The Syndicate

bea wrote:OMG!!! I almost forgot!!! did anyone else besides me see Sat's episode??? I'm BURSTING to talk about it with someone.

please pm me if you are Who caught up!!! OMFG!!! I can't even effin' believe this episode!!!

If Moffat wasn't a cunt before, he is now.

I just watched it tonight, and honestly, I'm really hacked about it. I'll give it a bit longer to see if they reveal a good reason for Missy being who she is. But I'm not holding my breath.

Also, thank you SO much to everyone who mentioned they really enjoyed the game and/or were having a lot of fun with it at some point! I think I remember at least 3/4 of everyone who played saying something either publicly or privately in PMs. And given this was a game I worked to develop off and on for almost a year, that really meant a lot to me!

I will say for the next cycle, I have two games I'm planning on hosting. One is a more standard type of game, and the other is very unorthodox. All I'll say about it right now is that you should think of somewhere in between a boo game and Recruitment Mafia.

Alright. Now that my internet is working again. I can go ahead and share these two fine dandies.

The Master Cyberman: The ultimate life-form in Cyberman technology. Once every 2 nights, he can recruit another player to his Cyberman army. Once he does, they gain BTSC with him and their win conditions change to his (must be LMS or last team standing to win).

If he targets The Doctor, they must play a game of chess. The winner of the chess match determines if The Doctor is recruited or not. You are a LMS role.

Weeping Angel
Must be LMS to win. Starting on Night 1, it may choose to target a player. If targeted, that role will slowly have it's time energy sucked from them. During this time, their vote will not count. If the Weeping Angel continues to target this player for 3 consecutive nights, then the target will die. The target is unaware of the Weeping Angel's actions. If the Weeping Angel targets The Doctor, the Angel will be forced to stare into the mirror for eternity. In other words, you die.

Obviously, these were the other two secret roles. In order for them to have been revealed in-game, you would have had to lynch them. Since Splints was NKed, however, her Weeping Angel role description did not appear. Whereas Metalmarsh's did because you lynched him.

Sorry. Internet is being dumb for me right now. I'll post the other two secret roles as soon as I can.

Night 12: The End Game

Both Strax and the Cybermen had settled on a target. The same target in fact. Dom knew what was coming, and had prepared for the inevitable. Strax struck first, but Dom reacted quickly enough to hold off the blow. He was not as lucky with the Cybermen, however. They managed to knock him down, and then proceeded to beat the everliving stuffing out of him until he was nothing but a puddle of blood.

Excited at having finally finished off The Master, everyone began to rejoice. The end was near! Or so they thought.

And then Hedge cried out, "Well, now that our biggest threat is gone...kill the others!"

Snow Dog and Epig grabbed Chris and keys first, and squeezed and popped their heads off. Hedge began to roar and cackle with laughter.

One by one the remaining civvies fell. DFaraday, Long Con, and Ninja were all felled by Gotress, juliets, and Hedge respectively. Until SVS and MP were the only ones left.

That is, until MP grabbed SVS from behind, disasrmed her, and knocked her to the ground so forcefully that he broke one of her knees. SVS exclaimed, "B-b-but you're The Doctor! The one we put all our trust in!"

"Yes....", said both Hedgeowl and MP at the same time. "That trust was....severely misplaced. You see, I beat The Doctor at a game of chess. So I gained control of his body and mind. And he became my most loyal servant. The universe is better off without his Companions. In fact, it's better off without most life in general."

And with that, MP set his foot on SVS' head, lifted it, and brought it down so hard, her head popped like a melon.

Hedge began to laugh hysterically, but there was a certain evil quality to it. "Good news, boys and girls! THEY'RRRRRRRE HEEEEERRRRRRRRRE!!!"

She then set her eyes to the stars. For while Earth would fall quite easily to her now, there were plenty of other planets and galaxies to conquer. And she had the beginnings of an army that would see to her goals.

The game has ended. The Master Cyberman (Hedgeowl) and her team have won the game. Congrats to Hedgeowl, MovingPictures (The Doctor), juliets (Strax), Gotrees (Martha Jones), zeek (Wilfred Mott), Roxy (Dalek #2), Snow Dog (Cyberman Head), and Epignosis (Cyberman #1) for winning the game!

Bea is on her way home. So once she is, we'll start going through and breaking down everything that happened, as well as reveal all the hidden stuff. Although I will go ahead and reveal one hidden thing that I'm sure everyone was curious about.

juliets wrote:HOSTS: If you get all the night actions can we have an early night post?

That's the plan. I'll get it out about an hour early if that occurs.

I would like to apologize to all of you, my co-hostess included. I was at a concert with Spacedaisy and her sister last night, and I completely forgot to post something mentioning that. Yesterday was a VERY long and tiring day (I fell into bed right before 11:30 last night and am just now waking up at 9:40), and I am sorry I did not communicate that the post might be a bit late.

I would also like to make a special apology to my co-host. I know her schedule has gotten super-wonky and busy lately, and yet, I haven't been able to do the last few day/night posts. So bea, I'm really, really sorry that I've been slacking so much as a host. I've got tonight's night post covered though, so I'll be able to start getting back into the swing of things.

Tl;dr: I'm sorry for being such an unreliable doofus lately.

Please carry on.

Night 10: A tale of two women

Nights had become trying events since our band of merry lads and lassies had joined The Doctor in his TARDIS. It had felt like the gang had been traveling in vein forever from planet to planet with very little progress. The somber and sour mood was becoming infectious. Even The Doctor was starting to grow weary of having so many companions with him and so very few of them he could trust.

No one felt this sadness more than Elochin. At first the adventure and the alone time with her husband had been fun, but as more time progressed, she began to miss her children. She knew she'd left them in good hands, but as only a mother can, she worried for them. She missed their hugs, their smiles, the sound of their laughter. She even missed their squabbling. Day after day this sadness grew stronger. Elo sat apart from the crowd, lost in though over what they were doing, wondering if she'd ever see them again. She was so absorbed in the growing longing to see her babies again, she did not hear the dreaded cur-chunk, cur-chunk approach her. She did not hear them announce "You will be upgraded!" Because she didn't, answer them, they took her silence as rebellion and punished her the only way they knew how. Elo was deleted.

Strax was confused by gender. Being bred in a test tube, Sontarians had no gender. No mothers. No fathers. They were genitcally identical in build and in the truest desire of glory and honor for the Sontarian race. MetalMarsh confused him even more than normal humans. He pulled out his examining equipment. Somehow MM looked male, but his heart was female. Strax thought about MM further. MM was known to be Lucy Saxon. Lucy was not good. Lucy was recruited. Lucy wanted to cause harm to the people around him. Above all she was dishonorable. Strax could not let this last sin go. He came up to Metalmarsh and proclaimed. "You are not the fitting foe I deserve, but you are a foe. And I shall strike you down with honor and might so that you may in death understand what it means to be a warrior. May your death continue to keep this crew safe and provide more proof that I am a true Sontarian!"

Metalmarsh has been killed by Strax.

Elochin has been killed by The Cybermen.

It is now Day 11. You have 48 hours to shed some blood for your hosts to drink. For sustenance.

Who is the most magically wonderful man in the entire Whoverse?

Poll runs till Sun Oct 26, 2014 11:26 pm
You may select 1 option

John Barrowman
4
Chris (2), Epignosis (12), nijuukyugou (16), juliets (18) 21%

John Barrowman
3
Dom (5), Elohcin (13), Hedgeowl (17) 16%

John Barrowman
4
Metalmarsh89 (3), keys56000000000 (4), MovingPictures07 (9), Snow Dog (14) 21%

John Barrowman
3
zeek (6), S~V~S (8), Long Con (19) 16%

John Borrowman!!!

(host/mod/non)
5
bea (1), Roxy (7), fingersplints (10), birdwithteeth11 (11), Made (15) 26%

I have all the PMs now. Going to start working on the night post and get it up ASAP.

Alright. Here is your major, significant change. I'll update the lynch post later on, because I'm doing this while trying to watch football. But for now, I would like to apologize from both bea and myself. She told me that she goofed up the lynch last night and misinterpreted a description of a role. Which, in doing so, led her to declare a no lynch. When in reality, it should have read and is...

Bass has been lynched. He was The Cyber Controller.

So yeah, Bass should have died with his role revealed. I apologize for all the confusion I'm sure has been caused. We return you to your regularly scheduled mafia game of death.

I'm working on catching up (shouldn't be too much longer), but then I will be making a major, significant change when I am done.

Also, if I can get the night PMs in early enough, I will try to get an early post up. I have to be up a bit earlier than normal for work tomorrow because of competition checks, so that way, an earlier night post benefits everyone!

I will not be here when the night post is due up. I'm going to be out with a few friends. Bea will be taking care of it, but it will be a bit on the late side.

Chris wrote:Where'd the lynch go?

I didn't get a screen cap.

SHIT.

OH FUCK...

lynch switch...

Mother fuckers.

We have a poll thread in this subforum. Click on Current Job #2 at the top and you'll see it.

Day 9: Down Goes.....Wait, What?

They had all gathered. They had all decided. Bass was clearly a Cyberman. As a baddie, and someone who had murdered their beloved hosts, he had to go. They gathered with a noose, and slowly started cornering Bass.

"B-b-b-but wait! I did nothing wrong! I'm innocent, I swear!"

He tried to shove his way out of the crowd, but it was too late. They threw him to the ground and proceeded to toss the noose over him and just pull as hard as they could. Until he turned blue in the face and was dead.

They were quite proud of their success. They rejoiced and cheered and celebrated another victory! All because of....

"Wait....you fools!" cried out The Doctor, "That's the wrong person in more than one way!" And with that, he began to slowly weep. Because he saw Turnip Head laying there. One of the sweetest, most caring mothers so cruelly taken from them.

Turnip Head has been lynched. He was Jackie Tyler.

It is now Night 9. You have 24 hours to do your thing.

Sorry for the poor video quality btw. It was the best I could do.

Who is the Killer among us?

Poll ended at Wed Oct 22, 2014 9:25 pm

Bass
10
Dom (5), juliets (6), Turnip Head (8), DFaraday (9), Long Con (10), Black Rock (11), Chris (12), S~V~S (16), keys56000000000 (17), zeek (18) 45%

BR
0
No votes

Chris
4
Epignosis (13), Metalmarsh89 (14), Elohcin (15), nijuukyugou (19) 18%

DFaraday
1
Hedgeowl (7) 5%

Dom
0
No votes

Elo
0
No votes

Epi
0
No votes

Gotrees
0
No votes

Hedgy
0
No votes

JC
0
No votes

Keys
0
No votes

LC
0
No votes

Ninjablooper
0
No votes

Snowy
0
No votes

SVS
0
No votes

TH
2
MovingPictures07 (20), Snow Dog (22) 9%

Evol Pizza Overlords (Host/Non/Dead)
5
bea (1), Roxy (2), birdwithteeth11 (3), sabie12 (4), fingersplints (21) 23%
Total votes : 22

Chris wrote:Here's another one.

HOSTS:

If Strax still had no civ kills going on, and targeted Rory, would that use up Rory's protection? Or would he still have it because Strax can't kill a civ?

If Rory still has his protection, a kill attempt against him from Strax would fail. Regardless of how many civs Strax has or hasn't targeted up to that point.

Chris wrote:
birdwithteeth11 wrote:
Chris wrote:HOSTS:

Does a player with BTSC lose that BTSC if they are recruited? Specifically, did Roxy lose her BTSC with the Daleks when she got recruited?
I've been fairly helpful and honest so far. I've answered quite a few questions. Almost every questions I've been asked, in fact.

This one I shall answer a bit differently though.

I didn't really think yo'd answer that one...

But there were more!

WE DEMAND ANSWERS!!

I don't remember missing any other questions. I only remember those 2 for some reason. If there are others I missed, let me know.

But if it's about those 2, then my answer stands.

Chris wrote:HOSTS:

Does a player with BTSC lose that BTSC if they are recruited? Specifically, did Roxy lose her BTSC with the Daleks when she got recruited?

I've been fairly helpful and honest so far. I've answered quite a few questions. Almost every questions I've been asked, in fact.

This one I shall answer a bit differently though.

Chris wrote:Hey, BWT, while you're fixing things... Sabie and Roxy aren't in red in the players list...

I've fixed a lot tonight. Bea can fix that one. :P But thanks for pointing it out!

Good job, Chris! That is correct!

Also, you all have solved all of the role secrets it seems! Good job!

Everyone who helped has just won the following prize!

keys56000000000 wrote:
Oh Hosts: is there game info to be interpreted in the wording of your night posts?

Only if somebody dies or doesn't die. The ways in which it is written into the night posts is just for flavor.

So to answer your question, no.

Chris wrote:I know it's useless, but here's this:

Dalek Sec:
If someone targets a member of your team with a night action, you can conduct a -a----- experiment on them. A coin is then tossed. If heads, the night action does not work and you flip a coin again. If tails, nothing happens. If the coin lands heads on the second flip, that player will not be able to effectively target your team in any way (outside of being voted) for the remainder of the game. If tails, the night action still does not work, but there are no other effects.

HOSTS: Is the last unknown word correct? It looks like it should be "random", but it doesn't fit.

Put a guess on that last word, and we will find out. :P

The Doctor: The last surviving Time Lord in the universe. He travels through time and space in the TARDIS (Time and Relative Dimension in Space), which is disguised as a police phone box. Usually he travels with a companion or companions. Comes off as mysterious and eccentric initially, but often shows that he is much more complicated than he appears. He cares deeply for his companions, and as such, every night he searches for one of them. Every time he finds one, he gains a permanent ability. If he manages to find at least 3 of them, he gains a special power. *Secrets* If he finds 1 companion, his vote is permanently doubled. If he finds 2 companions, any votes against him count as 1/2. If he finds 3 companions, he gains the ability to create a “day of sunshine” for all civvies. No civvies can be lynched the following day period, and any night abilities used by baddies or the indy will not affect civvies the following night period. Also, given he is a Time Lord, he can regenerate. If he is lynched, he will regenerate (come back to life) after the following night period ends.

In a classic case of a host screwing up...

I actually did the word 'lynched' wrong in the role secrets. It should be 'killed' in all honesty. I read MP's post as it saying 'killed', and went ahead and changed it to that.

I'm leaving the full disclosure on the main page though, because that was my own error in that case. I apologize for any inconvenience or issues this may have caused.

MovingPictures07 wrote:
Long Con wrote:LOL MP, that role decode looks just about right.
Cool. I worked really hard on it, after all!

Hosts:
MovingPictures07 wrote:The Doctor: The last surviving Time Lord in the universe. He travels through time and space in the TARDIS (Time and Relative Dimension in Space), which is disguised as a police phone box. Usually he travels with a companion or companions. Comes off as mysterious and eccentric initially, but often shows that he is much more complicated than he appears. He cares deeply for his companions, and as such, every night he searches for one of them. Every time he finds one, he gains a permanent ability. If he manages to find at least 3 of them, he gains a special power. *Secrets* If he finds 1 companion, his vote is permanently doubled. If he finds 2 companions, any votes against him count as 1/2. If he finds 3 companions, he gains the ability to create a “day of sunshine” for all civvies. No civvies can be lynched the following day period, and any night abilities used by baddies or the indy will not affect civvies the following night period. Also, given he is a Time Lord, he can regenerate. If he is lynched, he will regenerate (come back to life) after the following night period ends.
Is this correct for The Doctor's secrets?

That is correct. Updating it now.

Chris wrote:BWT, before you go, can you answer my missing PMs question?

Sure!

Of all those nights, it looks like Night 6 was the only one with any missing PMs. The other 3 nights, I received all PMs.

Sorry, everyone! But my tiredness has now caught up with me. I'm headed to bed. I get off work at 5 tomorrow and should be home around 6. I've done as much as I can tonight, but I'm still missing a few PMs. I will get the night post up tomorrow night as soon as possible. I apologize for having to make all of you wait again! Makes me feel like a slightly fail host.

I have gotten most of the PMs for tonight. But if I can get all of them relatively soon, then I will go ahead and do all the night stuff. Say, in about 45 minutes or so. That may or may not change depending on how quickly I get tired. I'll try and get it tonight, but if I can't, it will have to wait until I get home from work tomorrow. Sorry to potentially keep all of you waiting on this! I might move the ending times ahead by a few hours for this week too, since earlier times work much better for me right now. Having to wake up before 6 every morning Monday-Friday this week doesn't help with night posts that come at 11:30 or later lol.

I will be out hiking at a state park a few hours away all day. Ideally, the best chance of you all getting a night post on time would mean you all get your PMs in to bea and myself in as timely a manner as possible. Jen, if you could just make sure that our master spreadsheet is updated for me, I should be able to take care of the rest. Thank you everyone and have a good Sunday!

Chris wrote:
Dom wrote:This is already the longest Mafia thread by post count on the site, holy cow
I'm sorry.

Well that gives me a very proud sense of accomplishment then. I hope everyone has been enjoying the game so far for the most part!

I'm going to try and do this without referring to any one person specifically. Because I'm genuinely hacked now.

The main point of this game is to have FUN! I'm starting to see more asshattery (even after bea stepped in and said something). The name-calling and trash-talking stops NOW. The next person I see say anything negative about a person or launch a personal attack instead of playing the game is getting modkilled. If you are frustrated, you have two options:

1) Walk away and calm down.

2) You have people you may reach out to and PM. You have myself, bea, and llama who is modding this game. We have tough skin and if you're frustrated about something, we're more than willing to listen to you vent.

I'm sorry I have to make an announcement like this, but as of now, we're turning over a new leaf and starting fresh. So please enjoy the game for what it is and make it nice for everyone else. Thank you.

Chris wrote:
Lucy Saxon: The wife/companion of Harold Saxon AKA The Master. Every night, she searches for him. If she finds him, they gain BTSC and her win condition becomes the same as that of The Master. If he dies before her, she inherits his kill, but none of his other abilities. If she finds him and he has been targeted by a night action, then her win condition changes to that of the civvies and she does not gain BTSC with him. But if he targets her for a nightkill, it will automatically be blocked.
What if MM never had BTSC with The Master?

His destiny was tied to The Master, until The Master was targeted at night. At that point, he would have continued to search for The Master, but if he happened to find the person with that role, then he would have become a vanilla civ.

Tl;dr: MM is an LMS role regardless of if he actually finds The Master or not.

The only way that changes is if the part you bolded occurs.

Chris wrote:
Chris wrote:A: There are still two sets of "???" above and below Lucy Saxon.

B: I count, currently, 29 role descriptions, and 31 players.
I misunderstood.

So, to clarify, we have to do something to reveal the secret roles?

What did we do to reveal Lucy? We lynched her. Is that the only way to reveal the secret roles?

Bingo. You lynch them, and they get revealed.

That might be the only way to reveal them. There may be other ways. But I won't say anymore on this matter.

Chris wrote:HOSTS:

I asked about the 2 remaining secret roles. I'll ask again.

- Is there any way for us to reveal the 2 secret roles?

- Are the secrets listed in the role descriptions the only secrets for a role? Are there secrets for any roles that aren't listed, even under the tildes?

1) You all managed to reveal 1 of them. So think on that one.

2) Yes. The tildes list all the role secrets for each role. There are no hidden secrets.

Alright. So my internet konked out for that last one. If you all want to play and finish another game, that's fine. Just let me know who ends up winning it. Otherwise, let me know who had the highest score or won if you did finish it. And then I can make sure I remember who that person is.

Also, congrats to Metalmarsh and Hedge for winning the first 2 games. Thanks again to everyone who played tonight! I'm going to bed now and will be back in the morning.

Alright. So anyone who wants to join the second game. Please follow the following link:

http://pyx-2.socialgamer.net/game.jsp#game=19

Btw, the password is case sensitive. You'll have to capitalize the 'Doctor' part of it.

Turnip Head wrote:If you click the link, it asks you to set a nickname. Once you do that you enter the password and it should take you right to the game.

This should be the way to get it to work.

juliets wrote:are we supposed to start or wait?

Go ahead and join the thread. I'll start once we get about 5 or so people.

Also, until I announce the game ends, if you are a late comer, feel free to jump right in and join us!

Alright. I'm going to go ahead and start gathering people for the game. I decided to go with Cards Against Humanity online, since that would be non-game themed, so not as serious and hopefully really funny for all of us. The link is just below. The password you need to put in to join is: Doctorcapaldi

http://pyx-1.socialgamer.net/game.jsp#game=201

I am hoping to do at least 2 games, and possibly a third if we have enough people and the first 2 go quickly enough. So that means 2 or 3 people will receive prizes for this. Good luck!

Also, you have to beat me. Because I'll be playing too. :P

Chris wrote:
Chris wrote:HOSTS: Is there some way for us to reveal the last two roles?
AHEM!

I'm about to eat dinner. I'll catch up and answer any questions after that. So stfu. :P

TH, it does not require any knowledge about Doctor Who to do well. Or even win for that matter. And yes, there will be a prize or prizes available to the winner/winners. The more people that play, the more likely that we give our more prizes.

ATTENTION ALL:

We will be starting our contest/game tonight in about an hour. Bea is at work and unable to join us, but everyone, including deadies and non-players, are more than welcome to join! I will provide a link in the thread once the game starts. Hope to see you there!

Long Con wrote:Ok, here's Rory Williams:

Any negative night actions directed at Amy will be absorbed by Rory, up to and including nightkills. However, given Rory's bravery and fortitude, he shrugs off the first nightkill attempt directed at either himself or Amy.

Some assumptions made on s0ome words, but I think this looks pretty good.

Looks good to me! Updating it on the main page and then I'm going to bed.

And Clara's too. 'Influence' is the correct word there.

Long Con wrote:Ok, here's what I have for The Ood.

If you are targeted by a baddie, there is a fifty percent chance of you entering a ----e---- [different? missing 'e'?] name and redirecting their night action back onto them. This does not include nightkills.

I think this is good for each Civvie to know because maybe someone has targeted someone else and seen it affect a different player... Then that Civvie could say "hey, I trust them, they're the Ood!"

The 'e' is in the correct place. There are no missing letters for that word.

Chris wrote:HOSTS: Is night going to end near midnight EST tonight? Please say no...

I'll be perfectly honest. Unless bea is able to do a night post tonight, then it isn't going up tonight. I have an evaluation/test with work tomorrow, and I'm spending tonight trying to study for that and finish everything I need to finish for tomorrow. So I know there is no way I'm going to be awake long enough to do a night post. Plus I have to allow myself 2 hours to drive to the store that is hosting it (because it's over 40 miles away and traffic in and around Cincinnati is gridlocked sometimes in the morning).

Tl;dr: No night post tonight unless bea is able to do it. Otherwise, it won't come until tomorrow evening I'm afraid.

Long Con wrote:I have The Doctor's role decoded a lot, still missing some parts, but definitely see some juicy stuff there. I also have The Ood decoded, although there's a word in there that, if I'm right, is missing a revealed 'e'.

Shoot bea and myself a PM on it. If I made a mistake, I'll go ahead and correct it on the main page.

Also, as my wonderful hostess forgot to point out, the Cybermen will now kill nightly.

Now back to your regularly scheduled carnage.

Sorry to announce this, but our non-Who-themed contest that we had scheduled for tomorrow night is going to have to be postponed to Friday night. Everyone (deadies and non-players included) is still eligible to participate though. We will be starting around 7PM. And I will be posting a link to the game in this thread around that time. Thank you for your patience.

Hedgeowl wrote:Hosts - what is the definition of alien you are using in the context of Sarah Jane.

Anyone that isn't human. :P

DFaraday wrote:
Hedgeowl wrote:
Chris wrote:BR, why do you suppose I'm getting more suspicion than you or Elo got? Even MP, who survived a NK, suspects me because I survived a NK. How much sense does that make?
Sorry I am still recovering from your latest defense, "dont lynch me because i will die, but if i am the Master why bother?"

I just finished reading through some loooong posts, but to start its not that you survived an NK, its that you survived 2 NKs. Big difference. If you had just survived a strax kill no biggie, you'd probably be civ, but the cybers tried to kill you on the same night? They have a live role checker on their team and if they learned you were the master, they would know just leading your lynch wouldnt be enough. I dont think the argument you are the Cyber controller works, because um, why would you target yourself, but the Master is a real possibility. I am willing to consider civ options, but its a really hard position to defend from i know.
In response to the bolded, it would not be unheard of for a team to "target" a member of their team, knowing full well that that person will survive, so I wouldn't write off Chris as a Cyberman just yet.

Speaking of, I want to point out that Sarah Jane's role says she can survive "alien" attacks. The Cybermen are not aliens, so I wonder whether Sarah can survive being targeted by them. If not, that just makes Chris look even shadier.

For the purposes of this game, Cybermen are aliens.

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