The Syndicate

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 12:13 am Also there is no such thing as JJJ letting himself get lynched. I fought as hard as I could to prevent that, but them's the breaks.

Second dumbest lynch in the game.

Excellent comeback nova. A tip of the tail.

What is this? If a cat gets lynched, there's no need for anybody to be cleared.

I'll say this much:

I don't think lynching JJJ ends this.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Oct 19, 2019 1:42 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Oct 19, 2019 1:38 pm
Rej wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:29 pm wait, Epignosis is also playing?

just looked at Long Con. He went like -> interaction with JJJ/push against Dragomir -> distancing(?)
Long Con did you distance yourself there?
This post.

Rej is bad, and ultimately voted for LC based on this "just looked at" post. He asked if LC was distancing from Dragomir. That accusation only has fuel if Dragomir is bad.
Or if I'm bad?

Not possible because there's only three cats and two are accounted for.

Rej wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:58 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:46 pm Rej, as far as I am concerned your vote is on Dragomir right now. You're exploring ideas and asking questions, but the day is over in less than 40 minutes. Who do you want to lynch?

I have my vote nowhere for exactly such a moment. We can agree on doing the Long Con gamble lynch. Else my lynch would be wasted on others I feel, in a sense that we can't get enough votes maybe.
So my vote on Long Con should be bringing us forward.
[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

Gonna take a smoke, gonna check all 5 minute instances.

Rej would rather "gamble" on the secondary suspect (LC) than lynch the primary one (Dragomir).

Rej wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:29 pm wait, Epignosis is also playing?

just looked at Long Con. He went like -> interaction with JJJ/push against Dragomir -> distancing(?)
Long Con did you distance yourself there?

This post.

Rej is bad, and ultimately voted for LC based on this "just looked at" post. He asked if LC was distancing from Dragomir. That accusation only has fuel if Dragomir is bad.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 11:20 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 11:07 am speedchuck, why Rej?
Because not Dragomir. Dragomir's current play feels scummy, but doesn't make much sense as scumplay on further reflection.

I buy Dragomir's response to pressure better than Rej's. Rej has been on edge since the first time he was prodded.

Rej wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 4:07 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 3:35 am @Rej what is your absolute favorite thing ever about sprityo in this here game thread?
Gimme a break I cant ISO posts on mobile, can I?
Felt like a disproportionate reaction, hardly worth noting at the time. But it's escalated to the point that he has a vote on you, and that read doesn't seem genuine. He's banking all of his analysis on the one Persona game, which is fallacious as heck. "JJJ isn't doing things exactly like he did in P5" is not a case, it's a justification.

Is it too much of a stretch to say that speedchuck was not throwing Rej under the bus as much as he was trying to keep a more powerful kitty role in play?

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sat Oct 19, 2019 12:58 pm You know what, I'ma vote Jay. I really want to see what he flips. Nothing against you Jay.

It's 9-1. The mindset of a civilian right now should be, "I need to figure out who the last cat is so I can be done reading this."

The species checker role is all but moot at this point.

What are you going to do with Jay's role if he is not a cat?

What the hell did I just read?

Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Oct 19, 2019 2:44 am
nutella wrote: ↑Sat Oct 19, 2019 2:32 am Assumption 2 is based on a false premise. "Mislynch bait" my doggy ass.
i like the tone here no matter JJJ's alignament she is sassy and i saw scum Nutella sweeter and non confrontational.

nutella = sassy
Epignosis = rude

That's my time. See you in the morning.

1- Dom - Okay
2- Dragomir - Mafia
3- Epignosis - Wino
4- Fayt - Mafia
5- JaggedJimmyJay - Needs a Team of Editors (and now apparently a chauffeur)
6- Long Con - Cool
7- MacDougall - Cool
8- Michelle - Badmaybe
9- novaselinenever - Good as Biscuits and Gravy
10- nutella - Depends on Walrus

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2019 9:08 pm I can actually clear myself (as much as one can in a setup like this). I just ask that people listen to what I say when I explain this later. It will involve numerous posts so I want my computer.

At a computer yet?

I'll go back and read your Fayt stuff tomorrow.

Skipping JJJ essays again.

Also, fuck you for lynching sprityo over nothing. Just got to that part.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Oct 19, 2019 1:04 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Oct 19, 2019 12:53 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:41 pm
Most importantly, if I am either lynched or shot before Day 3 begins:

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ensure that the pace of the game does not stagnate. I have more than 3x the post count of the next highest person -- this is not a boast, it is just a fact. That means that when I am gone, the primary engine driving the game is gone. A new engine will need to be installed. Please step up and make it happen. There have been too many cases in recent memory where games have completely taken a crap as soon as I die. Don't let it happen here.
This drives me up the wall. You have three times the post count of the next highest person because you suck at editing. Edit your thoughts down to exactly what needs to be said. Stop filling the thread with whatever. MP used to do the same thing. It doesn't make you a better player. It just shows you're a bad writer.
No. Kiss my ass.

Editing my thoughts down any more than *I want to edit them down* neuters what I do. I just said I am not talking about being a “good” player (whatever that means) in that very post, so that bitching is meaningless to me.

You hate catching up when you’re short on time. That’s understandable. If I am too accommodating in that arena, I think my team suffers. We’ve been through this before and I just don’t give a damn if it drives you up the wall. Get over it.

Murder your darlings.

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2019 5:15 pm JJJ you sure are a fast typer.

I am curious how many cats you'll find until my morning. I am for sure cat in your eyes because this time i have zero interactions with the flipped mafia hence there should be distancing.
No more case for me, here you have it.
*Swags tail
woof!

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 3:23 pm I hope Mac and Epi can make it in to chat a little before the deadline

Never going to happen during the work week.

Fayt wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:43 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:29 pm I think the case against LC is poor. This isn’t uncertainty or doubt like with Rej D1, it’s just a perception that the case is *bad*. Rej’s voting behavior makes very little sense if LC is his teammate.

Dragomir could be for the refused vote. Rej waited around for a different wagon to blossom though, and it ended up being LC by no manipulation of his own. He plopped his vote on there without a care. The whole “it was coordinated distancing” spiel does not hold water for me.

I also think LC is behaving like a civilian.
hmmmmm......

ugh. I guess it doesn't make sense as to why Rej would place a vote on a teammate that late in the day. If that was the wagon he decides to go on but not on Dragomir or Mac despite him voicing his suspicion on them... In that case, I would like to look at Dragomir again. I had a neutral read but dismissed it due to meta reading off of his posts.

I might be overthinking that its some 4d chess play with Rej and LC.

This sounds like garbage to me. By now Fayt should have some concrete opinions, not "ugh. I guess it doesn't make sense."

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:41 pm
Most importantly, if I am either lynched or shot before Day 3 begins:

Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please

ensure that the pace of the game does not stagnate. I have more than 3x the post count of the next highest person -- this is not a boast, it is just a fact. That means that when I am gone, the primary engine driving the game is gone. A new engine will need to be installed. Please step up and make it happen. There have been too many cases in recent memory where games have completely taken a crap as soon as I die. Don't let it happen here.

This drives me up the wall. You have three times the post count of the next highest person because you suck at editing. Edit your thoughts down to exactly what needs to be said. Stop filling the thread with whatever. MP used to do the same thing. It doesn't make you a better player. It just shows you're a bad writer.

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:32 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:29 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:24 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:04 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 1:49 pm How acts Long Con?
What defines you as either alignament?

Who are in your Poe?
I act how I act. I don't do a lot of Mafia self-reflection, I just say what comes to my mind. I'm pretty laid-back, but I can start throwing things around at times when the level of ignoring me gets high enough.

I don't have a POE.
If you are villager and I can't see you villager i will be very sad because that means i am an idiot voting for you.
How come you don't have a Poe. I am voting you. Am i a good one?
You are voting. The one you're voting is not in your Poe?
Using Process of Elimination is just one of many methods of playing this game. It's not my method.

If one is an idiot for being unable to tell who's mafia and who's villager with every vote, then I guess we're all idiots. Right? I don't get why you would be so hard on yourself for being unable to easily put me in a category.
I have to find out asap if my vote is on mafia or town. I need to know. I hate to mislynch a fellow townie.

Why is Michelle so focused on LC? There is no drive present to get everyone else correct. Why just LC?

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:24 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:04 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 1:49 pm How acts Long Con?
What defines you as either alignament?

Who are in your Poe?
I act how I act. I don't do a lot of Mafia self-reflection, I just say what comes to my mind. I'm pretty laid-back, but I can start throwing things around at times when the level of ignoring me gets high enough.

I don't have a POE.
If you are villager and I can't see you villager i will be very sad because that means i am an idiot voting for you.
How come you don't have a Poe. I am voting you. Am i a good one?
You are voting. The one you're voting is not in your Poe?

This looks phony as hell to me.

Michelle gets a downgrade for me.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 3:31 am We are all glad to see TH back. Great guy. You're insulting him with this "I'd never kill him" shit though. When you're a wolf your commitment is to your team and win con. If TH is a perceived threat each and every one of you shoot the fucked. He's a lifer. He's not gonna drop off the face of the Earth just because he cops a bullet after helping is lynch a wolf on day 1. What do you think he doesn't know what to expect here?

All of you saying you wouldn't shoot him are at best lame as fuck.

That's why I'm sitting at home, playing Mafia on the Internet on a Friday night.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:59 am I take pride in my ability to extract abstraction from text. I once proposed, facetiously, a job in which I am responsible for mediating between messengers in dating sites/apps to help people avoid silly misinterpretation and miss obvious cues. I wonder why I never got that job.

People realized masturbation was quicker and more satisfying than reading your reports?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2019 10:54 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2019 10:42 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 1:12 am
sprityo wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 1:11 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 1:10 am Meanwhile can I get some more feedback about sprityo please? I don't think anyone said anything but Dom.
ive said approximately nothing and done approximately nothing

any other questions?
To be true I am not sure you can say much. It's about Rej's treatment of you.

It's good to see you anyway sprityo. It's been a fun Day 2. You should take a dip and see what you think.
sprityo got lynched because of that?

So you played into Rej's hands.
I made a judgment and it was wrong. I don’t give a shit. Making a case on sprityo himself is impossible when he has no posts. Credit to Rej for the errant lead.

There’s a good chance you’re playing into speedchuck’s hands when you raise that “can they both be mafia?” post regarding Dragomir.

We see posts from confirmed cats and we interpret them. That’s the game.

I'm not playing into anything. I'm barely playing. I get about one or two hours of free time per day anymore. I'm losing my shit.

I have a minor reason to think Long Con is a civilian.

Page 19. Jesus. I hate all of you.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 1:12 am
sprityo wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 1:11 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 1:10 am Meanwhile can I get some more feedback about sprityo please? I don't think anyone said anything but Dom.
ive said approximately nothing and done approximately nothing

any other questions?
To be true I am not sure you can say much. It's about Rej's treatment of you.

It's good to see you anyway sprityo. It's been a fun Day 2. You should take a dip and see what you think.

sprityo got lynched because of that?

So you played into Rej's hands.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 1:10 am Meanwhile can I get some more feedback about sprityo please? I don't think anyone said anything but Dom.

He's a civilian what got lynched Day 2.

I don't know what yesterday's votes looked like.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2019 7:47 pm Well ho-lee sweet hell we’re all over the place.

Like dogs.

I've read nothing since the last time I was here.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 10:56 pm Can drago and Rej both be bad?

This looks on the nose.

I am going to have a go.

At the toilet.

And then bed.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:20 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:20 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 4:06 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 4:05 pm bleh [VOTE: Rej] aubergine
But Michelle says Rej is Civ.
I am going to veto a Long Con lynch.

This post here is not Rej's teammate.
What are you talking about, that is literally him using a third party to try to hard defend Rej? That's like the most teammate indicative shit ever lol.

It isn't Long Con though.

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 4:06 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 4:05 pm bleh [VOTE: Rej] aubergine
But Michelle says Rej is Civ.

I am going to veto a Long Con lynch.

This post here is not Rej's teammate.

My vote is likely going to JJJ or Dragomir.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:06 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:04 am Dragomir has my vote currently.
Why would Dragomir kill someone advocating for him?

People do stupid shit.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:04 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:00 am @Epignosis I think that Jay is just about the only person who WOULD kill TH in that slot based on how TH was playing. I think you may be right about him after all.
I don't kill Turnip Head in his first game back here in 900 years either. Believe me or don't, I don't care. My first priority is always the website, and Turnip Head is a major part of it.

I'm glad to hear you say that. I believe that.

Dragomir has my vote currently.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:56 pm TonyStarkPrime is a big civilian read of mine. After Persona 5, the difference cannot be greater. Almost literally. TonyStarkPrime, I very much look forward to your input when you have the time. No worries, I understand life and stuff.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 11:58 am Alternative wagons are available, but they're underwhelming by definition. I have these people:

Fayt
sprityo
TSP

I don't feel any confidence calling them civilians. They also have < 5 posts, so.

[VOTE: nutella] aubergine can go ahead and answer my beefs.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:32 pm At this rate I am frankly inclined to lynch a low poster. I've the most active suspicion of Fayt among them. I hate lynching newcomers on Day 1; I'll do what I think is best though. I feel no obligation to keep sprityo or TSP alive either.

Glad to see you spiraling out of control.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:53 pm Speedchuck's someone who I've also been mulling over. His Drago stuff is also in the same veins as Dom, he was shadowing people there and the progression of off him was a little too easy. Also I'm not sure how he ended up on Rej. There was no real conviction behind it or a push at all

I have a suspicion of speedchuck also.

JJJ is bad. I assure it.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:47 pm Epignosis is probably a dog. I am juggling around thoughts to the contrary in my brain, and the one that I find recurring is "Epi is cranky about last game and wants to mislynch me this time", which is

I'm not surprised he suspects me given the content in discussion, and I don't find it inauthentic.

That assumes that I think about you from one game to another.

I can assure you that I don't.

Facts:

JJJ gave Rej a bunch of shit. Did not vote there.
JJJ voted LC, whom he called good that same Day.

What else am I supposed to do with this?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:45 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:42 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:37 pm
Dom wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:35 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:34 pm I don't think Epi's case on Jay holds much water at all. Nothing that was pointed out is outside of Jay's town play. It's still a mild town tick for Epi though. I still think Jay is town.
I largely agree. I think it just means that Jay's analysis isn't fool proof.
Jay is allowed to be wrong if he is town. He'll corner the wolves and squeeze them out eventually.
Never knew Mac to suck Jay's dictionary so hard.
I am trying something new as opposed to the obligatory Jay vs. Mac shit fight that eventually ends after going nowhere. You should try it. I wanna see if just working with Jay is productive.

Or I can look at what JJJ as done and judge is as shit. As I have done.

I think JJJ is the way to go. I do not find him civilian at all.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:37 pm
Dom wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:35 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:34 pm I don't think Epi's case on Jay holds much water at all. Nothing that was pointed out is outside of Jay's town play. It's still a mild town tick for Epi though. I still think Jay is town.
I largely agree. I think it just means that Jay's analysis isn't fool proof.
Jay is allowed to be wrong if he is town. He'll corner the wolves and squeeze them out eventually.

Never knew Mac to suck Jay's dictionary so hard.

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