you are just....gross? Lmao what a beautiful use of this art
You are on a roll lately congrats @Kate <3
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Sorry if shading you means actually asking questions and noting your playstyle is indeed different. Also noting that you have been snippy. I said that I thought Kate had cleared herself by the end of D 1.Zenon wrote: βThu Jun 08, 2023 1:55 pmNo you are bad because you are shading me adding fuel to a runaway wagon on a town while keeping your hands clean and trying to take away credit from the one fucking thing I've been able to do this game by saying it wouldn't have even mattered if I had succeeded any ways
That's wolfy as fuck
but I am not *on* you. I simply am asking questions. I am sorry if I am adding to your annoyance.
I do not remember or know you well enough to rememberQuin wrote: βThu Jun 08, 2023 3:39 ami was not defending myself against mechanical accusations. i was defending myself against a bad-faith interpretation of a post i made.Thunal33 wrote: βThu Jun 08, 2023 12:11 am [VOTE: Quin] aubergine
I'd rather go here than Zenon today. Zenon had a couple town pings for her like being openly proud of her cool ability and her reaction to me claiming the genny shot being that she was right on me. Meanwhile I had a ping on Quin only really defending himself from mechanical accusations like him lying about not doing anything and for saying Seanzie's interpretation of Quin not doing anything never comes from town.
i answered your question as to why seanzie's interpretation of 'zilch' was shit already.
if there's two scum left, it's both of you.
You also get a bit snippy when bad which is how this post is reading.Zenon wrote: βThu Jun 08, 2023 1:53 amSure right okay i did this but I'll do it again.
A. I'm way too good of a wolf to sub into a game and coast like this. But lol wifom
B. No wolf behaves like I am. Wolfs need to survive especially down packmates and getting destroyed. I am good enough to do that but I'm ruffling fathers I am pissing Scotty off I'm not trying to make myself less of a target I don't value my life for the most part how is that Wolfy?
C. I was trying to clear the best player in this PL do you think that's Wolfy?
thank you <3Dubz wrote: βWed Jun 07, 2023 4:42 pmI've been really unlucky with rolls so I haven't used my art for anything yet. And had one stolen or something last night so even less of a chance of doing anything useful now.Roxy wrote: βWed Jun 07, 2023 4:34 pmvote analyzing is great but have you used your art and what have you learned that could help the town?Dubz wrote: βWed Jun 07, 2023 4:08 pmNot at that point (yet), it was the first vote.Quin wrote: βWed Jun 07, 2023 4:06 pmwas pyxxy at risk at all d2? if not i don't think it's enough to clear since it could just be distancing.
I'm gonna look at how it develops but it's just...not how PSV tends to treat her packmates. She does more interaction distancing vs plopping votes on them that might take off.
If your answer is going to be no than can you give some reads? I have never played with you and would love to get some kinda vibe/tone from you.
I am using the vote analysis to work through reads. I'm going to summarize things once I get through the vote tracking and can spend some time looking at it. But off the top of my head right now, I've already mentioned I have Scotty and pyxxy in town reads. By transient property, Dennis would be in there too from Scotty's green check. I think falcon and thun are probably village too, so that leaves Zenon, Quin, sean, and you. I still think Sean is okay but that's more vibes so will revisit that with looking at votes and interactions.
vote analyzing is great but have you used your art and what have you learned that could help the town?Dubz wrote: βWed Jun 07, 2023 4:08 pmNot at that point (yet), it was the first vote.Quin wrote: βWed Jun 07, 2023 4:06 pmwas pyxxy at risk at all d2? if not i don't think it's enough to clear since it could just be distancing.
I'm gonna look at how it develops but it's just...not how PSV tends to treat her packmates. She does more interaction distancing vs plopping votes on them that might take off.
thank you <3Quin wrote: βWed Jun 07, 2023 4:05 pmi'll only clarify enough to say that i did use an action last night.Roxy wrote: βWed Jun 07, 2023 3:48 pmno not in so many words but it felt implied tbh that your roll each night was not high enough. Maybe I am reading into something that isn't there? I was hoping for some clarification is allQuin wrote: βWed Jun 07, 2023 3:39 pmi didn't say that.Roxy wrote: βWed Jun 07, 2023 2:45 pmNobody is asking for a play by play (at least I don't think so) just want to know if you learned anything. Seems easy enough to answer which you did after this post saying for the second night in a row you didn't get to do anything.Quin wrote: βWed Jun 07, 2023 8:29 am this question isn't just for seanzie but for everyone to consider:
let's say im bad and am lying. i have a piece of art that i can (attempt to) do practically anything with, with my night action being only limited by my imagination. in this case, why on earth would i choose my lie to be "i didn't try to do anything"?
Unless I am missing something in your posts that you can point to.
The only way for townies to communicate are in the thread during Day phases and reads etc. If you are townie then help, please.
I think this depends on the host. Bc it does in my games.Zenon wrote: βWed Jun 07, 2023 3:56 pmDocs don't block checksRoxy wrote: βWed Jun 07, 2023 3:28 pmThunal33 wrote: βWed Jun 07, 2023 3:20 pmI outed that he visited Kate so he had to claim some action on Kate. Same with Zenon.Roxy wrote: βWed Jun 07, 2023 2:47 pmIf he did in fact poison Kate then why would he ever say anything about Kate to begin with? Knowing a poison was used?Seanzie wrote: βWed Jun 07, 2023 10:24 amI agree with this. The only flipside I am considering is what someone else suggested (can't remember who) that Falcon COULD have done something like poisoned Kate. Then in the moment seeing that Kate was watched, decided to claim a cop check thinking that Kate was going to die anyways (even though also inadvertently giving Kate a lot of threadpull). However, I would guess it is more likely that scum decided to day-action kill Kate while/after she singlehandedly built a PSV wagon yesterday to prevent people from night-action protecting her.Thunal33 wrote: βWed Jun 07, 2023 10:20 am I think Falcon's cop check on Kate was extremely protown to the point where I have a hard time believing mafia would do it. Think about it, Kate was suspecting genny and is someone with a reputation for having good reads. Why would a mafia surrender thread control to Kate with the cop check? Falcon could have claimed anything with a visit to Kate, and there are a whole lot of things he could have claimed that didn't confirm Kate as town.
@Zenon what was the cool ability you tried to use n1?
this is copied from my reads list about Zenon:
"One other thing is you said you protected Kate in the night, how did falcon get the green check if she was protected?"
tbf though the poisoning could have been done in the daytime during the elim by museum art.falcon45ca wrote: βWed Jun 07, 2023 3:41 pmProtected Kate...and then Kate dies in a very poisoned type of wayRoxy wrote: βWed Jun 07, 2023 3:35 pmyes Zenon admitted it in the thread at the start of Day 2, she said she had protected Kate.Seanzie wrote: βWed Jun 07, 2023 3:31 pmIDR who but somebody watched Kate and mentioned that Falcon and someone else (Zenon maybe?) visited her N1.Roxy wrote: βWed Jun 07, 2023 2:47 pmIf he did in fact poison Kate then why would he ever say anything about Kate to begin with? Knowing a poison was used?Seanzie wrote: βWed Jun 07, 2023 10:24 amI agree with this. The only flipside I am considering is what someone else suggested (can't remember who) that Falcon COULD have done something like poisoned Kate. Then in the moment seeing that Kate was watched, decided to claim a cop check thinking that Kate was going to die anyways (even though also inadvertently giving Kate a lot of threadpull). However, I would guess it is more likely that scum decided to day-action kill Kate while/after she singlehandedly built a PSV wagon yesterday to prevent people from night-action protecting her.Thunal33 wrote: βWed Jun 07, 2023 10:20 am I think Falcon's cop check on Kate was extremely protown to the point where I have a hard time believing mafia would do it. Think about it, Kate was suspecting genny and is someone with a reputation for having good reads. Why would a mafia surrender thread control to Kate with the cop check? Falcon could have claimed anything with a visit to Kate, and there are a whole lot of things he could have claimed that didn't confirm Kate as town.
no not in so many words but it felt implied tbh that your roll each night was not high enough. Maybe I am reading into something that isn't there? I was hoping for some clarification is allQuin wrote: βWed Jun 07, 2023 3:39 pmi didn't say that.Roxy wrote: βWed Jun 07, 2023 2:45 pmNobody is asking for a play by play (at least I don't think so) just want to know if you learned anything. Seems easy enough to answer which you did after this post saying for the second night in a row you didn't get to do anything.Quin wrote: βWed Jun 07, 2023 8:29 am this question isn't just for seanzie but for everyone to consider:
let's say im bad and am lying. i have a piece of art that i can (attempt to) do practically anything with, with my night action being only limited by my imagination. in this case, why on earth would i choose my lie to be "i didn't try to do anything"?
Unless I am missing something in your posts that you can point to.
The only way for townies to communicate are in the thread during Day phases and reads etc. If you are townie then help, please.
Seanzie wrote: βWed Jun 07, 2023 3:34 pmYou're welcome for the gift btw:)Roxy wrote: βWed Jun 07, 2023 3:31 pmI thought I had gotten a double for the price of one but when I reread my result it stated that Seanzie visited You and Genny. When I first saw it I thought it had said that Seanzie and you had both visited Genny but I was wrong. I am sorry I cannot confirm but Seanzie could.Thunal33 wrote: βWed Jun 07, 2023 3:29 pmOn a side note, your n1 feedback is such a Nanook response lol.Roxy wrote: βWed Jun 07, 2023 3:23 pm N 1 I failed to track Thunal bc my roll was too small so all I was told was that Thunal was a player in the game.
N 2 I successfully tracked Seanzie and seen he visited Thunal and Genny.
I unsuccessfully tried to give someone a posting restriction but it failed. (would have been funny to me)
I also received a gift which I will not tell what it is.
After I said I shot Genny, you said "this tracks." I assumed you had info that confirmed that, did you?
yes Zenon admitted it in the thread at the start of Day 2, she said she had protected Kate.Seanzie wrote: βWed Jun 07, 2023 3:31 pmIDR who but somebody watched Kate and mentioned that Falcon and someone else (Zenon maybe?) visited her N1.Roxy wrote: βWed Jun 07, 2023 2:47 pmIf he did in fact poison Kate then why would he ever say anything about Kate to begin with? Knowing a poison was used?Seanzie wrote: βWed Jun 07, 2023 10:24 amI agree with this. The only flipside I am considering is what someone else suggested (can't remember who) that Falcon COULD have done something like poisoned Kate. Then in the moment seeing that Kate was watched, decided to claim a cop check thinking that Kate was going to die anyways (even though also inadvertently giving Kate a lot of threadpull). However, I would guess it is more likely that scum decided to day-action kill Kate while/after she singlehandedly built a PSV wagon yesterday to prevent people from night-action protecting her.Thunal33 wrote: βWed Jun 07, 2023 10:20 am I think Falcon's cop check on Kate was extremely protown to the point where I have a hard time believing mafia would do it. Think about it, Kate was suspecting genny and is someone with a reputation for having good reads. Why would a mafia surrender thread control to Kate with the cop check? Falcon could have claimed anything with a visit to Kate, and there are a whole lot of things he could have claimed that didn't confirm Kate as town.
Well not in any games I have hosted, A protection applies to all abilities used against the protected not just nk's but roleblocks, posting restrictions, poisoning, alignment checks, lie detectors etc.Thunal33 wrote: βWed Jun 07, 2023 3:31 pmAfaik whether Kate was protected or not doesn't interfere with the alignment check results. Standard protection is just protection from NKs, other roles can still target Kate.Roxy wrote: βWed Jun 07, 2023 3:28 pmThunal33 wrote: βWed Jun 07, 2023 3:20 pmI outed that he visited Kate so he had to claim some action on Kate. Same with Zenon.Roxy wrote: βWed Jun 07, 2023 2:47 pmIf he did in fact poison Kate then why would he ever say anything about Kate to begin with? Knowing a poison was used?Seanzie wrote: βWed Jun 07, 2023 10:24 amI agree with this. The only flipside I am considering is what someone else suggested (can't remember who) that Falcon COULD have done something like poisoned Kate. Then in the moment seeing that Kate was watched, decided to claim a cop check thinking that Kate was going to die anyways (even though also inadvertently giving Kate a lot of threadpull). However, I would guess it is more likely that scum decided to day-action kill Kate while/after she singlehandedly built a PSV wagon yesterday to prevent people from night-action protecting her.Thunal33 wrote: βWed Jun 07, 2023 10:20 am I think Falcon's cop check on Kate was extremely protown to the point where I have a hard time believing mafia would do it. Think about it, Kate was suspecting genny and is someone with a reputation for having good reads. Why would a mafia surrender thread control to Kate with the cop check? Falcon could have claimed anything with a visit to Kate, and there are a whole lot of things he could have claimed that didn't confirm Kate as town.
@Zenon what was the cool ability you tried to use n1?
this is copied from my reads list about Zenon:
"One other thing is you said you protected Kate in the night, how did falcon get the green check if she was protected?"
I thought I had gotten a double for the price of one but when I reread my result it stated that Seanzie visited You and Genny. When I first saw it I thought it had said that Seanzie and you had both visited Genny but I was wrong. I am sorry I cannot confirm but Seanzie could.Thunal33 wrote: βWed Jun 07, 2023 3:29 pmOn a side note, your n1 feedback is such a Nanook response lol.Roxy wrote: βWed Jun 07, 2023 3:23 pm N 1 I failed to track Thunal bc my roll was too small so all I was told was that Thunal was a player in the game.
N 2 I successfully tracked Seanzie and seen he visited Thunal and Genny.
I unsuccessfully tried to give someone a posting restriction but it failed. (would have been funny to me)
I also received a gift which I will not tell what it is.
After I said I shot Genny, you said "this tracks." I assumed you had info that confirmed that, did you?
Thunal33 wrote: βWed Jun 07, 2023 3:20 pmI outed that he visited Kate so he had to claim some action on Kate. Same with Zenon.Roxy wrote: βWed Jun 07, 2023 2:47 pmIf he did in fact poison Kate then why would he ever say anything about Kate to begin with? Knowing a poison was used?Seanzie wrote: βWed Jun 07, 2023 10:24 amI agree with this. The only flipside I am considering is what someone else suggested (can't remember who) that Falcon COULD have done something like poisoned Kate. Then in the moment seeing that Kate was watched, decided to claim a cop check thinking that Kate was going to die anyways (even though also inadvertently giving Kate a lot of threadpull). However, I would guess it is more likely that scum decided to day-action kill Kate while/after she singlehandedly built a PSV wagon yesterday to prevent people from night-action protecting her.Thunal33 wrote: βWed Jun 07, 2023 10:20 am I think Falcon's cop check on Kate was extremely protown to the point where I have a hard time believing mafia would do it. Think about it, Kate was suspecting genny and is someone with a reputation for having good reads. Why would a mafia surrender thread control to Kate with the cop check? Falcon could have claimed anything with a visit to Kate, and there are a whole lot of things he could have claimed that didn't confirm Kate as town.
@Zenon what was the cool ability you tried to use n1?
coming after my catch up along with my night stuffs
If he did in fact poison Kate then why would he ever say anything about Kate to begin with? Knowing a poison was used?Seanzie wrote: βWed Jun 07, 2023 10:24 amI agree with this. The only flipside I am considering is what someone else suggested (can't remember who) that Falcon COULD have done something like poisoned Kate. Then in the moment seeing that Kate was watched, decided to claim a cop check thinking that Kate was going to die anyways (even though also inadvertently giving Kate a lot of threadpull). However, I would guess it is more likely that scum decided to day-action kill Kate while/after she singlehandedly built a PSV wagon yesterday to prevent people from night-action protecting her.Thunal33 wrote: βWed Jun 07, 2023 10:20 am I think Falcon's cop check on Kate was extremely protown to the point where I have a hard time believing mafia would do it. Think about it, Kate was suspecting genny and is someone with a reputation for having good reads. Why would a mafia surrender thread control to Kate with the cop check? Falcon could have claimed anything with a visit to Kate, and there are a whole lot of things he could have claimed that didn't confirm Kate as town.
Nobody is asking for a play by play (at least I don't think so) just want to know if you learned anything. Seems easy enough to answer which you did after this post saying for the second night in a row you didn't get to do anything.Quin wrote: βWed Jun 07, 2023 8:29 am this question isn't just for seanzie but for everyone to consider:
let's say im bad and am lying. i have a piece of art that i can (attempt to) do practically anything with, with my night action being only limited by my imagination. in this case, why on earth would i choose my lie to be "i didn't try to do anything"?
It's going to be hard to trust anyone after Apathy happened.
If you look back just a bit you can see all the weird quotes Lemon posted that supposedly showed how town psv wasScotty wrote: βTue Jun 06, 2023 8:59 pmThunal33 wrote: βMon Jun 05, 2023 5:29 pm I'm not actually sold on PSV anymore and I'm currently ISOing pyxxy to see if I want to go there. One thing that I thought of about the ping that PSV stuck me in her PoE was that if she were a wolf, she might have been *more* consistent to try to telegraph her change on me from townlean to PoE instead of just sticking me there.potentialsheltervet wrote: βMon Jun 05, 2023 5:29 pmThunal isn't the one who made a case on meLemonfairy wrote: βMon Jun 05, 2023 5:28 pm I don't really get the case on PSV (and lowkey want to vote Thunal for it)
Thatβs not a good look
Not sure if I agree on Seanzie or Thunal (just yet)Kate wrote:Kate
Falcon
Thunal
Scotty
Dennis
Roxy
Lemonfairy
Zenon
Quin
Pyxxy
PSV
DUBZ
Seanzie
Genny
Nah read my catch up pretty elim EoD.
Someone trying to save...genny? Perhaps?Quin wrote:thread flow vs 5 vote wagon on lemonfairy with no counter tells me lemonfairy is town (yall are way too comfortable with it)
at least 2 scum voting for them. who are they?
Quin wrote:i dont think genny has to be scum for the 5 lemon voters to be worth scrutiny. town has been complacent on the lemon wagon, scum may as well ride that wave if lemon is town.
Kate wrote:Well I wouldn't exactly call it a case, it's more like a future feel on the ways I've seen her play before. I get the sense that she hides a bit as a baddie. Reread her face whole posts. See if you catch a vibe.
Last game I played over at sdn I thought you were bad, I even voted you twice and kept moving off bc I was out of my comfort zone and wouldn't trust my gut. I'm not going to do that again here. I have another post to show you. One sec.
Kate wrote:If the others are correct on lemon, this would be the post that won me over. It reads dishonestly. Its short and has no beef. Plus, he targets genny firat as a "possible" baddie in case she goes out, a little distance. Then throws in thurnal, who, if I'm correct with this theory would be civ cleared.Lemonfairy wrote:[VOTE: SCOTTY] aubergine
I'm still here probs
wouldn't mind Genny/Thunal
Very shortly thereafter, more suspects, but genny is gone. Why?Lemonfairy wrote:I have a vague feeling of Scotty/Dubz/Seanzie/Thunal but my brain tells me that's too good to be true
and it probably is
And there's thurnal again, but at the end of the list. Like he's putting him out there but not pushing him too hard.
If genny flips bad, I'd flip lemon next.
thanks for this as I am on page 13. So far the only pings I have had are PSV and to a lesser extent Thunal but I may be jaded where they are concerned as they just rocked Planet Mafia.
and what does this tell you?
Probs someone she could godread, except that person feels very towny rn.Scotty wrote: βSun Jun 04, 2023 2:00 pmfalcon45ca wrote: βSun Jun 04, 2023 1:25 pmShe's prolly town, I think I was reading too much into things.
What's your take on Thunal?
If Thunal is right, then you supposedly visited Kate.
Do you have any mech info on who killed Porscha praytell?
Scotty feels normal. What did you see that was "unhinged"?potentialsheltervet wrote: βFri Jun 02, 2023 4:05 pm Quin's entrance was weird and Creature has been basically nonexistent.
I'm also wondering if this is typical Scotty we're seeing? He sounds a little... Unhinged I guess is the word I would use. That isn't what I saw from him in the only other game I played with him.
Thank you Scotty <3
oh sorry about the previous post I was right they are song lyrics one probs with this is I post videos when I am a caught wolf and have given up.potentialsheltervet wrote: βMon Jun 05, 2023 4:36 pm Anyway, I'm here, clearly. I get really tired of defending myself and it isn't at all fun for me. So if you have questions you can lay them on me. Otherwise I'll continue posting song lyrics.
just back a page or two in my catch up but are these songs lyrics?potentialsheltervet wrote: βMon Jun 05, 2023 4:15 pm Have you heard the news that you're dead?
No one ever had much nice to say
I think they never liked you anyway
meh it was early in D 1 and I had hopes seeing some of your reads and you lining up our first baddie elim. This was all I found. I shouldn't expect more from you but I do. Not fair to you but we can't help you are a mafia savant.Kate wrote: βSun Jun 04, 2023 9:00 pmThis is roxys only on topic post.Roxy wrote: βSun Jun 04, 2023 11:35 amWould a town Kate give up about wanting to know secrets this easily? And with Dennis no less?Kate wrote: βFri Jun 02, 2023 5:46 pmOh fun. More secretsDennis wrote: βFri Jun 02, 2023 3:06 pmMost of the time, it's because I don't think I'd done anything AI when they made the read, and if I had I want that specified. In this case pyxxy said it very in passing, and didn't answer me the first time I pushed him
So its a combination of I want to know what he thought is AI, not allowing him to just ignore a question like that, and especially since pyxxy and I get along easily I'm pretty susceptible to him trying to pocket me. I also have a secret theory that's possible that I won't share as of now
TKate where are you?
I want to know what Dennis was meaning being this post.
Today is my last few hours with Ariya so I'll be in and out at her leisure until later
So I counter with, would a town rox pop in and directly for her friend Kate? You didn't think I looked civ, hmm
I'd bet sweetiepie is in bed by now, so where's tRoxy?
Would a town Kate give up about wanting to know secrets this easily? And with Dennis no less?Kate wrote: βFri Jun 02, 2023 5:46 pmOh fun. More secretsDennis wrote: βFri Jun 02, 2023 3:06 pmMost of the time, it's because I don't think I'd done anything AI when they made the read, and if I had I want that specified. In this case pyxxy said it very in passing, and didn't answer me the first time I pushed him
So its a combination of I want to know what he thought is AI, not allowing him to just ignore a question like that, and especially since pyxxy and I get along easily I'm pretty susceptible to him trying to pocket me. I also have a secret theory that's possible that I won't share as of now
this left me giggling I consistently remind my son of things he may or may not have forgotten lmao <3Scotty wrote: βThu Jun 01, 2023 12:27 pmI got an Escher calendar when I was younger and ripped out each month and put them all up in my room as some makeshift exhibit.
I think theyβre still there, dunno. Havenβt been back to my childhood house in years (which my mom constantly reminds me)
what do you mean building a class?