The Syndicate

I'm actually happy that Jay won. He needed that boost given his streak. I mean that in all sincerity. I realize he was bad, but so what- he's a good player.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2019 11:53 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2019 11:49 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2019 11:45 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2019 11:38 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2019 11:01 pm Y'all are raising good points about the composition of an ideal civilian. I have a five-pronged image now:

1) Make good reads / have good instincts (the dunyas and Macs)

2) Pursue those reads in such a manner that others will be compelled to follow (the Jays and Goldens)

3) Avoid the noose (the Epis)

4) Promote a thread climate conducive to effective hunting (the Slooneis and MPs)

5) Know when to play the role of the follower (numerous)
Sounds impossible.
I do all those things all the time.
Then why are you only shown as an example for one of the numbers but not all?
Epi signs up for 5 games at a time and does one of these things in each of them.

There's a sixth thing that only me and my doctor know about.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2019 11:49 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2019 11:45 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2019 11:38 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2019 11:01 pm Y'all are raising good points about the composition of an ideal civilian. I have a five-pronged image now:

1) Make good reads / have good instincts (the dunyas and Macs)

2) Pursue those reads in such a manner that others will be compelled to follow (the Jays and Goldens)

3) Avoid the noose (the Epis)

4) Promote a thread climate conducive to effective hunting (the Slooneis and MPs)

5) Know when to play the role of the follower (numerous)
Sounds impossible.
I do all those things all the time.
Then why are you only shown as an example for one of the numbers but not all?

Because Jay sucks at recognizing talent.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2019 11:38 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2019 11:01 pm Y'all are raising good points about the composition of an ideal civilian. I have a five-pronged image now:

1) Make good reads / have good instincts (the dunyas and Macs)

2) Pursue those reads in such a manner that others will be compelled to follow (the Jays and Goldens)

3) Avoid the noose (the Epis)

4) Promote a thread climate conducive to effective hunting (the Slooneis and MPs)

5) Know when to play the role of the follower (numerous)
Sounds impossible.

I do all those things all the time.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2019 11:21 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2019 11:16 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2019 11:13 pm Like, my whole Civilian Doctrine is about functioning as a team. A vigilante is the antithesis of that. It's one player tasked with eliminating another player on their own.

Whenever I'm a vigilante or have a gun I try to make it a public decision as best I can. If info dumping is allowed I just tell everyone I've got a gun and ask who I should shoot.
Mafia gets a say in that though.

I hated this particular vigilante spot because I'm required to act on a certain night. That sucks. I can't hold my shot until I'm ready. I'm like that guy in American Pie.
They do, but mafia has a say in everything that happens in the thread so they've already influenced me before I start waving my gun around. And telling people I'm packing heat produces some valuable reactions.

That's true.

dunya wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2019 11:26 pm I love the sopranos. Cried when it was over.

Bet you thought your TV went out.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2019 11:13 pm Like, my whole Civilian Doctrine is about functioning as a team. A vigilante is the antithesis of that. It's one player tasked with eliminating another player on their own.

Whenever I'm a vigilante or have a gun I try to make it a public decision as best I can. If info dumping is allowed I just tell everyone I've got a gun and ask who I should shoot.

Mafia gets a say in that though.

I hated this particular vigilante spot because I'm required to act on a certain night. That sucks. I can't hold my shot until I'm ready. I'm like that guy in American Pie.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2019 11:12 pm I love being a vigilante. Such power. In the absence of a better idea I usually just shoot a lurker. It can be a great weapon though to use against someone who is good at getting out of lynches. I'm glad DDL wasn't a vigilante.

I only ever considered shooting you for fun.

I should have had fun.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2019 11:11 pm Vigilante is that role you add because it makes large games end faster but it doesn't actually help its faction as much.

I don't object to them- I just hate playing as them. I hate fucking up a teammate's game.

And I do agree this setup is shit.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2019 11:09 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2019 11:06 pm My least favorite role is the vigilante by the way. I cannot use it effectively. I shot Jack and knew it was stupid but I felt if I didn't, I'd have him on my ass all game.
Completely agree. Vigilante is such a volatile role. I don't like it. Hosting a game with two of them was an unpleasant sensation.

At least I took my chances and didn't shoot Drag, which would have been a failure as well. So there's that.

My least favorite role is the vigilante by the way. I cannot use it effectively. I shot Jack and knew it was stupid but I felt if I didn't, I'd have him on my ass all game.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2019 10:35 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2019 10:33 pm "I don't think Epi is going to actually attempt to get me lynched. He rarely actually tries to push wagons. He just takes potshots and then complains when people don't agree. " -Mac

This guy.

"I don't think Epi is going to actually attempt to get me lynched. He rarely actually tries to push wagons. He just takes potshots and then complains when people don't agree. " -Mac

This guy.

I didn't read anything after I died. All I knew was this:

Epi is dead.
JJJ is alive.
JJJ is bad.
QED

I can hang with JJJ.

JJJ can't hang with me.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 11:21 pm bbl getting ripped off at my local fitness center

Fixed.

I have a lovely long list of people I don't suspect.

That's nice.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 12:54 amHoly shit

If you haven't visited that website before, have fun.

This is brilliance:

https://pbfcomics.com/comics/the-offenders/

The bird comics suck. I'm sorry. They aren't funny. They'e shit.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 12:37 am Do you realise that I take pride in the fact that I am actually a leader? Like irl in my job? You probably don't, but that's probably a good reason why you shouldn't just say dumb bullshit like that because you don't know what the fuck you are talking about.

I bet you're drunk right now.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 12:36 am Like why is attacking me like that called for? Why do you feel the need to play the game with such a bad attitude?

I am sorry. I didn't mean to hurt your feelings. You talk shit so I thought I could talk shit.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 12:35 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 12:35 am Mac, I frankly don't give a toss what you have to say about me. You do what you want. You lack the leadership skills to rally anybody to actually lynch me, so I'm not scared of you.
You are such a fuckwit sometimes.

I'm amazing I know.

Mac, I frankly don't give a toss what you have to say about me. You do what you want. You lack the leadership skills to rally anybody to actually lynch me, so I'm not scared of you.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 12:29 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 12:13 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 12:09 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 11:43 pm
Luxurious wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 11:42 pm I’m not sure I’m gonna stay on Dragomir until EoD but like, alright I guess
My problem with Dragomir is the insistence that DDL (or anybody) is bad.

To me DDL is a civilian.
how

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:54 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:38 pm Please let's lynch DDL. There's not a speck of townie on him.

-Opportunistic jump on speedchuchk's bait and according from others, chuck is renowned as someone who hates no lynching so I'm not understanding how he doesn't see it as a joke.

-His post explaining why there could be a reason for wanting to no lynch is illogical in itself and a big contradiction to his previous actions. Not to note, he completely ignored it and is trying something now against Novas.

-His retreat after being confronted for his vote on Chuck was just bad. It just reeked of trying to appear better after realizing how bad they looked for what they did. This kinda self-awareness is very much from a scum POV and him admitting to it ain't really that much either as something so obvious, you're better off admitting then trying to find excuses.

-Now he's making a rather weak case against Novas, coming to this conclusion from Mac calling him out. Seems like the dude was trying to make a meta read that didn't work. Mans trying to get some town cred after doing much of nothing else huh? It ain't working fam.
These are all reasons I view DDL as a good little boy.

The strength of your civilian read lies in observing the same things that Dragomir finds scummy, as not scummy?

I don't believe that you could formulate a strong civilian read on DDL based on just this. Do you have more?

No. Go play with yourself.

I approve of the direction of this poll all around.

(Mike Trout is not game relevant. Sorry).

MIKE TROUT!

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 12:09 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 11:43 pm
Luxurious wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 11:42 pm I’m not sure I’m gonna stay on Dragomir until EoD but like, alright I guess
My problem with Dragomir is the insistence that DDL (or anybody) is bad.

To me DDL is a civilian.
how

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:54 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:38 pm Please let's lynch DDL. There's not a speck of townie on him.

-Opportunistic jump on speedchuchk's bait and according from others, chuck is renowned as someone who hates no lynching so I'm not understanding how he doesn't see it as a joke.

-His post explaining why there could be a reason for wanting to no lynch is illogical in itself and a big contradiction to his previous actions. Not to note, he completely ignored it and is trying something now against Novas.

-His retreat after being confronted for his vote on Chuck was just bad. It just reeked of trying to appear better after realizing how bad they looked for what they did. This kinda self-awareness is very much from a scum POV and him admitting to it ain't really that much either as something so obvious, you're better off admitting then trying to find excuses.

-Now he's making a rather weak case against Novas, coming to this conclusion from Mac calling him out. Seems like the dude was trying to make a meta read that didn't work. Mans trying to get some town cred after doing much of nothing else huh? It ain't working fam.
These are all reasons I view DDL as a good little boy.

I'm tired and have to work tomorrow. I will not be available until close to time to vote for realies. If there is anything anybody wants from me now, speak.

Understood.

Luxurious wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 11:48 pm We should just lynch mp7 today

No thanks. We have Ultra as bad. I'd rather see speedchuck lynched.

You name MP7.

Why not Tsaiah?

Mac's vote for me is lazy.

I hate him precious.

Luxurious wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 11:42 pm I’m not sure I’m gonna stay on Dragomir until EoD but like, alright I guess

My problem with Dragomir is the insistence that DDL (or anybody) is bad.

To me DDL is a civilian.

Luxurious wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 11:38 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 11:36 pm Luxurious, you have my vote this round. Where you vote, I will vote.
Uh I’m on Dragomir atm just because I think he’s very reachy for towncred and hasnt actually been interacting with his reads at all.

He also really wanted town cred for that one post that was stuff I figured I already said. Still waiting for info about his switch on Owner based off claims because it was... weird, to say the least

I already voted there too. Sometimes my utility is in backing up people I believe are good instead of trying to get my own way.

I simply have no time or strength for my own convictions, but I can support those I view as civilians.

Luxurious, you have my vote this round. Where you vote, I will vote.

Fuck it. I don't know what I saw. I'm tired.

I saw something else. Stand by.

Do me a solid then Luxurious:

Who has claimed what?

No offense intended by that.

I'm glad I'm old. You all are weird.

I'm old.

I can't keep you people straight. It's all cute avatars and cats and people who look like cats.

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 11:19 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 9:48 pm That said, let me get this straight:

Owner claimed watcher and said Luxurious targeted JJJ.

Luxurious claimed jailer and said JJJ was in jail.

Nobody died.

Is that correct?
I'm not a watcher for crying out loud. Could someone please read up on roles so that you actually know what you are talking about?

It isn't a matter of reading up on the roles. I wrote your name and meant Gemma.

Luxurious wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 11:13 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 11:07 pm
Luxurious wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 11:06 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 11:02 pm
Luxurious wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 10:58 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 10:56 pm
Luxurious wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 10:55 pm

Why did you feel the need to post your mafia thought process?
It's a code, not a thought process.
Okay then why did you feel the need to tell everyone your code. I just dont see how you connected those dots to need to post this
You misunderstand.

I don't feel the need to discuss any of that. I do it because if people who know me have any sense, they'll know I'm telling the truth and trust me and encourage others to do the same. It would save everybody a lot of time.

Mac is slow though, so I can't speak for him.
So the point is lost on me I see I see
What was the purpose of your asking me the question then?
I dont see the point of you posting it. It’s kinda random, you’re not really up for a wagon, and you havent come under hard suspicion up to that point.

I just dont see a reason as to why you felt the need to make that statement

Two reasons.

First, I believe in narrowing the suspect pool down as much as possible. If people can do that and be honest with their assessments and objections, then civilians have a better chance.

Second, I think if regulars here can get over themselves and recognize a sign that clears me (i.e., that I do not kill JJJ Night 1), it will give new people here a chance to direct their efforts to more fruitful endeavors.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 11:15 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 10:02 pm Consider this too:

Killing JJJ Night 1 in this particular setup is a rookie mistake.

If there is a civilian watcher, a civilian tracker, and a civilian jailer, and you know this, then taking a shot at the most active person who just nailed Ultra is not very wise. I would have advised against such a thing myself.

So that directs me to consider who is not wise or not paying attention to the setup.
At the time that Epi posted this DDL was equal vote leader. DDL is not a "rookie". I think this post is a very clever way of deconstructive the DDL suspicion before it takes off.

You can see how it's bullshit because he is now, even though he made this post, pushing a speedchuck wagon. Speedchuck is a very regular player on these forums. So if he genuinely believed what he wrote here, why is he pushing suspicion against speedchuck?

Epi is bad. Kill it with fire.

DDL is not bad. Now what?

I want speedchuck discussed. Please and thank you.

I want a speedchuck lynch.

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