The Syndicate

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:32 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:28 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:25 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:21 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:17 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:15 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:02 pm

Explain why Wilgy unvotes Dennis when Dennis is safely at 4 votes as a wolf, ending in a coin flip and nearly dying in the process?

Neon voted Pyxxy 2 days running.

Exactly to make you ask this question. Also are you sure there's no vote manip going on?

@tutuu was yesterday's lynch a tie?

Neon is a humongous busser. She nearly got her teammates lynched in one of the last games (silly Dennis and goofy fs).

I was just browsing Pyxxy's ISO and he pushed Neon relatively firmly. Don't want to go there.

As if the host is going to answer you. Read the eod post. It was 3/3 at eod.

Of course I'm not sure about Vote manipulation? Should I just not make the read because of an outlandish possibility?

Maybe Pyxxy's flip was janitored. We better not read their spew in case it's wrong.

Maybe unlikely but not outlandish.

Or the votes were normal votes and Wilgy literally nearly killed himself at EOD for no reason.

Also possible. Also risky. But impossible? No.

So... We are implying that in the face of 'wacky fun power roles' there is also a vote manipulator in the game, or a mechanic that changes vote weight, that I didn't carry that vote weight because I wasn't on Dennis, and that we are actually at mylo due to your proposed world of there being a W with weight of 2 and somehow me as W vs 3 town next cycle?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:25 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:21 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:17 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:15 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:02 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:01 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:59 pm

I don’t know Porscha’s wolf meta. I don’t usually deal with metas or remember them.

So you’re saying she’s volume cleared?

So again, that leaves us with WILGY and Neon. What am I missing here?

Explain why Wilgy unvotes Dennis when Dennis is safely at 4 votes as a wolf, ending in a coin flip and nearly dying in the process?

Neon voted Pyxxy 2 days running.

Exactly to make you ask this question. Also are you sure there's no vote manip going on?

@tutuu was yesterday's lynch a tie?

Neon is a humongous busser. She nearly got her teammates lynched in one of the last games (silly Dennis and goofy fs).

I was just browsing Pyxxy's ISO and he pushed Neon relatively firmly. Don't want to go there.

As if the host is going to answer you. Read the eod post. It was 3/3 at eod.

Of course I'm not sure about Vote manipulation? Should I just not make the read because of an outlandish possibility?

Maybe Pyxxy's flip was janitored. We better not read their spew in case it's wrong.

Maybe unlikely but not outlandish.

Or the votes were normal votes and Wilgy literally nearly killed himself at EOD for no reason.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:45 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:45 pm I do see that, I'm going through too fast and I'm missing stuff. I am taking a little break and I'll go back and answer everything.

Godspeed you

<3

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:44 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:42 pm

Spoiler: show

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:18 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:15 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:15 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:10 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:08 pm

Possible, but as I've pointed out I'd say unlikely.

I am not sure I would have seen a town be pocketed to the extent they'd need to be. It would be mold breaking stuff.

If one is pocketed it's probably SVS not Kate though. Kate is the one pushing SVS as lock clear without required reeval and ignoring the possibility of SVS being mafia.

I like it.

I think at this point, you being the only one to observe as to why I'm town has me either deeply pocketed or correct on your alignment.

Kate not seeing that almost feels forced at this point.

Pocket denied.

[VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine

yay!

How have you possibly not figured out I'm town yet. FR Kate, do I, as W, especially knowing how I play as W based on Meta that just ended, put myself up to yeet on the SLIGHT chance that I get to yeet someone that I find more suspicious than the lead wagon?

Spoiler: show

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:32 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:28 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:25 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:21 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:17 pm

I was just browsing Pyxxy's ISO and he pushed Neon relatively firmly. Don't want to go there.

As if the host is going to answer you. Read the eod post. It was 3/3 at eod.

Of course I'm not sure about Vote manipulation? Should I just not make the read because of an outlandish possibility?

Maybe Pyxxy's flip was janitored. We better not read their spew in case it's wrong.

Maybe unlikely but not outlandish.

Or the votes were normal votes and Wilgy literally nearly killed himself at EOD for no reason.

Also possible. Also risky. But impossible? No.

So... We are implying that in the face of 'wacky fun power roles' there is also a vote manipulator in the game, or a mechanic that changes vote weight, that I didn't carry that vote weight because I wasn't on Dennis, and that we are actually at mylo due to your proposed world of there being a W with weight of 2 and somehow me as W vs 3 town next cycle?

Like, @Kate, you can't just ignore these posts and go for the lhf silly posts I throw out there 80% of the time. You gotta at least chew on the difficult ones afew times.

Funny I literally just had the exact same experience.

But Kate is currently solving in a very narrow world because from her perspective SVS and Scotty are town for reasons I don't know. Something about God.

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:37 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:35 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:34 pm [VOTE: SVS] aubergine

the Scotty Kate team theory continues. WOOP WOOP.

I don’t remember hearing that theory.

Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:35 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:47 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 3:35 pm oh do I need to take this nutella greencheck seriously? this is a real question, I couldn't figure out the hinting mess between you dennis and nutella and I was eager to be done with catchup

Possibly a good look for Kate given Pyxxy would know it wasn't a green check if Kate was mafia.

was kate the one who said she had green check? i'm confused how it includes kate

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:34 pm Since we’re not in lylo and multiple people have proposed a Kate/svs pairing it may not be a terrible idea to go there today. For science.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:30 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 5:56 pm Kate seems much more worried about Kate’s credibility than Dennis, for some reason

TSPs last post.

Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:28 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:24 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:20 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 11:23 am Also side note:

Can someone who’s thought about this break down the proposed flavor of this game? Since waymond is mafia, should we assume the other mafia are the other main characters from this movie, namely the mom and daughter? I would expect Jamie Lee Curtis to be town in this configuration.

The mom has a thing for googly eyes.

I have googly eyes. Kate has googly eyes.

I don’t think this is a town power.

I don’t see Kate targeting herself or her partner targeting her. I don’t think Kate is bad just based on that

Thoughts?

fyi I think there has been 3? different roles in game, googly eyes, happy posting, goofy posting? and lmao kate who also straight up said she thought a role (or was it all roles? idr) was mafia and when I asked why she thought that I don't believe I got a response, so.

WHAT? WHICH ROLES DID I SAY WERE MAFIA? THE ROLES ARENT EVEN LISYED. *GOOFINESS*

speaking of happy posting, I have to do that today, and I just... just don't have it in me rn so i'ma fake it

but also scotty, you don't think kate is wolfing just b/c she has googly eyes? fr fr? in a world where the roles are all town, or the roles are mixed between town and wolves, or even if they all belong to wolves, it is nonsensical to assume kate is town because she was affected by one of them........... all of us have been affected by at least one of these powers the powers also prove nothing about alignment even if they are revealed. so how do you come to this conclusion? really seems like that's a poor reason to think kate has no potential to be wolf. at least get a better reason

ALSO I WAS LOVE CURSED EARLY ON. ITS EASY ENOUGH TO CURSE YOUR OWN TEAMMATE.

THAT IS TRUE MISS KATE AND YOU SHOULD CONTINUE TO YELL AT SCOTTY FOR SUCH A SILLY CONCLUSION WHEN YOU YOURSELF DO NOT EVEN AGREE WITH IT! (do not yell at scotty he is cinnamon roll)
BUT IT IS A SILLY CONCLUSION IS IT NOT?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:25 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:21 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:17 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:15 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:02 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:01 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:59 pm

I don’t know Porscha’s wolf meta. I don’t usually deal with metas or remember them.

So you’re saying she’s volume cleared?

So again, that leaves us with WILGY and Neon. What am I missing here?

Explain why Wilgy unvotes Dennis when Dennis is safely at 4 votes as a wolf, ending in a coin flip and nearly dying in the process?

Neon voted Pyxxy 2 days running.

Exactly to make you ask this question. Also are you sure there's no vote manip going on?

@tutuu was yesterday's lynch a tie?

Neon is a humongous busser. She nearly got her teammates lynched in one of the last games (silly Dennis and goofy fs).

I was just browsing Pyxxy's ISO and he pushed Neon relatively firmly. Don't want to go there.

As if the host is going to answer you. Read the eod post. It was 3/3 at eod.

Of course I'm not sure about Vote manipulation? Should I just not make the read because of an outlandish possibility?

Maybe Pyxxy's flip was janitored. We better not read their spew in case it's wrong.

Maybe unlikely but not outlandish.

Or the votes were normal votes and Wilgy literally nearly killed himself at EOD for no reason.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:20 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:00 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:58 pm I elaborated days ago.

Okay and you feel no need to reevaluate in light of further flips?

Remind me of said elaboration please.

@Kate you are not allowed to disregard this.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:24 pm Noting Kate is choosing to talk about NAI post curse nonsense instead of answering my question.

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:24 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:20 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 11:23 am Also side note:

Can someone who’s thought about this break down the proposed flavor of this game? Since waymond is mafia, should we assume the other mafia are the other main characters from this movie, namely the mom and daughter? I would expect Jamie Lee Curtis to be town in this configuration.

The mom has a thing for googly eyes.

I have googly eyes. Kate has googly eyes.

I don’t think this is a town power.

I don’t see Kate targeting herself or her partner targeting her. I don’t think Kate is bad just based on that

Thoughts?

fyi I think there has been 3? different roles in game, googly eyes, happy posting, goofy posting? and lmao kate who also straight up said she thought a role (or was it all roles? idr) was mafia and when I asked why she thought that I don't believe I got a response, so.

WHAT? WHICH ROLES DID I SAY WERE MAFIA? THE ROLES ARENT EVEN LISYED. *GOOFINESS*

speaking of happy posting, I have to do that today, and I just... just don't have it in me rn so i'ma fake it

but also scotty, you don't think kate is wolfing just b/c she has googly eyes? fr fr? in a world where the roles are all town, or the roles are mixed between town and wolves, or even if they all belong to wolves, it is nonsensical to assume kate is town because she was affected by one of them........... all of us have been affected by at least one of these powers the powers also prove nothing about alignment even if they are revealed. so how do you come to this conclusion? really seems like that's a poor reason to think kate has no potential to be wolf. at least get a better reason

ALSO I WAS LOVE CURSED EARLY ON. ITS EASY ENOUGH TO CURSE YOUR OWN TEAMMATE.

Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:20 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 11:23 am Also side note:

Can someone who’s thought about this break down the proposed flavor of this game? Since waymond is mafia, should we assume the other mafia are the other main characters from this movie, namely the mom and daughter? I would expect Jamie Lee Curtis to be town in this configuration.

The mom has a thing for googly eyes.

I have googly eyes. Kate has googly eyes.

I don’t think this is a town power.

I don’t see Kate targeting herself or her partner targeting her. I don’t think Kate is bad just based on that

Thoughts?

fyi I think there has been 3? different roles in game, googly eyes, happy posting, goofy posting? and lmao kate who also straight up said she thought a role (or was it all roles? idr) was mafia and when I asked why she thought that I don't believe I got a response, so.

WHAT? WHICH ROLES DID I SAY WERE MAFIA? THE ROLES ARENT EVEN LISYED. *GOOFINESS*

speaking of happy posting, I have to do that today, and I just... just don't have it in me rn so i'ma fake it

but also scotty, you don't think kate is wolfing just b/c she has googly eyes? fr fr? in a world where the roles are all town, or the roles are mixed between town and wolves, or even if they all belong to wolves, it is nonsensical to assume kate is town because she was affected by one of them........... all of us have been affected by at least one of these powers the powers also prove nothing about alignment even if they are revealed. so how do you come to this conclusion? really seems like that's a poor reason to think kate has no potential to be wolf. at least get a better reason

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:17 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:15 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:02 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:01 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:59 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:56 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:53 pm Riddle me this: how does Porscha have 218 posts and only voted in 2/4 days?

Show me a single Porscha wolf rand where she made 218 posts.

I don’t know Porscha’s wolf meta. I don’t usually deal with metas or remember them.

So you’re saying she’s volume cleared?

So again, that leaves us with WILGY and Neon. What am I missing here?

Explain why Wilgy unvotes Dennis when Dennis is safely at 4 votes as a wolf, ending in a coin flip and nearly dying in the process?

Neon voted Pyxxy 2 days running.

Exactly to make you ask this question. Also are you sure there's no vote manip going on?

@tutuu was yesterday's lynch a tie?

Neon is a humongous busser. She nearly got her teammates lynched in one of the last games (silly Dennis and goofy fs).

I was just browsing Pyxxy's ISO and he pushed Neon relatively firmly. Don't want to go there.

As if the host is going to answer you. Read the eod post. It was 3/3 at eod.

Of course I'm not sure about Vote manipulation? Should I just not make the read because of an outlandish possibility?

Maybe Pyxxy's flip was janitored. We better not read their spew in case it's wrong.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:15 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:10 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:08 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:03 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:01 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:59 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:56 pm

Show me a single Porscha wolf rand where she made 218 posts.

I don’t know Porscha’s wolf meta. I don’t usually deal with metas or remember them.

So you’re saying she’s volume cleared?

So again, that leaves us with WILGY and Neon. What am I missing here?

You just really wanna kill me huh?

@MacDougall, I liked your assoc between Kate/SVS, but is it not more likely that one W and is just comfy to have their buddy around?

Possible, but as I've pointed out I'd say unlikely.

I am not sure I would have seen a town be pocketed to the extent they'd need to be. It would be mold breaking stuff.

If one is pocketed it's probably SVS not Kate though. Kate is the one pushing SVS as lock clear without required reeval and ignoring the possibility of SVS being mafia.

I like it.

I think at this point, you being the only one to observe as to why I'm town has me either deeply pocketed or correct on your alignment.

Kate not seeing that almost feels forced at this point.

Pocket denied.

[VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:02 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:01 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:59 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:56 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:53 pm Riddle me this: how does Porscha have 218 posts and only voted in 2/4 days?

Show me a single Porscha wolf rand where she made 218 posts.

I don’t know Porscha’s wolf meta. I don’t usually deal with metas or remember them.

So you’re saying she’s volume cleared?

So again, that leaves us with WILGY and Neon. What am I missing here?

Explain why Wilgy unvotes Dennis when Dennis is safely at 4 votes as a wolf, ending in a coin flip and nearly dying in the process?

Neon voted Pyxxy 2 days running.

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:59 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:56 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:53 pm Riddle me this: how does Porscha have 218 posts and only voted in 2/4 days?

Show me a single Porscha wolf rand where she made 218 posts.

I don’t know Porscha’s wolf meta. I don’t usually deal with metas or remember them.

So you’re saying she’s volume cleared?

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:56 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:25 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 11:23 am Also side note:

Can someone who’s thought about this break down the proposed flavor of this game? Since waymond is mafia, should we assume the other mafia are the other main characters from this movie, namely the mom and daughter? I would expect Jamie Lee Curtis to be town in this configuration.

The mom has a thing for googly eyes.

I have googly eyes. Kate has googly eyes.

I don’t think this is a town power.

I don’t see Kate targeting herself or her partner targeting her. I don’t think Kate is bad just based on that

Thoughts?

Look at my avatar.

woah.

So is it just you, me and Kate that have been googlified?

Also do you agree that it is a mafia power and that those that have been googlified are more likely to be town?

I could very well recant the idea that the targets are only town since it’s not like anything negative is happening. What’s to stop mafia from just targeting each other?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:55 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:53 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:51 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:48 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:34 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:31 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:28 pm

There is no world in which you are both town. There is no argument you can use to persuade me of that. We are on day 5 and you two have been shielding each other the entire time and I'm supposed to believe a team of Wilgy/Seanzie/Porscha/Neon leave you two and myself alive?

It's not a thing. If you are town you need to consider that and vote out SVS.

Would you like to make a goofy wager on it?

Yes.

I will win though.

I've asked for elaboration on why your both so strongly reading each other town and all I've been told is basically "godread trust me" when the only logical way 1 of you can be town and still alive is if the other one is pocketing you so no. Explain any single scenario in which SVS and you are town and the mafia aren't bothered by it?

Because no offense to her, seriously, but she checked out of this game. She's barely playing. Why kill her?

Because she is being lock town read?

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:53 pm Riddle me this: how does Porscha have 218 posts and only voted in 2/4 days?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:51 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:48 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:34 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:31 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:28 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 11:07 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 7:43 am "all you seem to have done all game is carry on about me and/or Kate being bad, then drop it, then bring it up, then drop it and vote for someone else, then repeat. And make a shit ton of confusing player soup posts about all the possibilities. Yada yada"

Picking me to try to chop today is certainly a choice.

Nutella townlocked me. Was killed.
Windward townlockes me. Was killed.
TSP townlocked me. Was killed.

Pyxxy was entirely saveable at the point I voted him out. He then tried to plea directly with me to vote WWA to save him. That EOD spews me town blatantly.

Explain why a mafia team would keep you two alive if you are t/t shielding each other over Lily, Nutella or TSP?

Explain why you both reacted to Nutella and I pushing you (which we mind melded on) by overreactively omgussing and shielding each other?

Explain why you still townread each other on day 5? Why are you still shielding each other?

No answer short of a mason claim will suffice.

Mac, I say this in the most loving. Respectful and goofy way possible but not every aspect of every game is about you.

^{Svs and I are not one mind meld. We've disagreed here. She didn't think Dennis was civ, I did. Same with wwa. We are at odds on you also apparently.}

Dennis described us "able to read each other's souls." We are just VERY VERY rarely wrong about each other. And no, we are not masons. I am a vanilla civ.

If you're civ, and I do think you, let's work together to win this one.

There is no world in which you are both town. There is no argument you can use to persuade me of that. We are on day 5 and you two have been shielding each other the entire time and I'm supposed to believe a team of Wilgy/Seanzie/Porscha/Neon leave you two and myself alive?

It's not a thing. If you are town you need to consider that and vote out SVS.

Would you like to make a goofy wager on it?

Yes.

I will win though.

I've asked for elaboration on why your both so strongly reading each other town and all I've been told is basically "godread trust me" when the only logical way 1 of you can be town and still alive is if the other one is pocketing you so no. Explain any single scenario in which SVS and you are town and the mafia aren't bothered by it?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:37 pm I even lock townread you both yesterday and faked mech on you to extend the "masonry" to three and the wolves killed TSP instead of one of us 3.

Because you both thought I was pocketed when I was projecting that mindset specifically to resolve whether the wolves view that masonry as a threat.

The wolves didn't view it as a threat. Which makes no sense. TSP is a bigger threat to take to F7 than a 3 player town bloc of SVS, Kate and Mac?

In what universe?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:34 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:31 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:28 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 11:07 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 7:43 am "all you seem to have done all game is carry on about me and/or Kate being bad, then drop it, then bring it up, then drop it and vote for someone else, then repeat. And make a shit ton of confusing player soup posts about all the possibilities. Yada yada"

Picking me to try to chop today is certainly a choice.

Nutella townlocked me. Was killed.
Windward townlockes me. Was killed.
TSP townlocked me. Was killed.

Pyxxy was entirely saveable at the point I voted him out. He then tried to plea directly with me to vote WWA to save him. That EOD spews me town blatantly.

Explain why a mafia team would keep you two alive if you are t/t shielding each other over Lily, Nutella or TSP?

Explain why you both reacted to Nutella and I pushing you (which we mind melded on) by overreactively omgussing and shielding each other?

Explain why you still townread each other on day 5? Why are you still shielding each other?

No answer short of a mason claim will suffice.

Mac, I say this in the most loving. Respectful and goofy way possible but not every aspect of every game is about you.

^{Svs and I are not one mind meld. We've disagreed here. She didn't think Dennis was civ, I did. Same with wwa. We are at odds on you also apparently.}

Dennis described us "able to read each other's souls." We are just VERY VERY rarely wrong about each other. And no, we are not masons. I am a vanilla civ.

If you're civ, and I do think you, let's work together to win this one.

There is no world in which you are both town. There is no argument you can use to persuade me of that. We are on day 5 and you two have been shielding each other the entire time and I'm supposed to believe a team of Wilgy/Seanzie/Porscha/Neon leave you two and myself alive?

It's not a thing. If you are town you need to consider that and vote out SVS.

Would you like to make a goofy wager on it?

Yes.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:28 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 11:07 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 7:43 am "all you seem to have done all game is carry on about me and/or Kate being bad, then drop it, then bring it up, then drop it and vote for someone else, then repeat. And make a shit ton of confusing player soup posts about all the possibilities. Yada yada"

Picking me to try to chop today is certainly a choice.

Nutella townlocked me. Was killed.
Windward townlockes me. Was killed.
TSP townlocked me. Was killed.

Pyxxy was entirely saveable at the point I voted him out. He then tried to plea directly with me to vote WWA to save him. That EOD spews me town blatantly.

Explain why a mafia team would keep you two alive if you are t/t shielding each other over Lily, Nutella or TSP?

Explain why you both reacted to Nutella and I pushing you (which we mind melded on) by overreactively omgussing and shielding each other?

Explain why you still townread each other on day 5? Why are you still shielding each other?

No answer short of a mason claim will suffice.

Mac, I say this in the most loving. Respectful and goofy way possible but not every aspect of every game is about you.

^{Svs and I are not one mind meld. We've disagreed here. She didn't think Dennis was civ, I did. Same with wwa. We are at odds on you also apparently.}

Dennis described us "able to read each other's souls." We are just VERY VERY rarely wrong about each other. And no, we are not masons. I am a vanilla civ.

If you're civ, and I do think you, let's work together to win this one.

There is no world in which you are both town. There is no argument you can use to persuade me of that. We are on day 5 and you two have been shielding each other the entire time and I'm supposed to believe a team of Wilgy/Seanzie/Porscha/Neon leave you two and myself alive?

It's not a thing. If you are town you need to consider that and vote out SVS.

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 11:17 am I don’t have a ton of time today, but I’m gonna start with the first 3 polls. I ISO’d Wilgy for these because i know I can count on him for vote tracking.
I’m adding the new reveal of Dennis:

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 6:40 pm New Spread:

Wilgy -> Kate, Falcon
Kate -> Wilgy
Mac -> Lily
Nutella -> Rondo, Mac, TSP
Rondo -> SVS, Dennis, Seanzie, Nutella
Seanzie -> WWA

Falcon -> WWA, Nutella, Seanzie, Pyxxy, DrWIlgy
Kate -> Mac, TSP
Neon -> Kate, Porscha, SVS
Pyxxy -> Neon
TSP -> Falcon
WWA -> Dennis

DrWilgy -> TSP
Pyxxy -> Mac, Kate, Neon, Porscha, WWA
TSP -> Seanzie, Pyxxy
WWA -> SVS, DrWilgy

Keep in mind I’m coming into this with only the knowledge of who has flipped and no context. But right out of the gate, D1 was a bit of a scatter plot.
Rondo and Nutella were the top 2 wagons, and we know those were complete misses, so it seems wolves were sipping margaritas in their la-z-boys. Wilgy had 2 votes (Kate/falcon). The only revealed mafia, pyxxy, didn’t vote. What an easy day for mafia. Now, it stands to reason that at least 1 wolf is on the top 2 wagons. Though, it would probably help to see it in context via reading thread, I’m going to just assume the end of day was probably still clustered around the top 2 wagons. In which case, mafia could hide more off those wagons as they see fit. Probably a bit harder to analyze D1. But my instinct tells me there’s 1 in Mac/SVS who were on the top 2 wagons. But they’re probably not both mafia. This only makes no sense if town was hardcore failing D1, which is possible, but the polls see all. If this is the case, someone who didn’t vote D1 like Porscha could also come into the fray of possible partners.

D2: pyxxy gets in on the action in what seems like a self preservation vote on falcon. This day is probably one I should look at closer, because depending on timing, the fact that pyxxy went on falcon and not Neon (who coincidentally is voting for pyxxy at eod) could be enlightening. My gut tells me neon is just town here, but I can also see the realm in which a wolf neon throws an errant vote on pyxxy when pyxxy wasn’t actually going over. Especially considering Neon is a self professed busser.
Either way, if Wilgy is town (no idea as of now), it was only 1 wolf on falcon’s wagon. What does that mean?

D3 is tricky. Dennis didn’t vote. And a lot of unrevealed players on pyxxy’s wagon. There is high doubt that DOESNT have at least a partner bussing. This also requires a bit more scrutiny.



Next step is looking into ISOs. My initial hunch is to vote into SVS/Mac today.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 7:43 am "all you seem to have done all game is carry on about me and/or Kate being bad, then drop it, then bring it up, then drop it and vote for someone else, then repeat. And make a shit ton of confusing player soup posts about all the possibilities. Yada yada"

Picking me to try to chop today is certainly a choice.

Nutella townlocked me. Was killed.
Windward townlockes me. Was killed.
TSP townlocked me. Was killed.

Pyxxy was entirely saveable at the point I voted him out. He then tried to plea directly with me to vote WWA to save him. That EOD spews me town blatantly.

Explain why a mafia team would keep you two alive if you are t/t shielding each other over Lily, Nutella or TSP?

Explain why you both reacted to Nutella and I pushing you (which we mind melded on) by overreactively omgussing and shielding each other?

Explain why you still townread each other on day 5? Why are you still shielding each other?

No answer short of a mason claim will suffice.

Kate wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 10:27 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 10:15 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 9:23 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 6:34 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 6:32 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 6:31 pm Now that we've solved the one I saw in Pyxxy, Sean, WWA, we should solve the one in Mac/TSP.

It's just TSP like 90% of the time.

[VOTE: tsp] aubergine

Explain how TSP/Mac is a dichotomy plz.

You two block voted twice. I'd almost say this is never w/w and likely w/t.

Do you still stand by this goooofy post?

Not really. TSP explaining that they purposely followed Mac and flipped town makes it more likely they were just correct T.

Had Mac had agency on them voting together in a block then sure, but otherwise not really.

In reviewing your analysis of possible teammates I don't see any that are possible anymore. (Most contained either a dead civ, svs or me.) What are you thoughts on who pyxxy's partners could be?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 10:15 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 9:23 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 6:34 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 6:32 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 6:31 pm Now that we've solved the one I saw in Pyxxy, Sean, WWA, we should solve the one in Mac/TSP.

It's just TSP like 90% of the time.

[VOTE: tsp] aubergine

Explain how TSP/Mac is a dichotomy plz.

You two block voted twice. I'd almost say this is never w/w and likely w/t.

Do you still stand by this goooofy post?

Not really. TSP explaining that they purposely followed Mac and flipped town makes it more likely they were just correct T.

Had Mac had agency on them voting together in a block then sure, but otherwise not really.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 6:34 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 6:32 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 6:31 pm Now that we've solved the one I saw in Pyxxy, Sean, WWA, we should solve the one in Mac/TSP.

It's just TSP like 90% of the time.

[VOTE: tsp] aubergine

Explain how TSP/Mac is a dichotomy plz.

You two block voted twice. I'd almost say this is never w/w and likely w/t.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 8:40 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 8:35 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 8:08 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 7:22 pm WHAT UP, BAGELFILES?

I’m here from a different dimension. Once again, town needs some help. I haven’t read anything.

Who wants to catch me up?

I'd say I keep finding myself in agreement with Mac's reads. Neon seems to be town and you can probably trust that slot if you wanna ISO someone. I'm horrendously uninformed but have come to the conclusion that it's in you, Kate, SVS.

Why does Neon “seem” to be town? Can you extrapolate on that?

Neon would've had to be hell bussing Pyxxy for that to be a thing.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 8:10 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 8:08 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 8:06 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 7:22 pm Can we kill wilgy now?

Sure, but that would be pretty bad. Did you actually take a moment think about how EoD went before posting this or are we just shotgunning?

I've thought about NOTHING but EOD. In a very goofy matter. You left me alive for the wifom. I admire your style but I'm obsessive and I will not stop. Goooifyyyyyyyyuuuyhy!!!

Well, what I was thinking about quite literally had nothing to do with you. I'll let you ponder it for a bit and see where you get.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 8:06 pm I didn't word that properly Kate and I can see how that may come across as mean. I didn't mean anything negative and have nothing but full respect and admiration for you.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 8:06 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 7:22 pm Can we kill wilgy now?

Sure, but that would be pretty bad. Did you actually take a moment think about how EoD went before posting this or are we just shotgunning?

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 7:32 pm Is the general consensus that there’s 3 mafia in this game? With 15 people I’d expect this to be at a 5v2 situation right now. So not quite at LyLo

based on nothing, the counter wagon from yesterday seems tasty.

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 7:22 pm WHAT UP, BAGELFILES?

I’m here from a different dimension. Once again, town needs some help. I haven’t read anything.

Who wants to catch me up?

S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 6:49 pm Of all people for the hand of fate to point to fml

S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 6:49 pm Of all people for the hand of fate to point to fml

S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 6:34 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 6:28 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 5:56 pm Kate seems much more worried about Kate’s credibility than Dennis, for some reason

Yea, well I'm civ and it drives me nuts when I can't get that across.

Dennis is 90% civ. Don't vote him.

I asked you before maybe you missed it. Or maybe I missed it if you answered.

Why do you think Wilgy is bad?