Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 22, 2023 10:45 am
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Jul 22, 2023 5:06 am
Damn, do I have to be the one to do Serious Game Stuff here? It's not really my thing.
Macro thing: Zenon feels like she's posting just for the sake of keeping a presence.
Micro thing 1:
Objective fact: this was the worst opening post of anyone. It was neither Sesame Street related, nor a generic 'hi' or 'yay' or whatever, nor a generic shit post like 'hmm'. It shows Zenon thinking about herself, and a self-centred perspective is a scummy trait.
Micro thing 2 (will put this sequence in spoilers):
The mild 'I'm bored so sure' justification feels unnecessary, and the silly comeback to Wilgy feels like a deflection.
Zenon is LOCK SCUM.
Discuss.
Okay, I am going to put a townlean MR for the above post. It is level 1 townie, whereas you gotta get to level 2 to think it is scummy, so this early I'mma just run with townie. This post did IMO acomplish accelerating the pace of the game (even though there were some other things prior that started us moving in that direction). MR didn't have to do anything today, but they did something to get discussion going. Not unfakable, but I think it makes more sense coming from town than scum-who-need-not-even-be-in-the-thread-today. I don't think the case itself is so damning for Zenon, but I do think the post is pro-town (even if MR is scum, the post will do the game more good than bad IMO), so yeah.
Zenon wrote: ↑Sat Jul 22, 2023 5:43 am
This is such a bad analysis of how I play mafia I laugh in your general direction
How may times have you played with MR @Zenon?
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I think out of everyone around the MR/Zenon thing, I am most worried about Belzy (and one other name that will come later). They look like they very well could be scum pushing an early t/t feud. They don't get their hands as dirty as others have been, voting MR and only making one post saying they disagree with them. Also, some of their posts have come off as more like trying to be helpful without really doing much (CWAC) and a little pockety, see e.g. below. Town definitely can CWAC early game (and even late game), but coupled with how i see MR/Zenon, it worries me.
Belzy wrote: ↑Sat Jul 22, 2023 5:54 am
I know...
Wanna mason with me, and lynch MR d2?
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So, Ted is >rand!villa. I think the sus on Zenon, but then considering MR with a nuanced read looks good. Wolves could easily just pick a side to support, or stay out of it, but Ted looks like they're actually evaluating everyone involved.
tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat Jul 22, 2023 6:01 am
ended up voting her yesterday because of this. just seemed thought out and in a way that doesn't achieve much other than getting your foot in the thread
tho im definitely not as strong on it as you seem to be
tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat Jul 22, 2023 6:13 am
i kinda think it might be a minor bad point MR is doing this while he has a shield. part of me wants to believe he'd use it as a slank, but he's acknowledged having immunity a little too much for my liking
an additional thing is i don't know if he'd feel responsible to kickstart the game as a villa, but the worse part is that he's said nobody did anything when i thought brad went pretty hard in the paint before he posted
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I'm not a big fan of Zenon trying to appeal to a single day of a single game to deflect a read on her. It is probably NAI for Zenon herself, but I don't think it is a valid argument. Also, I don't see why you think your opener was somehow so townie to be beyond reproach?
Zenon wrote: ↑Sat Jul 22, 2023 6:07 am
You wolfed with me... for a day... before the game got reranded... how is this anything like that game lol
Zenon wrote: ↑Sat Jul 22, 2023 6:14 am
Imagine thinking my opener was bad in any way Lmfao
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Below is a post by SVS that I don't like.
They picked what IMO is the most NAI parts of Zenon's game (the discussion about the prizes), and subtly shade Zenon without really ever taking a stance. I Can see the "Look, I'm getting outraged on behalf of town" thing, but they soften it so much that SVS has plausible deniability for whatever happens with a future Zenon push.
Post towards Robyn, again seems to focus on something largely NAI, question comes of as shading, but not so hard to still leave plausible deniability.
Big post with a whole lot of not a lot. This isn't fluff (except the last part), so it being like this is worrisome.
S~V~S wrote: ↑Sat Jul 22, 2023 8:38 am
Nothing wrong with not taking yourself too seriously in a game based on puppets from a TV show for toddlers. Being lame, generic and boring can be fun
Initially it got my attention that you decided a recruiting bonus had to be balanced, and picked one of the two who got one as the bad one. But you backed off that when it was pointed out to you that it was a recruiting bonus, so meh. All it means is that you didn't read the last few posts in the sign up thread.
But THEN, you didn't actually drop it, so ...
So not sure what to think. It's a prize; a prize promised before either knew their factions. Prizes don't have to be balanced. This whole line of discussion feels like a bit of "Look, I'm getting outraged on behalf of town!". Or it could be just me picking apart stuff in a thread full of fluff. Speaking of that;
Lots of OT bullshit in this thread for you to pick apart, and you excel at it. Picking apart seemingly innocuous, banal posts and finding that kernel of truth. I envy your ability to do so, to see to the heart of a matter.
Is dreaming your usual method?
This explains some things, especially about Grover.
I'll be around most of the weekend. I'll be in and out of thread.
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Ted
MR
Zenon
SVS
Belzy
this is the real world. Scum cannot be touched.
