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by reywaS
Thu Sep 04, 2014 6:47 pm
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Topic: Game Over! Monty Python and the Holy Grail
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Re: Day 3 Monty Python and the Holy Grail

Enrique wrote:[img]mikesteffler.com/graphics/suspicious.gif[/img] @ rey. Considering changing my vote to MR if only to stop a potential last second "I'm not caught up" Made lynch. I'll keep my eyes on the poll. Still feel way more strongly about MM than MR.
BWT wrote:and I may not touch Made with a 20-foot pole the rest of this game because of how big that can of worms has become.
You're encouraged to voice your opinion. As long as it's genuine, you should have nothing to fear.
Are you serious? Are you accusing me of lying about not being caught up? lol I've got enough experience in mafia to be able to stick a vote on Made without needing any last second excuse.
by reywaS
Thu Sep 04, 2014 6:40 pm
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Topic: Game Over! Monty Python and the Holy Grail
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Re: Day 3 Monty Python and the Holy Grail

So, here I am...not caught up...close to missing the vote again. :(

Who should I vote for?
by reywaS
Thu Sep 04, 2014 11:10 am
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Topic: Game Over! Monty Python and the Holy Grail
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Re: Day 3 Monty Python and the Holy Grail

Really sorry for not contributing more, guys. Every time I sit down to catch up, I read a couple dozen posts and leave to do something...when I come back to attempt to finish the catch up I am even further behind. As of now, I am 5 pages behind. I will try my best to get fully caught up by the poll deadline, but to be perfectly honest I don't know if I'll be able to. :(
by reywaS
Tue Sep 02, 2014 11:42 am
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Re: Night 2 Monty Python and the Holy Grail

Canucklehead wrote:I don't think it's a switch, peeps, as the civ option I'm proposing. Can no one infer what I'm getting at? I'd really LOVE for you all to try and understand my gist.
I don't think it was a civvie lynch switch at all, and I can't for the life of me figure out what you are proposing happened. Or what possibly happened if a civvie was responsible. :shrug:

I am trying to figure out what you are thinking though. :(
by reywaS
Mon Sep 01, 2014 9:35 pm
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Topic: Game Over! Monty Python and the Holy Grail
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Re: Night 2 Monty Python and the Holy Grail

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For you, God.
by reywaS
Mon Sep 01, 2014 9:33 pm
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Topic: Game Over! Monty Python and the Holy Grail
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Re: Day 2 Monty Python and the Holy Grail

Enrique wrote:
Made wrote:Incase I do die, I would like to clarify.

Early in the game I implied I trusted SVS. What I said was that she had my strongest civvie read. The fact that her logic was on the ball, and has seemed on the ball makes me think she's civve. However I am far from trusting her. Her impluse reason for voting for me through a loop. Out of all the reasons she had to suspect me, the one that actually got the vote seemed off.

Basically, just watch her.

Also Dana's had a gut mafia read with btsc all game. She hasn't talk enough to get a stronger gut on, but it's worth saying. (I conclude this based on the tone I'm use to hearing from her and what I've heard in this game)

Also no point replying to this, 4 minutes left.
"In case I do die." Bud, from what I saw, you were leading the poll by a few votes. Four minutes before deadline, how could you have predicted the outcome?

Based on what I've read from Made so far in this game, I would fully expect him to be freaking out on all of us if he was at all concerned about being lynched. I feel pretty confident that he knew he wasn't going anywhere and this post is something he felt obligated to say.
by reywaS
Mon Sep 01, 2014 6:51 pm
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Re: Day 2 Monty Python and the Holy Grail

Oh no! I missed the effing vote. :(

I'm sorry I got distracted and totally lost track of time. I realized 10 minutes too late.

I probably would have vote juliets unless I saw something in the past hour that would have changed my mind. I'll catch up what happened in a bit.
by reywaS
Mon Sep 01, 2014 5:20 pm
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Re: Day 2 Monty Python and the Holy Grail

Made wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote: Linki: You're distracting, Made.
Come one, I mean shit, all I'm doing is greeting a friend and I get shit for it? If this is distracting, so is The bea/Juliet talking about the draft. So is anyone who posted a YouTube video. Come on dude.
No offense, Made, but I find your approach to this game to be all over the place. It seems like every post I read from you is going in a completely different direction as your post before it. Don't get me wrong, I love your zeal, but it is difficult to try to keep up with the points you are trying to make.
by reywaS
Mon Sep 01, 2014 5:17 pm
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Topic: Game Over! Monty Python and the Holy Grail
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Re: Day 2 Monty Python and the Holy Grail

Enrique wrote:LOL those two consecutive posts where apparently I'm a leading lynch candidate out of the blue are golden. Maybe I'm forgetting something, but this is new, right? I've been a little distracted the last few days. No biggie, still don't intend to get lynched.

Can I just say I disagree with the argument that I only ever talk about the Made / llama deal BS? I've been around, I've called people out, asked to participate, responded to most discussions in this thread so far. Maybe most of my posts have been in my own defense but I've been talking craploads and definitely ventured outside that bubble. I actually really needed this day break lol.

It just sometimes feels like people don't read my posts, you know? And it gets really frustrating when people insist I'm working my ass off to save Made right now when I've made several posts questioning him and generally expressing distrust of him. Hell, if I'm not mistaken, I explicitly said I saw myself voting for him today. And because I know it's coming, I will address that this is not flip-flopping; I'm not voting for him because I'm suddenly convinced by llama's I'm gonna call it terrible "he must have BTSC" argument which I've already made too many posts against to be assed anymore. I'm especially wary of MM continuing to misrepresent my posts and just trying to make me look guilty in general. What's the deal here?

For most of the game I've felt pretty well about SVS, but this LC discussion does shake things a little. I didn't have a problem with her attitude which is where LC's original ping came from, but I'm not big into how she's responded to the accusations. I agree with LC when he says that when you yourself ask the accuser to compare your playstyle to a previous game, you absolutely cannot be trusted. Baddies are self-aware peeps; they learn from their mistakes and they will use previous games as reference to manipulate your opinion. I'm not close to ready to vote for SVS, in general I trust her, but this does remind me to keep an eye out for her. :eye:

People that keep bringing up Hedgie... I think it's pretty funny that nobody ever talks about what the case on her is. It's like she's just a buzz name thrown around by people who want to act like they're all over this game. "Oh yeah, definitely looking at Hedgie's posts," "I'm gonna look back on the Hedgie case to see what's going on." But then there's absolutely no content?? What the hell are you guys thinking? What makes Hedgie stand out from the other 20 players that you're even consider her for a vote? Please enlighten me here!

Something something juliets. I don't trust her a lot, and that exchange with LC definitely pinged me some. Too tired to even think of specific points right now, just sharing how it made me feel reading it. It's reallyy late and I almost forgot to Mafia before bed, but here I am, up to speed again. I will go back on this tomorrow before the lynch. I definitely won't vote for her without having made a case before, but eh, I'm not really that deep into this. I've known juliets on IRC for a few years but I'm not sure we'd ever played together before? It's a lot harder to suspect someone when you're not all that familiar with their style. For the most part I've backed off the llama thing because people insist it's civvie llama talking, it's just my gut disagrees. w/e we'll see
I don't think this is an exclusively baddie tactic...not at all. It could very well be a civvie argument too. I know I have been very frustrated as a wrongly accused civvie and have turned to comparing my style to previous games that had similar situations.
by reywaS
Sun Aug 31, 2014 1:06 am
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Topic: Game Over! Monty Python and the Holy Grail
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Re: Day 2 Monty Python and the Holy Grail

Long Con wrote:
reywaS wrote:
S~V~S wrote:Looking at the roster, Juliets played and she was one of my primary victims, and rey played, he was one of my teammates. But you say that you still think i am suspicious even if they corroborate me.

Linki, made, I have no idea what you are talking about. I thought you were suspicious for suspecting BWT for not being all that in the challenge. This is reminiscent of what happened in a game Roxy hosted in the past, that is what LC & I are talking about. NOT whatever you are talking about.
FWIW, I get where SVS was coming from with her warning about people that try to develop suspicions based on the side game chat. We did it in Roxy's Survivor game and we kicked ass...SVS made it to the very end and IMO only lost because Tranq was a challenge freak. But, yes, a HUGE part of our strategy in that game was to keep suspicions based soley on what happened in the challenges. Lynching poor performers kept the actual baddies under the radar because, well, we were all very active in the challenges. That's how i remember it anyway.

SVS played a helluva game in Survivor, so I don't see anything wrong with her warning in this game. I'm still quite confused over what LC is basing his suspicion of her on. It's not the contents of the warning, but it's the fact that she issued the warning in the first place??? Is that right, LC? :confused:
Sort of. It was the way she repeated the warning, it rang false to me and made me suspect that her purpose for doing so was to have *good, Civvie-intentioned content* in the thread. That's what my gut said. If you don't understand it, then feel free to disregard it. It's my suspicion, my gut, not yours.
I get it now. I was just trying to understand what you were saying.
by reywaS
Sun Aug 31, 2014 12:24 am
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Re: Day 2 Monty Python and the Holy Grail

S~V~S wrote:Looking at the roster, Juliets played and she was one of my primary victims, and rey played, he was one of my teammates. But you say that you still think i am suspicious even if they corroborate me.

Linki, made, I have no idea what you are talking about. I thought you were suspicious for suspecting BWT for not being all that in the challenge. This is reminiscent of what happened in a game Roxy hosted in the past, that is what LC & I are talking about. NOT whatever you are talking about.
FWIW, I get where SVS was coming from with her warning about people that try to develop suspicions based on the side game chat. We did it in Roxy's Survivor game and we kicked ass...SVS made it to the very end and IMO only lost because Tranq was a challenge freak. But, yes, a HUGE part of our strategy in that game was to keep suspicions based soley on what happened in the challenges. Lynching poor performers kept the actual baddies under the radar because, well, we were all very active in the challenges. That's how i remember it anyway.

SVS played a helluva game in Survivor, so I don't see anything wrong with her warning in this game. I'm still quite confused over what LC is basing his suspicion of her on. It's not the contents of the warning, but it's the fact that she issued the warning in the first place??? Is that right, LC? :confused:

bea :D
by reywaS
Sun Aug 31, 2014 12:00 am
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Re: Day 1 Monty Python and the Holy Grail

Made wrote:I think everyone should read this, specifically MP's
Bullzeye wrote:So these are the opinions I have found about the people who are currently on the poll.

MP - I feel like MP started out by saying a lot without saying very much at all. He has a lot of posts with a lot of words in them but doesn't do much with them. Other than SVS he hasn't really came out strongly against anyone. He seemed like he might lean toward Made early on but was never convinced and now seems to have gone away from it entirely, which is fine. Also in my opinion he got quite defensive over Epi's suspicion of him.

SVS - I never know what to think of her in general. She has seemed very focused in her pursuit/suspicion of Made and I think her responses to MP's accusations against her have been quite reasonable. I definitely don't see this 'fabricated suspicion' that MP claims is there, I think she has genuine and understandable reasons to distrust Made. I also think that even baddies usually have genuine suspicions. Furthermore, others are suspicious of him for similar reasons but MP only seems to suggest that SVS' suspicion is the dishonest one. Having read the exchanges between these two I would have to say if one of them is definitely bad and the other civ I'd lean towards trusting SVS. That's not to say I'll vote MP today though but I do have an eye on him so far.

Daisy - It's great to see someone with just three posts after going through SVS and MP's! Only one of her posts is really on topic but I know she's usually very busy so that means little or nothing to me. Her read of MP could be particularly damning for him.

BWT - Just after the challenge ended he said there'd been no serious game-related discussion yet, so maybe he ought to be careful what he wishes for!! Seriously though I do share his dismay at having to keep reading a novel's worth of text every time I log in. He is another who is suspicious of MP and shares my view that MP has said a lot without saying much. I also agree with him that we should back off from the Llama/Made fling for now. He seems pretty genuine and in my experience he's more blendy as a baddie so I'm leaning civ on BWT for now.

Juliets - I'm not feeling great about JC. In my opinion she seems to be trying to fly under the radar, not coming out against anyone. Most of her posts say that she isn't suspicious of Made or Llama but she doesn't seem to make much, if any, effort to say who she is suspicious of. The only hint at who might get her vote today is that she says she will vote to save Llama if necessary. My gut says she's not trustworthy and trying to be blendy.

Llama - I was enjoying not having too many posts to comb through :( He comes off here much like his usual civvie self in my opinion.

Lizzy - Has been missing since Tuesday! Maybe we need to form a search party. Her seven posts are pretty standard Lizzy material. That said, none are on topic or serious in nature but since she disappeared during day zero that's sort of to be expected. I'd like to hear more from her because I know she can be a tricky and dangerous baddie.

LC - I think his point about 'you would know' as a common phrase was good and agree with his view on Made. I'd like to hear more from him though. There isn't enough for me to get much of a feel for where he stands this game. It looks like he might be suspicious of SVS but other than that I'm not sure.

MR - Hasn't posted in a while. The last thing he said was he was joining the 'want to hear more from Made/Rey group' which, as Rey pointed out, he's the founding member of. So I'm not sure what he meant by that. Now that his game is over he might have more time for us so hopefully he makes it in today and can share some of his thoughts.

Canuck - I feel... okay about Canuck. I trusted her for a while in Misfits and was wrong to but here I think she looks quite genuine and I like her point that the baddies could be 'using this insane Made-centric firestorm to stay out of the way and out of memory'. With so much discussion centred around so few people I think it'd be very easy for someone to fly under the radar. She's another I'd like to hear more suspicion from but I feel reasonably good about her.

Dana - Trusted her in Misfits too and I was right for a change. Here she has said a fair bit but, like MP, hasn't really said much. I'm not sure how I feel about her yet.

Made - I doubt I'll vote Made at this point. I think everything that has happened with him here is basically the same as in Misfits, he's just one of those players I guess. I don't necessarily think he's a civ just yet, but I'm not calling him suspicious either.

So overall I guess this is where I stand on the players who are actually on today's poll:

Feel good about: SVS, Llama, BWT, Canuck

Unsure: Daisy, Lizzy, LC, MR, Dana, Made

Feel bad about: MP, JC.
He went on to vote for Juliet.

Based on my reread of him, Bullz has so far played a very strange game. Basically, all he's done (exluding arguements towards Juliet/MP) is attempt to bring accusations and theories to a middle ground.

At this point, the only thing i'm thinking right now is that DF and Bullz weren't on the same time.

Also, Dana needs to say more words.

by reywaS
Sat Aug 30, 2014 1:09 pm
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Topic: Game Over! Monty Python and the Holy Grail
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Re: Day 2 Monty Python and the Holy Grail

Made wrote:
S~V~S wrote:Do you have an opinion on HIS opinion of Hedgie? All you said was that he was replying to you.
Blending in, no one was defending hedgie so it makese sense to hide there. I'd also suspect his teammate didn't have an opinion on Hedgie in chat as to not appear buddie with his teammate
What reason do you think he had for voting MR, since you think he had one?
well let's think about it two ways
If he voted to distance: His teammate probably voted MP (one hides very well the other hides in plain sight
If he voted to protect: His teammate is probably Juliet. Make her appear more likeable (this sounds less likely now that i've typed it out, but still possible)
So the overlap between people who voted for MP and those who are nudgie, or Juliet seem like a good place to start looking for teammates.

I could go back and forth on some of it~ distancing, or protecting teammates?
Samezies
The more i think about this^^^ the more suspicious it looks. I have seen no evidence to suggest that there are 2 person baddie teams. Two person baddie teams are a rarity in mafia. It's quite possible that Made knows a lot more about the baddie team(s) than he should if he was a civvie. :shrug:
by reywaS
Thu Aug 28, 2014 5:16 pm
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Re: Day 1 Monty Python and the Holy Grail

thellama73 wrote:
Bullzeye wrote: In other news, my so-called best friend just nominated me to pour a bucket of ice cold water all over myself. So that's a thing.
I'm challenging you not to do it, and not to publicize your charity or lack thereof, instead of buying into a narcissistic, hypocritical fad.
Oh.my.god.

You are my effing hero.
by reywaS
Thu Aug 28, 2014 4:09 pm
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Re: Day 1 Monty Python and the Holy Grail

S~V~S wrote:
Enrique wrote:No, I'm saying I don't like early bandwagoning like that.
You would rather have the votes spread? That opens thing up to manips, if there are any, and generally favors the baddies in general.

I read this as "mah nips". :haha:
by reywaS
Thu Aug 28, 2014 4:07 pm
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Re: Day 1 Monty Python and the Holy Grail

I got some stuff to do and may not make it back to the game before the poll closes. I'm going to vote for juliets today. I'm not feeling comfortable voting for MP, and I feel pretty good about S~V~S so far. I'm 50/50 on Made as I pointed out yesterday. juliets is the only person on the poll that I am getting vibes from.
by reywaS
Thu Aug 28, 2014 2:51 pm
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Re: Day 1 Monty Python and the Holy Grail

Hedgeowl wrote:Ok, gotta run, so voting SVS for now in case I dont make it back i time.

My feelings currently are that either MP or SVS are possibly a baddie, but probably not both. SVS's super focus on Made earlier in the game, made me suspicious, but then he redirection to Metal I found equally interesting. I would think of her voting for her top suspect. That also might have been to redirect focus from the llama-Enri-Made arguments, but I still thought it was unlike her. It made me think she was reacting to the heat she was getting about her Made suspicions.

Votes SVS
Just wanted to expand on this a little more. Saying that "probably not both" gives you an enormous amount of wiggle room in the event that one of the two of them is lynched today. If you had said that perhaps both of them may be bad, you wouldn't be able to avoid responsibility for the one that's lynched today and you wouldn't have a target for day 2...assuming the one lynched today flipped civvie.

This post rings a very loud alarm bell to me.
by reywaS
Thu Aug 28, 2014 2:46 pm
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Re: Day 1 Monty Python and the Holy Grail

S~V~S wrote:This sounds like a hedge play (tee hee) to avoid responsibility when I turn up civ, "Oh I knew one of them must be bad, guess I picked the wrong one". And have you read what I said? I still suspect Made, but I feel that Enrique has said some things that gave me pause.

What do you think would have been more like me?
I thought almost the exact same thing when I read it. Hedge is setting up Day 2 to be an easy vote. It does not matter which one is actually lynched, there is a prepackaged lynch candidate regardless of today's outcome. :ponder:
by reywaS
Thu Aug 28, 2014 2:17 pm
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Re: Day 1 Monty Python and the Holy Grail

Mister Rearranger wrote:
juliets wrote: i'm a little confused here. MR are you saying it was not good to question Made?
No...? It's always good to question someone in a game of Mafia if you're looking for answers. :shrug:

I wanted to see how Made responded to Rey's questions and how Rey would react to those responses.
And what was your reaction to my reaction to Made's reaction to my question?
by reywaS
Thu Aug 28, 2014 1:27 pm
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Re: Day 1 Monty Python and the Holy Grail

juliets wrote:
Bullzeye wrote:So these are the opinions I have found about the people who are currently on the poll.

Juliets - I'm not feeling great about JC. In my opinion she seems to be trying to fly under the radar, not coming out against anyone. Most of her posts say that she isn't suspicious of Made or Llama but she doesn't seem to make much, if any, effort to say who she is suspicious of. The only hint at who might get her vote today is that she says she will vote to save Llama if necessary. My gut says she's not trustworthy and trying to be blendy.

Feel bad about: MP, JC.
I'm often this way at the beginning of games - not sure who to vote for, not sure what to commit to, just generally feeling like I don't know a lot. I've not come out against anyone because I don't feel comfortable that I've got anything on anyone. I have however said that at least part of what llama said, the essence of what he said, is what I saw. I would say that is pretty definitive and definitely not blendy. I will not vote for llama and I will not vote for made. Over the last day I've been convinced that they are both civs which is I think a conclusion a lot of people have come to. If I have to I'll random with llama and made out of the equation. Otherwise I'm not sure what I'm going to do. Am I the only one in the whole game who is unsure at this point?

Also, I am getting ready to leave town tomorrow and cannot afford to be on this site all day. I will check-in when I can and answer any questions I can at those times.
Yes, you keep saying that you are often like this in the beginning of games...that you are unsure who to vote for, etc...and that may very well be true. But in my experience with you in games as a civvie, you seem to get more proactive in figuring those things out. You ask people for clarification on things you are unsure of for example.
juliets wrote:
Bullzeye wrote:
bea wrote:mm - there was speculation by someone (I really can't remember who - I neeeeeeeedddddd coooffffeeeeeeeeeeee - that her reluctance to jump into the middle of the Made/llama thing was indicitive of baddie behavior. I'm not sure how I feel about that.
In my view she seems reluctant to jump into the middle of anything. That's what gives me bad feelings about her.
What would you like me to jump in the middle of? I dont understand your comment. Has everyone but me jumped in the middle of something? I'm smack in the middle of the made llama thing, isnt that enough?
Yes, you were in the middle of it for a spell, but your hand was forced there wasn't it?
by reywaS
Thu Aug 28, 2014 9:38 am
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Re: Day 1 Monty Python and the Holy Grail

20 million killed in communist U.S.S.R.
65 million killed in Mao's Communist China.


What's not to love about communism???
by reywaS
Thu Aug 28, 2014 9:32 am
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Re: Day 1 Monty Python and the Holy Grail

Mongoose wrote:Does anyone that made a list yesterday feel any differently about his/her list after sleeping on it? (Not at all saying you should, just curious as that often happens to me).
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by reywaS
Thu Aug 28, 2014 12:26 am
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Re: Day 1 Monty Python and the Holy Grail

rude youtube
by reywaS
Thu Aug 28, 2014 12:21 am
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Re: Day 1 Monty Python and the Holy Grail

thellama73 wrote:
Dana wrote:What kind of people do you find irritating?
In mafia, I get irritated at people who can't follow logic (like A Person, who is utterly illogical and whom I've lynched as a civvie multiple times because of it, but I still love him). Sometimes I use game theory (I studied economics in grad school, and now I am realizing that this post sounds arrogant, so I apologize for that. It is not my intention.) to explain why a particular course of action is or isn't beneficial to the civilians, and it drives me nuts when people don't or won't understand the point.

Also, people who misrepresent or misread what I write. 90% of my annoyance in the back and forth with Enrique was because of him misquoting/misrepresenting things and I said and me having to correct him. But I am done with that argument now. From now on I will be a happy, cheerful llama who doesn't take this game personally. :lorab:

Get that last word in, eh? :P
by reywaS
Wed Aug 27, 2014 10:07 pm
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Re: Day 1 Monty Python and the Holy Grail

S~V~S wrote:At this point, i am considering giving Enrique the benefit of the doubt. Something he has said gives me pause. He said something to me during last nights shitstorm, and the more I think about it, the more I want to trust Enrique. He makes a lot of sense. It does not mean he is right, though, and tbh, I am having a hard time thinking both/either MP & Enrique would go out on a limb like this over Made if they were bad together. In WWE, when i was taking suspicion, and MP (my teammate) was nudging me towards the Greyhound, and I whined to him about it, he told me I was "fucking toast" (he died and i went on to win, so :p) but anyhow, I don't see him as someone to ever defend a bad teammate this hard.

But really, Made, stuff like this does not help.
Made wrote:
And metalmarsh, please read this before finallizing your decision.
Oh.... Llama made more points..lol...
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2. He lied about Roxy clearing the chat 8 seconds before, which he somehow "remembered" despite not being there. the way the chat works is if you leave and rejoin, you see all messages you missed. That said, I had chat open and almost got kicked for being afk. When you brought up this point, the last messages were something along the lines of "Roxy cleared chat 8 seconds ago" "Dispor left 10 seconds ago" and "Dana joined 6 seconds ago". Basically this was a joke, as obviously if the messages appeared in that order the time stamps were incorrect.



First off, saying "lol" when people make points doesn't make the game fun for them. Please don't do that. And if I see Llama belittling you, I will scold him as well. I am as old as your Grandma, I am good at scolding people~ I sharpen my knitting needles daily ;)

You did lie. I looked in the side stream to see who was in the room, you were not. None of the times I visited. You did not go in there until well after I said you had not been in there. Now, with you, lying does not mean you are bad obviously (I hate talking about an ongoing game, but it is what it is). But I know what I saw, you were not in there. Dana had been, and Daisy as well. Not you. Not that this is necessarily a bad thing, you said something, and when questioned on it, said the first thing that came into your head. We all do it all the time in rl. Words to live by~ don't do it in mafia.

And I was the first one to bring the no lynch thing back up (I think so at least) becasue I suspected you from that point on. When you tried to justify wanting a no lynch based on the maths, that opened my eyes wide, Made.

reywaS wrote:
Mister Rearranger wrote:Count me in on the "interested in what Made and Rey have to say" group. :)


As far as I know, you are the founding member of this particular group. What is it that you are interested in hearing from me?


:haha:

i missed you a lot real, REAL you who enjoyed Mafia. Glad to see you :hugs:

In Sarcorange, since made likes it so much:

MovingPictures07 wrote:
What happened to the S~V~S that ALWAYS gives newbies a pass on Day 1 (a la Thomas)? Why aren't you understanding here that Made has only played one (speed) game before? I'm not saying you should bypass suspicion of him for that, but you seem to not take it into consideration when you find him suspicious for things. Almost everyone around here is grilling Made, except for perhaps one of the two people that know him BEST (Enrique), for gameplay that is just odd and wacky and inexplicable, but not exactly beneficial for a baddie to take.

So when does a person stop being a nub, MP? Three games? It seems to me that you are almost angry at me for suspecting him. He is one of the most entertaining players i have met in a while, but I did not like a series of things he did, on day one, and am discussing it. Shitstorn ensues. I gotta wonder why. It's funny, YOUR resistance to this suspicion is making me MORE suspicious of him, but Enriques resistance is making me LESS suspicious of him.

How the heck could his day 0 comment about no lynch PING YOU LIKE CRAZY, as you've said? You and I both know there are other sites that have a no lynch option (KSite, for one), and while I agree with you that I don't like the option, how can you not understand a scenario where Made is still pretty new to the game, a lone civvie, and knows only tangentially about the rules of the game, and thought, hey, maybe a no lynch option is in our best interest, even if you disagree?

Becasue it pinged me like crazy. How could me having only one suspect 4 hours into day one ping you so much that it has provoked this level of passion from you? I think No Lynches are a baddie tool, tbh. And that combined with him wanting to discuss the math when no one knows how many are in each faction seemed very like trying to misdirect discussion; he is doing all the things I do when bad. Maybe he's a freaking natural, like Bass, who knows? That is how it pinged the hell out of me.

It's opportunistic because even though you questioned Made you didn't start pushing hard until Llama came forth with his observation.

What benefit would a baddie have to lie about the amount of minutes a chat was closed down or erased?

That isn't even true. I questioned him on Day Zero, about the numbers. Like i said, you seem outraged that I suspect him, and almost seem to be No Uing me FOR him, if that makes sense.

MovingPictures07 wrote:I think Llama is genuine in his suspicion of Made, especially given the way he declared his observations and his posts since. Maybe others are too. But I'm absolutely CONVINCED that baddies would love to jump on this train and then come back and point fingers at Llama and originally me, until I started considering the counterarguments more. I believe one of those baddies is likely S~V~S. Seriously, go back and read her posts. She may have questioned Made about the D0 thing, but she didn't really start ramping up her suspicion of Made until after all of this discussion that Llama started. Additionally, I just can't get my finger around it, but the way you're going about your 'tunnel vision' and the way you've spoken about it just seems like you're trying too hard to seem like your normal civvie self.



Somewhere else you said i was being too aggressive and MORE aggressive than my civvie self. make up your mind. I start to read a few posts, i feel all reasonable like, then I read your posts. I almost feel like you are trying to ramp me up. Nice try if so, but I gave up hypertension for the summer. Try again on tuesday :)

reywaS wrote:Bullzeye, I think it's an exercise in futility to try to figure out how any random baddie team would help (or not) a new player.


Wisdom.

I am at 10 AM ha ha.

Linki, LC I was proud of that game, I had the civvies eating out of my hands. When i have a successful baddie tactic, I look for others doing the same, don't you? Also if talking about it alot keeps the baddies from railroading a civ or two (and my team railroaded at least 5 with that tactic in that game) whats the harm?


aww. why thank you. And thanks again for suggesting I play this game. I'm having a lot of fun so far....even if it does take an hour to catch up each time I come to the thread. :D

S~V~S wrote:


So these are the available people: My opinions in ORANGE!!!!!

juliets Seems a bit bewildered, did not love being called out to verify Mades chat stuff



I was ping-a-linged by juliets for that. Seems like she was/is trying to go out of her way to play a low key game and being called out like that really effed up her plan....like she could be a baddie not wanting to be noticed yet.
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Enrique wrote:Those memories are kinda vital here, AP, that's the deal :p Buuut then, llama's memories are just whatever will get Made lynched. Next thing you know, Made confessed to being a baddie in the Nudgers BTSC.

So yeah llama's looking pretty bad right now. Feel a bit more confident saying that now. I think he's bad and I'll probably vote for him.
The problem I am having with this is why would llama go out of his way to sabotage Made's game? Especially so early in the game and when he could very easily be called out on it?
by reywaS
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MovingPictures07 wrote:
reywaS wrote:Bullzeye, I think it's an exercise in futility to try to figure out how any random baddie team would help (or not) a new player.
This is probably true.

Now I'll entertain Made being bad, but I think the way everything has gone down so far has convinced me that it's not as likely. You told me not to presume, Rey, and I agree what you said is possible, but what are you currently thinking about it?
Last night I was leaning about 65/35 in favor of Made being bad. I should point out, however, that last night I spent a solid hour reading the thread and getting into mafia for the first time in over a month. After sleeping, returning to the thread, and reading everything that's been said since, I am back to 50/50. The fact that this is only Made's 2nd game and remembering all the noobs (myself included) that start off their mafia "careers" being wrongly lynched gives me pause for certain. I'm not ready to vote for Made quite yet. At the same time, if I HAD to vote right now, I would vote that way.
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Bullzeye, I think it's an exercise in futility to try to figure out how any random baddie team would help (or not) a new player.
by reywaS
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So, Made, just to be clear, you are saying that you were logged into the chat before, during, and after the time Roxy cleared it?
by reywaS
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Mister Rearranger wrote:Count me in on the "interested in what Made and Rey have to say" group. :)
As far as I know, you are the founding member of this particular group. What is it that you are interested in hearing from me?
by reywaS
Tue Aug 26, 2014 11:37 pm
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I will wait for Made to post his rebuttal to all of this before I get into presuming. :D
by reywaS
Tue Aug 26, 2014 11:34 pm
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MovingPictures07 wrote:
reywaS wrote:Irrational behavior doesn't equal baddie behavior necessarily...but it is possible.

1. baddie makes a slip.
2. baddie get nervous.
3. baddie behaves irrationally because baddie doesn't know how to rationally cover up the slip.
Sure, that's possible, and it's happened before. I presume you think Made did indeed make a slip then?

I'm going to sleep on it.
Don't presume. I said it's possible.
by reywaS
Tue Aug 26, 2014 11:28 pm
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Irrational behavior doesn't equal baddie behavior necessarily...but it is possible.

1. baddie makes a slip.
2. baddie get nervous.
3. baddie behaves irrationally because baddie doesn't know how to rationally cover up the slip.
by reywaS
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MovingPictures07 wrote:
reywaS wrote:
Yes, I was about to also clarify this for MP. I will add that I think it's weird that Made added the "No, I went off memory" comment into juliets text and then added the "well, fuck me" as a separate post outside of juliets post. That seems like he's trying to deceive someone. :shrug:
But this is someone who multiple times said "if he were" and even more declarative statements that he was on a baddie team and was just revealed to be a civvie. And it's just his second game.

I just think if he had was a baddie, he would have learned so much from all the craziness he committed in Misfits and would be playing differently. He's a paranoid as F civvie. Totally reminds me of MR F in a way.

It just all seems too easy.
So, essentially you are giving him a free pass this game to be suspicious? That's exactly what this post sounds like.
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thellama73 wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:Fair enough, S~V~S. I'll sit on it. I'm just making observations as to what I think as I read the thread. SOMEONE has to be bad. :P




reywaS wrote:
Made wrote:
juliets wrote: Made, did you really go to the chat room to find this out?
No i went off memory I don't understand why SVS didn't see that you had been there.

For anyone wondering, once llama brought that comment up by made I remembered it. And I don't remember anyone saying "you should know". I certainly would never say something like that and those of you who know me well know that. With that said, I do not have a perfect memory and worry about reporting what I remember. I agree I'm concerned with this but it's more that there is something to add to it, whether he was in the chat room at the end.

I have not read through the entire post-game thread but felt like I needed to ask that question (sorry if it's already been answered made) and also give you my take on the comments made.
Well fuck me.....
You went "off memory" that Roxy had cleared the chat 8 seconds earlier? :ponder:
I found JC's post weird here too, and I didn't want to say anything just yet, but she's one of the few in the category I mentioned earlier (that I was hoping would post more because she's pinged me just a bit), but she doesn't have enough content thus far, and I wasn't sure if I was just being silly. I'm honestly not sure what to think of her yet, but this post made me crick my brow a bit.
Just to clarify, Made inserted the "went off memory" line in answer to Juliets' post. She didn't write it. And it is a crazy, nonsensical thing for him to have said.
Yes, I was about to also clarify this for MP. I will add that I think it's weird that Made added the "No, I went off memory" comment into juliets text and then added the "well, fuck me" as a separate post outside of juliets post. That seems like he's trying to deceive someone. :shrug:
by reywaS
Tue Aug 26, 2014 11:05 pm
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S~V~S wrote:FOUR DAYS INTO THE GAME, ha ha ha. I need to spend less time getting high ha ha
:fiesta:
by reywaS
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Made wrote:
juliets wrote:
Made wrote:Roxy cleared the room 8 seconds ago, so i can't check exactly who asked if i knew something...
Made, did you really go to the chat room to find this out?
No i went off memory I don't understand why SVS didn't see that you had been there.

For anyone wondering, once llama brought that comment up by made I remembered it. And I don't remember anyone saying "you should know". I certainly would never say something like that and those of you who know me well know that. With that said, I do not have a perfect memory and worry about reporting what I remember. I agree I'm concerned with this but it's more that there is something to add to it, whether he was in the chat room at the end.

I have not read through the entire post-game thread but felt like I needed to ask that question (sorry if it's already been answered made) and also give you my take on the comments made.
Well fuck me.....
You went "off memory" that Roxy had cleared the chat 8 seconds earlier? :ponder:
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Epignosis wrote:
Mongoose wrote:I feel like MP is probably staying UTR because he's died early in a lot of games recently (well like always on TS, unfortunately) and playing safe can be a smart move if you tend to draw a lot of fire early. Not that I would at all understand this plight at all. Ahem.
Exsqueeze me? Baking powder? (That's surely a Monty Python reference)

How is 33 posts by Day 1 staying under the radar?

MP died early in a game (The Hobbit) because I lead a Day 1 lynch against him and he was bad. Other than that, he WON Are You Being Served? Mafia and he WON Occultism Mafia. He has not died early in anything this year other than The Hobbit, when he was an evil smelly necrophiliac goblin.
by reywaS
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S~V~S wrote:That game was in my Top 5 for sure. It was literally an Epic game, there were, what, 50 players? It needed 4 hosts, lol. And it must have been a ton of work for them. Had it ended, I doubt we would have won, I was flailing badly when Rabbit disappeared. But we lynched a lot of civvies that game, and had an awesome chatroom, good times :slick:

So tonight, if this challenge is anything like the SURVIVOR challenges, we need as many people here as we can get. Challenges were fun in that game, but they required teamwork.
Speak for yourself. :P I think I was in good position to stick around till the end. :D
by reywaS
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Dana wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
Dana wrote:Oh wait what I didn't have a free choice here? My bad. Pls don't kill me hosts I just want to play a fun game :'(
This is indeed an inauspicious beginning for you, young Dana. :)
Sorry! I read fast to try and catch up and just voted for what sounded best. I didn't know I had to keep a balance!
Don't feel bad! I didn't read anything and just voted, so that could have very easily been me. :D
thellama73 wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:Don't sweat it, Dana. I've seen way worse newbie mistakes before. :P
Name four.
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