The Syndicate

MacDougall wrote:

Roxy wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:Rox is here!

Rox, who would you like to lynch today, if no one had any votes?

You will find out when I vote tbs.

Linky zebra - reading stuff into my posts when they are not even directed at you is a bit egotistical. That was directed to Mac in case you could not tell by the quote of his I pulled.

Linki: Roxy why are you so mean?

MacDougall wrote:

Roxy wrote:

MacDougall wrote:I guess Zebra but like, we are literally 3 of the 4 highest posters in the game so our opinions by now are well documented. As long as while I'm asleep you make sure any lurkers who show up do it.

I will say NO ONE has to do anything of the sort. Why should zebra force people to do something they do not want to do? Whwen I go to sleep to night you need to make sure everyone posts a picture of their favorite Star Wars scene. See ridiculous to tell people what they need to do.

Ugh this post is whack. Why on Earth would anyone not want to do it. You literally just did it in a giant list?

a2thezebra wrote:OKAY I'M STARTING. YOU MUST DO IT BECAUSE I AM THE LEADER OF A FASCIST REGIME, BEWARE BEWARE

linki - Will do.

MovingPictures07 wrote:Rox is here!

Rox, who would you like to lynch today, if no one had any votes?

MacDougall wrote:I guess Zebra but like, we are literally 3 of the 4 highest posters in the game so our opinions by now are well documented. As long as while I'm asleep you make sure any lurkers who show up do it.

Roxy wrote:

Elohcin wrote:Roxy, I might have underlined your name at that time, but I actually waited to vote. If the voting was time-stamped you would be able to see that it is true.

Sorry I had no iodea bc you only just mention it now that I bring it up. I am not sure I believe it though. Bc you said you waited for a response before you voted when I showed that you didn't you suddenly say you waited to vote after you said you were voting.

All the other things you say are "odd behavior" don;t have any merit. It is not odd to go from not suspecting someone to suspecting someone. It happens EVERY day in Mafia. You say I make accusations that aren't true. I guess you are referring to me saying that your posts sounds angry when you say you were insulted. That is my OPINION.

In YOUR opinion they have no merit. The accusation that was not true is not anything about me being insulted it was about you saying you waited for a response from me BEFORE you voted - which I have shown is simply untrue. So not that you insulted me- got it? It was bc you said you waited for a response from me when you did not.

You SOUNDED angry to me. Lastly, you say I ignored you responses to why you thought others were suspicious. That is simply not true as I gave my thoughts on them. That is anything but ignoring. I don't think you have anything on me whatsoever. I will be disregarding your posts unless you can come up with something new. I cannot say your name in Mafia anymore without you flying off the handle (IMO) and it's getting old.

How can I sound angry? Can you hear me when I post? I have repeated said I am not/was not angry. I was insulted at the post you said I pulled my suspicions from "shit out of my butt".
Insulted does NOT equal anger. And you repeatedly saying i was angry does not make it true.
What do you mean I fly off the handle when you say my name in mafia? Am I not supposed to reposnd to weird votes on me? Am I not supposed to respond to false accusations? I thought this was point of the game. I am sorry if I hurt your feelings. You act this happens all the time when this is only the second time we have gone head to head in a game and its old already? Why is it not old when you go head to head with others? Why only me? Why do you assume I am angry when I am not?

Disregarding posts in mafia is not a very civ like mentality imo.

Linki MP: I'm going to double check, but I don;t think I ever said anything about zebra being manipulative, only quiet. I do remember someone else saying she was being manipulative though

limki MP, again: What are your thoughts on Roxy?

Elohcin wrote:Roxy, I might have underlined your name at that time, but I actually waited to vote. If the voting was time-stamped you would be able to see that it is true.

All the other things you say are "odd behavior" don;t have any merit. It is not odd to go from not suspecting someone to suspecting someone. It happens EVERY day in Mafia. You say I make accusations that aren't true. I guess you are referring to me saying that your posts sounds angry when you say you were insulted. That is my OPINION.

You SOUNDED angry to me. Lastly, you say I ignored you responses to why you thought others were suspicious. That is simply not true as I gave my thoughts on them. That is anything but ignoring. I don't think you have anything on me whatsoever. I will be disregarding your posts unless you can come up with something new. I cannot say your name in Mafia anymore without you flying off the handle (IMO) and it's getting old.

DFaraday wrote:

Roxy wrote: DFaraday - I am suspicious of you bc you are playing a game that I am not used to seeing from you. It is NOT blendy. Which troubles me greatly. You have provided original thoughts and suspicions which is so far out of the norm for you that I have this feeling about you. You are bad. Maybe indy but I feel its more likely that you are bad.

Sweet Christmas, I just can't win. I get lynched in 90% of the games I'm in for being blendy, and now I'm being suspected for having original thoughts?

I don't know what to say other than to assure you assure you that I am not bad. Even with posting original thoughts, I'm really not a threat to anyone in this game.

Elohcin wrote:My response in pink.

Roxy wrote:Elo care to respond to the points I made against you? And also to my questions since you have ignored them since the last lynch?

Roxy wrote:I just quick read Elo's posts. odd things:

She has never mentioned me as a suspicion before.
So what? You sll of a sudden starting sounding suspicious to me.
She did not bother to wait for a response before voting.
not true. you responded with overdefensiveness and anger. That is when I voted.
She makes accusations that are simply not true.
Show me.
She ignored my answers to people wanting to know why I was suspiciousof them.
I did not. I said they were unreasonable.

Cfd ELO HAHAHA

Lie #1
It is true Elo. Here is the first time you mention me and you vote in the same post BEFORE you say I was angry even though I said I was not angry - just INSULTED at the way you say I pulled "shit out of my butt"

Elohcin wrote:

sig wrote:

Bullzeye wrote:Yay! I'll catch up as quick as I can but in the meantime if anyone would like to summarise what has gone on so far I'd appreciate it.

Canucklehead wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:

Roxy wrote:The people I think are bad and I will bevoting one of them:

Zebra
DFaraday
Dom
TheFloyd
Canuck
Wiggly
Ninjabloops

dear Roxy,
Could you please explain why I am on that beautiful list?

Much love,
Wiggly

Me too, please.

Roxy wrote:Also MP he is doing that thing again.

What thing?

Roxy your list does seem a little willy nilly with no explanations.
Welcome Bullz even though you tried to lynch me the last game we played together. :P

So I'll give a quick and hopefully unbias summary.
A portion of the players including myself has been suspicious of Enrique for awhile, Enrique claims to be poisoned and we've had alot of back and forth about him. Day 1 we lynched Matt who flipped as Boba Fett a third party. Day 2 the lynch was between Enrique and Bass (I believe) and Bass ended up getting lynched. He flipped Ackbar a civ. Yesterday bcornett24 was lynched and he flipped as Jabba one of the mafia, we are know thinking Enrique/Simon are teammates of bcornett24 which is a reason for the Enrique lynch

The first two phases neither mafia team submitted a kill . After Matt and Bass subbed in the Empire killed which is leading me to believe one of them is a mafia member or another inactive member who picked up on there activity.

Not sure how active I'll be today so I'm voting Enrique know instead of later.

Good summary sig, that was kind of you. I could get behind a Matt lynch. He seems to be taken aback with his new role as he isn't posting. I wonder if he subbed into a baddie team of non-participants.

Roxy wrote:

Canucklehead wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:

Roxy wrote:The people I think are bad and I will bevoting one of them:

Zebra
DFaraday
Dom
TheFloyd
Canuck
Wiggly
Ninjabloops

dear Roxy,
Could you please explain why I am on that beautiful list?

Much love,
Wiggly

Me too, please.

Very simply its your lack of voting which equals follow through in my book. The only vote you made in this game is for Cloud City.

Linky dang give me a minute I needed coffee., nervous?

What about your lack of voting?

Roxy wrote:Simon is also on my list bc one minute he is following my vote the next he is suspicious of me.

goodness, none of your reason seem civ-like to me. Just b/c someone votes that same way as you doesn't mean they think you are civ. You seem to be pulling shit out of your butt I can't decide if I should vote for you or for Matt. I think I am going to go ahead and vote Roxy. Its too much for me to ignore.


And what is CFD?

Roxy wrote:Why do you think my response is angry? Why not insulted? bc that is what it was.

My opinion was that it sounded like you were angry. I believe others agreed with me. SO I am not the only one that thought you came off that way.

AGAIN - I was not angry just insulted at the disgusting way you describe my suspicions. I do not care what others do what I care about is what you do and how *you* respond since I am questioning *you* and not others who you say agreed with you.

You said "lack of voting" impling more than one.
I don't believe "lack of voting" implies more than one. It means that at some point you didn't vote. I mentioned this because you were getting all over someone else's case for not voting when you had missed a vote yourself.

I missed ONE vote Canuck had missed EVERY vote except for Day 0 - - its different if you cannot see that then I cannot help you.

Why not wait for a response? Why not respond to the odd things I pointed out about you?
Again, I did wait for your response. And what odd behavior? Please share examples as I have no idea what you are referring to

Linky

Elohcin wrote:My response in pink.

Roxy wrote:Elo care to respond to the points I made against you? And also to my questions since you have ignored them since the last lynch?

Roxy wrote:I just quick read Elo's posts. odd things:

She has never mentioned me as a suspicion before.
So what? You sll of a sudden starting sounding suspicious to me.
She did not bother to wait for a response before voting.
not true. you responded with overdefensiveness and anger. That is when I voted.
She makes accusations that are simply not true.
Show me.
She ignored my answers to people wanting to know why I was suspiciousof them.
I did not. I said they were unreasonable.

Cfd ELO HAHAHA

Lie #1
It is true Elo. Here is the first time you mention me and you vote in the same post BEFORE you say I was angry even though I said I was not angry - just INSULTED at the way you say I pulled "shit out of my butt"

Elohcin wrote:

sig wrote:

Bullzeye wrote:Yay! I'll catch up as quick as I can but in the meantime if anyone would like to summarise what has gone on so far I'd appreciate it.

Canucklehead wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:

Roxy wrote:The people I think are bad and I will bevoting one of them:

Zebra
DFaraday
Dom
TheFloyd
Canuck
Wiggly
Ninjabloops

dear Roxy,
Could you please explain why I am on that beautiful list?

Much love,
Wiggly

Me too, please.

Roxy wrote:Also MP he is doing that thing again.

What thing?

Roxy your list does seem a little willy nilly with no explanations.
Welcome Bullz even though you tried to lynch me the last game we played together. :P

So I'll give a quick and hopefully unbias summary.
A portion of the players including myself has been suspicious of Enrique for awhile, Enrique claims to be poisoned and we've had alot of back and forth about him. Day 1 we lynched Matt who flipped as Boba Fett a third party. Day 2 the lynch was between Enrique and Bass (I believe) and Bass ended up getting lynched. He flipped Ackbar a civ. Yesterday bcornett24 was lynched and he flipped as Jabba one of the mafia, we are know thinking Enrique/Simon are teammates of bcornett24 which is a reason for the Enrique lynch

The first two phases neither mafia team submitted a kill . After Matt and Bass subbed in the Empire killed which is leading me to believe one of them is a mafia member or another inactive member who picked up on there activity.

Not sure how active I'll be today so I'm voting Enrique know instead of later.

Good summary sig, that was kind of you. I could get behind a Matt lynch. He seems to be taken aback with his new role as he isn't posting. I wonder if he subbed into a baddie team of non-participants.

Roxy wrote:

Canucklehead wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:

Roxy wrote:The people I think are bad and I will bevoting one of them:

Zebra
DFaraday
Dom
TheFloyd
Canuck
Wiggly
Ninjabloops

dear Roxy,
Could you please explain why I am on that beautiful list?

Much love,
Wiggly

Me too, please.

Very simply its your lack of voting which equals follow through in my book. The only vote you made in this game is for Cloud City.

Linky dang give me a minute I needed coffee., nervous?

What about your lack of voting?

Roxy wrote:Simon is also on my list bc one minute he is following my vote the next he is suspicious of me.

goodness, none of your reason seem civ-like to me. Just b/c someone votes that same way as you doesn't mean they think you are civ. You seem to be pulling shit out of your butt I can't decide if I should vote for you or for Matt. I think I am going to go ahead and vote Roxy. Its too much for me to ignore.


And what is CFD?

Roxy wrote:Why do you think my response is angry? Why not insulted? bc that is what it was.

My opinion was that it sounded like you were angry. I believe others agreed with me. SO I am not the only one that thought you came off that way.

AGAIN - I was not angry just insulted at the disgusting way you describe my suspicions. I do not care what others do what I care about is what you do and how *you* respond since I am questioning *you* and not others who you say agreed with you.

You said "lack of voting" impling more than one.
I don't believe "lack of voting" implies more than one. It means that at some point you didn't vote. I mentioned this because you were getting all over someone else's case for not voting when you had missed a vote yourself.

I missed ONE vote Canuck had missed EVERY vote except for Day 0 - - its different if you cannot see that then I cannot help you.

Why not wait for a response? Why not respond to the odd things I pointed out about you?
Again, I did wait for your response. And what odd behavior? Please share examples as I have no idea what you are referring to

Linky

Roxy wrote:I just quick read Elo's posts. odd things:

She has never mentioned me as a suspicion before.
She did not bother to wait for a response before voting.
She makes accusations that are simply not true.
She ignored my answers to people wanting to know why I was suspiciousof them.

Cfd ELO HAHAHA

Roxy wrote:Why do you think my response is angry? Why not insulted? bc that is what it was.

You said "lack of voting" impling more than one.

Why not wait for a response? Why not respond to the odd things I pointed out about you?

Linky

Canucklehead wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:

Roxy wrote:The people I think are bad and I will bevoting one of them:

Zebra
DFaraday
Dom
TheFloyd
Canuck
Wiggly
Ninjabloops

dear Roxy,
Could you please explain why I am on that beautiful list?

Much love,
Wiggly

Me too, please.

Bullzeye wrote:Floyd is also on Roxy's list and he no longer exists in this game...

DrWilgy wrote:

Roxy wrote:The people I think are bad and I will bevoting one of them:

Zebra
DFaraday
Dom
TheFloyd
Canuck
Wiggly
Ninjabloops

Could you please explain why I am on that beautiful list?

Much love,
Wiggly

a2thezebra wrote:I'm just going to leave this here while I have some pasta.

MovingPictures07 wrote:Hey, YOU, player reading and hardly posting.

Guess what?

You're a low poster. You hear me? You will be feeling the heat. You better participate soon. NOT posting is NOT a strategy to play the game, regardless of your alignment.

Dom wrote:

Roxy wrote:

Dom wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:

Enrique wrote:She's a she.

I don't want to vote for Bass... when he talks about "when I flip civ" I believe he's being genuine. I'll still vote to save myself because I can only be certain of my role, but still, I'd much rather see Roxy get the noose today.

Enrique wrote:Bass

I know it's early, but I think I've found my Day 3 vote.

For different reasons-- I'm inclined to be on the same page.

Though, bass is suspish to me too.

You dont say.....
*PING*

For what?
For thinking Enrique is bad for different reasons than A2z?

a2thezebra wrote:

Roxy wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:

Roxy wrote:Sorry I missed the vote and I would have voted zebra for playing a manipulative game.

I think you need to elaborate extensively on two things.

1. How I'm being manipulative.
2. How you're not.

I dont *have* to do anything. If you dont mind I will play my own way and I do not need to be told what I do or do not need to do.
Besides almost every post you make is twisty and manipulative. I am not gonna pull a hundred quotes to show you anything.

Perhaps I should have bolded, enlarged, italicized, and underlined the "I think" part. It goes without saying that you don't have to do these things, but completely failing to elaborate on any of your seemingly confident assertions isn't going to help me respond to you objectively and it isn't going to help convince anyone else that you're right. You seem to be okay with that (and by that I mean not helping town), so I won't bother you further.

Dom wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:

Enrique wrote:She's a she.

I don't want to vote for Bass... when he talks about "when I flip civ" I believe he's being genuine. I'll still vote to save myself because I can only be certain of my role, but still, I'd much rather see Roxy get the noose today.

Enrique wrote:Bass

I know it's early, but I think I've found my Day 3 vote.

For different reasons-- I'm inclined to be on the same page.

Though, bass is suspish to me too.

a2thezebra wrote:

Roxy wrote:Sorry I missed the vote and I would have voted zebra for playing a manipulative game.

I think you need to elaborate extensively on two things.

1. How I'm being manipulative.
2. How you're not.

DFaraday wrote:RIP Bass. I think the Bass voters will be a good place to start, especially since the votes started piling onto him with hardly any discussion.

Enrique wrote:Sig, this is gonna sound like bullshit, but I definitely misread one of your Day 1 posts as saying that I was looking less Mafia to you, not more. So when I saw you'd voted for me hell yeah I was surprised. I'm sorry if "two faced" came across as an insult, I'm not that petty (and really this is a game where we call each other "scum" all the time). But from an in-game perspective that's exactly what it would've been. I take it back now. You were consistent (ly misguided) when talking about me. I was looking at it wrong.

Zeeb is doing a fine interrogation job with Roxy, I must say. The fact that she's trying to justify her vote for Matt, which she originally said was random... doesn't bode very well. Zebra showcases Roxy's other attempts at misrepresenting her, such as the tons of excuses and guns blazing against Golden. I think Roxy is looking very worthy of some eyes here.

A few scattered thoughts:

I've found myself agreeing with BC and Golden a lot so far. Like I was talking with Alex earlier, maybe it's a playstyle thing, maybe it comes from a shared perspective, I can't know for sure. But for now I'm inclined to trust them.

I don't want to let Russ off the hook, but you know what I suspect? That he's indie. I don't think a Hutt would immediately come into the thread and publicly link his name to the team right now. If you're a Hutt and one of your first posts is bullshit logic about why you want to go to Jabba's palace (or wherever the hell he lives), then that's just extremely silly and way risky. And despite that, I can't make myself believe him! I'm convinced there was an ulterior motive there, the original reasoning didn't quite cut it in the first place and his subsequent posts have read a lot like bullshit to me. Give me a bit and I'll deliver on some troublesome ideas he's had.

a2thezebra wrote:

Golden wrote:I never much like votes that are off the viable lynch options. At this point, it seems to me that only votes for Matt or Enrique are meaningful. But I guess some people may have sold their votes.

I'll say right now I did not sell my vote, and you're part of the reason why Bass ended up not being a viable lynch option in the first place. I get that you're satisfied with a Matt lynch (and not an Enrique lynch) as well but at this point Matt just got too WIFOM-y to me. None of his actions in the past 24 hours make sense from a scum perspective as well as town, and that combined with so many lazy votes for him is why I didn't go for him.

linki @ Matt - "Consider it ignored." Whichever alignment you are, if you don't want to be lynched so quickly and easily again, don't ignore other players while constantly acting like they are ignoring you. It's nothing short of disrespectful.

linki @ flip - HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

a2thezebra wrote:

Roxy wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:

Roxy wrote:I hate doing this but I randomed my vote from people I mentioned in my previous post and got Matt.
Sorry nothing personal but rl has its demands atm.

That's...convenient. And Dom's vote was lazy. If anything's going to persuade me to vote for someone besides Matt it's these strange Matt votes.

Damn zebra things do happen outside of this forum. I have a family and work. Right now both are total chaos. I did say my thoughts prior to my vote sorry if you do not like the way I play. But if I want to play (and I do) I am going to play when I have time and will post and vote according to the suspicions I have.

Yep this is how far back I am I bet you will have something to say about this as well

I don't have anything to say about you being behind, but I do have something to say about you trying to make it look like my issue with your vote was that you hadn't caught up in the thread when that clearly had absolutely nothing to do with it. My issue was that I did not believe your Matt vote was randomized, and now my issue is that you claim to have said your thoughts prior to vote as if to imply that it was in fact NOT randomized. Please explain.

a2thezebra wrote:

Roxy wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:So I just looked at the tally... Matt F has 5 votes and is in danger zone. One of those votes is from Glorfindel. Where did Glorfindel post anything regarding his vote? Did I miss it? If not, consider me alarmed.

That makes the third vote for Matt F that I am uncomfortable with. I can't believe I'm saying this, but I'm officially not voting for him. Most of the wagon is just too easy.

This is absurd. You had been posting consistently about Matt F. You made some really great points. Yet when others vote there you get "uncomfortable" with your own suspicion? Why when it was so consistent and on point? Instead you vote Bass who you, yourself said you wanted to wait for another response from him. Your meaningless vote after the whole day of iso's and suspicions felt like a big cop out.
Then after Matt's reveal you come out with tons of excuses and guns blazing against Golden bc he did not push Bass more - huh? Why does what Golden does or votes make so much of a difference with how you vote? Why is it Golden's fault Bass did not get lynched?

I'd prefer that you take a while to catch up and not miss anything crucial to your arguments than try to catch up quickly and say uninformed things like this. I only said that I wanted to wait for Bass to respond because at that time I thought there was much more time left in the day than there actually was. And yes, the Matt votes bothered me. In fact, they still do. Your especially. Sue me. Tons of excuses and guns blazing against Golden? That's not how Golden himself reacted to it, he seemed to understand where I was coming from. I said that it was Golden's fault that Bass wasn't a viable lynch candidate because he was the one taking issue with people not voting for the viable lynch candidates of that day. And again, your praising of how consistent and on-point my suspicion of Matt was does not help the idea you seemed to be pushing earlier that your Matt vote was randomized.

a2thezebra wrote:

Roxy wrote:

Golden wrote:Hey @ Roxy

I don't remember you addressing this.

In one of your early posts you said 'Sorsha day 0' - do you remember what that was supposed to mean and if there was more to the thought that you didn't get out?

Yes it was her opening post followed by a really weird reading explanation post of her first post. The whole thing read quite odd and I am not sure why she felt it necessary to make a huge post about the planets since several people already had - one was sufficient to determine where one wanted to go we did not need 10 of them. hers was one of the last ones and I felt it was done only to look like she was contributing.

So why didn't you say this then instead of just saying the hilariously vague and cryptic "Sorsha day 0"?

Golden wrote:Hey @ Roxy

I don't remember you addressing this.

In one of your early posts you said 'Sorsha day 0' - do you remember what that was supposed to mean and if there was more to the thought that you didn't get out?

a2thezebra wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:So I just looked at the tally... Matt F has 5 votes and is in danger zone. One of those votes is from Glorfindel. Where did Glorfindel post anything regarding his vote? Did I miss it? If not, consider me alarmed.

That makes the third vote for Matt F that I am uncomfortable with. I can't believe I'm saying this, but I'm officially not voting for him. Most of the wagon is just too easy.

bcornett24 wrote:You have votes from Dom (5), Roxy (7), Glorfindel (13), Dragon D. Luffy (14), nijuukyugou (15), Golden (18), Sorsha (22) as of right now.

Of those only 2 have actually read the thread. There has been little to no activity from Dom (5), Roxy (7), Glorfindel (13), nijuukyugou (15), or Sorsha (22).

sig wrote:Well not bad for Day 1, though I don't like how quickly Matt's wagon developed and the amount of low posters who voted for him.

linki: No he isn't Golden read the EU

Elohcin wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Nicely done all you Matt voters.

However this doesn't really give us any information on who the baddies are as he was alone/no btsc.

a2thezebra wrote:

Roxy wrote:I hate doing this but I randomed my vote from people I mentioned in my previous post and got Matt.
Sorry nothing personal but rl has its demands atm.

That's...convenient. And Dom's vote was lazy. If anything's going to persuade me to vote for someone besides Matt it's these strange Matt votes.