allowed to talk about that?
by Epignosis
Thu Mar 12, 2020 10:24 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [GAME OVER]
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Views: 258386

Re: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [Day 6]

I'm sober and there's no sports to look at.

Bitches who kept me alive thinking I'm soft done FUCKED UP.
by Epignosis
Thu Mar 12, 2020 10:22 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [GAME OVER]
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Views: 258386

Re: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [Day 6]

Colin:
ColinIsCool wrote: Thu Feb 27, 2020 6:31 pm
Michelle wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2020 2:39 pm [VOTE: Master Radishes] aubergine

He left the game long ago and didn't give me the villagery feeling he had in the inception game. I know he was 3rd part, but an independent can have towny posts easier than mafia.
:ponder:
This face says nothing to me. What does it mean?
ColinIsCool wrote: Thu Feb 27, 2020 6:51 pm
Epignosis wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2020 11:54 pm juliets bothers me.

She has 18 total posts. Very few of those posts are interactive questions. Rather, she's done two investigative style posts, one on Jack and half a one on nutella.

That is unnerving, because I'm used to seeing an engaged civilian juliets peppering people with questions and trying to piece things together. All of this feels like busy work. Even the conclusion on Jack is a weasel:

"Jack is very good at being scum. I need to think about and/or get feedback about my points above or other points about Jack but he is a possibility for my vote today."
Good post here, something was bothering me about juliets up to this point and I couldn’t put my finger on it but Epi did.
:ponder:
ColinIsCool wrote: Thu Feb 27, 2020 7:13 pm Although before I caught up I misinterpreted nutella as scum and read the thread as such, so some of my thoughts are useless.

I feel best about sig, his NANOOK suspicion and case felt really genuine. I also really like just about everything I’ve seen from ted. I like Jay so far, and Epi.

The Michelle post I quoted earlier bugged me out, I’m not sure what it meant/if it makes any sense. I agree with Epi’s concerne toward juliets.

Radishes isn’t giving me the same exact vibe as he did when I sniffed him out as 3P in Inception, but it’s similar ...
Okay then.

Also, can we call the line with the red text, "Antisalad?" Wouldn't that be a pizza? Colin is guilty of player pizza. :srsnod:

This is a problem because Colin doesn't make any effort to discover what Michelle meant. No push. No pull. No effort.

"I caught this guy (who is bad here) as a third party elsewhere and yet... :shrug2:
ColinIsCool wrote: Sat Feb 29, 2020 12:57 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: Fri Feb 28, 2020 10:43 pm Oh, and I really disliked Tony's vote D1. Not just because it was on me, but because it was late in the day on a complete off wagon, not with any convincing or anything, so it's not like he tried to make a lynch happen. Apart from that he's also played with me before, so he should be able to have an actual opinion on me. But the main thing is that it was off wagon and a throw away vote. Sloonei did that as scum (lone vote on me D1) when he was scum the last time I was town. Just saying.
Love this point, that stuff is almost always shady.
I'll be looking to see if Colin follows up with this.
ColinIsCool wrote: Sat Feb 29, 2020 1:08 pm
sabie12 wrote: Sat Feb 29, 2020 4:44 am I feel bad for colin in that I feel like people often don't get me either but his ISO doesn't make me feel good about him. He doesn't seem to be interested in keeping up with what's going on and trying to figure things out. He asked about jack and then didn't give any further thoughts on it.

Does TH always have short responses and ask other people to make reads for him? I know I've played with him before but I don't remember. I feel like he's been kind of providing reads without much explanation and asking others to tell him why someone is scummy.

Nanook has had a big change in his tone since coming back so he must be excited about the role he got. I don't know if that's a good thing or not because he seems like he was hoping to be mafia but could just be a more exciting role. I find it weird he made it a point to point out he didn't get a mafia role.

I don't know if I've seen a bad jay before? I thought he looked like his usual self and getting discussion going and making reads. Is he different when he's bad?

Good to see sloonei seems back to his usual self. Just has to start asking more questions and have more long ISO posts and we got the old sloonei back. (Glad you're feeling better) good post on radishes I'm not familiar with them and they don't seem to be familiar with a lot of people here either so that's a good point.
This is the first time I’ve been on the site since making that post. I can hardly post when I’m not here. :shrug:

My thoughts on Jack: I somehow skipped over all that in my frenetic catch-up. I think it’s a somewhat decent look for him. I don’t see why scum-Jack would spend all day tearing down nutella to only un-tear her and draw attention to himself for being weird.
sabie leads her post with what could hardly be called an accusation against Colin, as what follows sounds to me like, "I've interacted with Colin in some way, now don't look at that and here are other concerns I have."
ColinIsCool wrote: Sat Feb 29, 2020 1:14 pm
juliets wrote: Sat Feb 29, 2020 8:51 am
Sloonei wrote: Fri Feb 28, 2020 11:25 pm
juliets wrote: Fri Feb 28, 2020 10:28 pm @Sloonei you mentioned you had mislynched Colin in the past for similar behavior (I think that's what you said). Can you expound on that at all?
I don't know if I said "similar behavior", but what I've mislynched colin for in the past is his tendency to hang back and provide reads at his own pace. It's easy to misread that as a tentative, behind-the-action scum player, when in reality it's just been a behind-the-action civilian trying not to overstate his thoughts.

I have not looked closely at his posts in this game so I can't give you a detailed interpretation of what he looks like here. But that's my general warning against lynching Colin.
Thank you Sloonei that is helpful. I'll take another look at him and try to guard against reading him on a tendency to hang back and provide reads at his own pace.
juliets, I’ve been playing games with you since I signed up here, including recently. Why do you need Sloonei to tell you how I play? :confused:
This post is shite.

It's also funny if you interpret "playing games with you" to mean something sinister. :feb:
ColinIsCool wrote: Sat Feb 29, 2020 1:19 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Sat Feb 29, 2020 12:28 pm
Dom wrote: Sat Feb 29, 2020 9:21 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Fri Feb 28, 2020 9:48 pm I'd rather kill Colin anyways, which is where my vote is going
This isn’t the worst take
It is, in fact, an excellent take
:haha:

PSA for the thread: when I get mislynched, take a gander at the people looking for my easy mislynch right off the bat, for ... “reasons”
PSA for civilians: When I, Epignosis, gets lynched and am not bad, look at all my posts so you can see who is. :smoky:

Colin has provided nothing here.
ColinIsCool wrote: Sat Feb 29, 2020 1:23 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Sat Feb 29, 2020 1:20 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: Sat Feb 29, 2020 1:19 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Sat Feb 29, 2020 12:28 pm
Dom wrote: Sat Feb 29, 2020 9:21 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Fri Feb 28, 2020 9:48 pm I'd rather kill Colin anyways, which is where my vote is going
This isn’t the worst take
It is, in fact, an excellent take
:haha:

PSA for the thread: when I get mislynched, take a gander at the people looking for my easy mislynch right off the bat, for ... “reasons”
The reason is that you’re playing scummy 🤷‍♀️
Ah, well, that settles it then. :nicenod:
Nanook accused him, and Colin waved it off.

Which is fine. I do that.

But we know Nanook the Second was not bad.
ColinIsCool wrote: Sat Feb 29, 2020 1:24 pm See my recent post for why I’m placing a vote on [VOTE: Tony] aubergine for now.
I've been through all of Colin's posts up until this point. I don't know why he's voting for Tony.
ColinIsCool wrote: Sat Feb 29, 2020 1:38 pm I don't town read G-Man, but I don't really scum read him either. He hasn't done anything to distinguish his play other than (what I assume is) getting cursed which is not something of his own doing.
Posts that say nothing to die and go to hell.

I'm stopping there.

This isn't comprehensive, but it's condemning. Also the Tony stuff I was looking for was vague.

Observers: Commence to comment.
by Epignosis
Thu Mar 12, 2020 9:29 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [GAME OVER]
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Views: 258386

Re: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [Day 6]

I voted for speedchuck last night. I don't remember why. I'll change my vote. Probably.
by Epignosis
Thu Mar 12, 2020 8:57 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [GAME OVER]
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Views: 258386

Re: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [Day 6]

tedxtr wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 3:01 am you shading michelle
Why don't you like it?
by Epignosis
Wed Mar 11, 2020 11:26 pm
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Topic: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [GAME OVER]
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Views: 258386

Re: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [Day 6]

juliets wrote: Tue Mar 10, 2020 7:17 pm - Says ted is good -Epi, can you talk about your read on ted? I don't see it that way at this point.
I like the cut of his jib. His posts look reckless and I don't sense an agenda. I gave him shit early on (and later accused him of not responding but he did), and his response didn't sound manufactured to me.
by Epignosis
Wed Mar 11, 2020 11:23 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [GAME OVER]
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Views: 258386

Re: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [Day 6]

Jesus Dom it was yesterday or so. :p
by Epignosis
Wed Mar 11, 2020 11:20 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [GAME OVER]
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Views: 258386

Re: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [Day 6]

Dom wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2020 11:08 pm Someone make a case for a good Ted.
I said why I think ted is good to juliets.
by Epignosis
Wed Mar 11, 2020 11:05 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [GAME OVER]
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Views: 258386

Re: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [Day 6]

I'm going to chase something things..

speedchuck;

Who is bad and who is good?
by Epignosis
Wed Mar 11, 2020 11:04 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [GAME OVER]
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Views: 258386

Re: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [Day 6]

All of a sudden...nobody suspects JJJ?
by Epignosis
Wed Mar 11, 2020 10:57 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [GAME OVER]
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Views: 258386

Re: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [Night 5]

juliets wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2020 10:48 pm
Epignosis wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2020 10:38 pm
juliets wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2020 10:33 pm Why I see Jay as town:

I am not finished refreshing myself on Jay's posts but I am going to stop where I am (Night 2) and list some summary reasons why I am seeing Jay as town. I am sure I will have more as I continue on but this at least gets it started.

* Jay comes out of the shoot poking and prodding at everyone, giving opinions about their answers. He gives opinions of people outside his reads lists. He is constantly asking questions of everyone. This is a hallmark of the civ style I have seen from Jay. Imo all of these behaviors point to him hunting baddies and sharing opinions to try and start bringing together the town. He gives a reads list as early as Day 0 where he gives pluses and minuses. sig, Radish and Mac are all minuses. You only need to read a couple of pages of his ISO to see these behaviors if you want to.

* This is similar but a bit different from the first point. He not only doesn't avoid discussion about people he inserts himself in discussion or starts the discussion. He is involved in everything. And the points he makes seem to me to be thorough and I can't get inside his head but they appear thought through.

* When people town read him or say they trust him he asks for them to explain these reads. IMO he is trying to make sure people are not just throwing cheap reads out or trying to buddy him. There are others that do this, Dom and Epi to name two, and I see it as a civ behavior if done often.

* On Night 1/Day 2 he makes comments about Mac all of which are unfavorable. My point here is not that there is an in depth argument for Mac being bad but that the frequency of posts where he says unfavorable things about Mac is more than someone would do who was trying to distance. I might not have a complete list because I didn't notice the frequency at first but here is what I noted and remember this is just through Day 2:
Spoiler: show
Calls Mac weak for hanging from Jack's balls

Says Mac and his big D are aligned with mafia

Asks Jack: What do you hate most about Mac and his big D?

Says sig shitting all over Mac when he was one posted was Ace.

Says I could Lynch Mac for the crime of being irrelevant

Expands on irrelevant: only one thing he's done, parrot Jack so he had no personal accountability for nutella flip. Left in in Jack's lap.

Says "You're gonna die" when Mac asks someone to give him cliffs

Replies "This sucks" to Mac's post about Dom tunneling him

When ted defends Mac Jay challenges ted

Says he is uninspired by Mac's N1 and asks "why is Mac civilian"

TH asks "why would Mac do x,y,z as scum?" and Jay says "you have just described mafiaosco Mac"

Makes post 2652 on why Mac's reversal on nutella is not a reason to call him civ (sorry I don't know how to link it)

I say Mac is not behaving as he did in Inception where he was bad. Jay says Mac is not binary

Tells Dizzy Mac is not one of those players he would read as civ for saying he would be sad to be lynched (Dizzy asked)

Says to G-Man: ""You seem to be honoring Mac's call for help. This does not make me feel good."
* He does interactive analysis of everyone with Radish and everyone with Mac (I looked ahead to remember if he had done Mac). This is a time intensive endeavor and Jay has told us he is short of time. I don't think a scum Jay would spend this much time trying to help town.

I know you all mostly do not agree with me but this is how I see it through Day 2. I would really like to see what the case against Jay is. I know Epi thinks he sounded phony. It would be nice if someone else who thinks he is bad would explain their thoughts.

I will post more summary thoughts as I go through the rest of his posts. I may be going to bed now but I will answer any questions in the morning.
Let me ask you a question: Have you ever argued JJJ was bad before? If you have experienced bad JJJ, what was it like, and how did it compare to this?

That was several questions I know. I'll consider your view juliets. I don't think you are bad anyway.
I have never argued JJJ was bad. I think I've only played with bad Jay once and I don't remember him being around very much, at least not like normal. I tell you what though, I will look at a bad Jay in a game so I can refresh my memory. Do you know one where he was bad? Also Epi, if you have played with bad Jay I'd be interested in your opinion of how he plays when bad.

@JaggedJimmyJay can you give me a game where you were a baddie?
Yes, I hosted one:

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... =28&t=1051
by Epignosis
Wed Mar 11, 2020 10:47 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [GAME OVER]
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Re: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [Day 6]

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2020 10:46 pm
Sloonei wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2020 10:35 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2020 10:30 pm Oh wait yeah the AM killed last night. He’s only at +1 vote, possibly tied with someone else due to award presenter and very likely behind Agatha.

I say we have two public votes and all privately vote for the most consensus target to override mafia secret vote.
huh?
Antimonitor has -2 votes against him by default. Antimonitor killed last night, giving him +3 votes due to Nanook2's death. This is a net +1 vote.

Award presenter can give +1 or -1 votes against a player.

Agatha gains votes for using actions and can remove them by taking no action.

So the Antimonitor has 1 vote to start, Agatha probably has at least 1 vote to start and another player may have 1 vote to start as well.

So basically, the bodyguard could have given us a free lynch but it didn't. Might help the case of a tie though.
What are you proposing Jack?
by Epignosis
Wed Mar 11, 2020 10:44 pm
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Re: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [Day 6]

[VOTE: Dom] aubergine to see the poll. Will change later.
by Epignosis
Wed Mar 11, 2020 10:41 pm
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Re: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [Day 6]

At least I have some people I feel good about.
by Epignosis
Wed Mar 11, 2020 10:38 pm
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Re: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [Night 5]

juliets wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2020 10:33 pm Why I see Jay as town:

I am not finished refreshing myself on Jay's posts but I am going to stop where I am (Night 2) and list some summary reasons why I am seeing Jay as town. I am sure I will have more as I continue on but this at least gets it started.

* Jay comes out of the shoot poking and prodding at everyone, giving opinions about their answers. He gives opinions of people outside his reads lists. He is constantly asking questions of everyone. This is a hallmark of the civ style I have seen from Jay. Imo all of these behaviors point to him hunting baddies and sharing opinions to try and start bringing together the town. He gives a reads list as early as Day 0 where he gives pluses and minuses. sig, Radish and Mac are all minuses. You only need to read a couple of pages of his ISO to see these behaviors if you want to.

* This is similar but a bit different from the first point. He not only doesn't avoid discussion about people he inserts himself in discussion or starts the discussion. He is involved in everything. And the points he makes seem to me to be thorough and I can't get inside his head but they appear thought through.

* When people town read him or say they trust him he asks for them to explain these reads. IMO he is trying to make sure people are not just throwing cheap reads out or trying to buddy him. There are others that do this, Dom and Epi to name two, and I see it as a civ behavior if done often.

* On Night 1/Day 2 he makes comments about Mac all of which are unfavorable. My point here is not that there is an in depth argument for Mac being bad but that the frequency of posts where he says unfavorable things about Mac is more than someone would do who was trying to distance. I might not have a complete list because I didn't notice the frequency at first but here is what I noted and remember this is just through Day 2:
Spoiler: show
Calls Mac weak for hanging from Jack's balls

Says Mac and his big D are aligned with mafia

Asks Jack: What do you hate most about Mac and his big D?

Says sig shitting all over Mac when he was one posted was Ace.

Says I could Lynch Mac for the crime of being irrelevant

Expands on irrelevant: only one thing he's done, parrot Jack so he had no personal accountability for nutella flip. Left in in Jack's lap.

Says "You're gonna die" when Mac asks someone to give him cliffs

Replies "This sucks" to Mac's post about Dom tunneling him

When ted defends Mac Jay challenges ted

Says he is uninspired by Mac's N1 and asks "why is Mac civilian"

TH asks "why would Mac do x,y,z as scum?" and Jay says "you have just described mafiaosco Mac"

Makes post 2652 on why Mac's reversal on nutella is not a reason to call him civ (sorry I don't know how to link it)

I say Mac is not behaving as he did in Inception where he was bad. Jay says Mac is not binary

Tells Dizzy Mac is not one of those players he would read as civ for saying he would be sad to be lynched (Dizzy asked)

Says to G-Man: ""You seem to be honoring Mac's call for help. This does not make me feel good."
* He does interactive analysis of everyone with Radish and everyone with Mac (I looked ahead to remember if he had done Mac). This is a time intensive endeavor and Jay has told us he is short of time. I don't think a scum Jay would spend this much time trying to help town.

I know you all mostly do not agree with me but this is how I see it through Day 2. I would really like to see what the case against Jay is. I know Epi thinks he sounded phony. It would be nice if someone else who thinks he is bad would explain their thoughts.

I will post more summary thoughts as I go through the rest of his posts. I may be going to bed now but I will answer any questions in the morning.
Let me ask you a question: Have you ever argued JJJ was bad before? If you have experienced bad JJJ, what was it like, and how did it compare to this?

That was several questions I know. I'll consider your view juliets. I don't think you are bad anyway.
by Epignosis
Wed Mar 11, 2020 10:30 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [GAME OVER]
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Views: 258386

Re: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [Day 6]

Sloonei wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2020 10:28 pm
Epignosis wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2020 10:26 pm
Sloonei wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2020 10:22 pm
Epignosis wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2020 10:20 pm Someone ask me something mafia related. Fuck NBA. Fuck hysteria.
JaggedJimmyJay and Turnip Head: what are their alignments?
Anti
Do you mean they are aligned opposite one another, or they are both anti-town? Or something else entirely?
They're not on the same side. I was trying to be funny. Now I must pee. When I come back, I'll tell you more about what I think.
by Epignosis
Wed Mar 11, 2020 10:26 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [GAME OVER]
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Views: 258386

Re: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [Day 6]

Sloonei wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2020 10:22 pm
Epignosis wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2020 10:20 pm Someone ask me something mafia related. Fuck NBA. Fuck hysteria.
JaggedJimmyJay and Turnip Head: what are their alignments?
Anti
by Epignosis
Wed Mar 11, 2020 10:25 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [GAME OVER]
Replies: 8443
Views: 258386

Re: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [Night 5]

Long Con wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2020 10:01 pm
Cataclysm?



The heroes counted themselves lucky to have escaped the awful hellscape of the Anti-Matter universe, even if it had been through the nightmare Dreamscape of the Architect. Back with the Monitor at his fortress base, they were able to take a night and relax, preparing for whatever came next.

Harriet went strolling, humming softly to herself as her cats danced and bumped her legs. Soon, she came to a large door, marked 'ARMORY'. "Oooh," she said to her cats, "I should indeed like to see some fine armour!"

Her cats meowed in protest as she tried to open the door. "Drat it all," she said, frustrated, "Why's it all locked up?" Then an idea came to her - her Monitor-enhanced powers might be just the thing! She focused her pyrokinetics on heating up the large lock, and to her delight, it soon began to melt away!

Harriet clapped her hands as she nudged the hot door open with her foot. Entering the armory, she was surprised to see that it wasn't armour at all! Instead, there were grand weapons of all types, all on display!

She could feel her heart beating faster, as she thought about the grand fires these weapons could create! Her cats yowled and hissed as her hands began to glow.

"Oh my!" cried Harriet, sparks leaping to the various rockets and grenade launchers. As they began to fire, her cats reared up and scratched her legs, fed up with her foolish ways. Harriet cried and fell to the floor, and the cats descended upon her, feral with annoyance. She shrieked as they all were immolated by the chain reaction of explosions, which blew a quarter of the Monitor's base to rubble.

NANOOK has been killed! He was Harriet, a Civilian, from Shockheaded Peter Mafia by Epignosis.

It is now Day 6. Due to the night poll result, there will be two lynches today: one regular, and one by secret vote!
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