The Syndicate

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Stellar turnaround.

Floyd really stepped it up and kept his head under pressure. Well done.

I am, for once, going to indulge in one of these here reaction posts.

Diiny wrote:Tell me why epi's conduct is ok.

Because it lynched you.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

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Epignosis wrote:You don't think that because you are bad. You are Diiny's savior. Again.

Don't tell me what I do or don't think. You're misrepresenting me.

I'll tell you what I want. How am I misrepresenting you?

You keep saying I'm voting for you only to save Diiny and I don't actually think you're bad. Neither of those is true.

Then I hope the coin flip goes in my favor so I can crucify you tomorrow. If you don't kill me.

You're so bad.

You wouldn't know a bad Epi if you saw one. No one would.

I'm that fucking good.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:You don't think that because you are bad. You are Diiny's savior. Again.

Don't tell me what I do or don't think. You're misrepresenting me.

I'll tell you what I want. How am I misrepresenting you?

You keep saying I'm voting for you only to save Diiny and I don't actually think you're bad. Neither of those is true.

Then I hope the coin flip goes in my favor so I can crucify you tomorrow. If you don't kill me.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:You don't think that because you are bad. You are Diiny's savior. Again.

Don't tell me what I do or don't think. You're misrepresenting me.

I'll tell you what I want. How am I misrepresenting you?

Diiny wrote:And what's not bad, pray tell, about your stance on me being pathetic? Why are you so hesitant to consider that maybe on LYLO you should engage with a player's content instead of using logic that could just as easily paint me town (JJJ saved me, Zeb saved me when she swapped to wilgy)

That logic can't "paint you town." 3J didn't know your alignment. Zebra didn't save you, sorry.

You don't think that because you are bad. You are Diiny's savior. Again.

MP is not voting for me because he thinks I'm bad. He's voting me because he wants someone else to vote for besides Diiny.

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Epignosis wrote:You're not hunting either. You're pretending to.

Bullsuit I'm not hunting. You've made up your mind without even considering any of my posts today.

Sure did. And rightly so. You don't suspect me. You were looking for excuses to vote me. Your bullshit "ISO" "This is a town read this is a scum read" is horseshit. ONCE AGAIN you are saving Diiny.

You are bad.

You're not hunting either. You're pretending to.

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Epignosis wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:Switching vote to Epi

Yeah, I thought you'd do that. You and "respond to my posts" Diiny.

I'm out. Diiny and MP are teammates.

Bullsuit we are. You're bad.

Based on what? Your ISO?

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Epignosis wrote:

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Epignosis wrote:You've been saved twice. Four civilians voted you in the span of three Days. I'm honoring the wishes of the dead in hope that I'm not the only civilian dumbass this time around.

You realize that you're playing right into the mafia's hands if Diiny is town, right?

If.

...and you're basing your opinion of Diiny on this fact alone? I don't understand.

On which fact alone? I named two.

You're willing to vote for Diiny just because he's been in the hotseat, essentially.

"Just because"

"essentially"

You're reducing days worth of stuff on Diiny to a single sentence. That's disingenuous. I'm sorry I spent my evening talking to you, Mafia.

MovingPictures07 wrote:Switching vote to Epi

Yeah, I thought you'd do that. You and "respond to my posts" Diiny.

I'm out. Diiny and MP are teammates.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:You've been saved twice. Four civilians voted you in the span of three Days. I'm honoring the wishes of the dead in hope that I'm not the only civilian dumbass this time around.

You realize that you're playing right into the mafia's hands if Diiny is town, right?

If.

...and you're basing your opinion of Diiny on this fact alone? I don't understand.

On which fact alone? I named two.

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Epignosis wrote:You've been saved twice. Four civilians voted you in the span of three Days. I'm honoring the wishes of the dead in hope that I'm not the only civilian dumbass this time around.

You realize that you're playing right into the mafia's hands if Diiny is town, right?

If.

Diiny wrote:

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Diiny wrote:I've just gone through the chat epi and MP had and I I feel like epi asks questions for the hell of it rather than to push/bait/get a read on MP.

Epi, I think you understand that because you think someone's town it doesn't mean their reads are correct. I think you also understood that MP understood that. That's just one of the questions that felt forced to me and the importance of which I don't particularly understand. Also, epi, you still haven't elaborated on your stance for me. Why not?

linki: it would be a mislynch.

My stance on you is you're bad and should be eliminated now. I think I've said that a few times.

why am I bad epi

Because somebody has to be.

Why am I more likely to be, and why are you being coy at lylo.

You've been saved twice. Four civilians voted you in the span of three Days. I'm honoring the wishes of the dead in hope that I'm not the only civilian dumbass this time around.

And stop saying "lylo." Not only is it a silly word, but

Metalmarsh89 wrote:As a reminder, votes are still changeable today, because this is not a LYLO situation.

Diiny wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Diiny wrote:I've just gone through the chat epi and MP had and I I feel like epi asks questions for the hell of it rather than to push/bait/get a read on MP.

Epi, I think you understand that because you think someone's town it doesn't mean their reads are correct. I think you also understood that MP understood that. That's just one of the questions that felt forced to me and the importance of which I don't particularly understand. Also, epi, you still haven't elaborated on your stance for me. Why not?

linki: it would be a mislynch.

My stance on you is you're bad and should be eliminated now. I think I've said that a few times.

why am I bad epi

Because somebody has to be.

Diiny wrote:I've just gone through the chat epi and MP had and I I feel like epi asks questions for the hell of it rather than to push/bait/get a read on MP.

Epi, I think you understand that because you think someone's town it doesn't mean their reads are correct. I think you also understood that MP understood that. That's just one of the questions that felt forced to me and the importance of which I don't particularly understand. Also, epi, you still haven't elaborated on your stance for me. Why not?

linki: it would be a mislynch.

My stance on you is you're bad and should be eliminated now. I think I've said that a few times.

Still not moving my vote.

Sarcasm, by the way, since I don't believe any behavior is inherently civilian...just poking fun of those who do.

MovingPictures07 wrote:CFD = Chinese fire drill, it means a mass moving of votes to one player without much prior precedent.

Total civilian behavior.

MovingPictures07 wrote:For the love of god, where is everyone?

In your chat room?

Oh wait its day nvm

How's it work?

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Epignosis wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:If I could lynch one player right now, I think it'd be sig. I'm going to ISO him right now though; I've lost interest in Mac. I do not want to lynch Mac today.

Of course not. You, Mac, and Diiny, right?

Sell me on Mac then, if you think he is the best way to go. I'm listening, but I see his Day 1-2 content and I don't see a mafia member.

And no, nice try, I'm civilian.

So: You don't suspect Mac. You don't suspect Diiny. You don't suspect Floyd.

Presumably you don't suspect yourself.

Congratulations! You have the Mafia team figured out!

MovingPictures07 wrote:If I could lynch one player right now, I think it'd be sig. I'm going to ISO him right now though; I've lost interest in Mac. I do not want to lynch Mac today.

Of course not. You, Mac, and Diiny, right?

Why are you asking me to elaborate on something I already commented on (and linked to you just a few hours ago)?

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Epignosis wrote:

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Epignosis wrote:

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I thought Enrique looked worse than Diiny Day 1, so yeah, that's how I voted. I have to make a judgment as to whether players are mafia or not... that's the game. If I think someone is town, you better bet I'm going to defend them. There is always a disclaimer that I'm wrong, and I'm always willing to reconsider my evaluations.

Mafia have to try to look good. Yet people vote based on who "looked worse." How does that work out? I'll never understand this mindset.

You lost me. What do you mean?

I mean just that. "I voted for the guy who looked the worst."

But civilians don't have to worry about how they LOOK- Mafia do. I'm more inclined to vote those who are the ones who look better than they should if they are civilian.

If you think Diiny is good, why aren't you helping him lynch Floyd?

That's backwards logic though. Civilians don't have to worry about how they look, yeah, so they will look genuine. I, like everyone else, have to assess who I think is being genuine and who isn't. Hence, I thought Enrique seemed less genuine (aka worse) than Diiny. I'm not sure I see what you're getting at. Isn't that part of the game?

Just because I'm town reading Diiny doesn't mean I think he has to be right about his Floyd suspicion.

It isn't backwards logic. "Civilians don't have to worry about how they look, yeah, so they will look genuine." How'd that work out for Enrique, DrWilgy, and 3J? They all got lynched.

Do you also not think Floyd is bad? If not, why not?

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:
I thought Enrique looked worse than Diiny Day 1, so yeah, that's how I voted. I have to make a judgment as to whether players are mafia or not... that's the game. If I think someone is town, you better bet I'm going to defend them. There is always a disclaimer that I'm wrong, and I'm always willing to reconsider my evaluations.

Mafia have to try to look good. Yet people vote based on who "looked worse." How does that work out? I'll never understand this mindset.

You lost me. What do you mean?

I mean just that. "I voted for the guy who looked the worst."

But civilians don't have to worry about how they LOOK- Mafia do. I'm more inclined to vote those who are the ones who look better than they should if they are civilian.

If you think Diiny is good, why aren't you helping him lynch Floyd?

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Epignosis wrote:

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MovingPictures07 wrote:I am good, and so I ask you this: Who would you like to lynch and why?

And I'd like to point out that MP is trying to draw my vote away from Diiny again.

I don't understand, MP, why you are defending Diiny. Would you kindly explain why?

I'm defending Diiny because in Diiny's behavior I've consistently seen someone who wants to find mafia. I know Diiny can act aggressive if he wants to (see: Talking Heads), but I've played and witnessed at least a handful of games with Diiny now, mostly on RM. When he's faking it, I've seen his contributions drop off over time, and he tends to fade in the background as it becomes harder for him to fabricate the hunt. The only game where I thought I caught mafia Diiny early on because his content seemed fake, I ended up being correct, although I unfortunately didn't pursue my gut evaluation of it.

I've not seen anything fabricated at all here. I see someone genuinely interested in mafia hunting and in pursuing / questioning players. I don't think he handled the Wilgy gambit perfectly, because when you see his behavior he shifts from cautiously approaching interactions with Wilgy to aggressively going after him, then kinda flip/flops between the two a bit, but I can interpret a scenario in which Diiny was trying to figure out Wilgy's intentions early on, then decided that he seemed insincere.

Why do you think I shouldn't be defending him?

I don't think you should be defending anybody if you're good. You essentially saved Diiny Day 1. That's not "over time." That's Day 1.

I thought Enrique looked worse than Diiny Day 1, so yeah, that's how I voted. I have to make a judgment as to whether players are mafia or not... that's the game. If I think someone is town, you better bet I'm going to defend them. There is always a disclaimer that I'm wrong, and I'm always willing to reconsider my evaluations.

Mafia have to try to look good. Yet people vote based on who "looked worse." How does that work out? I'll never understand this mindset.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:I am good, and so I ask you this: Who would you like to lynch and why?

And I'd like to point out that MP is trying to draw my vote away from Diiny again.

I don't understand, MP, why you are defending Diiny. Would you kindly explain why?

I'm defending Diiny because in Diiny's behavior I've consistently seen someone who wants to find mafia. I know Diiny can act aggressive if he wants to (see: Talking Heads), but I've played and witnessed at least a handful of games with Diiny now, mostly on RM. When he's faking it, I've seen his contributions drop off over time, and he tends to fade in the background as it becomes harder for him to fabricate the hunt. The only game where I thought I caught mafia Diiny early on because his content seemed fake, I ended up being correct, although I unfortunately didn't pursue my gut evaluation of it.

I've not seen anything fabricated at all here. I see someone genuinely interested in mafia hunting and in pursuing / questioning players. I don't think he handled the Wilgy gambit perfectly, because when you see his behavior he shifts from cautiously approaching interactions with Wilgy to aggressively going after him, then kinda flip/flops between the two a bit, but I can interpret a scenario in which Diiny was trying to figure out Wilgy's intentions early on, then decided that he seemed insincere.

Why do you think I shouldn't be defending him?

I don't think you should be defending anybody if you're good. You essentially saved Diiny Day 1. That's not "over time." That's Day 1.

MovingPictures07 wrote:I am good, and so I ask you this: Who would you like to lynch and why?

And I'd like to point out that MP is trying to draw my vote away from Diiny again.

I don't understand, MP, why you are defending Diiny. Would you kindly explain why?

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:Epi, what do you think of FZ./sig? He's still on my radar.

FZ. sounded good to me- natural and reserved. sig sounds eager to please, unwilling to provide his own stance on me and willing to bend to outside opinion. Keep in mind that FZ. voted for me Day 1. sig acts like he needs permission to come after me, even though he had me at the bottom of his list when he replaced back in.

So you suspect sig, but didn't suspect FZ.?

What did you think of JJJ's FZ. ISO, or any of the questions I raised about her?

Can you point to a post maybe where you thought FZ. seemed most civilian? I think that'd be important because most of her posts got a bad look from me.

I don't disagree with your interpretation of sig's behavior; he has been rather crowd-pleasing.

I didn't say I suspected sig. I suspect all y'all mothafuckas, so I don't get what's up the ponder smiley.

As I said, I don't think those things are useful until you caught Mafia. I haven't caught Mafia.

FZ. wrote:Wilgy, I think that if you're lying and you're not bad, it is seriously fucked up to lynch someone like you're doing now.

That don't sound like bad FZ. to me. I'm not the best judge, but that don't sound like bad FZ. to me.

MovingPictures07 wrote:Should I do a Mac ISO? man, these things take too long. I really want to take a look at him though because I've been consistently reading him supatown, and it's possible he's tricking me (of course, that's possible with anyone).

I don't care if you do one or not. I don't think those things are useful until you've caught Mafia, but that's just me.

MovingPictures07 wrote:Epi, what do you think of FZ./sig? He's still on my radar.

FZ. sounded good to me- natural and reserved. sig sounds eager to please, unwilling to provide his own stance on me and willing to bend to outside opinion. Keep in mind that FZ. voted for me Day 1. sig acts like he needs permission to come after me, even though he had me at the bottom of his list when he replaced back in.

Well, MP asked just now.

I recall MacDougall going after motel room, then changing his opinion as soon as 3J said motel room looked good. From there, MacDougall turned on me, and now has a vote on Diiny.

That's why I suspect MacDougall (not just the Diiny-saving antics).

I realized no one asked, but there you are.

Coupla beers will do for now.

MovingPictures07 wrote:Going to continue my Epi ISO now.

If you're good, you don't have to waste your time.

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Epignosis wrote:My hands are shaking. Like leaves.

Is this just a tree pun or are you really shaking?

Yah- first weight-lifting cardio of our new program. I used a 15 pound weight even though the man said not to use anything above a 12. Plus I'm starving.

My hands are shaking. Like leaves.

I'm convinced no one here knows what "throwing shade" is.

MovingPictures07 wrote:Epi, where you'd go, bud? I wanted to talk with someone.

I'm at work. It's Leo DiCaprio time.

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Epignosis wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

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MovingPictures07 wrote:I'm starting to think I'm wrong about Epi. He begins throwing some shade on zebra for going after Diiny over JJJ, then right out of the gate Epi votes motel room (with no explanation), now he's shifted his vote to Diiny after throwing out a few questions at him.

Scenario: Epi is mafia, and he's kept me alive because I've been town reading him, and he didn't fight against the JJJ lynch because JJJ was his accuser.

I didn't fight against the 3J lynch? I called for the 3J lynch.

You're bad.

That's my point.

Now you're baselessly accusing me after failing to mention me all game? Bullshit you believe that.

Baselessly?

Get your facts together, cowboy.

That says nothing about whether I'm mafia. It also says nothing about Diiny being mafia.

What does say something about whether or not someone is Mafia then?

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:I'm starting to think I'm wrong about Epi. He begins throwing some shade on zebra for going after Diiny over JJJ, then right out of the gate Epi votes motel room (with no explanation), now he's shifted his vote to Diiny after throwing out a few questions at him.

Scenario: Epi is mafia, and he's kept me alive because I've been town reading him, and he didn't fight against the JJJ lynch because JJJ was his accuser.

I didn't fight against the 3J lynch? I called for the 3J lynch.

You're bad.

That's my point.

Now you're baselessly accusing me after failing to mention me all game? Bullshit you believe that.

Baselessly?

Get your facts together, cowboy.

MovingPictures07 wrote:I'm starting to think I'm wrong about Epi. He begins throwing some shade on zebra for going after Diiny over JJJ, then right out of the gate Epi votes motel room (with no explanation), now he's shifted his vote to Diiny after throwing out a few questions at him.

Scenario: Epi is mafia, and he's kept me alive because I've been town reading him, and he didn't fight against the JJJ lynch because JJJ was his accuser.

I didn't fight against the 3J lynch? I called for the 3J lynch.

You're bad.

MovingPictures07 wrote:Regardless of whether Diiny is civilian, he's the easy button lynch right now, since he's been in the hot seat for days. I'd rather put some pressure votes elsewhere, then switch to Diiny if that's what you all decide is best (since it's LYLO, gotta keep unanimous in the end).

I have to say though, catching up I am not reading any bad vibes from Diiny. I'm struggling to understand the case. Someone help me out.

Hardly shocking, since you voted against lynching Diiny two of three times. Now he's the easy button? He's been saved at least twice and here it is Day 4, with you coming in here calling off the dogs "regardless of whether Diiny is civilian." I'd hardly call that "easy."

My vote stays.

Diiny
3
TheFloyd73 (4), Enrique (5), a2thezebra (8)
19%

Enrique
5
JaggedJimmyJay (11), DrWilgy (12), MovingPictures07 (13), MacDougall (15), Diiny (16)
31%

Epignosis
1
sig (10)
6%

sig
2
motel room (6), Sorsha (7)
13%

TheFloyd73
1
Epignosis (3)
6%

++++

DFaraday
1
motel room (3)
7%

Diiny
2
TheFloyd73 (5), DrWilgy (8)
13%

DrWilgy
3
Diiny (6), sig (9), a2thezebra (12)
20%

Epignosis
1
MacDougall (13)
7%

sig
2
MovingPictures07 (11), JaggedJimmyJay (15)
13%

MacDougall
1
Epignosis (14)
7%

++++

Diiny
4
a2thezebra (2), TheFloyd73 (5), JaggedJimmyJay (11), motel room (12)
31%

JaggedJimmyJay
5
sig (3), MovingPictures07 (4), Epignosis (6), MacDougall (7), Diiny (13)
38%

++++

On two of three occasions, MP and MacDougall both voted in a way that could keep Diiny from being lynched.

Ordinarily, one might think Mafia MP would throw Diiny under the bus, but without knowing the state of the existence of a doctor, the Mafia would surmise that lynching 3J would put them on the fast track to the final stage.

Four confirmed civilians have voted Diiny over the span of three Days.

TheFloyd73 has voted Diiny early every Day. I am struggling to understand how Floyd, with a team, would continue to do that- because if we're going by Talking Heads, I did not see that kind of voting from him. For that reason, and the fact that 3J ended up civilian, I don't see Floyd being on a team. I see him coasting in a genuine manner.

More later. Supper and band practice now.

Diiny wrote:Why are you voting motel over floyd?

I'm not.