The Syndicate

Aww, Daisy! I just saw the heading on the poll.

DFaraday wrote:At least I got to die alongside a manatee.

I love manatees.

Thanks for the memories!

It was only a matter of time. I had a feeling I would get burninated.

Yay! Got the head lazer!

Or you're bad....

Still reading from where I left off, blah blah blah, baddies trying to hide, I think SVS is a teammate of borok since she is defending his nonsense or complete ignorance. Either way.

Also, the first thing I did when I logged on was vote borok.

I'm voting borok, that is if I live through the night. I fear he may be the sk. If I die, remember these last words!

Resistance is futile.

^ Those posts go all the way back to August 8th.

Leamiteo wrote:
bea wrote:@ CBK and Leam - please don't feel left out by any of the "well they usually play like this talk" with enough games, you'll be doing it too...unfortunately. I actually quite enjoy reading your perspective (as well as BDH's) because here's the down side to "well...this always happens blah blah blah) 1) While everyone does have tells, anyone who wants to keep playing usually changes them as soon as they find out what they are. and 2) People are wrong. All the time. And they don't see it because they have that knowlege in their heads. I've been lynched as a civ more than once because of the "well, x person knows how to read Bea really well." and they are convinced I'm bad. I may have just had a bad night at work, I may have just had 2 too many glasses of before I pulled myself off the computer. Their heads could have been in a different place. They could have been baddies using my playstyle against me. Lots of things go wrong by relying too much on what a people have done in the past. New ideas and new perspectives help us who play across several forums with the same group of people over and over again in our place. Keep thinking and keep posting!
Thanks for this, it's encouraging at a point in the game where I hit a slump.

Also, I just realized that you can view ALL of a player's posts in one thread. Amazing. Wish I would have discovered this earlier!

Oi! I'm at work and fortunately doing a monotonous task that I can simultaneously have this tab open, however, I must be brief and vote now. The network here is acting spotty and I fear losing the internet. Out printers here in the printing and mailing department are not wanting to print...and the share drive is inaccessible.

My tone deaf co-worker is singing. I am irritable. The weekend couldn't come fast enough!

I am voting borok for because I am irritable, lack of posts from him, and because he said this: "Man, I am so behind. I wish I had the time to read over all of the pages of posts so I can figure out who I hate. I guess the safest option now is to hate everyone and vote at random, eh?"

Leamiteo wrote:
Mongoose wrote:I had Kate pegged as Coach Z; no one has ever been jailed to date.
I think this is highly possible.

MovingPictures07 wrote:One other thought before I do a thing or two and then go to bed...

Does anyone have reason to believe borokkuei is civvie? Additionally, what do players think of his accidental death on night 2? It seems daisy killed him due to host error. While it may be unfair to speculate, since she does not appear to be showing other failed kill attempts on purpose anyway, could this mean that borokkuei is a member of blue laser, or perhaps even the cheat? Just curious, since I am really unsure of what to make of him. He has said more than a few statements throughout the game that have been gross inaccuracies... And while I could see a Baddie or civvie being confused or faking confused, I want other input on this matter.

That is all I have to say for now.
I suspected borokkuei earlier in the game. I read his posts as forced and false confusion mixed with flippant remarks to which he replied he was a flippant person. Baddie? I think there is a chance. What to think of his accidental death? Umm, I am unclear about what you mean...am I missing something?

Leamiteo wrote:Where the heck is AP?

I'm all packed and set to move into my new apartment at 2pm. Thanks for bearing with me through my spotty presence here in the thread.

I still have my eye on Dom and borokkuei. Because the latter voted for the former, I don't know if I want to follow along and vote Dom. I don't trust borokkuei. I'm kind of feeling more secure about following SVS; her logic appears to be civvie to me.

votes Indi

Sorry for how much this is, but this has been all game. Don't try and pull that "sudden" excuse on me.

borokkuei wrote:
Leamiteo wrote:
borokkuei wrote:My only other suspicions right now are:

BDH - not based on much other than he seems to have been against me for the whole game, changing his reasons every day/night period.

A Person - just simply because he never posts... like, ever, but more so since things have been heating up a bit, so maybe he's trying to lay low and avoid scrutiny, or possibly he's like me and is just generally quiet (I know he is, but still).

And somewhat snow dog, just because he seems to be in a really good place with everyone thinking he's civ. He very might well be civ, but if he's not and everyone else is convinced of his civviness, he's in a very safe spot for a baddy. But really I've got no evidence on that and I'm most likely (like 90% sure) that I'm simply over-analyzing.
#1 BDH is clearly good. Anyone who votes for him gets my

#2 You don't post much. When you do, content is severely lacking.

Borok is bad. I think the bullz bandwagon is a diversion!
This just makes me think that you and BDH are on a team together, but I really don't have any information to back that up. Why is he "clearly good"?

I definitely post more than some of the other players. My posts lack content because I'm bad at reading people on the internet.

Bullz isn't a diversion-- I'd obviously vote for dom if he were still on the poll.

Yes, the CIVVIE team.

You obviously don't pay attention to the SB email or you would know what I am referring to with BDH.

This cements it, you are bad.

Eeep! One more!

*votes Indi*

OK, I admit I posted the above two as I was reading. Sorry for the series of posts.

I may vote for Indi since voting for borok would be a throwaway. Why did everyone vote so early?

borokkuei wrote:My only other suspicions right now are:

BDH - not based on much other than he seems to have been against me for the whole game, changing his reasons every day/night period.

A Person - just simply because he never posts... like, ever, but more so since things have been heating up a bit, so maybe he's trying to lay low and avoid scrutiny, or possibly he's like me and is just generally quiet (I know he is, but still).

And somewhat snow dog, just because he seems to be in a really good place with everyone thinking he's civ. He very might well be civ, but if he's not and everyone else is convinced of his civviness, he's in a very safe spot for a baddy. But really I've got no evidence on that and I'm most likely (like 90% sure) that I'm simply over-analyzing.

#1 BDH is clearly good. Anyone who votes for him gets my

#2 You don't post much. When you do, content is severely lacking.

Borok is bad. I think the bullz bandwagon is a diversion!

borokkuei wrote:
Dom wrote:Also, Borok, I very publically told everyone why I'd be scarce...
I'm just really dumb and unobservant k

I'm leaning toward tossing a vote in the direction of borokkuei. He has been evasive or dismissive like this throughout the thread. I am not buying it and it feel good about voting for him for this reason. Something about him just doesn't sit right with me, like he's trying too hard to sound innocent.

borokkuei wrote:
Leamiteo wrote:
Dom wrote:
Leamiteo wrote:Where the heck is AP?

I'm all packed and set to move into my new apartment at 2pm. Thanks for bearing with me through my spotty presence here in the thread.

I still have my eye on Dom and borokkuei. Because the latter voted for the former, I don't know if I want to follow along and vote Dom. I don't trust borokkuei. I'm kind of feeling more secure about following SVS; her logic appears to be civvie to me.

votes Indi
Why would you just follow borok?
You misunderstand me. I am saying I don't feel confident putting my vote where he does because I do not trust him.
If you don't trust me (or dom, if I'm interpreting that correctly) why would you vote indi?

This is the same kind of problem I have with dom.

I honestly don't fully understand what you are asking, but I never said I didn't trust Dom, I said I was keeping and eye on him. I did say I don't trust you.

Dom wrote:
Leamiteo wrote:Where the heck is AP?

I'm all packed and set to move into my new apartment at 2pm. Thanks for bearing with me through my spotty presence here in the thread.

I still have my eye on Dom and borokkuei. Because the latter voted for the former, I don't know if I want to follow along and vote Dom. I don't trust borokkuei. I'm kind of feeling more secure about following SVS; her logic appears to be civvie to me.

votes Indi
Why would you just follow borok?

You misunderstand me. I am saying I don't feel confident putting my vote where he does because I do not trust him.

Where the heck is AP?

I'm all packed and set to move into my new apartment at 2pm. Thanks for bearing with me through my spotty presence here in the thread.

I still have my eye on Dom and borokkuei. Because the latter voted for the former, I don't know if I want to follow along and vote Dom. I don't trust borokkuei. I'm kind of feeling more secure about following SVS; her logic appears to be civvie to me.

votes Indi

Yay yay yay! :yay:

Way to go team civvie!

Just a head's up that I'll be in Chicago from Friday night through Saturday late evening then packing and moving on Sunday. I have a lot of stuff do get done in the next few days, so I apologize for popping in, reading, then leaving. I'll contribute when I can.

I am sooooo sorry for missing yet again. Work has been crazy busy and I have not had the frame of mind to vote before work. I usually can vote at lunch but have not been able to get online. Apologies, apologies, apologies to all. Especially you, Daisy! Please don't mod kill me :shark:

I would have voted Timmer. He seems like he's faking it to me. Ever since he said he was leaning toward me being a civvie a little ways back I have been a bit wary. At first I thought: "Yay! A fellow civvie who trusts me!" But now I am thinking he might be one to

indiglo wrote:CBK, now there's a thought! Look at who MP was looking at. My question would only be was he speculating on some of his suspicions, or were they all based on something reliable. Does that make sense? Even info roles can speculate incorrectly. Maybe I'll look back and see what his posts sounded like, and how certain/reliable his suspicions may be.

So I'm not CBK, but I'll jump on this. MP was Silent Rip - The expert in recon on the Cheat Commando Squad, he can wire someone's home each night, allowing him to learn something about them from their conversation, though it may not give a clear answer regarding their role or alignment.... Informed speculation. It's more than I've got! I am with CBK and say we try to see what he was telling us.

Off to a soccer game, back later!

Dom wrote:
Leamiteo wrote:
I'm talking about the people we know flipped civvie after they died that you brought up in discussion throughout the thread. My point is that it seemed like you were lurking among civvies and latching onto their suspicions who you as a baddie would already know they were civvie; of course fueling the civs against themselves. You just seem to be jumping around a bit to me and that has earned you an is all. I hope that clarifies things a bit.
That's fine. I don't think it's very true given I haven't only suspected civvies and a lot of my suspicions are still alive or we don't know their roles.

That's what I'm saying. It would give you civvie cred to look like you're just as surprised as the rest of us when someone turns up either civvie or baddie.

MP's role makes soooooo much sense in hindsight. Sad to see you gone MP! Thanks for all your discussion and insights. Rally civvies! We have our work cut out for ourselves.

Captain Bunny Killer wrote:Wow. Well, not only have I been absent for a few days, but I am also almost completely back to square one after the deaths in those few days. Seriously, I don't know what the heck to say about all this.

Although, I have to say that leamiteo was way down on my list, but she was there. Even though she defended me a few days ago, I had already been thinking that her behavior seemed very avoid-the-main-thing-going-on-ish. Just a thought. No specific suspicions... especially since my suspicions are at least days old.

See if I ever defend you again! Talk about ungrateful. But I still love you!

No specific suspicions? Well that's suuuuuper vague. And may I ask, what main thing I am avoiding? Is there a main thing? This thread is harder to follow than a train of my own thought processes! I only defended you because I thought people would kill you off for a dumb reason (either John Locke's blue screen of death or your busy schedule). I'm glad to have you in the game, and have thought your input to sound civvie up until this point. Unless of course you're throwing my name out there to try to get the scent off yourself, to which I say to you: "Where do you get off sister?! Not at the Homestar station anymore!"

OK guys the flip flopping on MP is exhausting! I have been waffling this whole game and now am confused as ever.
The real question at this point that I am concerned with is: who is the other teen girl? We need to off her!

juliets wrote:Leamiteo I hope you will soon find what it is about me that makes your hair stand on end. I would like to reply to it while its fresh on your mind.

Reading back through I didn't get that feeling. I have been rather behind and playing catch up, so it is quite possible that I confused you with someone else.

I'm multitasking work and mafia..but leaning more on the mafia side. I'll be back later!

Woot woot!

Another one bites the dust. Way to go those of you with the good sniffers out there.

Dom wrote:
Bullzeye wrote:MP and Dom both seem to be hugely overreacting to people discussing them IMO. I could be up for an SVS vote if it's possible she's T-dor (I'm basically making a thing now of not saying the SK's name properly No idea why, it's just fun).
I don't really see how I've been overreacting. At all. But whatever.

Leamiteo wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:I obviously need to walk away, so that is what I am doing.

I just don't understand why I even bother sometimes; no one even pays attention.
I pay attention! It's just a lot to digest at times.

My suspicions have been Dom, juliets, borok.

My ping I get from Dom is the way he causually moves his suspicion from one civ (and people we are accepting to be/have been civs) to the next along with the crowd. I suppose anyone could be accused of this early in the game, but his accuracy with moving away from civs once the bandwagon forms is a bit too agile if you ask me.
Please give examples and tell me how you know that all my suspicions have been civvies. Thank.

I'm talking about the people we know flipped civvie after they died that you brought up in discussion throughout the thread. My point is that it seemed like you were lurking among civvies and latching onto their suspicions who you as a baddie would already know they were civvie; of course fueling the civs against themselves. You just seem to be jumping around a bit to me and that has earned you an

is all. I hope that clarifies things a bit.

Phew, I made it just in time. I am on my lunch break and voted for Dom.

I will be back to answer questions, I did not make it back to the library last night to use the internet like I thought I would be able to.

MovingPictures07 wrote:I obviously need to walk away, so that is what I am doing.

I just don't understand why I even bother sometimes; no one even pays attention.

I pay attention! It's just a lot to digest at times.

My suspicions have been Dom, juliets, borok.

My ping I get from Dom is the way he causually moves his suspicion from one civ (and people we are accepting to be/have been civs) to the next along with the crowd. I suppose anyone could be accused of this early in the game, but his accuracy with moving away from civs once the bandwagon forms is a bit too agile if you ask me.

Juliets, I am 50/50 on, but she makes me a bit nervous. At this point I am leaning more civvie, but every once and a while I fear the wolf in sheep's clothing. I'll have to go back to see what exactly made my hair stand on end.

I think borok is possibly civvie confused. I will give him the BOTD. If he's bad I'll be upset though.

I agree that this lynch is VERY important. I want to do re-reading before I jump on the SVS bandwagon, but the silent spell is eerie, I agree.

OK, once again, I am not paid to play mafia...but now I kinda am.

Alright, carry on! I'll be back with thoughts after work!

Mongoose wrote:I had Kate pegged as Coach Z; no one has ever been jailed to date.

I think this is highly possible.

MovingPictures07 wrote:One other thought before I do a thing or two and then go to bed...

Does anyone have reason to believe borokkuei is civvie? Additionally, what do players think of his accidental death on night 2? It seems daisy killed him due to host error. While it may be unfair to speculate, since she does not appear to be showing other failed kill attempts on purpose anyway, could this mean that borokkuei is a member of blue laser, or perhaps even the cheat? Just curious, since I am really unsure of what to make of him. He has said more than a few statements throughout the game that have been gross inaccuracies... And while I could see a Baddie or civvie being confused or faking confused, I want other input on this matter.

That is all I have to say for now.

I suspected borokkuei earlier in the game. I read his posts as forced and false confusion mixed with flippant remarks to which he replied he was a flippant person. Baddie? I think there is a chance. What to think of his accidental death? Umm, I am unclear about what you mean...am I missing something?

MovingPictures07 wrote:Leamiteo, I meant to ask, why do you think CBK is civvie?

Just a feeling really. I'm mostly judging her alignment my relationship with her in RL, however her posts seem genuinely thought out with a civvie mindset IMO.

CBK, you had better be good!

Welcome to the party Indiglo!

Those are lemmings in the picture for those who don't recognize them

I'm voting for angelaminranks too. I really hope you're not a civvie!

timmer wrote:Incidentally, I've got to hit the sack, but in an effort to summarize where I'm at in my "look beyond MP" plan, I'll just briefly say that Borok is difficult to read and seems confused, or maybe is just new? I think I even asked that while camping, so this isn't new from me, really.

also, in the sense of finding a quiet, frequently absent player who could be trogdor, I'll point to DFaraday and DP who I haven't seen much of anything from in my read through yet. Also, leamiteo. he (she?) has gone long stretches between posts, so maybe they could have missed some PMs, however, his (her?) posts sound fairly civvie, whereas DP and DF have been more neutral.

Also, Vompatti doesn't seem to be contributing much beyond the word ture, which I'm sad to have to ask is a deliberate misspelling of true?

Anyway, more and hopefully more helpful posts tomorrow.

Hi timmer! I'm a she.

Also, you are correct in your read on me. That makes me feel like I can trust you. I hope!

Sad to see you go Lizzy! I loove the king of toown with his silly voice and wonderful mustache.

My apologies to the whole thread. I just had a little reunion this weekend with the graduating class of 2013 hosting a bunch of friends and celebrating one of the final weeks of summer before internships, service assignments, working in the real world, continuing college/grad school, etc.

Welcome Little Tiger! You brave, brave soul. Happy reading. :P

I have spent time at work catching up on what I missed this weekend. Looks like more of the finger flinging at MP, wishy-washy to llama or not to llama, and what is/was Bullz affiliation.

My only contribution, for what it is worth, is that I believe CBK to be good.

I will be back to vote at or a little before lunch...I have to make a decision by then! Eeep!

I still haven't caught up. Lots going on. At work and have to vote; voted for myself because I'm sooooo behind and at a loss. Sorry all!

Daisy, that was a great video clip, ha! I'm sad to see you gone, Hedge. This does not help me in distinguishing good from bad! I just knew that somebody would get hurt in that tangled mess of finger pointing.

Sorry if I'm repeating something stated earlier in the thread, I'm ten pages behind (

So. Much. Reading. To. Do.) but I don't think that there is any strong evidence to be gleaned from the voters of Hedge alone that would lead us back to a baddie. I think at this point going hard after someone who voted Hedgeowl might result in another civvie being lynch. Not good. However, I do think it's a good idea to keep an eye on the voters to see if we spot any fishy behavior.

Not too much to add at this point. Deductions to come once I'm caught up.

I'm off to bed and will catch up later with rested eyes.

I'm still seven pages behind but have to vote now. I'm voting for Dom for repeated suspicion of MP and behavior that seems just a little off to me. I'm not all the way decided on MP, but I"m also not feeling 100% about anybody at this early stage.

Mongoose wrote:Basically, I'm very unsure about nearly everybody and nearly everybody seems unsure about me.

^ Yes.

Votes Dom

Devin the Omniscient wrote:EBWOP: I meant to say something to the affect of "We are already up to 25 pages and only on Night 2" ... Or, something...

Ha ha! I feel you. I got the general sense.

It turns out my friend was only coming into town for one night. That's what you get from relying on information you thought you fully understood while simultaneously texting and trying to nap

Sooo..here I am!

Spacedaisy wrote:So, tomorrow is going to be jam packed for me. There is the funeral in the morning, and work onthe afternoon until late evening. Would you all be opposed to me extending this not period into Sunday morning? If you would rather not I will leave it as is and try my best to slide a night post in here before work, but if you all are comfortable with the extension, I would prefer to do it that way...

linki: Fine by me. Also

SVS, welcome to the madness that is this game! Llama, wow. Great job with the synopsis!

I would add what I said back before the lynch:

Leamiteo wrote:I am wary of all the llama, MP, Mongoose, vompy, Hedgeowl talk. It has my head spinning and makes me feel as if there are baddies that are latching onto the suspicions, trying to blend in with civvies in by defending themselves and others, meanwhile supporting theories that would divert the attention from themselves.

I have no clue who to believe because of all the finger pointing and you-must-be-bad-oh-wait-no-I-think-you-might-be-good talk. It takes me a while to gather and hash out my thoughts...if I come up with anything else worth sharing I'll certainly chime in.

In the meantime, happy reading! Take breaks to stretch your legs and walk around.

Wow. Well this turn of events just made things more interesting, not that they were boring to begin with. I am curious to see who won't make it through the night and what we will be able glean from that. Not that I want to see anyone die, mind you, it's just that tonight's result has the potential to be very telling. Thank goodness it's not up to me!

I'm most likely going to be quiet over the weekend. Please don't post ten pages!!! A friend from out of town is visiting and we have a lot of catching up to do and hanging out with mutual friends. Luckily I got a good dose of introverted solace during the week! My weekends have been full of social interactions lately.

Additionally, I don't think that borok is necessarily bad and that others should throw votes his way, but I am not confident that he is a civvie either.

bea wrote:@ CBK and Leam - please don't feel left out by any of the "well they usually play like this talk" with enough games, you'll be doing it too...unfortunately. I actually quite enjoy reading your perspective (as well as BDH's) because here's the down side to "well...this always happens blah blah blah) 1) While everyone does have tells, anyone who wants to keep playing usually changes them as soon as they find out what they are. and 2) People are wrong. All the time. And they don't see it because they have that knowlege in their heads. I've been lynched as a civ more than once because of the "well, x person knows how to read Bea really well." and they are convinced I'm bad. I may have just had a bad night at work, I may have just had 2 too many glasses of before I pulled myself off the computer. Their heads could have been in a different place. They could have been baddies using my playstyle against me. Lots of things go wrong by relying too much on what a people have done in the past. New ideas and new perspectives help us who play across several forums with the same group of people over and over again in our place. Keep thinking and keep posting!

Thanks for this, it's encouraging at a point in the game where I hit a slump.

Also, I just realized that you can view ALL of a player's posts in one thread. Amazing. Wish I would have discovered this earlier!

Oi! I'm at work and fortunately doing a monotonous task that I can simultaneously have this tab open, however, I must be brief and vote now. The network here is acting spotty and I fear losing the internet. Out printers here in the printing and mailing department are not wanting to print...and the share drive is inaccessible.

My tone deaf co-worker is singing. I am irritable. The weekend couldn't come fast enough!

I am voting borok for because I am irritable, lack of posts from him, and because he said this: "Man, I am so behind. I wish I had the time to read over all of the pages of posts so I can figure out who I hate. I guess the safest option now is to hate everyone and vote at random, eh?"

borokkuei wrote:Man, I am so behind. I wish I had the time to read over all of the pages of posts so I can figure out who I hate. I guess the safest option now is to hate everyone and vote at random, eh?

This seems really flippant to me and it may earn you my vote. There are a few people who after some time will eventually post and I think to myself, "Wait, where did they come from?" I don't know who I'm voting for at this point, but be warned!

I am wary of all the llama, MP, Mongoose, vompy, Hedgeowl talk. It has my head spinning and makes me feel as if there are baddies that are latching onto the suspicions, trying to blend in with civvies in by defending themselves and others, meanwhile supporting theories that would divert the attention from themselves.

That being said, I have some reading to do in order to decide where my vote should go. I have been hesitant to post my thoughts on players others than those listed above because honestly, I'm really bad at keeping things strait/navigating the forum. I'm getting better as I familiarize myself, and if I am able to build an founded argument against anyone I will. I'm with CBK on the not trusting all the veteran jargon about who is playing what kind of game. In a way I feel handicapped as it has tended to silence me when I want to contradict something but feel like I don't have the same kind of insight.

I'm off to read through the thread in effort to get my bearings. Tonight is bowling night! Depending on what time I get home I may not post again tonight since I don't have internet at my house.

Matt F wrote:From here on out, for my benefit, I would appreciate it if everyone would put "Male" or "Female" before they post.

Dude, keep the first page open in another tab.

Or here, I'll just put it out there for your review.

I totally feel your pain though, I have to refer back to this list. It's hard with not knowing people from having played to keep all names, nicknames, acronyms, acronyms of nicknames and random use of real names all strait.

A Person (m)
agleaminranks (m)
BigDamnHero (m)
birdwithteeth11 (m)
Bullzeye (m) - killed Night 1 by Trogdor
borokkuei (m)
Devin the Omniscient (m)
DFaraday (m)
DisgruntledPorcupine (m)
Dom (m)
Matt F (m)
MovingPictures07 (m)
Reywas (m)
Snow Dog (m)
Thellama73 (m)
Timmer (m)
Vompatti (m)

Bea (f)
Captain Bunny Killer (f)
Elohcin (f) - Lynched Day 1, What's Her Face
Hedgeowl (f)
Juliets (f)
Kate (f) - Killed Night 1 by Blue Laser
Leamiteo (f)
Lizzy (f)
Matahari (f)
Mongoose (f)

BigDamnHero wrote:I think that's a very dangerous question to ask and shouldn't be pursued for fear of outing a civillian role thereby putting them in even more peril.

Yes. Good point.

BigDamnHero wrote:Strong sad's poem really doesn't make much sense UNLESS that last line had the typo. I mean if he wanted to talk about Bullzeye why not just say the name instead of "target" (they both have the same syllable count and every line, save for the last, each has 3 syllables and the last line has 6) and what the hell would "I think in the target" mean anyway? Does he find some sort of mental nirvanna while shopping at the local retailer?

And I don't mean to be rude or insulting in ANY way shape or form, but you didn't even proofread your own post above when you wrote "Don't you think Strongsad, who has the opportunity to submitted something for the thread would proof read?". I'm simply pointing out that nobody here is exempt from making typing errors. Plus you also have to realize that there is absolutely no punctuation in the poem at all...periods, commas, apostrophe's or otherwise. So I would read it as follows:

All this talk.
Who is who?
What is what?
Where are bad (guys)?
I think I'M the target.

By following this model, I believe it sends a precise, clear message from the author.
All this talk
(There was a lot of discussions taking place during day1)
Who is who
(I have suspects as to who is what role)
What is what
(I don't know any other specifics about this game)
Where are bad
(Doesn't begin to know who could be an enemy)
I think in the target
(He fears he's in danger from the bad guys)

That's just my own personal analysis. In the end, it doesn't entirely matter much because there aren't a whole lot of details in this quasi-haiku, and even if I'm wrong about thepoem, Bullzeye is dead anyway so suspicions about his alliegences are pretty much moot at this point.

Thanks for the clarification. I was just curious both you and BWT felt so strongly that it was a indeed a typo. This makes sense to me.

Also, yeah, no offense taken. I've been really bad at proofreading. I usually only have a few minutes to hash out a post with my internet situation. I keep a separate tab open, adding and editing threads of unrelated topics...and I fail to adequately proofread.

This particular instance was a lazy oversight, I have secure internet at the moment and I'm not at work.

So assuming this theory holds water, any ideas about who would be telling us they think they are being targeted?

Haha! Have you seen the cat diaries?
They are so funny! The first 20 seconds address the keyboard

Mongoose wrote:I think it was probably triggered by the number of deaths (3) and/or that each type of villain (the teen girl killer, the blue laser kill and Trogdor) was able to secure a kill. But I learned my lesson about speculating in this game!

This is plausible. You're allowed to speculate, don't stop. Because if you become quiet you'll become a target for being quiet.

Matt F wrote:
BigDamnHero wrote:@ vompatti- Stringsad had a poem right after strongbad's email in the post daisy made
Ah. The way I read it in the description, it sounded like they would actually do it in the thread. Derp.

I thought the same thing initially. Guess not! That would be waaay to easy to identify him. Hmm, maybe Strongsad is the one who speaks in prose.

I voted for Bullz and therefore immediately associated "target" with him, but perhaps that's just because in my own mind I was already thinking "baddie". I don't know though and I guess we'll find out in time.

I find it interesting that BWT and BDH both posited that "in" was in fact a typo in Strongsad's poem.

Don't you think Strongsad, who has the opportunity to submitted something for the thread would proof read? And if it were a typo, wouldn't it make sense that there would have been an apostrophe? However, as was mentioned before, we don't know that Strongsad has any information, so perhaps it is just a person who suspected Bullz and vocalized it in the thread?

I guess I am confused about why you feel that it was a typo? Do either of you, BWT or BDH, care to give any more insight on that?

I hope you weren't civvies Bullz and Kate! What does it mean that the SK chose the Warrior Hut? There were only three people in it...the SK works alone right? So Trogdor wouldn't know the alignment of anyone else. What is the goal of the SK? Kill everyone off? I'm kind of stumbling along as I go, thanks for bearing with me, all.

OK, that's all for now.

Is it possible that those who received info from the day 0 poll received info about the huts? I have no clue what that info would be, and as I said before, I myself received no info.

OK, so now I'm thinking aloud here; I know the huts are random, but perhaps the different huts have different special things about them, perhaps the names have certain meanings? Warrior versus Medicine Man = fight off TROGDOR! versus hang out with the guy that could cure you? Ha! Can you be cured or rather restored from ashes? Ha ha! OK, so this might be totally not right at all but it was a little light bulb that went off in my head that may just be a silly theory to nothing.

I will be very surprised if the SK doesn't choose the Medicine Man hut. However, it may be logical to choose another hut because if you deduced that the SK would choose the one with the most people hiding in it, then it may be wise to choose another hut. Perhaps..unless the SK chooses one with few people to target civvies, since I assume the baddies will want to cluster with the majority/civvies. I can really see it either way.

At first I found it really curious that people would branch off to other huts, but now I think I may be regretting my decision to go along with the safety in numbers...I have terrible luck and would hate to be burninated on the first night.

So I was responding to people's previous questions of me using the awful/slow/spotty stolen neighbor's internet that I sometimes can get one bar using their network "guest" and it crapped out on me before the post went through.

And now my computer is going to die and I'm late for a grill out.

But! The good news is I'm caught up on the posts! And that a baddie was lynched on day 1!

I'm agreeing with those who say safety in numbers and going with the Medicine Man's Hut.

OK guys, I promise sometime in the very near future I will be present on here and post something more substantial. For now, off to my cookout!

OK, so I'm at work and had to quickly vote because I don't get paid to play mafia (aw man!). I'm going with my one of my first suspicions/pings, though perhaps unwarranted in the midst of all the day 0 theorizing. As Mongoose said a lot of people who I though pinged me unpinged themselves. I really have no clue at this point, but anyone declaring absolute certainty at this early stage would be thought crazy, right? Voting for Bullz. OK, I have to get back to work now and will catch up later!

Alex, I am so sorry for your loss. My thoughts and prayers are with you and your family. I just recently went through this same thing and know how much it sucks.

Hedgeowl wrote:MP is often in the unfortunate situation of getting lynched early because he posts actively. Creates a lot for people to latch onto easily. I am learning to recognize these players and give them the botd for a day. There are at least 4 players in this game who have had this happen to them too often as well. Nothing about his turnaround pings me. It was a lot to read, but logically it made sense at the time.

At this point I don't think we need others to share because we did learn something about the poll. Individuals got info about what they needed to win and the option that won got specific info as a prize. That's it. We can't really know more than that.

After all this my list of players not to vote for is getting pretty long.

Ok, thanks for this! It's helpful for a first time player.

Spacedaisy wrote:Ok guys, you should know me better than to think I would do something that would out civs. Both civs and baddies received info in this poll. Additionally, not everyone was told an option that needed to win, some of them were told if a certain option wins you will be hindered by that result. So, I as a host have not outed anyone. Day 0 polls are intended to generate discussion and it has done exactly that.

I would just like to say, I was right in my assumption that both sides got info. This makes me suspicious of those who overly said only the six civvies got it....meaning they were baddies? But I guess it just means they weren't those six specific roles...so maybe they were just hoping to get help from civvie compatriots.

@MP - as I said my suspicions went back and forth like a ping-pong ball match. Bullz was the one that stuck out in my mind but honestly can't remember why now. I haven't had time to re-read. I will hopefully get to catch up a little before work...or at work and then vote.

I will try to jog my memory, but I seriously should have written stuff down because I can't remember. All the names are swirling together. Plus I'm tired and may have been drinking a little bit with some friends tonight....what can I say, I'm a light weight.

Don't kill Captain Bunny Killer! She is a good friend (in real life!) of mine, and I would LOVE to play this game with her. Also, she has been busy with the GRE. Give her a break. If she's a baddie, I want to kill her myself, bahahaha!

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