The Syndicate

Golden wrote:@Eloh - that was how Epi did it in Roger Rabbit and it was great. I worked so hard to earn the

And then I went and voweled myself out.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:I refused to vote on such bullshit.

Admit it, you wish you had won.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Turnip Head wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Ricochet wrote:I mean, com'on, he's Drugs. He can't do shit until N15. That's enough time to even lynch JJJ out of fun.

I've been lynched twice ever as a townie and when this game is over the number will still be two.

It was hilarious. At one point in the Spectator Chat, I was the only person who thought you were civ

Grats winners and well played everyone! This was a fun game to follow along and spectate on. I sort of trailed off toward the end but tried to at least skim, and I can say that everyone played amazingly.

Also, this was true! Based on the atmosphere in the spectator chat and thread, I really thought JJJ was going to be lynched. I was gone for a while though, and then I came to the thread and saw seaside had the most votes and was like "WTF"?

Epignosis wrote:Hey 3J.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Massive props/thanks to Epignosis, who's legacy was a massive impact after his death.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Oh damn, just realized it's Day 9. Whoever that role is: you're rocking this game.

Russtifinko wrote:My girlfriend is visiting me this weekend, and I'm planning on proposing to her..

Matt F wrote:I do spitball quite frequently and I apologize if that upsets you.

As you have seen, btw, whenever I do post a "Let's lynch this person, guys!", it doesn't work out. I wanted MacDougall Day 5, we lynched espers instead. Wanted Floyd Day 7, we lynched seaside. I did want Sorsha for several days, and I do apologize for that one, but even then, I doubt it was because I asked for it. So in that regard, what is your problem with it? It's not as if I'm leading lynches here and getting civilians killed. That was you on Day 7 when 3J was pretty much done for, and you started the train on seaside.

Matt F wrote:So yes, even if YOU don't like it Epig, my suspicions on who are bad are staying consistent.

Matt F wrote:

Epignosis wrote:Matt, I'm going to level with you.

If you are a civilian, you stink.

You load the thread with inconsistent things. 3J and I are scum buddies yesterday and Rico's gotta be lynched next.

Bottom line:

No one takes you seriously.

There's a reason for that. You are all over the place.

There's nothing wrong with having multiple suspicions. Nothing at all, really. I've also spoken, frequently btw, on who I believe to be civvie or anti-mafia in this game, it isn't simply pointing fingers. Who do you find suspicious, Epignosis? Do you have any ideas or do you just plan on tearing people down who do?

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:No one takes you seriously.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:you're interpretation

Oh FFS. Really? Epi, please enroll me in your class.

You don't want it this week. I literally had a kid start stabbing his textbook with a pencil. He's the size of linebacker too.

Also, my classroom phone hasn't worked in a year.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Ricochet wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Rico, what do you think of this:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Matt's trust in bcornett actually makes me think of something. This might have already been covered a time or five so sorry if it's old news but:

Brian was the counterwagon to LC on Day 2. LC voted for him in an 8-6 tally, meaning the real tally was 8-8 (barring other vote manipulation). LC can't bus his team mate in Brian in this scenario, because players would still be able to identify that the Flowers role was involved in getting him lynched.

Does this not clear bcornett, or come pretty close to that?

I feel this aspect is still open to interpretation, because:

a) LC's vote on b24 was his only lifeline left
b) except if Epig is bad, there was no genuine scumwagon on b24

If b) would be proven in any way thus far, then a) would sound like a logical move for LC to attempt, and b24 would be, as you say, closer to being cleared.

This is the hiccup for me: even if bcornett was the only viable counterwagon for LC, by placing his vote on bcornett LC placed him in real lynch territory. If Brian is mafia, then LC would have bussed his team mate and exposed his own role in that wagon -- potentially causing the loss of two mafia instead of just one.

If I'm LC in that situation and the only viable counterwagon is my team mate, I might strongly consider voting off-wagons and sacrificing myself.

Diiny wrote:Proposers of the cleared brian theory, pls respond to that: how would it have been obvious that it was flowers fuckery rather than anything else? Am I missing something?

The final tally was 8-6 LC over bcornett. LC's vote made it 8-8 -- enough for a coin flip. LC's role was the only role that had enough power to even the tally at that point in the game save for Drugs (couldn't have been Drugs or Brian would be dead). Unless I'm missing something.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I think I have to acknowledge that "????? killed Elohcin" might be actual evidence of an unseen anti-town faction, maybe recruitment-relevant or maybe not. I don't understand why a civilian killer would go after Elo, a consensus town read.

Unless it's somehow connected to the *secrets* in sig's role, but who knows.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Night 7: The Girls Want to Be Dead with the Girls

Roxy has been modkilled for inactivity. She was Girlfriend Is Better.
fingersplints has been killed by ?????. She was Once in a Lifetime.


It is still Night 7. Send in those PMs.

Russtifinko wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:I'm voting Bullzeye for right now.

I'm reading your Bullzeye post now.

How about RadicalFuzz?

Linki: Russ, I didn't intend to call Epignosis stupid. I was taking a popular idiom and inserting Epignosis's name into it.

Yeah, I know. I meant you were trolling me by agreeing with him. Unless you actually do....which would be weird, given my point that he didn't actually say anything to indicate a suspicion, and then waited 3.5 hours, 13 posts, and 1 case against Mac to saying anything further about him.

Linki: Right, sorry, I forgot to give you your proper due for arguing in circles with him on Day 6 and then claiming you got him lynched.

I said in my post at 8-ish pm that Tuesday that he, and I quote, "look[ed] really bad to me". Doesn't preclude me having other suspects as well. I would hope you have more than one suspect so far, and I certainly do. You sure as shit didn't convince me of anything regarding Macdougall, and you should stop parading that around like you're God's gift to civs. That's only in your head, where you ARE God. If anyone is spinning this, it's you, and you're doing it to get civ cred that you aren't due.

Russtifinko wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Russtifinko wrote:Linki: Epi, regardless, facts are facts. I got there first; stop saying you did.

I didn't say I got there first. I said I got the job done.

Also false, though. I cast the last vote on Mac, and he "won" the lynch 7-6. Stop trying to take sole credit when numerous other people contributed. It makes you look far more civ than you deserve to.

You, can't ever be wrong, can you? It's a pretty unfortunate trait.

Russtifinko wrote:Placeholder on BR for now. Could be convinced to go with Mac today, or, to a lesser extent, Epi.

Russtifinko wrote:Linki: Epi, regardless, facts are facts. I got there first; stop saying you did.

Russtifinko wrote:This isn't germane to today's lynch, but needs to be brought up. Epi has, in very strong language, twice claimed credit for the Mac lynch:

Epignosis wrote:You are willing to lynch me based on the alignment of two players that remain a mystery to you, after Long Con, MacDougall, and Black Rock have all turned out to be bad (and I called out two of the three).

Epignosis wrote:Hey Matt: I fucking handed MacDougall to you. And I'm on a team with 3J now? Get some reality in your head, mate.

However, these claims are overstated.

I was the first one to "call out" McDougall, at 8:07 on Tuesday, October 13th:

Spoiler: show

Russtifinko wrote:So before my recent catch-up read I was with JJJ in thinking Macdougall looked to be one of towniest aroundiest. After today I'm not so sure, though...

MacDougall wrote:I think we really have to lynch sorsha. I feel like it's the key to breaking the game open today. She either flips scum and leaves behind a tasty breadcrumb trail, or flips town and leaves behind a tasty breadcrumb trail. Trusting Golden again seems like a nice way to get another townie killed. We've got a scum dead inside the first four days in a large game. We can afford a tactical lynch. Sorsha is a good lynch candidate for up front scum play as well as being the best possible lynch from a tactical perspective. Short of someone saying "I am scum" my vote won't be changing today.

Sorsha's play being scum is well documented, you only have to look at her recent posts to get a sense of posting nervously as scum playing poorly with a lynch on them tend to do.

DrWilgy... Are you tunneling me because I said you were scum in that Jimmy's game? Oh my God, u suck brah.

Others have pointed this out (Epi and Sorsha that I remember), but I think it was a good point: lynching a civ and getting lots of info is NOT preferable to lynching a baddie, even if you get little to no info. I know Macdougall clarified his thoughts after this, but it still sounds funny to me.

There's this....

motel room wrote:

MacDougall wrote:I'm actually unvoting sorsha and changing my vote to MattF. Something about him is not what it seems my friends. And I aim to get to the bottom of it.

I don't get why you've switched from Sorsha, at one point saying you wont switch for anything less than someone saying "i am scum", to Matt F because of a few "pings". This is a significant bandwagon.

And finally, this post sounds like baddie bitter about Golden being outed.

MacDougall wrote:

Golden wrote:

Black Rock wrote:Something about Sorshas posts just read genuine to me. I'll be surprised if she flips bad.

I uninured agree. I unwarmed don't me in charge buddy! be very surprised.

I agree with golden. He is the best townie in the world after all.

I feel pretty darn bad about Mac now. Probably too late for today, but very worth a look tomorrow.

Epi had made one post at exactly 6:00pm that day lightly chiding Mac for his stance on lynching townies. However, he stopped well short of actually accusing him of anything.

Spoiler: show

Epignosis wrote:

MacDougall wrote:I think we really have to lynch sorsha. I feel like it's the key to breaking the game open today. She either flips scum and leaves behind a tasty breadcrumb trail, or flips town and leaves behind a tasty breadcrumb trail. Trusting Golden again seems like a nice way to get another townie killed. We've got a scum dead inside the first four days in a large game. We can afford a tactical lynch. Sorsha is a good lynch candidate for up front scum play as well as being the best possible lynch from a tactical perspective. Short of someone saying "I am scum" my vote won't be changing today.

Sorsha's play being scum is well documented, you only have to look at her recent posts to get a sense of posting nervously as scum playing poorly with a lynch on them tend to do.

DrWilgy... Are you tunneling me because I said you were scum in that Jimmy's game? Oh my God, u suck brah.

Lynching someone just for clues instead of lynching Mafia which would most likely skip the Night phase and thus prevent two kills?

No thanks.

He then went on to talk about other things, and made 13 other posts before finally posting this actual suspicion of Mac at 9:29pm, nearly an hour and a half after me. (Had to unspoiled the interior of this because apparently you can't embed spoilers within spoilers.)

Spoiler: show

Epignosis wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Actually I can get it.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Relationship between MacDougall and Long Con:

MacDougall wrote:

Long Con wrote:Bea has opinions about who is Civvie, but none about who is bad. A Mafia member knows every Civvie out there, so can proclaim their trust with confidence. I think bea is Mafia, and I'm going to put my vote on her for now.

*votes bea*

This post set off scumdar pretty bad. It reads tactical, mindful ... I don't like it. No other posts in Long Con's ISO trouble me. It just seems like a nervous first major action.

MacAttack right off the bat. Good look, not just because it's anti-LC but because this is the kind of thing that helped to force LC to pretend it was ruse.

Here we have MacDougall and LC literally discussing the Nothing but Flowers role in the thread.

Mac brought the role up, and LC couldn't resist the urge to comment. Do I think two mafia team mates were chatting the day away about one of their own roles publicly in the thread? I absolutely don't. Towniest look of any analysis I've done so far, congratulations Mac.

MacDougall wrote:

Sorsha wrote:Two players I'm considering voting for so far:
Mac:
I don't like Mac going for seaside for the simple fact that he doesn't want him in the game. Seaside came in day one voicing suspicion of Mac so this just seems like a delayed no u/omgus. Long Con made a couple good points earlier about some things Mac said yesterday late in the lynch also. (If I wasn't on my phone I'd go back and get the quote) Mac was also on HBs rainbow list in yellow so I could see Mac trying to take him out before HB had more of a chance to look closer at him.
Straw:
Based on his posts from the night I believe he might also be trying to set seaside up for the HB kill.

Going to put my vote on Mac for the time being.

I don't want him in the game because he's either scum or because he's disruptive to the scum hunt. He's the best lynch candidate for the day. Explain to me how that's not valid?

His suspicion of me was nothing tbh. I barely even considered it at the time let alone now.

I don't think Long Con's points were good. Pretty sure you'll agree when you ACTUALLY READ THEM.

Also I have no idea what the fuck you mean by the last bit? Setting him up for the kill? He's going to get lynched, why would anyone bother doing that?

Lynching seaside is a no brainer at this point. Most votes, most people interracted with so it leaves the best crumbs. Most people seem to harbour some doubt about him.

What's your read of seaside?

Mac may have taken a long break, but he returned to Mafia in old form.

Spoiler: show

Long Con wrote:I'm used to an unchangeable vote mentality for the most part. I'll put a vote on Macdougal for the reasons I gave earlier.

LC responded to Mac's aggression with an OMGUS vote. It's possible that this was all a designed cooperative bus, but... I don't think it was.

~~~

Mac looks like a townie and y'all should do what he says.

You asked for a second opinion. So here goes.

To your first spoiler tagged entry: Why did MacDougall choose to gun for that particular vote? There were a lot of shitty votes Day 1, as there always are, and Long Con struck me as genuine (and you have Black Rock here verifying that I usually view LC as bad, which is true). Why call him out on that?

I don't know why it never occurred to me before, but I want to go back to Breaking Bad Mafia on RM. Sorsha was bad with then, weren't your Sorsha? Aw, wait, you're dead because people don't listen to sense.

In that game, I was Gus Fring, and my vote was worth a shit ton. While that sort of thing sounds good, it's very hard to hide. I chose to be blatant about it, breaking ties and what not and rubbing it in people's faces. I lasted quite a while.

Long Con was in that game, and he hunted my role hard. It was an exhausting exercise, and I think it's one he didn't look forward to in particular.

Suppose then, that LC decides to have this fake case on a civilian to "test reactions" and get somebody else on his team to call him out on it. They duke it out in the thread, and the plan is to lynch LC, who, let's face it, would be caught eventually anyway (seriously folks, giving Mafia +vote roles only outs them in the long run- it's bad game design). LC gets lynched, and the one who called him out on his gambit gets credit for it.

With a team of seven, it's the kind of thing I'd go for.

The fact that you, 3J, were blind to this possibility concerns me.

MacDougall has gone from gung-ho against Mafia to wanting to lynch civilians to give us fucking breadcrumbs. Fuck breadcrumbs.

I also want to point out that, in the second spoiler tag, 3J highlights "I don't think Long Con's points were good. Pretty sure you'll agree when you ACTUALLY READ THEM" which directs attention from the rest of the post:

MacDougall wrote:

Sorsha wrote:Two players I'm considering voting for so far:
Mac:
I don't like Mac going for seaside for the simple fact that he doesn't want him in the game. Seaside came in day one voicing suspicion of Mac so this just seems like a delayed no u/omgus. Long Con made a couple good points earlier about some things Mac said yesterday late in the lynch also. (If I wasn't on my phone I'd go back and get the quote) Mac was also on HBs rainbow list in yellow so I could see Mac trying to take him out before HB had more of a chance to look closer at him.
Straw:
Based on his posts from the night I believe he might also be trying to set seaside up for the HB kill.

Going to put my vote on Mac for the time being.

I don't want him in the game because he's either scum or because he's disruptive to the scum hunt. He's the best lynch candidate for the day. Explain to me how that's not valid?

His suspicion of me was nothing tbh. I barely even considered it at the time let alone now.

I don't think Long Con's points were good. Pretty sure you'll agree when you ACTUALLY READ THEM.

Also I have no idea what the fuck you mean by the last bit? Setting him up for the kill? He's going to get lynched, why would anyone bother doing that?

Lynching seaside is a no brainer at this point. Most votes, most people interracted with so it leaves the best crumbs. Most people seem to harbour some doubt about him.

What's your read of seaside?

3J took this post, highlighted a side note about Long Con, when the overall conversation here was about seaside. Then 3J talked Mac up, saying, "Mac may have taken a long break, but he returned to Mafia in old form. "

Old form...over a defensive post? Is he usually defensive?

And what happened to lynching seaside for breadcrumbs?

Finally, on this point, tt's worth pointing out that Sorsha, a civilian, suspected Mac.

Mmm...breadcrumbs indeed.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:LC responded to Mac's aggression with an OMGUS vote. It's possible that this was all a designed cooperative bus, but... I don't think it was.

Raise your hand if you think LC casts OMGUS votes on civilians.

Now raise your hand if you think LC knew what he was about when he did it.

I think this needed to be made obvious, because it's just false and it's confusing other people. (Matt F, for example, actually corrected Epi earlier, saying he wasn't the only one to post a Mac case. However, he neglected to mention that Epi wasn't even first to the scene I believe this is because of Epi's overdone claims.) Epi is jumping at every chance to take credit for this, and I think it's giving people way more of a positive read on him than he deserves to get for his Mac stance.

Linki: Elo, fair enough. JJJ, do you have numbers on how many times he's been bad? If he's 4/4 on teammate votes Day 1, that's damn compelling. If he's 4/20, not so much.

Russtifinko wrote:(Honestly though I don't find this Epi-Mac discussion to be super valuable, so I don't feel awful interrupting it.)

For now I'm throwing a vote on espers. As someone else pointed out, he's basically like recent Diiny, except all game, and he's been after me for no reason, which I don't like. I would not be opposed to lynching him, but I think it's unlikely for today. I probably will switch before Day's end. Possibly to Mac, who I'm thinking about a lot, or maybe to Epi or fingers.

Bullzeye wrote:

Golden wrote:

Bullzeye wrote:I don't think he's bad and I won't take whatever bait he thinks he's thrown out there.

This makes no sense. If you don't think I'm bad, why wouldn't you take the 'bait' I've thrown out there. If you think I'm civ, surely you know me well enough to trust my gambits?

Because I think you're a civ and I'm not into lynching civs regardless of what you think it will accomplish.

Bullzeye wrote:

Golden wrote:Anyway, I doubt Il'l have a chance to be back before the lynch. I'd vote myself if I could, but that would be heinous rule breaking deserving of punishment, so I'm sticking with it on JJJ. I don't think Sorsha is the right person to lynch.

Good luck everyone - I'm really hoping that I'll discover you have listened to me, but if you lynch someone else then good luck on that one.

@JJJ - oh, really, you think I haven't considered a disastrous impact of my own lynch? What would that be?

@Bullz - I don't think refusing to hear other civilians is a townie thing to do.

I don't think lynching civs is a civ thing to do. Nor do I think pressuring people to lynch you is in any way a useful tactic regardless of alignment.

Bullzeye wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Golden -- Bad vibes. In the midst of protecting LC, he took the opportunity to go after me for behavior that makes no sense if I'm bad. I think he knows that, and saw an opportunity to capitalize. That's exactly what I was looking for from someone, and Golden ended up being the culprit. When I prodded him to tell me what he thinks I might be doing as a baddie, he had nothing. He even insinuates that he doesn't have to have anything. That's not a good look.

This is a good summary of why I, too, do not have good feelings about Golden right now. He's one of a few I'd say could be LC's team. Epi and Sorsha are in there too for trying quite hard to discredit the LC case.

Bullzeye wrote:Yay, 2-ish pages is much easier to catch up on. Welcome to the game Fuzz, I don't envy your catchup at all. I will probably be changing my vote today, as I feel more reasonable about Sorsha. However I was going to move it to Epi until he came in being all genuine and making so much sense. He won't be getting my vote either. Nor will Golden. I don't know what game he's playing but it's ridiculous and disruptive and I don't see why a baddie would ever do such a thing so blatantly. I don't think he's bad and I won't take whatever bait he thinks he's thrown out there.

Bullzeye wrote:So Golden's big scheme that we should've all gone along with or be considered suspicious was... to kill a civvie? Good work!

MacDougall wrote:

Golden wrote:@MacDougall - like I say, if you think I am scum, lynch me.

I encourage that today, there are only two lynch candidates on the table.

One is me, one is Jay. Vote with your feet. Jay for you think it was a bus. Me for you think Jay is a town hero.

King Arthur, here we bloody well come.

Wait, why would you be scum? I've missed something here. I didn't have you trying to abandon the LC lynch until right at the end. By the time you came along it would be nuts for you to be so obvious if you were scum?

No, I have you as a solid town read. I also have Jimmy. Why would one of you be scum?

MacDougall wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:GOLDEN

JJJ

MACDOUGALL

MATT F

Good

Good

Me

Bad

MacDougall wrote:Okay I get it now. Golden is scum pretending to be reckless town and it began when LC flipped scum and he cracked badly and has been trying to glue together all the crumbs that fell out with a more and more intricate series of wifom plays and bullshit.

Changing my vote to golden. He reminds me of me as scum.

MacDougall wrote:There is a lot of effort going into moving the lynch off golden/sorsha and onto someone else. Watch for llama/bullzeye like votes.

MacDougall wrote:

Bullzeye wrote:Yeah I think FZ has raised a decent point about Russ, and I can't see any other explanations, so I will be *Voting Russti*

Can't see any other explanations for what? His behaviour? I don't like your choice of words here...

MacDougall wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:BCORNETT

BEA

BLACK ROCK

BULLZEYE

Good

Bad

Good

Bad

MacDougall wrote:Looking at the later votes on Devinwagon, and none came before any of these four so it doesn't look like the scum got desparate and tried to double down to ensure Devin got lynched, but it does make me more weary of sig, Bullzeye and Black Rock.

linki: So coupled with Epi's request, let's take a closer look at Black Rock.

Bullzeye wrote:

MacDougall wrote:Syndicate players, can I get some input on whether epi is playing differently in this game than usual?

He's usually a lot more aggressive. However he did just get killed night one in Recruitment (by accident as well) so he might have been deliberately trying to be more restrained just to avoid his sucky curse of always dying straight away for lame reasons.

Also, I was meaning to say earlier, I think there's good reason to believe that the SK targeted Golden's seductee and that that's why there were two kills shown. In this game there has been a lot of discussion as to whether or not SK's are actually just misunderstood, civ-friendly softies who love cuddles and would never harm a fly unless it was evil. Killing the basically outed civ removes any doubt that the SK is not civ-friendly. I don't think they'd choose to do that so early on. I think they killed someone else, and that someone was Golden's seduced friend. Then MP wrote the night post to reflect that the SK had both failed to kill one person and also killed Golden. I think that's a far more realistic option.

Bullzeye wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: The most noteworthy takeaway for me is that Bullzeye had very little say on the matter of MacDougall in this game. This is surprising because Mac clearly put some effort into calling Bullzeye a baddie -- both gun to head and in the form of actual accusations. Mac never built a real case or truly pursued this lynch, and Bullzeye did not seem to have much to say at all about the guy repeatedly calling him scum. Curious.

See my previous post re: not having seen any suspicion of me worth taking seriously yet. Mac wasn't giving any substance to his mentions of me. Nothing to say to him really.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Epi, any immediate thoughts on the matter of RadicalFuzz?

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Matt F wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Matt F wrote:I almost want a Fuzz lynch now because I think he'll flip civvie, and if so, then we can finally lynch 3J (but I'm betting Epig won't want to)

Why are you lining up names to be lynched in succession?

I still think you're Mafia.

And yeah, good call Wilgy. Lynching someone who can't defend - that's real town behavior.

We've lynched Epignosis once before when he couldn't properly defend himself.

He flipped mafia.

Elohcin wrote:

Matt F wrote:This is going to be a strange request...

Can everyone tell Elohcin a joke this day phase? Thanks!

Matt F wrote:This is going to be a strange request...

Can everyone tell Elohcin a joke this day phase? Thanks!

Matt F wrote:I'm asking because even if you were just playing around with her, the idea of a recruiter hadn't entered my mind until you mentioned it. Then I recalled MacD asking me why the Mafia hadn't killed her yet if she was "obv town".

Anyway, like I said before, let's wait for the hosts to answer before we go down that road.

Matt F wrote:

Epignosis wrote:*sigh*

I would not take Elohcin if I were a recruiter.







OMG WIFOM WIFOM WIFOM

Again, that exercise was assuming you were civvie. I asked if you thought she would be a top tier candidate for recruitment.

Am I really not making myself clear when I ask these questions???

Matt F wrote:I see your point, but I don't get why you had to brush off my questioning about recruitment when you YOURSELF say "Yeah it's possible."

What do you think of sig's response about Russ and Diiny being "civ" and his "typo" ?

Matt F wrote:

Epignosis wrote:By all means, Matt, lynch me now and throw the game because there's more tinfoil coming from your head than sound ideas.

It's really not my fault that you couldn't simply say "Yeah Matt, that might be possible" instead of what you did.

Either way, I'd really like sig to answer my question regarding Russ and Diiny

Matt F wrote:Anyway, I'm goin' out for awhile.

Be back in a couple of hours.

Hopefully, by then, Epignosis has an answer as to whether or not he thinks Elohcin has been recruited.

Matt F wrote:I never said you were "for" it. I said you brought up the idea. Now I'm asking if you are against it?

Please, for once, a straight answer.

Matt F wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Matt F wrote:

MacDougall wrote:If Elohcin is obvtown why wouldn't the scum have murderfied Elohcin?

This is a fantastic question posed by scum MacD.

If Elohcin is obv town, and she will not be lynched, why don't the Mafia take her out?

When have they had an opportunity to kill her? How do you know they didn't try and fail?

I'm not trying to lynch her today. Just posing a realistic question.

MacD said "If Elohcin is obvtown why wouldn't the scum have murderfied Elohcin?" MacD was scum. He obviously had the answer to this when asking the question.

Epignosis - You were the one who brought up the very idea of Elohcin being recruited. Are you against that idea now?

HOSTS - If a civilian is recruited to the Mafia or with the SK, if lynched, will the town be told they have been recruited or will the role just be revealed?

Matt F wrote:

MacDougall wrote:If Elohcin is obvtown why wouldn't the scum have murderfied Elohcin?

This is a fantastic question posed by scum MacD.

If Elohcin is obv town, and she will not be lynched, why don't the Mafia take her out?