Sorry Neon.
Sorry Mata.
Sorry Dennis.
I wanted to try something new to open up the game. Sorry you wanted UFC championship fight and I wanted to see who would nibble.
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I wanted to try something new to open up the game. Sorry you wanted UFC championship fight and I wanted to see who would nibble.
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so when you make a rainbow list and you have two or more people grouped in red it means-----nothing? Or that they could be connected?
Dennis wrote:Not gonna lie I didn't really think much before and Neon is lower than I said when I answered seanzie, but not my first chop
They're not ordered within groups
Lemonfairy
Roxy
DrWilgy
fingersplints
Epignosis
falcon45ca
Neon
SixStrings
Matahari
Seanzie
Ironically and my gamestyle suggest I do not vote until later in the 48 hour cycle. I don't hop votes about willy nilly.
slammed me with my own linesSeanzie wrote: ↑Thu Apr 13, 2023 9:47 amI didn't say you said that. I said it felt like that's what was between the lines. Nice way of twisting a post to suit your needs of the moment.Roxy wrote: ↑Thu Apr 13, 2023 9:16 amI never once said "No! We need to mis-yeet a low posters! Don't look elsewhere!"Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Apr 13, 2023 9:01 am Roxy's most recent post really pinged me since it kind of felt like "No! We need a misyeet in the low posters! Don't look elsewhere!", but meh, I'm not sure if that's enough to shake their position too much. Especially since I still find the low posters to be the most likely to flip wolf here.
When I am looking elsewhere and I am a low poster myself ffs!
Nice way of twisting a post to suit your needs of the moment.
I am not including you when I talk about low-posters. There is a stark divide between the content of Falcon/SixStrings/Matahari and everyone else. The average # of posts per living player is 59+2/3 and you are at 54 posts, so you are actually a mean poster.
How else am I supposed to interpret " Even if your teams are all low posters, who cares at this point?" To me, that discourages me from looking elsewhere.
I never once said "No! We need to mis-yeet a low posters! Don't look elsewhere!"Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Apr 13, 2023 9:01 am Roxy's most recent post really pinged me since it kind of felt like "No! We need a misyeet in the low posters! Don't look elsewhere!", but meh, I'm not sure if that's enough to shake their position too much. Especially since I still find the low posters to be the most likely to flip wolf here.
Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 3:32 pmMy hed is all over the place, apparently still fuzzy from hanging out with you on your porch.Spoiler: show
Most of the day yesterday I really thought Neon would just be a hit, but then with EoD completely dead, it made me feel like I'm probably on the wrong track. At this point, I need to go back to the drawing board and just consider everyone carefully again, since currently I'm having a hard time forming teams that aren't just the low posters, but that doesn't actually match how EoD happened, so I think I am misclearing.
I'm late for a meeting, but I'm hopefully going to put my hed back into one place eventually.
I'm curious as well, but I am also curious about your hed.Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 1:50 pmHave you looked through their ISO?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 1:41 pmSeanzie wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 1:26 pmWhy Mata?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 1:14 pmSeanzie wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 1:04 pm I don't really like how everyone is suddenly jumping on the low posters, but honestly I don't want to move to FX with multiple slots with very little content since that just forces us to roll dice. As such, I'd like to offer up Falcon here here, but I also think we should be very critical of who is pushing where and how.
I know a lot of people are talking about Matahari, but out of the low posters, Matahari definitely has done the most, and I kind of liked how when they were pushed about their D1 reads, they were just like "meh, I was GTH, I don't really have much to go on", which is the sort of laidback attitude that isn't unfakable, but that I more associate with town (rather than scum wo feel more pressure to have an explanation).
SixString is at best full on rand, even though I do have a question: @SixStrings you cited Wilgy and Epi as reasons to vote for Lemonfairy, but you had Epi on your scumlist, were you worried about listening to one of your scumreads on another?
Falcon is technically the most active of the 3 low posters, but honestly there really... just isn't anything there. Falcon can be lazy as town, but also definitely can town it up and there are times where I feel confident calling Falcon town, but this is not one of those times. On the other hand, scum!Falcon really doesn't town it up.
[VOTE: Falcon] aubergine
@falcon45ca get in here and do things if you're town.
Boom baby
I don't have a good reason
Many people have very short ISOs here. Can you look through Mata, Six and maybe Roxy's ISO (all 1 page) and give some thoughts? I'd like to see where your head is at.
@DrWilgy you didn't understand this?Roxy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 12:48 pm Yes splints I agree
Unbeknownst to splints I purposely said I thought her take about SVS was ping-worthy.
It wasn't. splints is Townie.
I did it to see who would jump onboard hoping for an easy imv/lhf elim.
Dennis - I was keeping an eye on you and I am sorry to say you have failed my test.
To me looks like we have a double teaming with Epi all - Roxy, Roxy, Roxy.
And Dennis all - splints, splints, splints.
Roxy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 8:08 am
?????????? What do you mean "scooped" by Roxy?Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 11:41 pmScooped by Roxy.Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 7:48 amWhy am I so high?Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 10:53 pm oh I forgot to post my list but I was at:
Roxy
Seanzie
Dennis
fingersplints
Matahari
falcon
SixStrings
Epignosis
DrWilgy
Neon
I'm kind of wavering a bit now though and not as sure as I was before on some people
Yes splints I agreefingersplints wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 4:24 amNo we are not “fighting” and no it doesn’t have to be one between the two of us at all.
I don’t think it’s a very townie look to be trying to narrow down the focus to just two people when we are in a bad situation.
Unbeknownst to splints I purposely said I thought her take about SVS was ping-worthy.
It wasn't. splints is Townie.
I did it to see who would jump onboard hoping for an easy imv/lhf elim.
Dennis - I was keeping an eye on you and I am sorry to say you have failed my test.
To me looks like we have a double teaming with Epi all - Roxy, Roxy, Roxy.
And Dennis all - splints, splints, splints.
yes exactly. splints is Townie along with me.Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 7:55 amUnless both FS/Roxy are wolves, I think this is a decent look for FS since usually wolves would just push the townie in a difference check containing them rather than try to say that it doesn't have to be a difference check.fingersplints wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 4:24 amNo we are not “fighting” and no it doesn’t have to be one between the two of us at all.
I don’t think it’s a very townie look to be trying to narrow down the focus to just two people when we are in a bad situation.
?????????? What do you mean "scooped" by Roxy?Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 11:41 pmScooped by Roxy.Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 7:48 amWhy am I so high?Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 10:53 pm oh I forgot to post my list but I was at:
Roxy
Seanzie
Dennis
fingersplints
Matahari
falcon
SixStrings
Epignosis
DrWilgy
Neon
I'm kind of wavering a bit now though and not as sure as I was before on some people
Yes splints I agreefingersplints wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 4:24 amNo we are not “fighting” and no it doesn’t have to be one between the two of us at all.
I don’t think it’s a very townie look to be trying to narrow down the focus to just two people when we are in a bad situation.
I agree you have done this twice that I have seen but I've only been back fir a few games.Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 6:05 pmYou could ask the audience for verification of this if you don't trust me or want to go look. I also can go look if you need it, but I am lazy and don't want to.fingersplints wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 5:47 pmYea but I mean you know damn well someone like me isn’t going to go through other games to see if this is trueSeanzie wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 5:40 pmI have literally said the exact same thing about Falcon in like four other games. Like... unless you're trying to say that I'm only saying it to meta-replicate or something more nuanced, my take on Falcon is extremely NAI and should not affect your read on me IMO.fingersplints wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 4:39 pmSean was his early comments about falcon.Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 4:21 pmhmmmmfingersplints wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 12:10 pm PoE today Sean, Mata, six, neon
I got natural wariness of Epi. Also niggling things about lemon and dennis.
Everyone else is town leaning atm
why Sean and Mata?
Mata is careful in her words as always. Don’t have much of a case there. Just how I feel. And it comes down to who I feel best about and who is left.
Can someone chime in here?
Neon wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 5:07 pm We have Lemon hard tunneling anyone who suspects them
Dennis voting me for being confused on progression
Roxy pushing me because they can't get over the last fucking game
Splints voting me for pointing out that there was a fallacy in their stated feelings.
Seanzie voting me for the 5th time in a row all of which I was town
Tell me town didn't already lose this game
Tell me my wagon is actually pure
Tell me these pushes on me are good. Sean is the only one pushing me in good faith here.
It's such a fucking joke.
I think Dennis and Seanzie are town atm.
apparently you visited me on my porchSeanzie wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 7:48 amWhy am I so high?Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 10:53 pm oh I forgot to post my list but I was at:
Roxy
Seanzie
Dennis
fingersplints
Matahari
falcon
SixStrings
Epignosis
DrWilgy
Neon
I'm kind of wavering a bit now though and not as sure as I was before on some people
lmao
like this post I pulled at random Wigly your thoughts read to me like:DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 9:42 pm There was some interactions more towards the end of D1 Dennis that looked like T Dennis. Either this is true or W Dennis has gotten better at faking reads.
Seanzie feels within his town range, He's kinda been doing middling work, especially how they've been re Epi and I associate that with his town play. During a recent game where I was misyeeted, Seanzie went hard for my push and was just unrelenting. I'd expect to see more behavior akin to that if W.
Neon's frustration during the SVS thing I still tl. I don't think W Neon tries to push the same point over and over, I think W Neon moves on.
@Syn I have not "patted" anyone on their back for being og. And have said nothing about "lowly" newbies. I am still adjusting to the new style since coming back after a very long hiatus. I point out the diff in play styles a lot, I know. It's bc I have been elimmed A LOT since coming back. Now I point out diff even more, not be like this is the "true way". I do not know what "grok" means so - yea. ok.Syn wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 1:54 pmIs SVS a strong player? I wouldn't know, given that you and she keep patting each other on the back for being "OG players" and us lowly newbies with the different play styles couldn't possibly grok the intricacies of The True WayRoxy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 11:19 am @Syn - hey, yeah I mentioned in an earlier post that you came out of the whole "um what" party looking like a baddie who lost his chance to take down a strong player. And then said something about pocketing and waiting to see if you were right until D 4. Why wait? Hunt baddies now. You didn't find one with SVS so why give up the towns goal of hunting a baddie and elimming them?
also, I can't believe this needs to be explained, but behaviour surrounding a contentious situation becomes more relevant after flips have occurred. my post was a snide way to say that you can assess the SVS series of posts and the subsequent arguments later on to see if wolves ignored it or used it to gain town cachet. there is no "now" for that, given the limitations of linear time
Matahari wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 12:29 pm Holy hell, I thought I'd never get caught up from last night to now. Everybody starts posting in the last half of day. Same here ig.
@S~V~S I wish I had some great insights, but I don't. One of the issues with being a slanker and just reading posts looking for sincerity and motive behind posts, and such, is that sooner or later, people post again and answer any questions I might have had.
There are 4 or 5 players I am unfamiliar with, and it's difficult to understand them. Neon and Falcon have suspicion on them, and they have sort of disappeared. If anyone who is familiar with them knows whether that indicates anything about their alignment, please post about it?
Of the players I have history with, I have to say, you are all the players I could never read, including our host. Epignosis, SVS, Splints, and Dr. Froggie being the most difficult. Sometimes it takes a couple days for me to settle on alignment for y'all. These are my best guesses so far:
Town: Splints, Wilgy
Lean town: SVS, Roxy, Epig, Dennis
Undecided: everyone else.
I'm sorry I'm not more help on this, but it's early still.
I've had doubts about several players throughout but then after more posting, the doubts were cleared up. So I'm sure I'll change my mind again as the game goes on.
GTH plzSeanzie wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 11:25 amI don't have any reads.Roxy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 11:19 am @Dennis - pal you really are getting the hang of this game and yep I feel like you are honestly trying to hunt baddies this time. Right now I am giving you the botd and see how it goes. I am unable to classify you at this time.
@DrWilgy - you are feeling less involved this game, doesn't affect your alignment tho I feel like I am having a hard time gauging your reads. Some feel a bit forced but I am unsure what or if that means anything. I am feeling townish from you but Imma need more from you, pretty please.
@Epignosis - Hi buddy <3 been sooo long since we have played together. So has you style changed? That remains to be seen. What I have noticed is that you are QUIET. Not at all like I remember. You have given a couple of insights but tbh I am really unsure of who you suspect or why. Can you help out the town by giving a rainbow or reads list?
@falcon45ca - hey I hope my read on your tell is accurate bc right now it is saying you are town. Thanks for this as I am unsure about a number of people this game.
@fingersplints - yes I lean town on you. It's the splints I know and love. I am so happy to playing together again. <3 What are your thoughts inre: Neon, Dennis, Epi, Mata, Six and Seanzie?
@Lemonfairy - I have already said you came out of the SVS vs the "Um What" fiasco looking the best to me. You felt Town to me. I am digging the way you seem to be vibing this game. Why do you think Syn seems townie vs why Epi seems bad? Why are Mata and Six in your list? Is it bc they have not said much or is it what they have said?
@Matahari - Yay!! We are playing together again. I am looking forward to your reads and am hoping to sort you after it.
@Neon - you bad. You seem to be playing in the same fashion as last game and I cannot let it go rn. After the "um what" crazy that you helped perpetuate you seemed like a player who was mad bc no one wanted to buy what you were selling about SVS. You are not adding anything new to the game and will not give reasons for your actual votes/suspicions and I find that suspicious in and of itself.
@Seanzie - You seem quite fluffy except in your defense of falcon. What are your actual thoughts on the game state. GTH reads if you would pretty please.
@SixStrings - welcome back. You gave some insight about SVS during the whole "um what" discussion while awesome to join in I feel you need to say way more than what you have. You do not know any of us but still like I asked Seanzie - if someone is holding a gun to your head what are your reads at this moment of each player?
@S~V~S - at the time of me defending you I really was not sure about you hence my " I don't speak for SVS" thing. Since you have posted more I do feel like the same as splints. I can call you town.
@Syn - hey, yeah I mentioned in an earlier post that you came out of the whole "um what" party looking like a baddie who lost his chance to take down a strong player. And then said something about pocketing and waiting to see if you were right until D 4. Why wait? Hunt baddies now. You didn't find one with SVS so why give up the towns goal of hunting a baddie and elimming them?
lol you did the same to me last game as well bc it was a vibe tone thing for you and said you could not explain an actual suspicion.Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 10:38 ammy bad for not processing it last time
easier to catch when it's directed at me lol
lemon: you found the thread quiet? and tried to liven it up.Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 10:32 am for context to #75, this was what I was trying to doLemonfairy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 05, 2023 8:29 pm ok maybe I'll take random posts and force reads because that's fun and productive
meh it is what happened to me last game, remember?
we play diff.Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 9:56 amI don't really think it's lazy though?S~V~S wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 6:48 am We obvs have different styles of play; I agree that hunting low posters rather than baddies is lazy, and back in the day, it was kinda looked down on a bit. I know that is no longer the case, and I've moved past my personal feels on this. But some people have a slow time starting, and sometimes low posters *are* bad. But statistically, we all have the same odds of being town, and i think it's better to let them have a chance to play. And after a certain time frame, being a low poster in and of itself can be suspect. But not on day one, or prolly even day two.
sure, it's lazy if you just exe the people with the lowest posts without thought but if you're trying to find towns first, it's just something that comes with the process sometimes
lol no it's not that I disagree that you are poss Townie splints, I disagree with how he got there, but whatever works for himfingersplints wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 9:49 amOh no lol we’ve been friends a long time and I’d love for you to read me wrong. I’d consider that a win lol
I’ll be the sacrifice that meta mafia demanded
fingersplints wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 9:44 amMe? To come back to later you nub. Consider it my bookmarkRoxy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 9:39 amcatching up.....Dennis wrote: ↑Thu Apr 06, 2023 1:52 pmProbably because they were like the start of this, and then they backed off just to try and throw shade at like everyonefingersplints wrote: ↑Thu Apr 06, 2023 1:51 pm Idk why but I feel weirdest about Syn coming out of this. Gotta think about why that is
if you don't know why ypu are saying this then
can you quote post #75 to make it easier for those of us in the nosebleed section?
it was Seanziefingersplints wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 8:59 am There is someone else who said something like “falcon is notorious for his anti spew” (paraphrasing here) but if falcon is mafia look at whoever this person is