The Syndicate

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 9:46 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 9:38 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 9:29 pm Also jay the fact that I’m playing at all during D0 despite having stated I wouldn’t be (we see how long that lasted!), should be a fairly good indicator I’m town. I don’t feel the need to get sucked in quite as much as scum.

In inception you pretty much held back until day 2

I'll talk more about this later, but nanook is playing within his scum meta in everything from tone to posting style.

I literally just played two games with him where he was mafia, one I was indy so didn't care much to hunt and one where I was civ and did. Both times I knew he was mafia, before any information or anything game one i was brushed off and mafia won.

Game 2 it was a mix Epi jumped on and we won the game.

Now having said that during Circut, I believe, before I seriously called him out I skimmed over inception and just did again his playstyle and tone doesn't match inception but matches the other two.

He's being overly aggressive and defensive and honestly way to aggressive for this phase in the game, for the level of commitment I've put into going after him, and for the amount of votes/attention he's getting from everybody.

Only reason he's doing this? Since I again successfully called his alignment and he's pissed off.

If not then he's just a hella toxic player and honestly should be lynched anyway. Though given his last few games I doubt that's the case.

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 9:51 pm Chiefly and I'll pull up quotes from this and other games later either tomorrow or Thursday is that as mafia he gets hella defensive to early and super sarcastic/trolling. Mainly over minor pokes. Like he did here.

He's also in both games, where he was scum, made comments about being mafia/mafia chat. Now this alone isn't the closing. People do that all the time but his reaction to whenever I've brought it up has been exactly the same every game. Read through them if you don't believe me.

@Sloonei @Jackofhearts2005 you two were his teammates in Circuits care to weight in?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 8:38 pm Completely irrelevant, but I want to share this glorious discovery. I have long sought the Holy Grail of sandwich theory: finding a sensible means of including a sub as a sandwich but not a hot dog. This would align with intuitions, but logical structure stands in the way. Consider a historical and evolutionary perspective.

I think that we can somewhat safely assume that the sub came before the hot dog, given that a sub can be comprised of anything within a bread loaf (loaves date back millennia). A hot dog specifically features that meat-thing of processed mystery only made possible by modern industrial ingenuity. So it could be that the hot dog is the offspring of the sub.

However, given the American cultural parallel, it seems equally plausible at least that the hot dog is the offspring of the burger -- another meat-thing-emphasized bread food. As such, perhaps the burger and the sub are a sort of *parents* to the hot dog. If so, and if we accept the burger and the sub as sandwiches then surely the hot dog must be too?

Not so fast. Consider the basics of heredity in biology. The offspring inherits half the genes of each parent, and only the *dominant* genes are expressed. Could it be that the sub and the burger both feature a dominant *sandwich* gene and secondary alternative gene(s)? If so, imagine what happens when each of them passes the ALTERNATIVE gene down to the hot dog.

There is no sandwich gene. It is something else entirely. THIS IS IT.

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 7:16 pm Like am I crazy here or is this a potential slip.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2019 7:05 pm Speculation: juliets could still be a baddie. Nothing except 'she's played well' disqualifies her.

But I don't have the energy nor commitment to look there.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 6:42 pm Okay, serious attempt at self-analysis and then I'm going to bed. (GMT, fyi.)

I've definitely evolved my style over the years, and activity/engagement will vary game to game, but generally as town I rely on analysing votes and wagons (and therefore hate D1/spend it town-clearing more so than anything). I like to re-read the flow of the thread at certain points (e.g. as wagons form/EoDs) rather than ISO individual players, though of course I do that too sometimes. It's time-consuming, though, so when I'm busy (as I am these days) I will rely more on waiting for posts to ping me and then hounding that player.

As scum I'm not afraid to bus to keep up any town cred I've gained, but otherwise try to keep my game simple and sneak into a towncore by trying to play to my town meta. If I don't succeed in that, I'm a fairly useless scummate and quite easy to find. But if I do succeed I'm pretty decent at deepwolfing, I like to think.

As indy I just make it up as I go, as Jay and Sloonei can confirm.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 6:25 pm New poll.

Favourite spread:

-Strawberry jam
-Marmalade
-Peanut Butter
-Marmite
-Vegemite

...think that covers it.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 5:49 pm Sloonei and dizzy both have high mafia equity, but low teammate equity, thus killing one will tell us more about the other as they’re in a non-mechanical 1v1 dipole.

That’s my quota of Serious Mafia Terms for the day, you’re welcome.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 5:48 pm Regarding strong reads, I think civs need to be hyper aggressive this game becasue of this:

Hosts with the most said:


Ghosts

When a player dies, their ghost remains in the thread for three more phases. A ghost may post on-topic thrice-twice-once, in successive phases, in dead-red text. A ghost can claim its Win Condition.

Have you ever had that moment in a game, right after you died, when suddenly, it was all clear. Yeah, we all have. The baddies are gonna have to try harder to be blendy this game becasue of this, not be over aggressive, becasue it's gonna be harder for them to blow off a mislynch with the victim still in the thread. It's gonna be harder for them to just NK people who get up in their grilles if the victim is still in the thread.

I am always a pretty aggressive civ, but I tend to try to hold reads close to the vest becasue I don't want to paint targets on civs or give a baddie the heads up that they are under suspicion; sometimes I like to watch and draw them out, to see if they slip. But I think this is the game for full reads.

I want to see how the Zero poll plays out. Right now I like Nanook, I like sig, I like Nutella. I don't dislike Jules, TH, Jay, or Ted. I am not feeling Chuck so much or Sloonei. Sloonei getting all aggressive with sig rubs me the wrong way, becasue this is something I seem to recall seeing Sloonei doing fairly often, getting in sigs face. It's an easy stance for Sloonei to fall into. My thoughts on Chuck are wrapped up in his poll vote

Most everyone else is gray for me, or someone I am actively waffling about like Jack or G Man. I know G Man is hiding from G Woman, which I know was always a thing with him, but what little he wrote, meh. So him and Jack aren't really grey, but I could go either way. Some of the gray people, like Epi, Mac, and Tranq, are people I like to sort early, but it's Zero, so

I don't think I played with Michelle before; I did play with Dyslexicon, but not enough to have a basis of comparison.

I also see that Dom, Colin, Dragomir and Sabie have not checked in yet.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:56 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 5:14 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 3:32 pm Well that's a nice mark, Sloonei.

Yeah I have to say I mindmeld there too. Sig claiming "people" are forming a town core is hella sketch. Like he knows who's town (k technically it's multiball but still) and is scurred of any perceived town coalescing.

There are two mafia teams. This is silly.

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 5:14 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 3:32 pm Well that's a nice mark, Sloonei.

Yeah I have to say I mindmeld there too. Sig claiming "people" are forming a town core is hella sketch. Like he knows who's town (k technically it's multiball but still) and is scurred of any perceived town coalescing.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 3:48 pm

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:01 am Tex/Michelle are my early town read
Jay and nanook early meh reada

1) tedxtr is town

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 8:27 pm On page four. Apparently I have to go play Clue because my family thinks they can beat me.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 2:33 am

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 2:30 am Fun fact, I'm the only player whose username can also be an ice cream flavor. I think this means I win day zero

You'd think so, but radish & turnip flavored ice cream is heavenly.

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 2:30 am Fun fact, I'm the only player whose username can also be an ice cream flavor. I think this means I win day zero

tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 1:54 am
Epi was awkward in his exchange with J and you have good tone

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 12:31 am There you have it, gang.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 12:28 am Epignosis is a confirmed mafia teammate of nutella.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 12:25 am nutella is mafia for writing in complete sentences.

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Feb 24, 2020 11:46 pm Sounds nasty.